Richard Dawkins - Evolution vs. Religion?

[@magicmjk09]

The thing that bothered me a bit, is that in this particular part of the conversation, Robert is trying to be a bit more sympathetic towards religion than he always seemed to be, all while the other party in this conversation is the one and only Richard Dawkins, who has been the most straight forward, frank and even harshly direct critic of the religion. Some think that Dawkins is the toughest advocate of scientific thinking so much so that makes him unbearable for religious people, and therefore diminishes the efficacy of his arguments on them. In these circumstances, Robert's attitude towards religion causes the dialogue to limp a bit as Richard is also trying to be softer than usual.

[@hansweichselbaum2534]

I am a fan of the Closer To Truth channel, but that's the worst interview I've heard so far on this channel. Both participants were struggling to convey their thoughts.

[@jamesconner8275]

RD seemed slow in thi interview. He seems like he's tired of discussing the subject.

[@Kritiker313]

Agree. He didn't say much

[@DrJimmy15]

He’s in his 80s

[@SilverSurfer2160]

Yes. And Robert didn't give him much to work with.

[@ВолодимирДиндин-ы1ч]

He gets paid for discussing that subject)), so he has nothing to suffer. And he is tired, because he is already old. Don't make it up.

[@JayS.-mm3qr]

Lol. Listen to the first 50 seconds and you tell me if you can actually hear a discernable question.... or it mostly a guy talking? Lol. That is really how anyone would have responded.

[@Earthad23]

The theory of evolution attempts to explain the diversity of living organisms, it has nothing to say about the origins of life itself. The hard problem we have is how does a “big bang” become conscious of itself? Richard’s model of the world is a rational intellect interpreting a set of objective facts outside of any overlap between the two, this is wrong.

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[@ArtieTurner]

It seems to me that the occurrence of conscious, living beings emerging from inanimate matter would qualify as supernatural. It's easy to deride the excesses of religious dogma, somewhat more difficult to posit a straightforward, scientific explanation of the genesis of genetic reproduction guided by "natural" selection.

[@Paine137]

It’s natural.

[@Roy-ho6ii]

What a relief to, at last, get someone who brings a semblance of reality an balance to the discussion. Thank you Richard.

[@Kritiker313]

Dr. Kuhn, I would love for you to interview a few people who've had near death experiences.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

Or one single post death experience.

[@TheLochs]

@@vladtheemailer3223 lol

[@colinlavery625]

The brain chemistry does all sorts of strange stuff when close to death so any sort of claim is untrustworthy.

[@windowman929]

Ironically, Dawkins has the patience of a saint...

[@TimBitts649]

Must be his Minister dads influence

[@MarkPatmos]

Evolution is a process which includes purpose, that requires organisms to somehow have agency, and is occurring in a consistent manner without design.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

X-< This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it. Pigments have different rules than light. It took them thousands of years to get all the pigments they have now.

[@pauljam8197]

What a STUPID comment.

[@darylwilliams7883]

There fundamental incompatibility of science and religion, any science, not just evolution, is that science is based on the principle that the only way to learn anything true about the universe its to examine the UNIVERSE itself, using your own senses, or devices which augment your own senses. Religion on the other hand is based on the principle that belief in a proposition is enough in itself, regardless of what examining the universe tells you. In fact, some might go so far as to say you can't have a religion unless you disregard the universe entirely and believe what you believe regardless of anything you see with your eyes or hear with your ears, or whatever. People who claim to accept both science and religion actually don't. What they do is pick bits of each they can hold in their heads and disregard the rest.

[@TimBitts649]

Really? If evolution is true, then religion must by definition have an evolutionary purpose. For instance, Genesis 3:16 is obviously an evolutionary contract among humans. Intuited by religious people, long before religious people invented science.

[@netscrooge]

There is no conflict between good science and good theology. Anyone educated should know that, but many don't.

[@Mystery_G]

How is it that you STILL have yet to interview John Vervaeke?

[@supernaturalabilities]

It becomes much easier to challenge Islam and Christianity by accepting the concept of an uncaused cause while rejecting the claim that it possesses the attributes of Allah, Jesus, or Yahweh.

[@mikegan73]

What museum are they in I wonder. The Natural history museum London?

[@MohitSoodBookeeper]

Religion answers on death as practise of nature , science agrees to nature what a paradox !

[@vgrof2315]

As usual, this interviewer produces nothing in his endless haranguing on the big questions. His interviews are a waste of time.

[@Alwaysdoubt100]

I think Dawkins should say that religion is a scientific hypotheses, not a theory!

[@njeyasreedharan]

The Creator is a Creature?

[@rwitt985]

by definition no, lol

[@johnhewlett2234]

Where are they sitting?

[@Roshan-q6n]

When the head is full, the heart is empty, and life fades away. When the head is empty, the heart is full, and the joy of life returns.

[@kneesneedoil]

Trust the science, never question the experts and remember your booster. Amen .

[@chillkroete0787]

Why is the interviewer so desperate to make a point for religion?

[@mehmood91900]

Atheists be like I don't know of the gaps Millions of years of the gaps If we give enough time of the gaps

[@MohitSoodBookeeper]

Life is possible in universe only because of nature and not science

[@ronhudson3730]

There is no vs. Evolution is widely accepted as the way in which life-forms come into being and evolve or extinguish over time. No credible person would claim otherwise. So religious theory has to fit with evolution theory lot the other way around. The existence and evolution of the universe in general is understood with a high degree of confidence. Religious theory has to fit with that, as well. I think a case can be made that it does. What is not in dispute is that Dawkins is a tedious man who has made a good living having these tedious discussions.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

*"There is no vs. Evolution is widely accepted as the way in which life-forms come into being and evolve or extinguish over time. No credible person would claim otherwise. So religious theory has to fit with evolution theory lot the other way around."* ... God is considered "all-knowing" whereas biological evolution is deemed "non-knowing." That's "All" or "None," respectively. But what if you took just a tiny little bit of God's "all knowing" and moved it over to biological evolution? .... Evolution is not completely void of orchestration (intelligence).

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

observing the state of our societies today I think 'God' has a sense of humour...he plays games with the devil. Poetry is more profound than science can ever be.

[@qigong1001]

Maybe, but that would mean he is a cruel god playing games with our lives. I’m not ruling god out and if there is one, you might be right that he plays games, and isn’t a pleasant god.

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

Sir Richard... I will never forget this interview. Lots of love to you sir...

[@glencorreya7657]

Evolution can perhaps be thought of as one small part of a creative mechanism or process in eternal progress.... Religion is a 100% human "creation"?

[@ANascente]

What place is this? I'm almost crying because it's so beautiful ❤🥰

[@stephenzhao5809]

0:50 RD: um not quite sure what you're asking there (um just asking uh you to reflect on uh evolution and and religion uh) yeah well I think supernatural religion is a very interesting scientific theory which is YET TO BE PROVED OR DISPROVED (wrong) but it's M-THEORY profoundly interesting in the sense or important in the sense that IF EXTRA DIMENSIONS LIKE SPATIAL 4- OR 5- DIMENSIONS EXIST AS WE LOGICALLY CONFIRM 1- OR 2- DIMENSIONW THERE WHICH IS ACTUALLY INVISIBLE TO US if it if it were right it IS would be a very different kind of world we live in so I'm not one of those who says well it's nothing to do with science you can believe if you if you like and lead me out of it I mean it is very important scientific theory 1:31 if

[@fishforeverlife]

If the source of creation or what we call God created all things, birds, mammals, insects, thiests, devils and angels? Did it not also create the athiest? 😅 Can we choose to believe, speculate all we want as long as we are not harming other beings. Is that not a miracle? 😊

[@peterprentice9179]

Religion is a product of evolution...

[@supernaturalabilities]

Except for a few verses, there is hardly any truth in the Quran, Hadith, or the Bible. The God of the Bible or the Quran does not claim to have created the universe. Neither the Bible nor the Quran discusses the creation of the universe in modern terms. Genesis 1:2 suggests that water existed in some form before the creation of Earth and Heaven. Therefore, the Bible does not describe the creation of the universe from nothing. Additionally, 'Earth and Heaven' should not be interpreted as the universe in the way science understands it today. These authors (flat-earthers) did not have an understanding of the universe as we do in modern times. In Genesis 2:21-22, Genesis 2:7, and the Quran (38:71-72), God is depicted as a man on Earth creating Adam from dust/clay and forming the first woman from a man's rib. This suggests that the authors did not fully comprehend the intricacies of the creation process, let alone the evolution of species as explained by the scientific concept of 'evolution.' According to Allah, man was created from clay (Quran 15:26), a blood clot (Quran 96:2), and water (Quran 21:30), while woman was created from a rib (as narrated in Bukhari and Muslim). This narrative, neither fitting into creation nor evolution, bears closer resemblance to practices associated with witchcraft. Therefore, we can dismiss all of that as nonsense. However, there remains a deep mystery that scientists have yet to figure out. The issue is that science cannot explain the origin of consciousness. The egg and sperm that formed the zygote, which eventually became you, are, by scientific understanding, merely chemicals devoid of consciousness. So, where did your consciousness come from? Science asserts that when the body dies, consciousness ceases to exist. This implies that consciousness emerges from nothing and then vanishes into nothing, which defies logic. This is where true spirituality becomes relevant. Universal spirituality transcends the limitations of science. By exploring supernatural abilities, such as levitation, we can begin to uncover the true nature of consciousness. By consciousness here, I am not referring solely to human consciousness or brain-bound consciousness. There is more to consciousness than that. We must think of the quantum field as a field of consciousness. Science doesn't understand the connection between matter and the non-physical realm of something. This is the real issue. That something must have always existed and be infinite to make sense of the physical realm. To be recognized as a true scientist, one must steadfastly pursue the truth, regardless of where it leads or its implications. This pursuit often leads into the realm of the supernatural or the consciousness that lies behind the physical realm. Evidence of such phenomena can be found in supernatural abilities, exemplified by Biba Struja's electrokinesis skills, validated by his Guinness World Record, which demands rigorous scientific verification. To debunk Biba Struja as an illusionist and disprove the existence of psychic powers, one would need to replicate his feats using mere tricks and achieve a Guinness World Record-something unattainable. This confirms Biba Struja's genuine ability and validates the reality of electrokinesis among numerous other magical abilities. You can only grasp what that something is-the non-physical realm underlying the physical-through the exploration of supernatural abilities.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

Rob having muchacho time 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Luciferslavemake99]

Richard Dawkins used to be the high priest of atheism, but now he's more like the altar boy of controversy-everyone's seen him fumble the incense.

[@TurinTuramber]

Not really. I haven't heard him get anything wrong.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

*"Richard Dawkins used to be the high priest of atheism, but now he's more like the altar boy of controversy-everyone's seen him fumble the incense."* ... I see him as remaining consistent in his ideology. The only controversial statements he has made are in regard to "gender identity" which is a social construct. I believe his position on that issue is also consistent with his understanding of biology.

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

he's getting old and readying himself with meeting his maker....

[@TurinTuramber]

maker = oblivion. ​@@stevefrompolaca2403

[@christopheespic]

​.... And I guess you have a pretty good idea of who is his "maker" 🙄.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

(　・３・) We need to popularize the idea of getting God married. Getting God married is a good use of someone's time. You are supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God is needed. We fixed the video and audio for the best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D that not a gimmick. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.

[@wavydaveyparker]

*Closer to the truth:* _"Life is not a predictable ladder of progression. It's a copiously branching bush, continually being pruned by the grim reaper of extinction."_ ~ Stephen Jay Gould.

[@mehmood91900]

If atheists demonstrates to the humans something from absolutely nothing and life from non life it would be very good for their cause. If they can't solve or demonstrate the most fundamental questions of why we are here in the first place then talking on God question with secondary or thirdly questions are useless.

[@Mars-l6f]

St. Finian's College Secondary School Mullingar McDonalds KFC Atheism Google Pixel 9 Pro XL iPhone 16 Pro Max

[@notmyname4261]

Poor Richard takes so much crap for stating the bleeding obvious.

[@S3RAVA3LM]

What's that?

[@chrisgriffiths2533]

I Don't Understand Why Your Comment has Not been Removed by the Establishment ???. Oh Damn, Sorry, Silly Question. The Establishment has Absolute Power.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

Rich who ? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mtshasta4195]

So what? He dishes out a lot of crap.

[@MrModikoe]

​@@chrisgriffiths2533what are you saying?

[@Haasgax]

It's more likely a speech. So many claim without proof.

[@ezrawilson6986]

I object to posting interviews with Richard Dawkins for the same reason I would object to posting an interview with Ken Ham.

[@Paine137]

Overruled.

[@1PrinceWilliam]

And not his silence on the toxicity of Zionism?? It’s amazing to me how the world’s foremost atheist is painfully and embarrassing quiet about this issue when he’s so quick to attack other iterations of organized religions and their harmful ideologies…

[@mtshasta4195]

He's an elitist scientist that sounds very articulate but only offers opinions with no basis in fact or proof.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

(*T^T) Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.

[@Life_42]

❤

[@eddieking2976]

Hard seeing two great minds getting older. 😢

[@robertmcclintock8701]

((T_T)) The human body is burly, gnarly and surly like a fractal.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

( ｡ﾟДﾟ｡) The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

( ω-、) it's intelligently designed that if you master evolution it just makes you a baby doctor.

[@chyfields]

When you can't name a single thing that wasn't created, you have to conclude that Creation is the norm. Creation implies Creator(s).

[@Paine137]

What created your imaginary creator.

[@chyfields]

@Paine137 Time is cyclical, which suggests that we might be in a time loop. Maybe, we create the Creator, who loops back and Creates us. For example, we create AI. It evolves sufficiently to navigate time.

[@solipsist3025]

All life on this planet was not created, it is only a consequence of evolution and natural selection.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

*Major fan of Richard Dawkins!* ... Dawkins, Tyson, Dennett, Witten and Sabine are all characters in my latest cartoon! ... That being said, I don't believe that "Evolution" is void of intelligence. And religion has evolved just like science, politics, society, and everything else has evolved. ... "Intelligence" was present throughout each these evolutionary processes, so why think it's not present in biological evolution?

[@Paine137]

Evidence?

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@Paine137 *"Evidence?"* ... I have the exact same amount of evidence in support of intelligence being integral to evolution as the evolutionists have that it's not. The main difference is that *orchestration requires intelligence,* and we have *zero evidence* for anything that can orchestrate chaos without an intelligence being involved. You can certainly argue that "Evolution" doesn't require any intelligence whatsoever to orchestrate life, ... but that would result in "special pleading" on behalf of biological evolution.

[@tomjackson7755]

@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC The laws of physics "orchestrate chaos without an intelligence being involved'" all day every day.

[@MarkPatmos]

Evolution is definitely true but can Richard Dawkins prove that what he perceives through his senses is objectively real? Could our reality be created by the mind of God and evolution is part of a reality where there is good and evil and God is allowing it to appear that there are no consequences for your actions? Of course not. But that also is a faith based argument.😂

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

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[@Nekoyarou7766]

How religion mumbo jumbo has revolution

[@tomazflegar]

There are those who think biology comes before quantum field

[@keithwalmsley1830]

Richard Dawkins is good but I still think Christopher Hitchens was far more articulate and persuasive in demolishing religious arguments.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

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[@Earthad23]

You cannot derive an aught from an is. What we are attempting to explain is this moment right now eternally. Richard is stuck in the third person abstractions of the world, he’s habituated the miraculous by dragging the divine down to the mundane. We simply get used to things and forget how unbelievable everything is.

[@Paine137]

And who gets to decide what is and is not an ought. Stupid mammals.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

(　´⊇｀) Consciousness is the particle and wave double slit experiment. The cones and rods of your eyes preserve the particle and wave duality so your vision don't look like a flat screen television. It's supposed to be a violation of physics but it is the only exception in the whole universe.

[@NicholasWilliams-uk9xu]

Exactly, life evolves by natural selection, a very costly algorithm, something that we build societies to stop it occurring. Religion is also in part a product of natural selection, another very costly algorithm. (while states are parasites that run extortion on people). Also, the "fine tuning" of constants in meter space is fractionally based, and relative based momentum equilibrium formation that mass observers are bound to, because mass observers are made of Planck units, therefore when the Planck flux speed (c) decreases in GR backdrop space, the meter contracts with it, therefore as well as the Planck length, as well as the mass observer who is made of those units. Where faster Planck flux on one side of you pushes you down a Planck length differential gradient, till least action (momentum intersect balance acting on you) occurs. It's math, and math doesn't lie, bibles do however in order to replicate across minds, no gods needed to make sense of the universe. It's easy, it's called (for every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction = the bisector reflection of inverse directional momentum on local intersect).