JUNKYARD LS (LOW $-BIG NOS) FULL RESULTS!

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

4 жыл бұрын

BIG BANG LS NITROUS TEST-FULL RESULTS. Will a stock bottom end take a 500-hp shot? We ran individual stages successfully on the SBE 5.3L, but check out what happened when we combined them to supply 500 hp to our 500-hp 5.3L LS. My fault it all went bad! Here is why.

Пікірлер: 500
@stevengiordano1490
@stevengiordano1490 4 жыл бұрын
Progressive nitrous controller, huge nitrous and fuel brought in at a more controllable manner with no more spikes!
@armedrepublic
@armedrepublic 4 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this, lol
@pontiac411
@pontiac411 4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@11ride4life
@11ride4life 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I always do when dealing with N20
@dadsgarage420
@dadsgarage420 4 жыл бұрын
I like it!
@lsmustangx9010
@lsmustangx9010 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who made this video is an idiot...
@jebbadkins
@jebbadkins 4 жыл бұрын
Omg you crack me up with the short clips of nitrous bottle and the backfire😂
@watsisbuttndo829
@watsisbuttndo829 4 жыл бұрын
Brule' must love seeing you walk through the door pushing a junk LS in front of you. Who cleaned that debacle up!.
@tp8382
@tp8382 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, Yep!
@unicornsteaks6769
@unicornsteaks6769 4 жыл бұрын
You can't buy this kind of advertising. Not that Westech would need any with all the Hot Rod projects they've worked on and dynoed.
@grumpysteelman
@grumpysteelman 3 жыл бұрын
Brûlée for President!
@imthecarguy
@imthecarguy 4 жыл бұрын
100% my favorite channel on youtube. You have the greatest job in the world, hands down!!!
@LandonRoy-cv9rt
@LandonRoy-cv9rt 4 жыл бұрын
When an engine starts screaming after a nirtous hits it puts a chill sown my spine...nothing compares to that sound
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like it
@grumpysteelman
@grumpysteelman 3 жыл бұрын
What about your buddy in the passenger seat that doesn’t know you put nitrous on your car? 😂
@s2upid
@s2upid 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the impeccable upload timing. Always catch these gems when I get home from working nights.
@jimmyj2563
@jimmyj2563 4 жыл бұрын
Stay in it ! Best tech content of any engine related channel. 4 am and I’m watching an ls torture session and I’m happy that I am!!
@rickybobby584.
@rickybobby584. 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest/best thing I enjoy about your channel is constant content, that’s super informative
@bkcobra0376
@bkcobra0376 4 жыл бұрын
Next time use propane on the fuel side of the nitrous LP to NO2 is a 1:1 ratio. You won’t have the lean spike and you won’t be stealing fuel from the injection or fuel rails. LP is also 115 octane and will not puddle inside the intake manifold It works awesome
@southernracing2468
@southernracing2468 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of using propane with nitrous, I’ve seen propane converted cars so I definitely could see it working out great
@DarrellWilkerson4.6
@DarrellWilkerson4.6 8 ай бұрын
​@@southernracing2468propane/lpg or gas(state of matter) cars are popular in aus, back on the early 2000s majority of Australian built cars ran both or only gas
@dragbikedemon
@dragbikedemon 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great format! Love it Richard!
@drakeolson2539
@drakeolson2539 4 жыл бұрын
That explosion was bad ass!!! I mean .....what a great learning experience on what a 14:1 fuel ratio does to a motor!!! Great job as always!!!!
@jeffmatas4060
@jeffmatas4060 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! I love it when stuff that is not mine blows up 😂! Thanks for sharing Richard, you are the man!
@b00sted_SS
@b00sted_SS 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the feel of the last couple videos you have put out ! They have your own flair to them along with all the great info you drop ! Need just one video to go “Trending” and this channel will blow up !
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
go make them trend
@tayegotjuice9781
@tayegotjuice9781 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!!! I've been waiting for this for 2 YEARSSS!!!!
@taylorwhiting5732
@taylorwhiting5732 4 жыл бұрын
I am happy to have come across your channel. I will pick up an LM7 soon enough for my 240sx and I have learned a lot from your channel on what this engine can do!
@kwik440
@kwik440 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE! ... You'er my HERO!! Thank you for working your ass off to educate us !!!
@squirellynutts
@squirellynutts 3 жыл бұрын
Like the saying goes nitrous doesnt kill engines people kill engines, great vid Richard love the vids and excellent work as you always give us even if you call it a fail its a win and a learning experience for us all. Thank you Sir for the trial by fire
@troymecey
@troymecey 4 жыл бұрын
Expensive learning curve,lol. Something to learn from, thanks Richard.
@michaelperez7472
@michaelperez7472 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for all your knowledge and experience. ..
@billysatas3980
@billysatas3980 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video thanks for all that you're doing. I also like that you lost the backdrop and started shooting in a more natural setting. Keep up the good work man! Look forward to seeing what's next. And if you can do a video of the btr no springs required cam on 4.8 vs 5.3 vs 6.0 it be cool to see the gains between the 3
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
😎live from the tree fort👍 I am digging this format
@stevepeters3032
@stevepeters3032 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the vids coming Richard. Great stuff.
@MrLs1racer
@MrLs1racer 4 жыл бұрын
You rock richard. Thanks for the follow up on this. I want to do something like this on a 6.0, but im afraid of the outcome.
@chucksgarage7165
@chucksgarage7165 4 жыл бұрын
Cam $400 HOLLEY HI-RAM INTAKE $600 2 Holley throttle bodies $800 Trick Flow® GenX® 220 Cylinder Heads for GM LS1 TFS-30610001 2 x $900 NOS Crosshair Plate Nitrous System $900 2nd NOS Plate Kit (without bottle) $400 Gasket set, nitrous tank filling, injectors, ECM...$2000??? Watching a junkyard motor blow up on KZbin.......PRICELESS!!
@middlesiderrider
@middlesiderrider 4 жыл бұрын
And the title says "Low $" ...
@camaromustangmods3327
@camaromustangmods3327 4 жыл бұрын
@@middlesiderrider That is low $$. Built a motor lately? It isnt dollar store cheap.
@cbr1thou
@cbr1thou 4 жыл бұрын
You aint gettin trick flows for 900 dolla, u crazy
@cbr1thou
@cbr1thou 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. 6 liter i do cuz there sittin on my engine now, 1250.00 each
@nellyfarnsworth7381
@nellyfarnsworth7381 4 жыл бұрын
Painful to watch.
@jonathonbelton2387
@jonathonbelton2387 4 жыл бұрын
Boom! It was spectacular! Can’t wait to see the next one.
@Broadpaw_Fox
@Broadpaw_Fox 4 жыл бұрын
I vote for a dry setup with the fuel being done properly by the primary injection system. This can also be done on any stock intake as well, and I think those would be nice to see (simply because low buck guys aren't gonna buy big intakes if they done have to). ;)
@matthewross3635
@matthewross3635 4 жыл бұрын
Rich, that pretzel of a dyno graph is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@LearningWithTitus
@LearningWithTitus 4 жыл бұрын
How do you not have more subscribers this is impressive
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere, some kid swapped his treehouse for a big bang 4.8. 😁👍
@juicedljgtr3917
@juicedljgtr3917 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, keep it up!
@wesleyspurlock537
@wesleyspurlock537 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Richard for doing all these cool videos
@Tampaboys
@Tampaboys 4 жыл бұрын
Great video doing big things with LS good to see
@Verticalpedalgarage
@Verticalpedalgarage 4 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!!!! Definitely made my day!!!!
@jamesgravel7755
@jamesgravel7755 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a single stinger 3 wet kit spraying the full 688hp on a progressive. That would be sick. I know I’m 2 years late to the party but. That would be the key. I watched this video when it dropped and was coming back for a refresher course. Richard is the man. Hope all is well sir
@lasagna187
@lasagna187 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday dude! Hope you get that L33
@mauricedavis2905
@mauricedavis2905 4 жыл бұрын
Man that was a badass little 5.3 😢 rip little guy your combo will live out there somewhere 😎
@thomasjohnson1142
@thomasjohnson1142 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t win them all brother!! Love to see a little more Gen 4 and drive by wire stuff. God Bless.
@andrewdenmark145
@andrewdenmark145 4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome and very informative video
@mrmatt2525able
@mrmatt2525able 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! Thanks
@holset82
@holset82 4 жыл бұрын
two of my favourite things in one video, engines and a golden retriever
@656hookemhorns
@656hookemhorns 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen more dry kits go boom than I've seen wet kits go boom.
@ThatNoFbody-ch9ky
@ThatNoFbody-ch9ky 2 жыл бұрын
Because people don’t upgrade their fuel systems
@ThatNofbody
@ThatNofbody 2 жыл бұрын
Because people are too stupid to upgrade their fuel systems people blow up engines not dry kits 😂
@shakenbake0019
@shakenbake0019 2 ай бұрын
Watching that intake blow apart is comedy every time...😂😂😂
@gixxer750axld
@gixxer750axld 4 жыл бұрын
awesome vid as usual. I want to do a small shot on my car, so i watch and learn as much as i can.
@douglasm3310
@douglasm3310 4 жыл бұрын
I’m loving all this content
@permafrost2064
@permafrost2064 3 жыл бұрын
OMG you were cracking me up with the repeated clip of you opening that nitrous bottle. :)
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ernestomiranda1122
@ernestomiranda1122 4 жыл бұрын
Always great content!!!...would be nice to see a direct port, dry, with a progressive controller
@manitoublack
@manitoublack 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ;) Dry with the ECU controlling all the fuel with a proper VE tune that can compensate in the event of fuel pressure drops.
@rexwarren3052
@rexwarren3052 3 жыл бұрын
Ya nitrous is safer to run with fuel
@johnvirgilwilliammccoy2332
@johnvirgilwilliammccoy2332 4 жыл бұрын
Richard, I believe not ramping in either kit. Caused a siphoning of air, hence the lean ratio for the application. Huge low pressure area was created when second stage was introduced.
@chevyrider0610
@chevyrider0610 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely do a wet shot for sure, get the most out of it that you can! Love seeing your videos and the insight you provide on things. Keep up the great work on the videos!
@jakewatson6854
@jakewatson6854 4 жыл бұрын
*nerding out* BOOM love it!
@mannieecker8602
@mannieecker8602 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that was spectacular...... Piston let go due to lack of strength and debris allowed the intake valve to hang open....this may have been more of a factor than the 14-1...
@mikemaccracken3112
@mikemaccracken3112 4 жыл бұрын
Witnessed a similar nitrous explosion on the dyno. It was cleanup on all aisles😂
@blockequals4
@blockequals4 4 жыл бұрын
The editing on this video is SUPERB.
@rickyhunter3514
@rickyhunter3514 4 жыл бұрын
Direct port wet and a 250 on the plate would be interesting to see. Also would absolutely love to see a old school 4 bolt 355 or 383 with forged internals and see how the stock block would react. I honestly believe a lot of people discredit the old sbc when there tuneups are to Blame. 👍🏼.
@shawnlanham8098
@shawnlanham8098 4 жыл бұрын
The tree house is the best backdrop. Way better than the screen. Thanks for all the knowledge!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
tree fort FTW
@47-TH4TS-R4VN
@47-TH4TS-R4VN 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed.. love the channel.. awesome content! Thanks for sharing
@charlesrives9092
@charlesrives9092 4 жыл бұрын
In getting ready to run nitrous on my engine, I was warned about A/F on multiple stages. My guess is that the fuel on the second stage was slower to the jet than the nitrous was and it went lean. Also could have been a dip in fuel pressure. I have also heard not to run plates on a tunnel ram- all that nitrous and fuel in the intake make for a nice bomb (as witnessed in the video). My thoughts would be a single, large hit on a fogger with a progressive controller (as others have said). Do it wet, not dry as you can get tune info from the manufacturer and not have to guess with the pulse width on the EFI.
@ChoatesCoatsandCustoms
@ChoatesCoatsandCustoms 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Iv been wondering the results for seems like a year or 2.
@thehappytexan
@thehappytexan 4 жыл бұрын
Would definitely run a wet fogger setup for precise cylinder to cylinder afr control and use a controller to ramp in the the hit so you have less stress/more time to monitor afr’s.
@BadLuckGarage
@BadLuckGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I’m pretty much about to do this same thing with the Chaos Theory Camaro. 😂
@scottbankston3377
@scottbankston3377 4 жыл бұрын
Loving it
@motorcityracing7319
@motorcityracing7319 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see some of these build I am running that same cam in lq4 going 862 heads using a stinger 2 plate
@TheNumbers400
@TheNumbers400 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how far we can go on a stock bottom end with properly controlled dry system. How to use bigger injectors and such.
@michaelmarshall3729
@michaelmarshall3729 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of nitrous and FI love, Would love to see some max effort high compression NA tests.
@mikerichmond6199
@mikerichmond6199 4 жыл бұрын
Progressive controller and a designated fuel system just for the nitrous system should help. Losing fuel pressure when the second stage hits probably caused the lean condition. I also like to use a fuel pressure safety switch that will not allow nitrous solenoids to fire if min fuel delivery is not present. Cool videos keep em coming love this channel.
@richardwimmer6846
@richardwimmer6846 4 жыл бұрын
Great work,, even my ford friends get heavy into your Videos,,,,
@smithjohn3080
@smithjohn3080 2 жыл бұрын
That initial power spike on the stg 1 chart had me giddy and laughing like a little kid for the first time in years...
@Piotr94L
@Piotr94L 4 жыл бұрын
Richard what about wet foggers + different types of fuel - leaded race gas, e85, methane in foggers, but engine has to run on 93 pump gas.
@pr0n5tar
@pr0n5tar 4 жыл бұрын
id like to see a dry progressive setup with the ecu doing the fuelling
@trentcrompton9527
@trentcrompton9527 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep doing what you’re doing 👍
@MWR-lg9qp
@MWR-lg9qp 3 жыл бұрын
The most awesome thing on the internet today.
@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a thing for N/A Nitromethane V8 engines , like those ran in Top Alcohol class, but it’s hard to find dyno numbers. I imagine because there are few of these engines and they choke out the dyno cell with poison fumes.
@txvillageidiot
@txvillageidiot 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think the fuel leaking out of the rail on the left side had anything to do with the lean condition? It's dripping in all the setups.
@qunicetoole7497
@qunicetoole7497 4 жыл бұрын
Lmoa😄😄 @ the nos face freeze frame bottle squirts in between fuel injector changes...but Yo!! that junkyard 5.3 Ls demo was Liiitt! 🔥 no pun intended! totally baaddass!! impressive!! Love the content..got Ls fever.. I'm learning a lot...stage 1....500+ hp stage 2 885 hp & then The Big Bang on stage 3 LS engine...damn nere busting 1000 hp, the engine mods u can do / gain with that 5.3 ls is something else! swapping one now in a 95 OBS 5-sp. Nv3500 trans that had the snoozer 4.3 V6 can't wait to see the results from the swap✌👍👍
@jasonbrown779
@jasonbrown779 4 жыл бұрын
As a proud owner of a nitrous feed SBE 5.3, I can't wait to see the 2nd part. Keep em coming, enjoying every video...
@jasonbrown779
@jasonbrown779 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how much more N/A hp would you get if you bump the compression up with some dome piston on that 5.3?
@erikbondesson2615
@erikbondesson2615 4 жыл бұрын
Progressive nitrous controller and a wet direct port system will make it go for the 1000hp. a dedicated fuel system for the fuel solenoids with higher pressure, like 43,5 psi will be much more stabilize with smaller pressure drop when it activates
@DaOnE51T
@DaOnE51T 4 жыл бұрын
Multiple kits are very tricky. After running each kit separately. I would of started small with both kits on and worked your way up. That way you could of caught the lean issue before it blew the motor. Next test, run it with a single 4150 carb, Super Vic intake, individual fogger/cylinder with a progressive nitrous controller. One kit one carb = KISS theory
@kbracing96
@kbracing96 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would run it dry, direct port with holley close loop WB doing the fueling and a built in AFR safety that a lean spike longer than .5 second would kill the nitrous. And bring both stages in progressively with a Holley solid state relay.
@hpjunkie73
@hpjunkie73 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely spray wet , especially through a fogger. And add a burst panel to that intake !
@elainestamper3873
@elainestamper3873 2 жыл бұрын
That was cool!
@Tommy-B.
@Tommy-B. 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see how you set up injectors on a dry fogger kit.
@SP33D3M0N03
@SP33D3M0N03 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the high ram plate system used!
@Darkhalfcustoms
@Darkhalfcustoms 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you already know this But, I was told by an old drag car engine builder "You should remove all sharp edges in the chamber and piston when you playing with NOS." He also recommended a piston button be installed but, I didn't know what those were.
@thedude7726
@thedude7726 4 жыл бұрын
I subbed after your last video!!!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
did you bring a friend? its 2 for one day
@SkeenDogger
@SkeenDogger 4 жыл бұрын
I'd try a wet fogger system. That's what most of us would run so I think it would be more beneficial to do a video on that. Thank you and good luck!
@escuelaviejafarms
@escuelaviejafarms 4 жыл бұрын
Love the dogs!
@gsxrred1000
@gsxrred1000 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. That’s all I have to say! 👍
@raymondleathers5921
@raymondleathers5921 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have to agree. You need a nitrous controller so you can ramp it in easier. I would also make sure you have enough pump on those systems. Physically bench test it. Don’t just go based on it’s flow specs. Stick both plates in a bucket and flow them as a complete system at the same time and measure the volume of fuel. Even if you change over to fogger I’d still do this and try and pin point where the problem was.
@jord9308
@jord9308 4 жыл бұрын
How about using those O2 sensors with a nitrous controller to shut off NO when it goes lean? Enjoyed the explosion!
@tomwhite9034
@tomwhite9034 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha it looked so awesome but wouldn't wish it on any1 lol. Thank you Richard
@MississippiDan1
@MississippiDan1 4 жыл бұрын
I figured this would happen... I set up a two stage kit on a 454 and had success but one stage was through foggers and the other through a big shot plate. The plates don't seem to flow enough fuel at high hp numbers as you need an exponential amount of fuel for that much nitrous. I have a plate im going to drill out and try e85... That's my remedy... Put the kits on e85 with 40% more fuel and start rich.
@scottwho7976
@scottwho7976 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and educational content, I just wish I also had your budget! All the aftermarket parts destroyed aren't cheap for those of us without sponsorship etc lol
@paulskartslifan4206
@paulskartslifan4206 4 жыл бұрын
Wet system , don’t care on delivery method but definitely need a 1-2 second ramp up controller , closer to the 2 seconds with bigger than 250 shot. The spike was hitting 200 hp above max Hp as a spike .. that shock is the killer ... don’t know Exactly what happened with the lean out you experienced .. could have been a few things...I think the rule is 2° of timing per 100 shot .. I would have started safe at 10° instead of 8° ... love the videos .. keep me coming ... I bet the next engine will survive the 1000 !!!!! Your a pretty smart dude !!
@paulmitchell8005
@paulmitchell8005 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you carry on from the same combo, I like the simplicity of the sandwich plate rather then the direct port injection which wouldn't be something I couldn't see myself doing
@joepatenaude3957
@joepatenaude3957 4 жыл бұрын
Direct port Fogger setup wet system and individual o2 tune every cylinder
@timothy7754
@timothy7754 4 жыл бұрын
I think you needed to up the fuel right before the second kit. Like you did for the first kit. I would go wet system. I know it more costly. I've seen more lean conditions on the dry set up.
@tomrados7512
@tomrados7512 4 жыл бұрын
How about a nitrous outlet puck system test. Recently bought a Edelbrock Victor jr. with it installed in it and curiously wondering how it will work compared to the other setups. Thanks
@philipdavison459
@philipdavison459 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure its been mentioned already but could increasing the fuel pressure for the fuel jets in the plate help the fuel keep up with the nitrous as the button is hit? After all nitrous is injected at a much higher pressure then the fuel
@jeffbmoss2
@jeffbmoss2 4 жыл бұрын
Some data logs: Is fuel pressure stable? Progressive controller to ramp it in w/o the giant rod crushing spike. Some controllers have a lean safety circuit. Map Q of NO2 against torque to keep below a target level. I THINK a dry individual runner foggers would be fine with control of port injectors.
@The68cam1
@The68cam1 4 жыл бұрын
The best way would be dry fogger progressive . Can be fueled correctly by Holley and injectors are more accurate ! But if it goes lean pop ! LoL . You can definitely get there with a wet plate just takes alot of jet changing progressively getting bigger keeping up with the afr . Never use nitrous when lean @@ !! LOL !! Thanks for the great video of what happens when nitrous goes lean . It could have done it on either kit they both had a lean spike that needed attention first before progressing ! Great video !!
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