WHAT SHOULD YOU CHECK ON YOUR CHEAP, JUNKYARD TURBO MOTOR BEFORE YOU RUN! DIY, HOW TO, DYNO TEST!

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

2 жыл бұрын

1984 JUNKYARD DODGE 2.2L TURBO DISASSEMBLY-WHAT DID WE FIND? WHO THE HECKS TRIES TO FIX A BROKEN HEAD BOLT WITH SILICONE? PLUS BLOOPERS! WATCH RICHARD MESS UP, AGAIN AND GAIN! RATHER THAN JUST TRY TO RUN THE 2.2L DODGE TURBO MOTOR AFTER THE START-UP VIDEO, I DECIDED TO TAKE IT APART! I DODGE A BULLET (OR TWO) ON THIS ONE, AS THERE WERE A NUMBER PROBLEMS THAT WOULD HAVE SPELLED DISASTER ON THE DYNO.

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@adampatterson707
@adampatterson707 2 жыл бұрын
I loved working with these engines back in the day with my gear head buddies. We had a couple of GLH Omni cars, a Daytona and some cars with this engine. One of the Omni cars ended up with the super charger kit on it. We had a blast with all those little Mopar cars back then. Very good memories. Thanks Richard. God bless sir.
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 2 жыл бұрын
You dont need those head bolts anyways. The tension from the timing belt is enough to keep the head sealed
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning the water passages and blowing out the rusty scales on my 1996 Chrysler 420A engine while refreshing the head made a night and day difference. It completely eliminated pinging under light load and no matter how hot is outside it won't overheat under any circumstances.
@invujerry
@invujerry 2 жыл бұрын
I helped my friend build a TBI bottom end he put into his turbo swapped 5 speed van years ago. He used old stock worn out rings that I think the smallest gap was .034”. The van is running on e85, stock electronics, and an unregulated mitsu turbo that’s making around 18psi. The higher compression TBI pistons really help it spool up a hair faster, it’s a riot to drive. Many people say these rods bend and break at 225wtq, but they’ll actually make much more power than that. I’m excited to see what you do with this. The ring gap will certainly help out with the high boost stuff.
@thman6453
@thman6453 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard since you're tearing appart both the 2.2 and the 2.5 you should see if you can put the crank and rods from the 2.5 and see if it works in the 2.2
@thenofilterchannel8247
@thenofilterchannel8247 2 жыл бұрын
You can, but you have to use the front seal from the 2.5
@Turbo_Q
@Turbo_Q 2 жыл бұрын
Common block and non common block motor. No way Jose
@guyforlogos
@guyforlogos 2 жыл бұрын
This should be a fun series, I had an Omni GLH way back, it was a blast to drive. Those engines do good things with a little extra boost :)
@tomcelica
@tomcelica 2 жыл бұрын
That ring gap machine is awesome! What a great idea
@unclesquirrel6951
@unclesquirrel6951 2 жыл бұрын
Robot holdener his battery never runs low 😎
@smokenchoken1736
@smokenchoken1736 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
How cool would it be if the guy glued the bolt in was watching haha
@ryangregory3553
@ryangregory3553 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to using your videos on my own 2.2 turbo in the future
@timothycooney986
@timothycooney986 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video - I've been waiting anxiously as I've a Chrysler 2.5 turbo that needs rebuilt along with performance enhancing. Richard please include sources for all materials as you continue along with rebuild.
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
pull it apart,look what it needs....video is cool but doesn't help much in your case...
@privatedata665
@privatedata665 2 жыл бұрын
Broken bolt , no worries on these things . Our local Dodge boys would change gaskets on these engines without taking the head out of the car . They only unhooked what they had to to lift the head 3/4 of an inch , slide out the old gasket and slide in the new gasket with no cleaning of any surfaces with damn few comebacks . Broken bolts were left in the block and the bolt head was siliconed in place to keep the oil out of the hole .
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
we called that a slider lol
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
we went one step further zip tied the cam belt to the top pulley zip out the cam bolt just enough slack in the timing belt to slide the gear off lil strap around the cam engine hoist pick head up 2 inches they usually blown right behind metal cylinder ring had room for a bit of scuffing that way
@privatedata665
@privatedata665 2 жыл бұрын
@@53slapnuts The one dodge boy had a makeshift deal he mounted to the hood somehow and it had old hood springs he would attach to the head he was "pulling" so when he zipped the head bolts out the springs would pull the head up and hold it there . They had 55 gallon drums full of old head bolts to these engines . If I recall correctly their record was 47 minutes from opening the hood to test driving it finished .
@justRD1
@justRD1 2 жыл бұрын
Once you have a bellhousing adapter for that 2.2/2.5 setup, you’ll have one that fits the srt4 engine since they have almost the exact same pattern!
@garymorel1882
@garymorel1882 2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited about you Dino in this motor I bet it would make a great mud boat motor And never in my lifetime have I had a broken bolt come out that easy apparently you’re blessed 👍
@thman6453
@thman6453 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing lol
@hom240
@hom240 2 жыл бұрын
I love those Total Seal Rings. I have a set in my stroked 351CJ (4.17 stroke, 426cu.in). Meant for a super charger I cc'd each bore, combustion chamber and head gasket to a dead even 8.70 to 1 compression ratio. With the spark plugs out you can turn it over by hand fairly easy. With the plugs in you can not turn it over with a breaker bar without threating to break the crank bolt. I have the top ring gap set for the maximum possible power out put. The ring seal is amazing. I have a TRW high torque (400 inch pound) starter that barely starts the motor.
@srirachasauce8430
@srirachasauce8430 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard! Excellent decision to tear into it and build it as optimal as possible. I believe the perceived weaknesses are due to detonation damage, and/or long term block warping. Your holley EFI setup should take care of the former. Obtaining and installing a forged steel crank down the road will at least help solve the latter. Either way, I feel confident you'll do us turbododge boys proud. Thanks again for showing me the crank sensor mod. Another trick up my sleeve for my 89 turbo 2 LeBaron 😎 Best of luck moving forward!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
thnx-no need for forged crank
@brianjacobsen5762
@brianjacobsen5762 2 жыл бұрын
That's that stop leak stuff clogging up the water passage's see why silly cone on the head bolt. 😀
@artdombroskie7573
@artdombroskie7573 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great work! I'd like to see a modern Toyota or Nissan V8 up on the dyno one day!
@edwardseaton4492
@edwardseaton4492 2 жыл бұрын
stoked for this series
@74beeper97
@74beeper97 2 жыл бұрын
This one has got my excited..... Ma Mopar already knew back then that the top ring should have a bigger end gap than the bottom...... I try telling the old skool engine builders this and they think i'm nuts!
@8power857
@8power857 2 жыл бұрын
That actually depends on the temp the top ring runs at. At running loaded temps you want the top ring at less gap than the second. Sometimes this means the top ring has more cold gap, sometimes it means the same cold gap.
@74beeper97
@74beeper97 2 жыл бұрын
@@8power857 No you don't want the top ring with less. You want the top ring with more so you don't get ring flutter. Look it up
@8power857
@8power857 2 жыл бұрын
@@74beeper97 read my post, im talking about 'at running loaded temp' when the top ring is far hotter than the 2nd ring so sees more expansion and the gap closes up. This puts the 'running loaded' top ring gap LESS than the 2nd ring gap which reduces flutter and increases rop ring seal by allowing a larger pressure differential between the chamber and the space between top and 2nd ring. Ideally the top ring would 'almost' close its gap up when at its hottest temp which would give the best chamber seal and the best hp BUT for safety we allow the top ring to still have a little gap at its max normal temp.
@74beeper97
@74beeper97 2 жыл бұрын
The gap is larger to prevent ring flutter. If the top ring end gap is only larger when cold then you don't have enough top ring end gap
@8power857
@8power857 2 жыл бұрын
@@74beeper97 haha ok then🤦‍♂️
@boosted74m2
@boosted74m2 2 жыл бұрын
My son has a pile these 2.2/2.5 turbo dodge cars .
@robertbeckler5058
@robertbeckler5058 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the 2003 quad. It's got a quarter million on it and the belt is original so it's waiting for me to get my carage built. Butt this should be a fun video.
@dennisclanton5342
@dennisclanton5342 2 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories
@thatcarguy2778
@thatcarguy2778 2 жыл бұрын
Richard, flip the block over and use a pic or screwdriver on the buildup and it will fall out instead of going back in the block.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
I do that-but it all needs to be cleaned out
@martysheets6882
@martysheets6882 2 жыл бұрын
Rich you're lot's of fun to watch, you guys would put a turbo on a blender, if you thought it would spin faster.
@rwdcolt
@rwdcolt Жыл бұрын
Please explain more on the use of the LS1 crank sensor for the Holley EFI
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
DRILLED HOLE IN DISTRIBUTOR-MOUNTED LS SENSOR ON BRACKET AND BOLTED IT TO THE BOTTOM OF DISTRIBUTOR TO ALLOW THE SENSOR TO READ THE 4-PULSE TRIGGER IN THE DISTRIBUTOR.
@TurbineResearch
@TurbineResearch 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see the biggest turbo you own bolted up to that little guy
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. Professional machinist here. Just want to say if you're able to fit a .026 feeler gauge between whatever, it will always measure bigger than .026
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
it might measure 0.0265/0.027" if it has any resistance.. a .001 feeler guage wont fit into a 0.001 gap,its basic logic
@neon42011
@neon42011 2 жыл бұрын
I can wait no more !!
@badapplez8455
@badapplez8455 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly suggestion, you should make a playlist for your 2.2/2.5 videos
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@badapplez8455
@badapplez8455 2 жыл бұрын
Has the 2.2 been finished?
@badapplez8455
@badapplez8455 2 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching all morning, great content
@johnhamblin12201
@johnhamblin12201 2 жыл бұрын
Looks exactly like the cam tunnel and top of the head on a 2.3 ford minus the removable cam caps. Honestly the whole engine looks like a copy of the 2.3
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
welcome to the automotive world,everybody borrows everything from everyone else.some do it better than the original
@OneSmokinJoe
@OneSmokinJoe 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see how much more than 146 bhp Richard can eek from this powerplant!
@ethanl8914
@ethanl8914 2 жыл бұрын
Damn lot of stop leak in water jackets
@oldfatandtired6406
@oldfatandtired6406 2 жыл бұрын
I have been playing with engines and cars for fifty years, have always been told that head studs are the way to go on high output or heavily modified motors. Forgive my ignorance, but why are studs better than bolts?
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
if you have been doing it for 50 years ,i think you would already know wouldn't you? studs create more downward clamping force on the head without stressing the threaded portion of the block.this is very important in BOOSTED applications as the higher the boost,the more the head wants to lift off the block..studs help reduce this problem but don't necessarily eliminate it completely .
@tomcelica
@tomcelica 2 жыл бұрын
With the way the amera barra went I thought for sure that head bolt was broken off and stuck below the deck of the block.
@Wickhaven1
@Wickhaven1 2 жыл бұрын
Should you have gaped the rings after the ball hone? Also, on the 2nd ring is the gap important for boost? Or just SOP?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
THE BALL HONE WON'T CHANGE GAP MUCH AND BOTH RINGS NEED GAP
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
ball hone is more surface finish correction than material removal....
@jumpsuite
@jumpsuite 2 жыл бұрын
that turbo is oil fedd change the oil pressure spring to a hire pressure spring
@dandewar8403
@dandewar8403 2 жыл бұрын
What’s with one cylinder head chamber being brown?
@406nova6
@406nova6 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out the motor I have for sale 2.2 with a NEW OLD STOCK direct connection full ported head never run it could be for sale
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
HOW MUCH
@406nova6
@406nova6 2 жыл бұрын
Whole engine with turbo ,or just head. was a package from dodge . Head only with DC hp cam 2000. Block 1993 common block Wesco turbo forged pistons Mopar forged rods Block torque plated Turbonetics polished turbo 3in cast elbow out of turbo + 20 injectors Adjustable cam timing sproc 2 pc intake The head of course 4th cyl mod 3.3 L throttle body Adj Grand national fuel pressure reg Cosmetic multi head gasket Arp head studs Polly eng mounts front and side 4000.00 complete engine from pan to shelby valve cover I'm shure I'm forgetting stuff Or buy the whole 86 dodge datona turbo z with t tops with engine built auto trans and a SHIT TON OF EXTRAS .... 5000. 00 GOOD SOLID CAR 0 RUST . I'm in Vegas car was sold new here.
@djverhulst
@djverhulst 2 жыл бұрын
I never understand why the don't use a cross flow design on those heads, much better flowing , and that old design of the head chamber shape , that head look not that great on the 1 cilinder,, the water channel chew the wall to the chamber
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
if it has to turn to tight i see something failing in the accessory shaft it pulls the dist and oil pump i think !!!
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
they pretty tough
@marklucas3140
@marklucas3140 2 жыл бұрын
Passenger rear corner corrosion creep. It gets the head gasket every time! Your head may be the worst I've seen for galvanic reaction eating that back corner passage away in the head. Barely enough material to clamp the fire ring at all. Is this the head that David has?
@bryanlanni2145
@bryanlanni2145 2 жыл бұрын
Richard I love your videos and as a long-time subscriber do you have anything on the Ford 3.0 V6
@bryanlanni2145
@bryanlanni2145 2 жыл бұрын
I want to build it for my kid i have the 302 but its to crazy for him I just wanted to do a few up grades on the 3.0 2wd ranger for him
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
no sir
@bryanlanni2145
@bryanlanni2145 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 you need to do one for the "other guys"
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
get a felpro head gasket the metal part around the cylinders is wider un less you use something better
@alantrimble2881
@alantrimble2881 2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Holdener said in the live feed that he was going to try to get an MLS head gasket. I believe that Cometic makes one for the 2.2 and 2.5 engines.
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@alantrimble2881 been too long for me worked at dodge 1987-1992
@alantrimble2881
@alantrimble2881 2 жыл бұрын
@@53slapnuts I'm so sorry. Those K Cars were such turds. I hated to see them roll into the shop, and there was always at least ONE in the shop!
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
im guessing 400hp gapping the rings a .026 im thinking he going over 7psi boost
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@alantrimble2881 no need to be sorry lmao biggest turd around but very easy to work on
@DBSSTEELER
@DBSSTEELER 2 жыл бұрын
Well now you know why the car was in the wrecking yard.
@TheProchargedmopar
@TheProchargedmopar 2 жыл бұрын
👍💪
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
they crack between the valve seats sometimes
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
no leak issue can let the seat loose enough to come out
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 2 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant
@53slapnuts
@53slapnuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube the seat falls out holds valve open cam follower falls out dont hurt anything but they sure run terrible on 3 lol
@Joshie2256
@Joshie2256 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWjYfoOKhJdkq80 it appears the cooling passage rotted into the combustion chamber. Hopefully it's just an illusion, but I don't think so.
@joehudson3072
@joehudson3072 2 жыл бұрын
Are you eventually going to try to find a car for it
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
richard does DYNO testing,in case you didnt notice
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
watch the omni glh 2.5 video
@rickgopatriots2360
@rickgopatriots2360 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Richard will do a good freshen up and with his expertise make more power than those motors ever produced from the factory. But where do you go from there? Those engines never went into anything cool or fun to drive. They were in mini vans and boring grandma grocery getters.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
NEVER SAY AN UNKIND WORD ABOUT AN OMNI GLH TURBO
@unclesquirrel6951
@unclesquirrel6951 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels
@waynereid9881
@waynereid9881 2 жыл бұрын
Was probably chipmunks this time I hear they have a thing with head bolts
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