COYOTE VS JUNKYARD LS-WHICH MAKES MORE HP? 5.0L YOTE VS 5.3L LS, STOCK, HCI MODIFIED AND HIGH RPM!

FORD VS CHEVY. IS THE 5.0L COYOTE BETTER THAN THE LS? WHICH ONE MAKES MORE POWER IN STOCK TRIM? WHICH ONE RESPONDS TO MODIFICATIONS BETTER? DOES A USED COYOTE COST MORE THAN A USED LS? HOW MUCH POWER ARE HEADS, CAM AND INTAKE WORTH ON A COYOTE. DOES A DOHC MOTOR MAKE GOOD TORQUE? HOW CAN A 5.0L 4V COYOTE MAKE MORE TORQUE THAN A 5.3L LS? HOW HIGH CAN YOU REV A COYOTE? HOW HIGH CAN YOU REV A JUNKYARD LS? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED A STOCK 5.0L COYOTE TO A STOCK 5.3L LS, THE EQUIPPED EACH WITH PORTED HEADS, WILDER CAMS AND AFTER MARKET INTAKES. WHO WORE IT BEST?

[@jackcurrence263]

As a Chevy guy, I just looked at the title to the video and said, "Well, the Coyote. Of course."

[@fredflintstone505]

I saw it as yet another pro-Chevy video. They alway put a limit on how much to spend and we all know the Chevy will always come out on top.

[@Cwrigh25]

Same. Like we all know the coyote is the superior engine. LS is just cheap af

[@jackcurrence263]

@@fredflintstone505 Eh, it's at least somewhat of a fair point, since most of us are on a budget. If we want to play the "unlimited budget" game, I'm not going to start with an LS *or* a Coyote.

[@fredflintstone505]

@@jackcurrence263 Sure. But that's you. The point is if you set up a scenario where you have, say a $10,000 budget, and you pit an LS to a Coyote, you're letting the LS start at the 75-yard line in a 100-yard dash. Then acting surprised when the LS wins Then strutting around like it's superior when in fact they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

[@cccboarding]

@@jackcurrence263hemi has entered chat😅

[@robertkington2084]

Never seen so many feelings hurt by a simple comparison.

[@ChefofWar33]

Not really. Everyone knew what would happen. The pushrod design is an 80 year old technology. But that is also why they are so damn reliable and cheap. GM has perfected them.

[@JSparrowist]

I'm still sticking to LS. Much cheaper to modify, less moving parts to go wrong, it's still a win. Also, LS fits in engine bays. Coyote is MASSIVE in comparison.

[@MS-mr4zm]

All ford engines are architecturally wayyyy bigger than they need/should be

[@Jimmyxsx]

Not its not😂 Supercharger/turbo, fuel system and opg= 1000hp on the Coyote try that with the Ls and see how much its gonna cost you

[@ricardocorbie6803]

I’m always going for the Coyote!! Boost + RPM = Winning 🏆

[@MS-mr4zm]

@@Jimmyxsx yeah well that’s an old beat ass LSX that doesn’t have DI etc. put it against an LS3 different story, and the LS3 is old too & doesn’t have DI, the newest DI LTX GM V8s will crush a coyote mod for mod, nobody needs that many cams😜

[@Jimmyxsx]

@@MS-mr4zm the LTX😂 😆 Lund racing smoked all those big 406, 427 billet block engine cars last week at JPC imports vs domestics with a sleeved Coyote and you are telling me the POS LTX can crush the Coyote😆😆 u smoking some good meth🤣

[@LightHills]

Putting the ford vs chevy thing aside. I think we all agree that it comes down to 2 things. Price and working on the engine yourself. I agree that the 5.0 is efficient and makes crazy power, no argument there. But to be honest the money aspect kills it for me. I gotta buy 4 cams, the heads are expensive as fk, I gotta buy twice as many valves and springs, timing chain kit more expensive, aftermarket parts in general are more $$$$ than the LS. In the other regard, I really love how simple the LS is to take apart/repair/keep alive over the 5.0. Humor me for a sec....Your at the track and you let's say " torch a head and have to repair to keep going rounds. Be honest an ask yourself which engine you'd rather remove the head off of in the given time frame ??? I really don't wanna add extra stuff in my way to do repair in the middle of an event ( 2 over head cams/Cam gears/ timing cover/Long ass chains etc etc ) to just remove a damn head man. But let me be clear as much as I love the LS platform the 5.0 yotes make insane power considering the displacement and efficiency of the platform.

[@kdmag8858]

I understand what you're saying but you also have to consider how worth it it is. A flathead engine would look at your LS and say how much more complex the LS is, I'll stick with my flathead so I can quickly swap heads and cut complexity. But obviously OHV is worth the upgrade. It's a similar step towards OHC. Even as Rich said, the 5.0 really just needs a blower and fuel management to make crazy power, buying aftermarket cams and heads or opening it up at all isn't really needed. That said, I'm an old 302 guy, but I can admire the ingenuity put towards the coyote.

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@LightHills what are you talking about, l don't where you need heads, not sure anyone even makes them, their just ported the flow great , there's a expense you don't need, come on man, take another look firè and

[@3800S1]

The first thing I noticed when I first saw a Coyote in the flesh is how absolutely massive they are physically. I had the same reaction when I saw a DOHC RB20, it was a not far from the size of as a L6 Mitshubishi diesel truck engine. As someone who's only really had OHV engines, you forget how big 4 valve engines actually are.

[@zethloveless7238]

People give me hell when I even bring that up. I love both engines but god damn and Ls can fit in almost anything 😅.

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

Great point... the coyote is the greatest engine that won't fit in anything... thats why they're dropping ls' in everything

[@zethloveless7238]

@@user-qr7ee2cp4y part of being a cam in block motor the better packaging. Those yote are physically very massive but damn they do good under boost 😏

[@3800S1]

@@zethloveless7238 They are quite rare as a swap in in Aus, 2 reasons, the Mustang is a new thing for Aus, only after Ford went belly up in only 2018 I think? And the Barra are like 800 bucks from a wrecker and fit a lot of cars as a swap a lot easier. The LS is everywhere but other swaps are starting to gain popularity due to a junk LS motor costing 3k+ now, and a good running one typically 5-7K.

[@zethloveless7238]

@@3800S1 Barra swap the world 😉

[@TheRealCCSmith]

For the $ ... I don't know if anything can touch an LS dollar per horse.... maybe a K series. Simple, cheap, big power is hard to beat ! ... great video 👍

[@keithwilson8624]

Agree with all , unless you already own a vehicle with a coyote 5.0 then the LS swap is king of abuse and price to buy and to modify, race etc

[@Boltdriver70]

Have a 13 gt track pack premium. I'm a Coyote guy but have tremendous respect for LS engines and the potential they have.

[@ricky3277]

Boosted coyotes are just on another level.

[@bfromthed]

As a long time GM/chevy guy I know those coyotes are special. Chevy dabbled with DOHC with the LT5 and did well way back when but they never tried to really make it a high rpm killer. Ford has been doing it for years and now they have perfected it.

[@zztop7306]

That was a lotus designed engine. GM used them to develop the lt5 after they took major share of the company. GM ohc passenger engines were and are somewhat shit, they couldn't make a high performance ohc engine until recently. If GM w/o lotus designed and produced the lt5 in the same fashion it would have been a mess.

[@wilsoncombat1341]

@@zztop7306 True, the LT5 could have been even better if GM was not hung up on the stupid 5.7 thing. GM dumped the zr1 back then because they bought the engines from Mercury Marine. GM at the time could have never built that engine

[@Frank289100]

THE LT5 WAS DESIGNED BY LOTUS. FORD OWNED LOTUS UNDER A SUBSIDIARY. IN THE LATE 1980'S, FORD SOLD 70% OF LOTUS TO GM. FORD KEPT 30% OF LOTUS BEING THE ENGINE DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH DIVISION. SINCE GM HELD 70% INTEREST IN LOTUS. IT ALSO GAVE THEM ACCESS TO THE ENGINE DEVELOPMENT DIVISION. FORD DEVELOPED THE LT5 ENGINE FOR THE ZR1 AND MERCURY MARINER BUILT IT. YOUR MAGNETIC SUSPENSION USED IN THE CAMARO TODAY IS OLD TECHNOLOGY THAT CAME FROM LOTUS WHEN GM BOUGHT 70% OF LOTUS. THAT'S' IS ALSO A FORD DEVELOPMENT. BACK IN THE LATE EIGHTIES WHEN DALE EARNHARDT WAS RACING HIS MR GOODWRENCH CAR. THE ENGINE UNDER THE HOOD WAS CALLED THE CHAPMAN LOTUS V-8. IT WAS A 4.6 L SINGLE OVERHEAD CAM ENGINE. IT CAME FROM ENGLAND IN A CRATE AND WAS PUT DIRECTLY INTO DALE EARNHARDT'S MR GOODWRENCH CAR. THIS MOTOR GAVE HIM THE WINNING EDGE AND HE WAS BEATING ALL THE FORDS, IRONICALLY WITH A FORD MOTOR THAT THE ENGINEERS AT LOTUS USED AS A TEST BED. WHICH LATER ON BECAME THE FORD MODULAR MOTOR WE KNOW OF TODAY. I COULD SEE THE FACES ON THE FORD ENGINEERS THAT LOTUS LAUGHING THERE HEADS OFF WHEN GM AND DALE EARNHARDT AND THAT MR GOODRICH CAR WAS WINNING. AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS IN OPERATION. THE CHAPMAN LOTUS V-8 WAS REMOVED AND SENT BACK TO ENGLAND FOR EXAMINATION.

[@evanhooper1]

@@wilsoncombat1341 GM dumped the LT5 because it was too big and costly to justify putting into the C5

[@logut80]

Same old song & dance, ppl talking about how cheap LS is. I've got plenty of friends with LS's stuff and i can assure you they're not as cheap as the internet ppl make them out to be

[@mesanders1113]

As a previous LS guy and now a coyote owner this makes me happy

[@michaelrodgers6559]

As an S550 owner, I'm partial to the Coyote, although anyone with half a brain will admit that the LS is just way more available at yards for swaps. Waiting to see what the power graphs look like... Looks like those of us that bought Coyote mustangs win, even being .3 liters down on displacement. If I had a big budget for a swap, and it fit, I'd go Coyote. I'm more likely to be on a 5.3 budget though 😅

[@dejanfreighter2926]

Naturally...I like the screamer, but nothing a cheap good cam, intake ,& exhaust on LS can touch, but a lot simler...cheaper

[@tturi2]

even a Honda k24 engine swap is going to cost almost coyote money

[@michaelrodgers6559]

@tturi2 those K24s are slick though. If I was doing a low weight build, I'd probably go turbo K24.

[@NBSV1]

That’s a really big part of why the LS swap is so common. The engines are easy to find and are generally easy to fit in most things. The extra complexity and physical size makes a coyote swap a little tougher.

[@chevy383jt]

I sort of wanted to buy a new-ish Camaro or Mustang. I decided to just put a turbo 5.3 in my single cab '90 sierra instead. Instant N/A car destroyer.

[@seanhenderson2079]

If your pockets are deep , coyote is Forsure the clear winner. If you’re balling on a budget it’s kinda hard to beat a Escalade 6.0. Diehard ford guy , and even I’ll admit I hate the price tag that comes with my blue oval rigs. But I’m not sacrilegious so it’s staying blue oval powered. 😂

[@AddictionAuto]

Nothing beats the cost per HP of a LS.

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

And it will still slower than a coyote

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@AddictionAuto if you don't mind warped heads, 200 LS in the shop blown up, 12 coyotes nuf said.

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@AddictionAuto if your looking for cheap hp. How about the most pentized engine in history the 351 Cleveland, been weight penalized engine in history, NASCAR made ford give away the secrets of there D 351 heads to the rest of the teams, "Chevy" so they could compete against ford. Don't believe me check out the old. Canted valve NASCAR heads. No there not modeled after the big block Chevy heads.

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@AddictionAuto better check out the Godzilla , big cubes, big torque, big hp. Now at the cost of an LS aftermarket imbraced, similar cost of LS parts skys the limit on this beast

[@AddictionAuto]

@@Supercharged287SOHC 🤣🤣🤣 you’re funny!

[@Airsally]

Them 4 valve heads ,and higher tech cam timing rocked the ls.

[@Smasher-Devourer]

5.3: cheap and available, but needs A LOT to even match a coyote 5.0: more expensive, but gets better gas mileage, makes more power stock, likes boost

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Gas mileage, lmao

[@jbeasley2528]

Yeah a 5.3 will make as much power as a coyote for the same money. And 5.3 LOVES boost. Dumbest comment ever

[@brianpulley8652]

I'm a Ford guy and I personally have always thought the coyote is just to big in size for what it is and way to many parts and I was so glad they finally come out with the 6.8 and 7.3 CIB design.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Ohv you mean

[@brianpulley8652]

@@shadowopsairman1583 CIB-Cam in Block

[@pauranen]

@@brianpulley8652 OHV = CIB but nobody uses that in term, it's either ohv or pushrod motor in spoken language

[@brianpulley8652]

@@pauranen just how old are you? OHV- over head valve which is ever engine built since the flathead V8.

[@tehtehkhantengames8580]

I own both, the coyote is better in my opinion but also much more expensive to build and get built properly. My yote is my daily and my 5.3 l33 vette is my fun toy.

[@Kosmic949]

The strength of the Coyote is it's efficiency.

[@hotdog9262]

but do a mustang v8 get better mpg then a v8 camaro. seems the answer is no

[@Kosmic949]

@@hotdog9262 well if you're trying to make more power, mpg doesn't really matter much.

[@acunit1639]

It's very efficient in it's weight and handling, almost as good as the corvette. If i could test which one would get better mpg doing a lean burn, i would, but i can't. I'd still put it side by side with the camaro ss. But for mpg, weight, and handling, i would have to go with the corvette

[@acunit1639]

​@@hotdog9262Wrong, a mustang will get better mpg. Compare the 2010 ss to the 2011 mustang gt

[@Kosmic949]

@@acunit1639 Yeah can't fault you there, can never go wrong with a Vette. Personally I'd love a C5 with an LS7.

[@GIGABACHI]

YUP 😛, exactly what I imagined. Given almost the same displacement, it's hard to beat the engine with VVT and 4v heads. It's just the nature of the beast, proven time and again . . . and I'm not a Ford guy. More of a Gen 2 LT1 and BBC guy.

[@dougmedeiros8862]

Me too all I can afford are Dinosaurs

[@dougmedeiros8862]

I mess with 500 Cadillac s too.

[@cnewell1971]

How can you compare and truck engine with 9.5.1 compression that makes 295hp from the factory to a engine that is 12.1 compression that makes 460hp from the factory? Change the pistons in the ls to 12.1 then compare them..with the swaps they made and the coyote only made a 100hp more than a low compression truck engine i would say that is a win for the LS! and the ls was a junkyard engine with a ton of miles on it..thats a no brainer!! LS all the way!!

[@pheonixfps9248]

​@@cnewell1971it wasn't a 12:1 engine. It was a gen 1 coyote engine.....

[@cnewell1971]

@@pheonixfps9248 ok then..11.1..my bad vs a wore out 9.5.1 engine...ls still wins!! Lol

[@GregoryBrettin]

I like the smaller packaging of the LS. Worked great for my 370z swap.

[@thewheelman1993]

I'm 5.3 swapping a 370z rn

[@GregoryBrettin]

@@thewheelman1993 make sure you have a good rear diff. I blew mine out and had to rebuild my car after.

[@thewheelman1993]

@@GregoryBrettin Thinking about doing a Ford 8.8 diff since I'm putting a tremec TKX 5 speed in it

[@cliffordcullen1687]

Both great engines. LS fits in everything because of its compact size. Both very capable engines

[@CALISPEC1]

Liter for liter the Coyote is unbeatable for power but Ford gave a big middle finger to all of us NA fans by limiting the Coyote to 5.0 liters. If Ford would offer a few larger cubic inch version (ie a 6.0 and 7.0 liter) they would be the undisputed king of performance. I’ve always wondered about the potential of a 7.0 liter Coyote screaming at 8k RPMs, it would be nasty!

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@CALISPEC1 thought about a Godzilla, cheap lots of power, big torque, companies are supporting them, becoming redaly available at junk yards. Nowhere near as big wide engine really not much bigger than a 351, looks like a good choice to me .

[@milojanis4901]

There is no replacement for displacement.....BUT.......There's also no replacement for twice as many valves, each with only a fraction of the valve spring stiffness. I own a built LS7 in my C5 Corvette. But I also came from the motorcycle engine crowd, where 2-3 hp/cubic inch stock engines, with 4 valves a cylinder, are fairly common. Mighty hard to beat 9,500rpm capable Coyote engines with a pushrod engine. My company built leak test machines for the Coyote engine production line. As soon as I saw it, I knew Ford had finally gotten it right in regards to OHC engines, excluding the 427 of the 60's.

[@OctaneSlain]

Coyote all the way. These LS guys use pricing as an argument, while they throw in unbranded "sloppy stage 2" cams in their 300k 5.3 junkyard motors. Every LS page I'm in, engines are always piston slapping, having trunnion failure, oil pump o-ring failure, and more. If you're broke, then yea LS is superior lmfao.

[@fpv_lewy3813]

Don’t gotta be broke to build and LS. Mines was built ground up with a dart block. It will smoke any coyote that tries me. Mustangs are always getting smoked on the road. lol can’t even keep their cars straight.

[@OctaneSlain]

@@fpv_lewy3813 Sounds like a lot of copium and money spent on a dart block to continually lose to stock bottom end Coyotes...

[@oldcarguy6863]

I'd like to see the newer 5.3LT vs the Coyote.

[@whistlenuts2564]

The gen 3 coyote would crush a newer 5.3.

[@1HotRodHudson]

As always another great video. Love the comparison even if I’ll never hear the end of it from my buddy with his coyote!

[@markbunn8576]

Coyotes are great engines but you could probably build a big block for the price and make serious power.

[@ChefofWar33]

Oh yah. Boosted big blocks are just absurd. Hell, a NA big block would whoop a Coyote and still probably be smaller. XD

[@mrmidnight32]

Cayote is an amazing motor. The issue is cost per HP. These things cost 2x-3x the price of a LS, and 4-5x the price to upgrade. I love these motors but they’re too dam expensive, they also sound amazing. Which is why almost everything I own has an LS.

[@nauticajones252]

When you say ls be specific because the LT1 2, and 3 are expensive asl to mod and to buy and still make less hp per dollar

[@andrue17]

I always hear about an ls is cheaper to mod than a coyote, but what people don't understand is you don't need to do anything extra with a coyote. Just pretty much boost, fuel system and oil pump gears if over 1,000 hp. Ad all the costs of heads, intake, headers, fuel system and others just to get the ls or lt on the same level as a coyote with boost and it's a wash with cost.

[@devone6139]

LS is simply the better, cheaper, easier option for 90% of builds if not more. Cheap, easy power from a junkyard LS will wipe the floor with any coyote under $10,000

[@user-nz3bs7fh6y]

Based on this video obviously not.

[@governmentcalamari9785]

The coyote as a whole,is a better engine then the ls. It’s using modern methods of creating power. It has multiples records of hp on bone stock engines. However the ls and soon to be lt will always have over the coyote is width and aftermarket. And those two reason are the biggest driving force swaps.

[@MrTurbotyla]

I paid $1800 for a gen 2 coyote f150 engine from a junkyard and boosted it to 1000rwhp. Coyote stuff is still slightly more expensive but you don’t have to do cams or beads for big power. It’s a wash on price.

[@rocsti5402]

I think the direct injection gen 3 is a whole different scenario... Almost wish it had a different name or something to distinguish it more, most dont even know they went direct in 2018+. Changes the abilities and cost probably a solid 10-30%

[@michaelrodgers6559]

Plus you get the extra RPM to play with

[@169abr]

@@rocsti5402 the gen 2 is the best engine, when you get to big boy power they DI is deleted and you stick to port injection. Gen 3 is fantastic up to ~1200whp which is an insanely high ceiling for 5.0L and stock cams.

[@11secghia]

Amen brother!!

[@Albertgermanaro-fs7yf]

@@MrTurbotyla just had to put this out there: have you seen the 2025 GT 500? 7 LITER engine ust be the Godzilla coming out for a ride, wow!!

[@edjackson4389]

FORD!! As a lifetime Ford guy (born into a blue oval family) Im happy with this comparison 😁

[@joshvick6178]

you really shouldn't be... theres a reason he left out the dollar amount per hp... once you factor that and invest what you paid for the coyote mods that LS engine blows it out of the water.... ford would be great if they didnt cost a metric ton for almost everything

[@edjackson4389]

@@joshvick6178 If you're broke just say so. I've been hear that price comparison BS my whole life. Who gives a shit. If you're pinching pennies find a new hobby because none of it's cheap

[@joshvick6178]

@@edjackson4389 next time lead with " im a dumb ahh and have feeling so im gonna speak through my ahh instead" XDDD clown

[@edjackson4389]

@@joshvick6178 Ok Scooter. Just remember who started this. You decided to chime in with your irrelevant bow tie feelings. Otherwise you never would have heard from this clown

[@brianperry1658]

Coyote is a monster of technology and efficiency. I feel like LS stuff is played out way too much

[@chrisreynolds6520]

The VK56VD eats both of them, stock for stock. The 5.6L makes the same peak power as the Coyote but does it at 6,200 rpm and has another 60 ft/lbs of torque down at 1,500 rpm.

[@Airman..]

You are missing the point. Comparison here is about modifications/aftermarket support and availability not about the output of a behemoth Japanese v8

[@bdugle1]

You said it-when was the last time you found a coyote in the junk yard? There are millions of truck-type LSs. If the four-valve couldn’t out perform the pushrod two-valve design it would be pretty sad. I’ll stick to my 6.0, though. Thanks, Richard!

[@andrewfitzgerald1174]

there everywhere in the junkyards. at least my area at least. F150's get wrecked every day.

[@flyin427ford]

@@andrewfitzgerald1174 BINGO! Coyote is no longer a Mustang Unicorn and Very available, also cheap considering you don't have to replace half the engine with VERY expensive parts. Plus tuned on OEM ECM

[@scottythebody0811]

I’d love to see Ford make a bigger displacement Coyote. Imagine a 7.0

[@rocsti5402]

They could call it King Kong or Zeus or something..

[@klyfhutto572]

Look up Ford Godzilla

[@rocsti5402]

@@klyfhutto572 all i get is some nissan gtr thing , maybe they should have built it 10-20 years ago when mercedes & the rest of the world was wrapping up on it instead of waiting so long... All jokes aside is Ford original at literally anything? I can't think of a single thing that wasn't "borrowed" down to gt40 schemes lol... Maybe the mystichrome cobra, noone had balls for that but im sure im missing something. Only a matter of time before they offer an all aluminum bare body (not a cobra but more deloreon style, im surprised they haven't already lol.

[@scottythebody0811]

@@klyfhutto572 Yeah…that’s a pushrod engine…not even close to the Coyote

[@klyfhutto572]

@scottythebody0811 Glad you found it. You're correct. It's not as efficient as the coyote, but it would be interesting to compare it to the LS 7. The Coyote, naturally aspirated cubic inch to cubic inch, is an amazing engine. Mast Motorsports has made some aftermarket stuff for the Godzilla. Maybe some other companies also.

[@ZedTee77]

I reckon the next test should just be get a stock LS and stock Coyote and boost them with no head or cam change, see how far they can go as is.

[@howellbranham9460]

depends on the generation of coyote block . otherwise they'll make as much as you can throw at them

[@LordJerinza]

No need for that. Everyone know the yote is the Kong of boost in stock trim

[@user-mm1se7gy7e]

Yeah , until the oil pump gear cracks in half and takes out the whole damn engine , been there !

[@LordJerinza]

@@user-mm1se7gy7e they will!...what hp number was you at? Cause the Ls would leave the chat way before then.

[@zeuscasey]

​@@user-mm1se7gy7eit's pretty much been proven that the opg's let go because people keep bouncing off the rev limiter. There's tons of 1000hp coyotes running around with stock opg's with no issues. Just stay off the rev limiter.

[@AceDangermann]

So all the extra parts, complexity and chain length actually make a little more power with a similar displacement? I remember the Engine Labs Shootout where I almost felt sorry for the Coyote guys and Steve Brule summed it up: "When you take an (LS) engine that's 7/8ths the size of that (Coyote) package and you can make 75 more cubic inches in it and it probably weighs a bit less and t makes more power, it shows that it's the clear winner all the way around". Hard to argue.

[@alpinesupra88]

This is a no brainer, I am an LS guy through and through but any DOHC head will alway out perform a SINGLE CAM head or engine. But the GM motors have always been easier to obtain, cheaper to build and cheaper to rebuild. Once you get both motors to the same horsepower it only comes down to weight of the vehicles they are in and the skill of the driver.

[@johngregory4801]

Two great engines, use them as desired.

[@crautoguy8384]

I am a Chevy guy through-and-through not a big fan of the Ford Coyote but makes good power Sounds amazing The very simple fact is the LS is simple and cheap It's the way it's always been May not be hands down better True performance guy Knows that Ford cylinder heads for the most part always flowed better than the Chevy's But Chevy's are cheap simple and common That's why they win

[@motherlovinsnuffstar]

A big bang test between these two would have been badass too!

[@jeffschwartz5199]

Thanks Richard for telling it like it is 👍👍

[@Airman..]

always been an LS/SBC guy, as pushrod engines they suffer from inefficient breathing, on the other hand the Coyote is a well rounded v8, breaths good, it can riv far higher, good internals, seen a few boosted 5.0 with 1xxx whp no issues whatsoever

[@michaelrodgers6559]

Good to see someone who isn't blinded by their tribal alignments 👍🏻

[@RindosRides]

​@@michaelrodgers6559 Chevy is clearly better though. What they managed to do with a dead simple pushrod V8 is impressive. A gen V LS would make more power still. If we want to talk dual overhead cam, the LT6 shattered all records.

[@jameswade2002]

@@michaelrodgers6559 All right man, tell me all about valve curtain area, bore shrouding, valve/chamber shrouding, and how Pro-Stock racing engines make 3hp per cubic inch at over 10,000rpm without 4v DOHC heads.

[@michaelrodgers6559]

@@jameswade2002 I don't need to talk about any of that. My point is that VE does actually matter. It's physics.

[@jameswade2002]

@@michaelrodgers6559 Okay, let me clarify. VE is cam size and head flow at RPMs. JPS Racing shows Coyote heads showing about 290cfm stock and their worked over ones come in around 340cfm at .650" lift, even though none of their cams lift over .515" so it's more like a 315cfm head. LS3 heads flow that stock and Gen3 Hemi Apache heads blow them out of the water with 340cfm, so with enough RPMs all three engine families will get there, but the Coyote can't rev high enough to make more power than a stock LS3 with giant cam and long tubes spinning to 7,000rpm. So a discussion about VE and cylinder head flow is moot because Ford ain't even got what the other guys have, hence VE doesn't matter here, or anywhere else when we are taking about racy small blocks or kickass big blocks. The heads and cams are out there so only displacement matters because all of them can rev to the moon with solid roller cams and good springs. This test had to be engineered to let the Coyote win by limiting the bore size and thus head flow of the LS down to where Richard knew the Coyote could win because that is what the Ford guy want to see. Displacement is king, and nothing else on modern engines matters.

[@All_Stock_Garage]

I would think comparing the coyote to the ls3 makes sense since they were direct competitors in the mustangs and Camaros.

[@pancudowny]

1st rule of engine building: It's not what you displace, but how you displace it.😉

[@samholcombe3129]

Both impressive being stock bottom end engines, it still amazes me that a 5.3 ohv is any where near a DOHC 5.0. Two ways of letting the eagles scream, one needs 4X the cams and valves one needs 1.2 more liters of displacement. I’ve seen a stock LT1 make 512 hp on an engine dyno, It might have been on this channel.

[@19jody72]

The coyote is the new king, even more power than the ls6!.. but damn is it expensive.

[@redneckrevolt1]

LS cost: $3000 crate engine, $3500 2x heads, $500 1x cam, $1500 intake. Coyote cost: $12,000 crate engine, $5000 2x heads, $1500 4x cams. Now port the stock LS heads with big valves to save $3000 on heads. Then add $13k in boost to the LS and that will match the NA coyote moded comparison. How is this even a comparison? LS is mechanic friendly too! Coyotes will bite the hand that feeds them 😂 I wish I could do this myself but I’m too rich in life 😅

[@speedeetrim4028]

Ford guy here all the way...but the LS is still best bang for the buck

[@Bravo21]

Would be interesting to see the cost difference HP/$$ between the Coyote and the 5.3 you tested. Honestly I see nothing new here. This situation has been the same since the 60's. Yes, Ford motors can make power but they are expensive to build and parts are sometimes hard to find. While Chevy motors make power for a lot less money, it's easy to find parts and in my experience they are more reliable and cheaper to own/repair. Ford builds some good motors, absolutely. But if it's a question of HP/$$ the GM motors have been coming out on top for decades and is the reason the LS is everywhere.

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

I agree with everything you said. If I had the money, I'd be a MoPar man, but I don't, so I'm a GM guy. Nothing against Ford, but they don't work as well for the most part and cost way more while being hard to find parts for. Coyote motors are probably going to make great power, but they're huge and expensive and 5.3s (even aluminum block ones like the two I own) are cheap, light, small, and really are just amazingly reliable and modifiable with a whole UNIVERSE of aftermarket support.

[@joeh6697]

Excrement costs less than Steak !!! Say it's not so!

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

@@joeh6697 But LSs are fantastic motors. Most reliable 500 hp out there, and cheap.

[@asherdie]

@@joeh6697 filet vs ribeye. Ford Bois so stupid

[@Frank289100]

RICHARD MAY HAVE TO USE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT ABOUT THE FORD VERSUS CHEVY CONTROVERSY, BECAUSE IF HE TELLS THE TRUTH. THE CHEVY GUYS WILL TAKE HIS HEAD OFF WITH A GUILLOTINE FOR TELLING THE TRUTH LIKE THEY DID TO JOHN THE BAPTIST. NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS HERE ON MY PART WHEN IT COMES TO TELLING THE TRUTH. NONE OF YOU PEOPLE HERE, INCLUDING THE FORD GUYS HAVE NO IDEA WHY FORD MOTORS COST MORE TO BUILD AND WHY PARTS WERE HARD TO GET. SO LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD. IT WAS ALL BASED ON CHEATING BY THE NHRA WHO ARE ANOTHER DIVISION FOR GM TO PROTECT THE PHONY CHEVY RACING DYNASTY. WHEN THE FORD 289 DEBUTED IN THE 60S. THEY WERE CONSTANTLY CHANGING THE RULE BOOK AND RULES BOTH WRITTEN ON UNWRITTEN TO DISCOURAGE ANYBODY FROM RUNNING IT. IT WAS A MAJOR THREAT TO THE SMALL CHEVY. IN THE COBRAS, THE SMALL BLOCK FORD WAS DESTROYING THE CORVETTES WITH THEIR 327'S. THE CORVETTES WERE NO COMPETITION. IN 1964, THE DAYTONA COUPE DESTROYED FERRARI AND WON LEMANS BY ALMOST 40 MINUTES AND WERE CLOCK AT OVER 200 MPH. SOMETHING THE CHEVY SMALL-BLOCK COULD ONLY DREAM OF DOING. IT HELD A TOP SPEED RECORD AT BONNEVILLE AT 183 MPH RIGHT BEHIND THE CHEVY 396 BIG BLOCK CLOCKED AT 186 MPH. WITH THAT SMALL CUBIC INCH THE FORD WAS THREE MILES PER HOUR SLOWER THAN THE CHEVY 396 BIG BLOCK. EVERYWHERE THE COBRA SHOWED UP AT RACE TRACKS HERE IN AMERICA. THEY MAULED DOWN THE CORVETTES. IN THE QUARTER MILE THE 289'S WERE FIERCE COMPETITORS. IF YOU SHOWED UP WITH A CERTAIN SETUP AND WON THE CLASS. THE NEXT TIME YOU CAME BACK TO THE RACETRACK. THE RULES ON THE MOTOR WERE CHANGE AND YOU COULDN'T RACE. OVERNIGHT THEY WERE CHANGING THE RULES ON THE SMALL BLOCK FORD. IT GOT SO BAD THAT THE SMALL BLOCK FORD DISAPPEARED OFF THE QUARTER MILE. BY THE EARLY SEVENTIES ONLY TWO GUYS WERE RUNNING THE SMALL BLOCK FORD 289. BUY CHANGING THE RULES ON THE SMALL BLOCK FORD, NEITHER WOULD FORD NOR ANY AFTERMARKET MANUFACTURER MAKE RACE PARTS IN VOLUME WHICH MADE PARTS AFFORDABLE AND CHEAP, FOR THE SMALL BLOCK FORD THAT WOULD BE OUTLAWED OVERNIGHT WHERE THEY WOULD GET STUCK WITH A WAREHOUSE FULL OF SCRAP METAL. NOT UNTIL 1987 WAS A RACE HEAD AVAILABLE FOR THE SMALL BLOCK FORD WHEN TRICKFLOW MADE THEM, "THAT IS RIDICULOUS" AND THE END RESULT OF THE NHRA DID, HENCHMEN FOR CHEVY OUTLAWING RACE PARTS FOR THE FORD'S. I REMEMBER TALKING TO A GUY WHO BUILT THE CAMARO BACK IN THE SIXTIES AND SAID HE WANTED TO BUILD A FORD SO BAD. BUT THE PARTS FOR THE SMALL BLOCK FORD WERE SO EXPENSIVE HE COULDN'T AFFORD THEM. HE SAID HE WORKED IN A DELI AND MADE PRETTY GOOD MONEY AND PUT LONG HOURS IN. AND EVERY PAYCHECK HE MADE WENT INTO HIS SMALL BLOCK CAMARO. HE SAID IMAGINE IF HE BUILT A FORD. HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THREE JOBS TO AFFORD TO BUILD A FORD. MOST OF YOUR ENGINES FROM PONTIAC, BUICK, OLDSMOBILE, CHRYSLER, AMC ARE OF A CONVENTIONAL ENGINE DESIGN THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE CHEVY SMALL BLOCK. THE CHRYSLER SMALL BLOCK IS A BETTER MOTOR BY DESIGN THAN THE CHEVY MOTOR. SO TELL ME WHY THE SMALL BLOCK CHRYSLER NEVER REACHED THE SUPREMACY IN RACING OF THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY. TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION: THE NHRA DETERMINED THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY TO WIN THAT'S WHY. IF THE CHEVY SMALL-BLOCK WAS BETTER THAN A SMALL BLOCK FORD. THEN WHY DID THEY SCRAP THE OLD SMALL BLOCK CHEVY AND REDESIGN A NEW SMALL BLOCK YOUR LS WHICH IS A MILLION PERCENT BASED ON ALL FORD DESIGN. IT'S A REGURGITATED FORD 427 HIGH RISER AKA RAISED PORT 351 WINDSOR. NOT ONE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE OLD SMALL BLOCK CHEVY LIVES IN THE LS. THE LS IS ALL FORD IN DESIGN. IN MY OPINION THE MOST CRIMINAL THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN RACING IS CHEVY/GM COPYING FORD AND MAKING THE LS MOTOR. IF ANY OF YOU CHEVY GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE FORD CHEVY CONTROVERSY FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

[@169abr]

Coyote is the choice for pure performance, the Gen 2/3 stuff has been well over 1000whp on stock motor and Joel Steele was making 1300whp on a stock Roadrunner that had ARP hardware. Brett Lasala just went 6.33 @ 225 with a stock crank and factory heads, and Joel broke the domestic stock record with ease. The LS has its place in the world, great engines and abundant as hell and cheap to make very very good power. The biggest thing is that people do the wrong mods on these engines, the huge benefit of these is that all you need is boost, fuel, and a good tune and you’re done. You don’t need heads, cams, porting, manifolds (unless you have a Gen 1/2 Truck engine), or displacement changes.

[@richardholdener1727]

BOOST JUST MULTIPLES THE NA POWER-MORE NA POWER EQUALS MORE POWER AT ANY BOOST LEVEL

[@169abr]

@@richardholdener1727 true, and you’re much much wiser than I’ll ever be Mr Holdener, but I see people make the mistake of camming their coyote when stock cams make 1300whp and it’s just money you don’t need to spend if you have a car with the coyote already installed. If you’re building a motor on a stand though, I can understand using cams as it’s a “down the road” engine.

[@jtthedon4230]

​@@169abrexactly! You don't need much to make a stock unopened coyote hit 1000whp, unlike the LS...everything has to be upgraded!💯💯💯

[@pimpovic2]

I'm a Ford Pushrod guy. But building my 363 engine is costing me over 10k. A reasonably low mile sealed gen 2/3 Coyote can be had for $6500 or less. It's hard to argue against their potential if you don't mind a mod motor. Throw in the aftermarket support for a coyote swap, and it's fairly cheap when you calculate $/hp.

[@backinblck1]

Something else to remember is the 5.3 is using a 102 mm throttle body. The coyote is making all of that power through the stock 85mm throttle body.

[@richardholdener1727]

we used a bigger throttle body on the Boss

[@backinblck1]

@@richardholdener1727 was it the 87mm from the boss 302?

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

I'd like to see a dollar to dollar comparison between the LS and Coyote. Im guessing you could get more power per dollar with the LS. The Coyote is a good engine. Just way too expensive. Also too complicated compared with the LS

[@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77]

Of course it's complicated an ls is. Just a reversed engineered Ford 60s engine

[@MegaHanklee]

Enginemasters did it. They used a 2nd hand truck 5.0 too. So the baselines were actually close. But in the end the coyote is just way more money in every facet. You can say "but what if money is no object?" Then you wouldn't start with a junkyard 5.3 either.

[@Oliver-ft2fq]

Coyote cams are a lot easier to swap than LS.

[@InFamousAlex209]

My personal experience. Stock Gen 2 Coyote, Ported 2.9 Whipple, 3.250 pulley, Fore L4 Fuel system, 1050x injectors, E-85, ~900whp/700wtq. Drives like stock out of boost and idles like stock. It’s easier to throw boost and fuel at a coyote and make 650-800whp, than it would be to make comparable #’s with an LS.

[@HackoDis]

A natural aspirated coyote for me all day long. The LS has been swapped to death, why would i want to run what everyone else runs. My idea is to make a killer Crown victoria prerunner with either a DOHC 4.6l or go big with a coyote making 5-600HP NA. I would love to find a Ford V10 and swap into a Lincoln Town Car of sorts and make something unique and fun with that.

[@mallardhunterhunter8588]

I'm a coyote guy. But, I don't dish on ls. Run what you like and have some fun!

[@SirtubalotTX]

One of my favorite n/a Coyotes: /watch?v=xowQK7vFd2A 744 rwhp and 10k rpm. Both great engines but Coyote hard to keep up with.

[@TheMoldyOne]

Most people would go 6.2l ls or the bigger 7.0L Ls. The coyote, being a brand new crate purchase, voids this test for the most part. But does a good job showing the improvements the more advanced Coyote dual overhead cam and 4 valve setup gives. Also for anyone who knows anything when if you found a junkyard coyote that is in working condition it will cost upwards of 4 times the ls.

[@jeffrey4547]

i like the newer LS 7 427 with 4 valve per cylinder dual over head cams 860 hp stock with out boost but i am a 454 bbc fan

[@robertgardner1259]

Very 1st set of mods the heads on the LS was replaced with very expensive aftermarket.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

​@@jeffrey4547Someone made a document conversion for it? With that bore size and the 40 to 44mm intake valves those probably flow 400cfm without being touched up to 450cfm with porting. Or enough to make 1100 or so he naturally aspirated.

[@TravisFabel]

yeah. he said that @12:20 I think its a more relevant test for people that already have a coyote engine car, vs building a LS for it. Even though I am a LS fan, as the current Camaro sucks so bad at being a nice street car, I ended up buying a new mustang instead. It feels slow, but thats mostly because there are no sudden peaks of power, combined with the stupid traction control system keeping me from ever being near breaking the tires loose.

[@Apophion]

Most people do not go 6.2 LS or bigger. This is an incorrect statement. All the LS craze is from the cheap LS based 4.8 and 5.3 that boost is added to. Cheap, accessible...etc. It's ok to admit both platforms are good. ;)

[@HighrSelf]

After getting beat by one at the last event, our Boy Cleetus McFarland has taken a recent liking to the Coyote as well. 😮

[@purebredamericanmutt]

You see the LS in everything from the beetle to yes Mustangs. I'm old school and have the original 5.3. I have a 67 327 with AFR ported heads in a 84 El Camino. The LS is in the 2001 Silverado that pulls it to the track. Horsepower keeps the speed torque is what gets you the speed

[@J2000Z71]

Doesn’t the 5.3 have about 12 years in the coyote. Go ahead and compare it to the 4.6. I believe that would be more appropriate.

[@jeremyjseifert]

5.4 if you are talking truck motors.

[@J2000Z71]

@@jeremyjseifert ah yes, sorry 4.6 and 5.0 come to mind as mustang engines right off the bat. The 4.6 also came in truck. So how about a 4.6/4.8 and 5.3/5.4.

[@BRob1320]

​@@J2000Z71still too many variables.. 2v, 3v, 4v.. 4v had different heads depending, Mark V8, vs Mustang vs Truck/SUV.. there would still be someone crying "not fair" 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@hocinetahar4264]

Are you trying to prove something here !!? 🤔. The dual is between an ls and coyote. That it

[@ThisClarkDude]

Because quiet frankly the early modular ford motors are good but the ls platform was beating Ford until the coyotes came out.

[@joemeyers1016]

Both are solid platforms. The 5.3 LS is still going to be the popular option being it is a more affordable compact design that the average shade tree mechanic can work on. How many Coyote owners actually have done the mods in video themselves vs LS owners? The Coyote is an excellent platform either way. I said that it was going to be a force to reckon with back in 2010 when it was being revealed for the 2011 Mustang GT. This video proves that...however the DI LT engines tilted the tables back towards GM. You should do a comparison video of a Coyote vs a L83.

[@shawnlibby675]

Corvette 5.7 LS6 made 420 flywheel Factory..i think..

[@f3nixfire]

Not really......the coyotes strength has always been boost. They make bigger power on boost than the GM or dodge motors especially when you compare stock sealed motors. Gen 3 coyotes can make 1200 hp no problem on a stock sealed motor with nothing but boost and the supporting mods for said boost. They can do all this without blowing up. The same cannot be said for LS or LT motors.

[@chadwalker50]

Let’s see a Gen 2 Coyote test, and or use a 5.2 block, but not with the flat plane crank.

[@sespeedshop]

$ spend vs $ spend LS is the way. Nothing against Yote but get more for the $ and smaller package. Hard to beat the LS

[@sethsmith6956]

Can you weigh the two engines? 😅

[@169abr]

I’m pretty sure the coyote weighs in at ~430lbs

[@joshgessinger4509]

On a budget the 5.3 is better way to go and fits better for engine swaps. But of course if money is no object then coyote way to go. The 5.3 is actually more impressive my opinion because its a old school push rod engine. That being said coyote is definitely a impressive engine for sure.

[@daveditcher4059]

I have two observations here. Obviously, a well engineered DOHC engine is going to have superior performance compared to a similar sized OHV engine. The second observation is pure supply and demand. GM has built millions of trucks with LS power over many years. Ford has sold millions of trucks with Ecoboost V6’s. Coyotes are in demand and short supply. Basic economics plus a more complex engine means more $$ for a Coyote. I don’t see that changing. Thanks for the comparison Richard.

[@thelastminuteman7513]

Technology wise Ford has been ahead of GM for a long time. The LS as usual is just cheap displacement. Though I would be interested in seeing a test like this between Fords 7.3 gas job vs. GMs 7.0L LS.

[@mikelliteras397]

the arguing is what’s makes this fun. It’s also why, being a Ford guy, hate that the Camaro is gone. McDonalds needs Burger King and Wendy’s, the Mustang needs the Camaro to keep the segment alive. The Challenger is decent for that reason also.

[@timweb1510]

Those fast food places all suck

[@benkrom2737]

Coyote is an awesome engine. It's just physically bigger and won't fit as many applications and costly compared to the ls. Make a set of heads for the Coyote that uses solenoids to open and close valves instead of 4 big cams and Yeah, fitment won't be an issue just cost 💁‍♂️

[@chrisbooge2217]

@benkrom2737 physically the difference between the ls and coyote is only a inch or less in most cases Measurements H x W x L if the front of the ls not dressed with any accessories mounted it is 26"s wide 30" with accessories the coyote is 29" with accessories, the ls is 22"s tall where the coyote is only 20.5"s. The 5.0 coyote in not a piece of crap 4.6 mod motor it's a total ground up redesign.

[@RealSVTJunkie]

Coyote is king. Plain and simple It does it with less displacement, and is more efficient, and it outperforms the LS/LT in almost every measurable metric. You don’t have to buy a kill the dolphins cam, big $$ heads, and stratosphere Hiram intakes to make big power with a Coyote like you do a LS/LT.. All you need is boost and fuel with a coyote, and countless examples of Gen2+ Coyotes w/15psi through TT’s making 1000rwhp with sealed unopened engines. And note, he’s comparing a Gen 1 Coyote(weakest of the Coyote family)vs a bigger displacement engine the LS 5.3 The coyote engine is very impressive and one of/if not the best engine platforms out currently, in my humble opinion. Look what happened at FL2K recently this year…

[@richardholdener1727]

how do cams kill dolphins?

[@willsmith8586]

The four valves is where it makes up the any displacement. The same reason the Barra and the 4200 run so well. They are efficient as hell as air pumps. Ford spent years getting the mod motor right. Chevy used the LS for years without much R&D, which is nice for the salvage yard picks, but not much in future. Honestly, I dislike the kind of people that drive Coyotes. They're like the Camaro guys from highschool driving daddy's car stock with exception to a blower. They have no idea how to get a few hp here and there to win by a nose. With the exception of a smaller pulley.

[@ryancompeau146]

Be interesting to see the curve with the compression the same. Add another 6% at least to the 5.3 power curve everywhere. Kind of hard to compare the 2 when that particular LS is 10 years older and isnt even a gen IV which hurts the stock vs stock comparison. The aftermarket one really the only difference is the comp ratio.

[@davidgomez3737]

Exactly

[@enigma9789]

Well thats a gen 1 coyote. just admit the coyote is better.

[@ryancompeau146]

@enigma9789 coyote is better at some things, LS is better at others. I'm not loyal to either, I'm just an engine guy. I'm just saying that personally it would be cool to see 2 identical builds and then look at the differences. The biggest difference between the 2 (besides architecture) is the compression, so be cool to see what that alone does to the 2 power curves.

[@justingill5256]

​@ryancompeau146 lol LS or LT tows better but even a tuned 6.2 struggles to keep up with just a tune gen 3 coyote. Mpg better and coyote is faster

[@ryancompeau146]

@justingill5256 lol. Depends which 6.2 your talking about, and which Coyote your talking about. Truck engines? 6.2 has it beat in hp and tq. If the 5.0 is faster its because of the truck not the power. Talking Mustang 5.0 vs 6.2 LT2, again 6.2 has it beat in power. Displacement is a wonderful thing. Even if they had the same peak power, the 6.2 average power just eats it. Mpg you cant really debate because that is to driver dependent.

[@mikeneumiller2725]

The coyote engines from trucks can be had pretty inexpensively. I think it would've been better to compare 2 truck engines. The coyote is more expensive to mod but really doesn't need it to compete with a basic ls engine. The same money into each and I think the coyote would still excell.

[@Prestiged_peck]

The truck coyote is almost identical aside from firing order.

[@koncha0422]

​@@Prestiged_peckcams

[@thrivingepicnezz7025]

The only reason the LS motors are plentiful in junkyards is because the transmissions behind them suck. But I want to see a redline match between the coyote vs the LS and see who blows up first. The LS is the stronger motor by far. However I can respect the coyote for it's power.

[@TJsVette]

I guess I'm biased but I have owned both Ford and Chevy and I will keep my Chevy any day of the week over any Ford.

[@Bill-flatplanefool]

I honestly feel like the two engines change places based on goals. I think they both do ok until 800-1000hp depending on the very specific engine you get. But clearly the ls motors are cheaper from a junkyard. I think a max effort sleeved coyote goes further than a max effort stock block based ls motor. I think the ls is cheaper in the 1000-1500hp range.

[@BrendanCBreen]

Coyote certainly has more potential, but the LS does have a leg up in price and packaging.

[@Bill-flatplanefool]

@@BrendanCBreen yeah a coyote doesn’t fit in anything but mustangs, other fox and panther chassis cars and things that a big block hemi would fit in….

[@roderickvinson3425]

Incorrect $for $ more power from a ls all day . Don't matter if a 500 hp or 3k hp build cost is cost and just more bang per $ spent. If it was other way around everything would have a coyote and not a ls 😂 sane goes for hemi Big power / big $$ lol

[@young11984]

@@Bill-flatplanefoolthey fit in a 62 falcon so if i can fit one in there they will fit in nearly any stock chassis especially mid sized chassis or unibody for the wordsmiths out there

[@Bill-flatplanefool]

@@roderickvinson3425 there is no reliable 3000 hp LS motor other than Steve Morris’s billet stuff and if you think you can get that anywhere near the price of Brett LaSalle’s sleeved coyote you can share proof any time

[@mariofrias1749]

Coyote FTW

[@DoctorHemi]

I know you meant this just to compare similar displacement engines, but it's kind of an odd comparison when you think about it. You'd have gotten similar results if you compared the Coyote to the Ford 5.4L truck engines (or to the 2003-2008 5.7L Hemi for that matter). The Coyote's competitors are GM's 6.2L LS3/LT1/LT2 and Chrysler's 6.1L/6.4L Hemis. They were all trying to solve the problem: "How do we make an engine that's even more powerful (than past years), while maintaining reasonable fuel efficiency, low (enough) emissions and won't break the bank while making us proud to offer it in our performance cars?" GM and Chrysler chose high displacement with push rods, while Ford chose DOHC/4-valves-per-cyl but smaller displacement (to keep the physical size of the engine from being too large to fit under the hood). I'd say they all did very well.

[@richardholdener1727]

see the Coyote vs LS3 video

[@frankchapa4165]

Coyote is KING!!! Been 6.33s to the 1/4, no stock setup Ls will touch that 🤣🤣

[@c431inf]

Awesome video, I'm just happy my 5.0 still works after 30 years of beating on it lol the only thing I have ever changed on the engine are plugs and oil (but I have replaced everything else on the car lol) 🇺🇲

[@1gbayfisher]

Its not s coyote

[@c431inf]

Go take your meds pumpkin 😘✌️

[@Swerzuh]

A Foxbody 5.0 Windsor is not a 5.0 coyote lol.

[@c431inf]

​@@Swerzuhplease highlight at what point I said it was sweetie

[@Airman..]

Coyote is a whole different animal

[@MikeSmith-ey7ku]

Better than that LS vs coyote build challenge a few years ago where the Chevy guys came back with a 7 liter LS. I woulda been embarrassed to have to bring a 7 liter to beat the little yote. They both broke but obviously the 7 liter won.

[@richardholdener1727]

they did not do a very good job on that test

[@Thickercarton]

Define better. LS is better for the budget and availability, Coyote is more efficient, just depends what a person is looking for

[@user-cq6fk5go3s]

Also look at the valve surface area a DOHC starts with. It’s already close to maxed out on a cylinder that’s already up against its bore center limit. Stock cam duration is as wide or wider than OHC performance cams. Its variable timing will put the LSA and events where they need to be.

[@garycili6989]

I think for me it comes down to dollars per hp the LS wins hands down not to mention complexity. A smallish turbo would seem to be cheaper and more effective for both.

[@puterg0d]

Anyone that says "you should use a 4.8 or 5.3 because it's closer to the 5.0" is a shill. The Yote is a quad cam high compression, performance motor. The 5.3/4.8 are single cam, low compression pickup truck motors. You should have used, at least, an LS3. One side is small cubes with quad cams, the other, larger cubes with pushrods. That would have been far more "fair" than anything the shills say.

[@DarylCook63]

I’m just glad that Chevy finally decided to put a Coyote clone in their Halo Corvette, the new Z06. Awesome car, that.

[@07slowbalt]

Did you do a 6.2L vs 5.0L yet? As a coyote fan they really love going catless with e-85. Simple but effective. In the n/a world it seems the 6.2 has the slight edge. However in the boosted game its a no brainer the coyote shines all day.

[@richardholdener1727]

the Yote vs LS3 vid is up-but the motor that makes more na power-will make more under boost

[@wilsoncombat1341]

@@richardholdener1727 Alot of variables there but in theory yes with assumptions. But in the real world those limitations start showing up quick near max effort.

[@07slowbalt]

@@richardholdener1727 if your sleeving the Lt/Ls and doing a rod piston swap then id say thats plausible. Im talking bolt ons and stock rotating assembly, bolt on power adder.

[@robertwood3970]

This shows the 4 valve head is superior to a two valve head. This will always be the case.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

VVT will skew the results idle to around 4500 adding 50 ftlb

[@NBSV1]

Yep. Big downside is with a V engine it makes the heads really big which makes the engine big. You gain efficiency, but basically end up with a big block sized small block.

[@madmod]

@@NBSV1 Not really an issue for the kind of cars the engine goes into. The Coyote has a more manageable footprint than the older 4.6 4v

[@robertwood3970]

Yes, but one badass small block.@@NBSV1

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Same ol story with the GM Atlas Engine, remember Gen 2 LT5, Gen V LT6, LT7 and The Northstar are all ohc 4v engines. If im not mistaken the Ecotecs in cars are as well

[@kylesummers1565]

Lol...Peace, Love!! As a pre-qualifier, I am a lousy shade-tree mechanic at best and don't pretend to enter the level of conversation here (and I'm an old to boot). I'm not really a "Ford" guy, but so far, I am getting great mileage and power out of my 23 F-150 Coyote (even at elevation). I thought I was going to do a whipple supercharge on it, but the mpg has given me pause.

[@atflokee]

The coyote is huge and waaay more expensive!

[@nathanwood1567]

The Coyote is a great design, no denying that. However, if you look at the facts the LS is down 16 valves and 3 camshafts and isnt that far behind which imo speaks to the LS design and efficiency for a push rod engine. Now factor in things like costs, ease of modification, and size/difficulty of swap and availability and you begin to see why the LS is such a popular platform for guys of any brand favorite. For most average working men building a Coyote just isnt feasible.

[@pastorofmuppets2349]

A lot of people are diching the coyote swaps and going to the 7.3 godzilla. It's a lot easier to swap as it has a smaller footprint.

[@Corbots80]

​@@pastorofmuppets2349no idea why. More weight, less power.

[@user-cq6fk5go3s]

A pushrod is great for fitting a lot of displacement in a smaller package while being cheaper to tinker with solely due to less parts in total. There’s a reason only a handful of DOHC V8s over 5 liters exist. How big do you think a coyote capable of displacing 7ish liters would be? Both engine designs impress me in their own way. What a LS can do with less and what’s coyote or equivalent can adapt/optimize to across a wide range. Though a 8-9k rpm “small block” sounds pretty awesome.

[@BobbyOfEarth]

That would be Ford's 7.3L Godzilla engine...

[@user-cq6fk5go3s]

@@BobbyOfEarth Which is essentially a big LS with less aftermarket support. Would be fun to destroke one sleeve for the widest bore then run high rpm.

[@matthewwolff3729]

I'm glad to see one of these tests is more like an 🍎 to 🍎 comparison. It's usually just the coyote vs 6 or 6.2 ls with obvious results.

[@cwfella]

Always been more of a Ford guy but packaging and cost , the LS is the clear winner

[@rickybobby4017]

Im an Ls guy butt its not rocket science lots of Ls at the junkyard and you'd be lucky to find any coyotes at the junkyard butt at the end of the day 4 cams or gonna make more power than one just sayin..... both are great engines its all preference and how much $$$ you got to spend. 🤙🤙🤙