JUNKYARD TURBO 5.3L vs FORD 5.4L 4V (CHEVY vs FORD)

[@emoore254x]

I really appreciate that you're truly just an engine guy and could care less about the badge on it. Thanks for showing these comparisons!

[@armstrong4196]

One can rarely see that nowadays.

[@erichaley4485]

He's mainly a Ford fan

[@midnight347]

@@erichaley4485 he's not "mainly a ford man" he used to do testing for muscle mustangs mag back in the day but the last few years he's been all about the ls and tests those way more. He also boasts alot about the ls for good reason. He is def not mainly a ford guy he respects all engines.

[@marklowe7431]

The true pros don't care about brands.

[@nameless4031]

I think you appreciate that Richard coul not care less about the engine brand. Think about it.

[@stevenodell9458]

I drive a semi for 12-16 hours a day. I wish you had an audio book or taught a class. The way you lay it out makes it understandable, simple, EXCITING, and all around fun. You are in your own class sir! You need to have your own show on TV too! I have binged watched/listened to all your videos in the last two days. Needless to say. Like boost, I need more! 😅 Keep up your amazing work, we need more fact checkers like you!

[@richardholdener1727]

thnx-ill keep taking

[@ikecostner1]

I prop it up on my dash and listen and occasional glance while driving all the time.

[@alanhardman2447]

Both of these engines are VERY impressive.

[@martinez1701a]

I built and swapped an LM7 in my 99 trans am when my LS1 got hungry and ate a few bearings, cam ported 862 heads and flat top pistons for a LR4 and I have to say it kicks ass. Now just need to find a good tuner to get the most out of my setup.

[@Utubegofukurself]

@@martinez1701a I just made some eggs over easy.

[@benjaminmenken5693]

For sure

[@Speakertweaker-tp4em]

@@martinez1701astock ecu?

[@calvinevans8305]

I'm a Chevy guy, but that Navigator engine has so much potential. My buddy popped the hood on his Navi and I was blown away. That engine should have been in every Mustang.

[@brianstough5286]

If it had been (in every mustang) the hood would need to be another 3 inches higher... How would you see where you're going?

[@indyrock8148]

@@brianstough5286 they did put the 5.4 in some mustangs. Even with a blower on top.

[@MikeSmith-ey7ku]

It’s the same as the 4.6 cobra motor just more cubes

[@mpboi21]

Until you snap one of thee extremely long spark plugs

[@MikeSmith-ey7ku]

@@mpboi21 never snapped a plug in my life and I’ve had the plugs out of my coyote half a dozen times at least for my supercharger

[@myfavoritemartian1]

Water to air cooler, bigger turbos, measured HP at a higher rev...gotta keep those Chevy guys happy!

[@midnight347]

Same size turbos and cooling setup on both and actually revving the mod motor higher like 7k at least and this is a totally different conversation. The ls also had aftermarket heads vs stock ported heads for the 4v.

[@The-fs5wn]

⁠@@midnight347bruh that’s not true. He ran 76 mm turbos on the Chevy and 67 on the Ford. With the mods he made, he also should have been pushing 8k RPM and way more power on the Ford. A stock 2003 Mach 1 can push 7k. And again, water to air cooler makes a difference as well.

[@brianbuckner1459]

Knowing the compression of both engines and having the timing being the same would of been a big help, I kinda feel this video favors the LS a little more.

[@Boostedlifestyle]

I know a guy who has an 8 turbo LS set up that would be interesting on the engine dyno ;)

[@TurboNFRStwoK]

I watch your content as well! Love the 8 turbo LS mustang build!

[@madmod]

Some people say them little f#ckers are still spinning

[@timothybayliss6680]

That guy has a funny accent, it's like he's from a different country or something. 😆

[@teal_2v338]

Hahaha yea

[@teal_2v338]

@@timothybayliss6680 where is he from? Canada?

[@Dfour]

By only spinning the 5.4 to 6200 you didn't do it any justice. 7500+ is the sweet spot for turbo mod motors. Another great video non the less. 👍🏼

[@tomcelica]

That would depend on which camshafts you were using.

[@Dfour]

@@tomcelica stage 2 intake and 3 exhaust cams they said from SHM. easily turn over 7500

[@tomcelica]

@@Dfour I misread that. Thank you for setting me straight brother! ❤️

[@Dfour]

@@tomcelica 🤙🏼

[@midnight347]

That is gonna make a BIG difference on power too...but this PROVES ls is superior.....lol just mocking "those" guys plenty in the comments...

[@jamesgeorge6551]

Different strokes for different folks. I was a pretty diehard Ford guy for a long time. But the fact of the matter is the big three all make engines that can belt out stupid power. And the rest of the world does too. There has never been a better time to be a hot rod enthusiast, there is SO much to choose from. Keep up the awesome content, Mr Holdener.

[@pinpointautodiagnosticsene9655]

With how much money is the difference

[@ninjaface2342]

Yeah if you would have told someone 20yrs ago that 1000hp would be easy to make they would have laughed at you. I had a 70 chevelle back in 1999 with a 383 that made about 500hp and back then if you made 5 or 600hp you had something... That's nothing these days. Great time to be alive.

[@CoyoteFTW]

Fords have most potential though

[@midwestChopper]

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[@bravofoxable]

Great video. Those 4v heads flow very well to start with, so that helps. But it is incredible what a turbo can achieve. Well done 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@davegengenbach5998]

I enjoy your videos, the flow, the information and the variations and pictures that you show educate and keep me interested. Please continue these, any more parts in the future? Would love to see a LA small block on turbos, thanks

[@jesusofamerica]

I truly appreciate that he held up the video and made a point to point out dohc 4v ford tech can make much better numbers if put together differently and also that they've been banned from certain events like the demon crate/demon

[@tangstanggt5006]

This is a very apples to oranges comparison. What were the fuels run with each engine? What were the compression ratios? The turbo sizes are wildly different. Twin 67s to twin 76s??? I'm by no means a fanboy. I currently own a twin turbo corvette. Would just like to see a real life comparison.

[@platinumlawnservice]

I love this channel. I do want to see more talking and full screen shots of you or something else other than the graphs. I think this is just as good as motor trend shows

[@smilespergallon1989]

I’m still waiting for the ford 300 strait 6

[@OGbqze]

I'm sure he has plans, this guy is awesome.

[@traxxasrcfun]

Same

[@richardholdener1727]

yes

[@mitchellhahn5342]

Need to do a dodge slant six and a chevy stove bolt 292 as well

[@mitchellhahn5342]

@@richardholdener1727 can't wait

[@joebommarito8374]

rich i love how honest and far you are with these comparisons

[@joefwarren]

Love it! Let see a Triton V10 turbo!

[@klx_gaming4962]

I read this like "that will be absolutely garbage" then I thought about it, yeah. That would be a cool video.

[@senditc20]

Magnum v10 would be even cooler

[@01Snorky]

Ship pulling torque.

[@joefwarren]

@@klx_gaming4962 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWirapenaauHo68 5.6 psi = 430hp/750ft/lbs at the wheels. Tuned @6 psi 550hp and 810ft/lbs at the wheels From a stock 2v v10. Imagine ported heads and cams and 10 psi? Now add at least 15% to those numbers for hp at the crank, now you're at 630hp and 930ft/lbs. I owned a 2000 V10 2wd excursion and I added an aftermarket ypipe and banks tuner and intake and 4.30 gears and it had no business being as fast as it was all for a total of 7500$, including the cost of the truck. Then I screwed up and decided I had to have a 6.0 diesel lol.

[@joefwarren]

@@klx_gaming4962 n/a V10 in a Fox vs BMW V10 dyno kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKfIdmWEpsySg6M

[@andyg806]

I am genuinely blown away by the power figures. Also would be interesting to see the longevity of such power increase. Fantastic comparison.

[@besearchingforwisdom6267]

You tried to cover up for the four valve, maybe there's some redemption in it somewhere, but that 2 valve had some really interesting numbers either way. And, while you didn't reveal the cost per horsepower, I'd imagine that would also be impressive. As always, you're sitting down to show us some good stuff. Thanks, I can't wait for the next comparison

[@BC08]

Not covering up, just relaying reality

[@Dayandcounting]

Not apples to apples comparison by any stretch here. When comes to HP and Torque 4 valve is better than 2 valve head. The Mercury Racing SB4 is basically a LS7 with DOHC heads makes 750hp@7500 rpm and 545lb-ft@6500. Ferrari squeezed nearly 600hp from the 458's 4.5L V8, that was all motor as installed emissions legal on pump gas.

[@anthonypeterkin]

2v guys will downplay the 4v annnychance they get

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@Dayandcounting then why did the 5.4 lose?

[@Dayandcounting]

@@HioSSilver1999 $$$, they are different builds. In general 4 valve engine give you 18% more power and about 20% more torque all else being equal. Just look at the number the new LT6 is putting up. It's making over 400lb-ft from 3500-8500 with a peak of 460@6300. Not bad for 3.150" stroke. Makes over 500hp from 5800 -8500 with a peak of 670@8300. That all from a production engine on pump gas that's only 333ci all engine.

[@c-moneycantrell]

Richard is THE MAN!!!! Thank you for the informational videos I remember messaging you asking if you ever do ford engines and bam 💥 tons of videos on 4.6 and 5.4 , bad ass !!!

[@gtorjoepontiac5136]

#1 DYNO GUY AND LS EXPERT ON THE NET . PERIOD.

[@nowwaynamenit]

Custom Performance Racing Engines got some good stuff too

[@adamguinn8305]

Not even a very close comparison. 67MM on the 5.4 and 76mm on the 5.3. I wonder if 15% more turbo helped the ls

[@elisherman7791]

@@adamguinn8305 you’re kidding right. PSI is PSI.

[@adamguinn8305]

@@elisherman7791 then why do semis have 80+mm turbo when light trucks have 60+mm a 60mm will spool 40psi and so will an 80mm the difference is you heat the air way more with the smaller turbo bc it has to spin faster. Psi doesnt equal psi this video is a trash comparison.

[@xaiyab6892]

Nice video. Thanks for demonstrating that pretty much ANY engine can make power regardless of displacement or brand.

[@JohnSmith-xx1lx]

It doesn't demonstrate that at all, it simply demonstrates these two engines specifically.

[@1jzae86]

I would like to see the difference between a coyote and a 5.4 4v

[@BrownBomber92181]

The 4v 5.4 was making Coyote like power 20 years ago in the Cobra R, & thats with no variable valve timing. Also in the Australian applications they were making over 400 hp

[@BlackTownie999]

@@BrownBomber92181 And the Aussie BOSS intake fits under the hood without cutting it...Unlike the stock American truck intakes. Hard part is finding one for sale and importing it.

[@177SCmaro]

@@BrownBomber92181 The 5.4 is a bigger engine. Right now the "normal" Coyote makes like 460hp and the Voodoo is over 500 NA. I'm not aware of any 5.4 doing that without boost.

[@BrownBomber92181]

@@177SCmaro the 5.4 has a much smaller sized bore, but longer stroke than the Coyote. But the Coyote has variable valve timing as well

[@177SCmaro]

@@BrownBomber92181 And? Also, the coyote bore is about 2mm larger then the 5.4. I wouldn't call that "much smaller".

[@drudgenemo7030]

The LS did it on stock internals. But the big thing if you are doing a v8 swap into something(boat, miata, whatever) you also got to look at packaging. Those overhead cams take up room(they breathe better at high rpm). That said, build what you like and have fun.

[@chadkent1241]

Midnight Performance has gone 7.7s factory sealed coyotes. Not an LS alive has gone there.

[@RustyChevy]

Vortec 4200 please.

[@Noah_McAlister]

The ameri-barra doesent get enough love

[@tskraj3190]

There is a guy on youtube that put a Turbo 4200 Vortec in a Checker Cab.

[@beaniebassist]

I always said that gm put their best truck engines in the caddies and SUVs. I want to put a 4200 in a single cab silverado with a 5 or 6 speed

[@tskraj3190]

@@Noah_McAlister Pretty soon Fiat/Chrysler will be releasing their "Barra" 😉

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

@@tskraj3190 yup. gonna be siick

[@jkheslekrants]

Very kick ass video. You've done a TON of great work but this is one of my favorites.

[@jaymanny6944]

Stock internals in the 5.3 and handling the 1000hp is impressive

[@sherylellingson3538]

That will only last for so long. No one gets away with running those numbers for an extended period of time. I would be nervous with the numbers the 5.4L was running, even with forged internals.

[@clydeshelton6533]

@Corrie Elieff uses sir! Just go to LSX trucks and performance on Facebook and find out! Lots of guys running 20 psi!

[@clydeshelton6533]

@@sherylellingson3538 lol itll last longer then any other non forged motor!

[@bryanphipps9131]

Thats why the LS wins day after day.

[@clydeshelton6533]

@Rolando Mota say what?

[@erichaley4485]

You are a big ford fan as your comments lean heavily towards the blue oval and that's fine. I'm glad that your tests were fair irregardless of your leanings

[@richardholdener1727]

you must be new to the channel

[@midnight347]

He tests more ls stuff than ford stuff and imo if anything leans that way..what he was saying in the video is true stuff the less timing will make a difference and even more so way less than optimal rpms...this mod motor could rev to 7500+ easily and would make alot more power. He was explaining to those who dont understand what a difference this stuff makes...gm guys just see the gm came out on top ultimately and dont wanna hear any good points on why the ford wasnt setup optimally and was leaving alot of power on the table. They didn't need to do anything more to the ford motor other than adding alot of timing and giving it another 1000-1500 rpm which it would have easily been able to do and in fact make ALOT more power. Richard just tries to make sure everyone understands both sides of the coin he isn't biast he just talks facts.

[@Gergatron4000]

Here in Oz, we got the 5.4 in our Falcons/Fairmonts in 3 different tunes: 3V had the Barra 230, the XR8 got the Boss 260, and the GT got 290. I think the 260 was equivalent to the Navigator. Yes, Australia measures power in kW.

[@DeadUgly1]

LS is still better and Im a Ford guy.

[@Gergatron4000]

@@DeadUgly1 amazing engine but they don't sound right

[@midnight347]

@@DeadUgly1 no it isnt better do more homework on your own engines since you're a "ford guy". They both do things differently ways the small block ford, mod motors and the coyote based engines all have a ton of potential. Despite what ls guys say its not always 10x cheaper to go ls either. You compare 5.3 and 4.8 which can be had cheap of course bang for buck is gonna be pro ls the engines can be had dirt cheap yet have close to the same potential vs anything larger ls based theyre cheaper because they're dime a dozen theyre EVERYWHERE. when you compare them to old mod motors the bottom end, the rods is particular, are alot stronger on the ls vs the old mod motors not in the terminator, gt500 ad ford gt. All other mdulars pre coyote got weak ass rods so junkyard motor vs junkyard motor the ls is gonna win in all out how much power can be made on stock bottom end tests. The coyote can go blow for blow with any ls period...it does cost more but cost continues to fall the more they made. Again cost is about availability there are way more 4.8 and 5.3 vs coyotes so of course theyre gonna be cheaper. You talkin 6.0 price is a lot higher and ls3 and the lt stuff you're talking coyote money. Not every ls is cheap that is a big misconception. And they certainly aren't "better" unless by better you mean they can take more reliable power in stock for vs a pre coyote mod motor that ISNT a ford gt, gt500, or terminator (or cobra r) engine then yes they can do that. Against the ladder 4 it's a different story but again it's about availability theyre more rare so are gonna cost more. The 96-98 cobra is a great underrated engine youre rods and piston upgrade away from making 1000 with turbos all day long. The ls bottom end is stouter than pre coyote mod motors outside those I mentioned that is easily upgradeable. The money you spend trying to get the Chevy to work in the mustang you could just built the mod motor for not much more cost wise. Dont just regurgitate what others say do your homework ford has some good stuff man no reason at all to say ls is better lol.

[@desmvp]

Thanks for doing some 5.4l 4v stuff I've been working on mine for a while and hardly see anyone run them they make good power and are pretty cheap. More 5.4l would be welcomed I believe.

[@traxiii]

I think the biggest difference would be the air to air vs. air to water intercooler and wonder what the air charge temps were for the two engines? That, the smaller throttle body and timing differences would probably explain the power differences. After being kicked out of engine masters for being so much better than the LS, I would be really surprised, if everything else was equal, that the Mod. motor wouldn't make more power than the LS. After all that, I would be interested to see what the Coyote with the same setup, as they are becoming much more available in wrecking yards.

[@billydbear2923]

What everyone wants to see is how much hp will a stock ford 5.4 ford engine will take before blowing up.vs stock 5.3 ls.

[@jonathanlawson4667]

You know that LS is going to last way longer because it's not a overhead cam engine and it's not ford 🤷‍♂️

[@lemontacosauce7320]

Modular ford has done something similar with a junkyard 351. It made 1000hp stock rotating assembly. Everyone just talks out there ass about ford. Thank goodness because more ford engines for me.

[@midnight347]

@@jonathanlawson4667 overhead cam dont have a thing to do with it but I wouldn't expect you to understand that being a troll. Its about the rods...the stock rods are the only thing holding it back vs the ls stuff. It dont cost that much to upgrade those. The block can take a shit ton and those dohc heads can support a shitload of hp. The reason the 5.3 is usually cheaper is because they put it in everything its way more common. Its not rocket science.

[@steffinmezger5301]

Ford makes great engines most Chevy guys like bow ties so much because there great great paw paw had one

[@Zach-ju5vi]

@@jonathanlawson4667the over head cam design can take more rpm.

[@samholcombe3129]

I’m a Chevy LS fanboy but I have to say I’m impressed with the old modular engine making that kind of power NA and boosted. I’d still stick with the LS though for small outer dimensions and lower costs. I honestly thought the 5.3 would get trounced having less valves and cubic inches. I am impressed with both engines.

[@nathanorear3523]

Never doubt a 5.3 vortec mine makes 330 stock and its from 2004 wich for that year in the trucks they made 289 hp as for the vans they made 330 man I dig that van

[@midnight347]

For the 4v to give a significant advantage it's gonna need to be revved higher when na. That is where the advantage is.

[@f5garage401]

Thanks for getting 5.4 v4 on the channel. Great data

[@tragicnomadic]

i would love to see a magnum 360/5.9 big bang to sort of round out the potential of the big three motors. I now the mopar guys are all 440 and 5.7/6.4 hemi, but the junkyard is literally litered with 5.9 and 5.2/318 stuff. and as an old prior owner of a 74 duster with the "highschool hot rod mods" i had a 318 and purple cam with 340 heads and 4 barrel edlebrock and a 904. was fun and i swore that it could be as fast or better than a hopped up 5.0

[@scottsigmon926]

I would love to see some magnum 5.2 and 5.9 builds. Nobody shows anything on them and they make good power. I have had them all and the most reliable was the magnum 5.2!!!!

[@ewetoobz3840]

Steve Dulcich may still have a sweet little 318 that's been in many cars / trucks that was around 400 hp with what I considered almost a tractor cam. That would be a great candidate for turbo I think. Maybe Richard and Steve could collaborate on it?

[@jamieschinkai1267]

@@scottsigmon926 In the latest episode of roadkill they have a duster with a Magnum 5.9 in it. I'm pretty sure its stock but it survives quite a thrashing.

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

i swear man. people sleep on the magnums too much.

[@tragicnomadic]

@@frigglebiscuit7484 hah its the cracking heads. got a bad rap and then time moved on. dodge invested in the new hemi and sorta forgot the old 5.9 the maggy is still the junkyard king. dare you to find a 6.0 still in the yard these days..

[@philprado848]

I'd like to see some navi motor intake testing with navi lower intake with custom box on top compared to coyote intake with adapters. Both na and boosted.

[@tturi2]

like a boss intake?

[@bluestangGT2001]

4.6 Ford vs 4.8 LS next? I'm typing this before I've watched this video.

[@madmod]

Im actually building a 4.8 2v shortblock on the side for my Sn95. The added stroke from a coyote crank in a stock bore 4.6 comes out to right at 4.8L with the benefit of it being a Kellog forged crank that is super cheap. Only needed a keyway cut.

[@trevorvaughn5562]

@@madmod what con rods are you using

[@madmod]

@@trevorvaughn5562Oem boss coyote connecting rods. Still sinter forged but they are much beefier and quite affordable.

[@RsixSlow]

This! Compare truck motor to truck motor, 2 valve to 2 valve. 2V PI 4.6L vs LR4 4.8.

[@sinistersilverado965]

LOL, the 4.8 LS kicks Coyote butt

[@tommyhathaway9190]

You short changed the hell out of that 5.4. With that intake, cams, and springs you should’ve been revving 7500 at least.

[@jeeplifted1]

I couldn’t agree more!

[@jameslesswalk]

Couldnt have made the chevy look better if they revved it all the way out

[@traxxasrcfun]

I was thinking the same thing. Hell my mach 1 4v revs to 7 stock, theres no way this 4v only revs to 65

[@dwaynefutch2976]

Don't forget stock ported heads on the 5.4 vs the cnc heads on the 5.3. that's the biggest difference

[@01Snorky]

Yeah, that combo could have ran higher and kept pulling. Each degree of timing can add 20ish hp too.

[@RyTrapp0]

At first I was surprised that the 5.3 made more NA power than the 5.4 with the 4v Navi heads, but it made more sense with the 5.3 having some decent TFS heads. Nice comparison none the less, they were still pretty close generally speaking, though I like the 5.4 curves better. Pretty sure either one will get you down the street or the track though, especially at 4 digits! Lol

[@BC08]

Ported Navis are better than TFS 215s. The 5.4 was just a mismatched combo.

[@joshperry4538]

Yeah, those 5.4 curves were very smooth.

[@austinhowze6280]

Mild build 5.4 vs a top end 5.3 I think the 5.4 will win the race and run more than just a drag race and still be street able

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@austinhowze6280 how is a junk yard 5.3 with ring gap a top end build?? The fuckin thing had like 9.5 compression. Btw...a l33 5.3 was rated at more power than the junky 5.4. The 5.4 would lose big. It's heavier and makes less power.....even tho it was fully built. We kinda need a do over to put this away i guess. Build a 5.3 with a nice piston package, ported oe heads like the 5.4, good machine work like the 5.4 then watch it whoop that 5.4 again....and likely by more.

[@austinhowze6280]

@@HioSSilver1999 lmao the 5.4 will turn bigger numbers for head flow it's simply a bigger more efficient motor a ported trickflow head flows way more air than you know only problem is the weak rod from factory

[@SnifferSock]

I live for these intros and their sick azz beats.

[@JimBronson]

Can we get some 3V 5.4 content? I know they are much maligned for the cam phaser issues, but you can feel free to lock out the phasers and run cams and turbos. Bonus: there were millions made in the full size pickups and SUVs.

[@christopherking2012]

It would be nice to actually see the spark plug eject and not have to do the repair myself.

[@blakestewart6644]

@@christopherking2012 Bahahahahahahaha

[@Juliuscaesar69th]

@@christopherking2012 thats on the 2v

[@pnwchris2000]

I just picked up an entire running and driving ‘01 Navigator with that engine for $750 from a family friend so I can swap that drivetrain including the “real-time 4WD” transfer case into my ‘77 F150 Shortbed 4x4. I’ve always wanted a Coyote in my Ford but this deal was too good to pass up. Engine has about 200k miles on it but I figured if I was ever going to own a 5.4L Triton engine than it might as well be the DOHC version that’s pretty similar to a Coyote. The transmission was completely replaced with a brand new unit 60,000 miles ago as well so I’m actually looking forward quite a lot going this route instead. I’ve been thinking that I can keep the engine the way it is and used it as a stock engine to get the swap taken care of and settle all the tidbits and tuning required to make the swap work the way it supposed to and then start modifying things and build the engine for boost with a supercharger and a conservative boost level. I don’t think I’d want 800hp but 600 sounds pretty good to me.

[@Shredxcam22]

The air density from the intercooler was the difference I bet. What was intake temps in the manifold on each motor ?

[@corvettejohn4507]

Probably not enough difference to worry about. Remember that the Ford made less power N/A than the Chevy. So it's going to make less power boosted too, regardless of small differences in intercooler temp. The 2 degree difference in total ignition timing probably made more difference under boost.

[@Shredxcam22]

@@corvettejohn4507 wonder where the losses were from. Ford with the better head should flow better and make more power I would of thought. If it can spin the rpm

[@Venomm8314]

@@corvettejohn4507 The bigger difference was the compression.8.5:1 on the Navigator vs 10:1 on the 5.3

[@brianslaugh3029]

I was surprised by that the 4 valve had premium parts plus 4 valve I thought it would dominate with a turbo it’s all about air flow the LS platform never ceases to amaze me

[@midnight347]

It only revved to 6500 it could have went to 7500 or 8000 easily and made way more

[@jedwards100able]

It doesn't have GT500 or GT40 heads it's a Navigator their heads are lot different. Also trying to down 4V when LS has Trick Flow heads?

[@603sportsman8]

I have always been a Ford guy. Have you gotten a chance to play around with the new 7.3? I think it could be a monster of a motor with some pretty simple modifications.

[@WelshKennelzCombine_DMV]

The new Ford 7.3 have Chevy & Dodge on there hills 😆

[@chadparrish9863]

The new 7.3 😂 don't get me started alot of dodge and gm bois are butt hurt when they realized they got wooped by a (big cube n/a ford motor) yet we was whooping them with small cube motors even. 😅

[@SirtubalotTX]

Impressive showing from 5.3 but it did it only because of the Trick Flow heads. The Navigator heads are amazing at stock and are capable of much more power. Both great engines and love your vids, keep em' coming.

[@michealortiz3350]

Both built and tuned properly, the 5.4 4v will spank any ls. Just remember people before you disagree, the ford 4v has gone way faster in the 1 /4 mile a long time ago to :)

[@timothywalker2273]

Forged bottom fully ported heads aftermarket cams against a stock everything other than heads and a cam ......... You can't be that delusional

[@eliascorteslopez1094]

Thank you Richard for another very awesome and interesting video.

[@HotGritz910]

Wl Well the ls is stock block and internals....the ford has upgrade piston and rods...from a cost perspective its just hard to beat the ls from a power and reliability standpoint

[@BlackTownie999]

True, However some States like Oregon and California have rules against engine swaps of different makes....In Oregon it's same make, same year or newer and must retain emissions equipment...So we can't swap in an LS into a Ford and get our tags...It sucks, there is tons of cool swaps that could have been.

[@brianstough5286]

Agree HotGritz910, I would like to further point out, besides the LS with ONLY the cam and heads upgraded, that it is still, what the Ford Boys like to call "old technology" since it only has one cam and it is IN THE BLOCK. Even with all the turbo plumbing, the LS will take up less room in the engine bay. AND, if you think about it, having the 4 valve engine that was relatively low production, how can this realistically be an "apples to apples" comparison - when the LS was taken from the junkyard (for probably less than 1/3 the cost of the Triton)? Cost ALWAYS needs to be figured in for something called "apples to apples" comparison!!

[@jaimeedwards1269]

@@BlackTownie999 Chris from B is for build lives in Oregon he LS swapped a Lamborghini, BMW swapped Nissan's 240, 2jz swapped brz and tags the cars and drive them on the street

[@cloroxfreshmeadowbleach9860]

@@jaimeedwards1269 you can get anything with money and having a name, government doesn’t care about you until you give them money

[@P71ScrewHead]

@@cloroxfreshmeadowbleach9860 true, politicians on both swamps loved Trump until he exposed them n ran against them..lol

[@Tac_3403]

I’ve been waiting for this one! So happy to see a 5.4

[@BC08]

Too bad it wasn’t a better comparison. A garbage 5.4 4V HCI setup vs. a solid 5.3 HCI setup is going to give a lot of people a very false impression of their capabilities. 444 HP @ a 6500 peak with a Sullivan single plane means there was something very, very off in that 5.4 combo. Damn shame, I sure hope Richard revisits the 5.4 4V in the future to see the real potential of the platform.

[@ashleypierce2196]

@@BC08 it is a bit strange, I run a dyno shop in Australia and have ran a few different gt falcons with the 5.4 4v that have made 400rwhp with a tune.

[@AZBADBOYz]

Getting a motor to 1000hp is one think, keeping it there is a whole nothing story LOL. Don't even get me started on transmissions to go along with that power 🙄

[@BC08]

Redo the test Richard. Ported Navi heads, 11:1 or better CR, decent cams this time (for example 231/233, .500/.480 @ 108/116 from Bullet) with Tooley springs, and port matched 2018-up Coyote intake manifold. Go ahead and make 550-600 crank HP N/A then boost it.

[@TheVenom8343]

Damn, does the 5.4 4V really make that much power with those mods? If so, that's fucking impressive!! I've only messed with 4.6 2V's, 4V's, and pushrod sbf shit. I'm with you on your other comment though, they didn't rev that 5.4 4V NEAR what it wanted. Hell my stock 4.6 4V Cobra would rev to 7k all fucking day long and it was bone stock!

[@HioSSilver1999]

I'll see your mods and raise you 6litres or more. There's nothing you can really do to make the furd keep up.

[@BC08]

@@HioSSilver1999 Doug, run back and hide with the 11-second LS6 swapped bolt-off pos. YOU haven’t done crap, so stop pretending like you can or have

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@BC08 i can link my 10sec bolt on street car run....and not even my best run. So stfu chody.

[@BC08]

@@HioSSilver1999 Who is a Chody. One timing error pass and a stack of 11.2 with your motor swapped Pos means nada. Go build a 6.0 so I can laugh

[@LangeLS4]

You should do a low buck build for a 5.3 LS4 that came on the Impala SS, Buick Lacrosee Super or Grand Prix GxP

[@marklowe7431]

Our Boss 290's her in Australia which are pretty much a Navi with a good manifold on it make an easy 450-500hp with the right cams and exhaust. LS or Mod both killer engines.

[@mattwells1036]

Pretty neat, itd be cool to see a balls out setup on both, I would assume you could get higher rpm from the DOHC, seeing how they compare if you make the 5.4 rev past 8000rpm would have been excellent, but this is still cool... shoot nascar motors are ohv and they can rev up to 9000rpm, so I'm certain its possible to go higher with overhead cams.

[@markmccarty9793]

That think has a really long stroke!! I love them, but they are torque motors! Great for towing!

[@kaylinmarquardt8974]

Just about to fall asleep and all the sudden, NEW VIDEO!!!

[@bcbloc02]

Don't be afraid to hold that throttle, That Ford had no signs of laying over when you ended the runs.

[@BlackTownie999]

A precaution I'd do is an extreme duty cam chain set, Don't want that sucker to let go at full steam!

[@SuperSilvi1990]

You'll end up with timing chains letting go. Seen it a bunch of times with mustangs engine dynos. The engine is good but the chains just bust and destroy everything else.

[@053Honda]

Everyone runs oe chains up to 4 digits

[@BlackTownie999]

@@053Honda I know, I was thinking of when cleetus mcfarland broke his and messed up a ton of stuff...Granted, he does thrash his really....really....really hard

[@devinmcalister1239]

That pore ford with A fram filter. Remember friends don't let friends run fram!!! Also love the channel keep up the good work!!!

[@dgxdetailingservicesltd8461]

Meh I've used Fram filters on all my Fords, never had a problem. If you do changes often enough it dont matter. That being said, I have a friend at a Ford dealer now so I get all Motorcraft filters for pennies on the dollar, if not free.

[@devinmcalister1239]

@@dgxdetailingservicesltd8461 yea man the thing is most ppl don't change there oil when they should and I have fixed a few to many cars with vct vvt oil pressure and more problems by pulling off the fram and putting on a different filter. oiling is to important to take chances on!!

[@michaelking1869]

Odd enough I would bet that the timing on both is within reason. On race fuel that 5.3L could have easily handled 22-24 degrees and the 5.4L likely 20-22 degrees. The small bore and long stroke of the 5.4L tends to make it happier with less timing. This was a pretty cool test. Thank you for putting it up.

[@stuffandjunkandthings364]

I'd really like to see a ford 3.7 or a chrysler 3.5 (4.0) v6 on the dyno. Both have decent heads from the factory and blocks that will (ford) or look like they could (mopar) take a beating. And both can be had pretty cheap.

[@mannyr.2756]

NO!.....

[@stuffandjunkandthings364]

@Jack Russelle Lewis The same can be said for any engine that isn't a LS. A LS will make more power cheaper than anything else, so let's just stop building anything else permanently- that's what we're going with here, right?

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

@Jack Russelle Lewis your opinion was a waste of space on this page.

[@scottsigmon926]

Hard to compare the 67mm’s to the 76mm’s!!!! With air to water and more timing!!!! But as always, love the comparison.

[@jasonamerica7618]

I understand the air to water inner cooler and the timing. Do the turbo sizes matter if the boost level is the same? The Ford turbos we’re not maxed out so does it make a difference?

[@tomcelica]

10lbs of boost from a gt28 is the same as 10 lbs from a gt45. If you had a leaf blower that could produce 10lbs of boost, that would be the same too.

[@jasonamerica7618]

@@tomcelica I agree with you, the only time turbo size would matter, would be if you were running out of boost , turbo lag or too big to spool. I would have liked to seen more timing and a better inner cooler though

[@HioSSilver1999]

Just refer to the na comparison then. That tells the tell more than boosted comparisons

[@jasonamerica7618]

@@HioSSilver1999 True. The 5.4 could have definitely pulled more revs though. I pull my 4v 4.6 to 7k and it feels like it wants more but I’m scared to push it on stock internals

[@MisterTotem2]

You're awesome Richard.. here's a comment for the algorithm.

[@sandwafle8091]

i kinda wanna see you put a barra on the dyno

[@chrismas5338]

The 5.3 had 102mm throttle body and 74mm turbos. The 5.4 was restricted by a 28mm difference with bolt ons. The 5.4 had 90mm throttle body and 67mm turbos. This was not an equal comparison with bolt ons.

[@brianstough5286]

sometimes it's the COST that keeps the Fords from getting an "equal comparison" - because COST is a HUGE FACTOR when you try to get Horsepower out of a FORD

[@053Honda]

I’d bet the 5.4 had lower compression, everyone used to go with the gt500 and termi 8.5:1

[@LDMco]

Yup making it better for boost

[@corvetteZ3r]

@@LDMco worse*

[@cainadkins3985]

@@corvetteZ3r obvious troll is obvious

[@corvetteZ3r]

@@cainadkins3985 how is lower compression better for boost? It’s not. More compression will make more power and make a lot more power under the curve with less lag depending on application. Come back when you know this

[@MississippiDan1]

There's a good piece of info... Bell housing bolt patterns for engine, trans combo possibilities.

[@morley3810]

Interesting comparison. I'm not a Ford guy but for some reason I thought the 5.4 would do more than it did. Likely had quite a bit of RPM ceiling left, for sure that would have helped. But IMO the LS will always be superior for most guys just from a standpoint of cost and availability.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

I agree, I think they could have taken the 5.4 over head cam to a higher rpm range.

[@samrogerskeeponkeepingon1486]

Don't forget longevity!

[@Droc-s197]

If I remember correctly he ran out of injector.

[@joesredinferno1801]

The turbo was smaller turbo with 5.4, not sure what else. Some one said that the ls heads out flow the mod heads i can help to wonder if this is even remotely true, and just for the record the 5.3 wont and cant make the same power as 5.4.

[@benjaminmenken5693]

The 5.4 due to its cast iron construction couldn have handled that, also it reaches peak tourqe at a pretty low rpm so it definitely had room left

[@evdawg7757]

I've done alot of modifying around with LS versus the 5.4, only factory repairs but I've heard the modular motors like boost.

[@shitbox7413]

Both brutal combinations, everyone wins. 👍🏻

[@travisvanliew4149]

Thanks for the video we all appreciate it and love the information

[@travisvanliew4149]

Do you know the compression by any chance on both thanks

[@richardholdener1727]

10:1 on the 5.4l and 9.4:1 on the LS

[@edwardmyers1746]

About time I see some modular 4Vs. Tired of all this coyote stuff that everyone on earth does. Boy do those modulars like boost

[@brianstough5286]

low production - only available in the Lincoln. Low production plus the "luxury" component means that much more attention to detail at the Quality Control end of the assembly lines. Not 'apples to apples'

[@anthonys7534]

That 5.4 four valve is what the coyote was derived from.

[@SVTMidnight]

@@brianstough5286 the coyote 5.0 is a 4v modular and it’s the best modular fords made that’s why u see them everywhere

[@brianstough5286]

@@anthonys7534 Like Ford's 4.6L V8s, the Modular 5.4L Triton engine has similar common problems for their engine family, which included blowing spark plugs and spark plug threads stripping (1997-2003 model years), stuck spark plugs due to a gap between the plug and the cylinder head which gets filled with carbon deposits (typical for 2004+ model years), and intake manifold cracking and leaking (poor design of plastic intakes). www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=187

[@anthonys7534]

@@brianstough5286 you missed the point. I'm referring to the architecture of the overhead cam design.

[@thastinger345]

In another vid they did on the 5.4 4V, they only had 65lb injectors in it and they maxed them out before it stopped making power.

[@OmarRuiz89]

I think 5.4 is basically more stock than modified, just remove those tiny mods and will be a slight difference like 20-30 hp less. But a stock 5.3 can't have more power than navi 5.4 I would like to see both engines stock and then tested with low boost, I mean no more than 10 psi, seems like everybody is up to Street combination.

[@TheKansasDude]

I don't think that 5.4 would make much power with stock rods and pistons, at least not for long..

[@tskraj3190]

5.3L 355 HP/ 383 lb-ft Torque. 5.4L 4V 235 HP/330 lb-ft Torque. I've owned both. The 5.3L is definitely a more powerful motor.

[@BrownBomber92181]

@@tskraj3190 5.4 4v from 2004, last year in production for the Navigator was rated at 300 hp & 355 lbs/ft @ 2,800

[@aarongray7364]

5.4 is 300hp 355 ft.lbs torque. Not sure where you got your anemic numbers from....

[@tskraj3190]

@@aarongray7364 Right here fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-motor-company-engines/ford-modular-family/ford-5-4l-triton-engine/ The 02 Lincoln Blackwood had 300 HP @ 6,000 RPMs with a 4spd automatic, 99-14 had 230 HP @ 4800 RPM with a 4spd automatic and 310 HP @5,000 RPM with a six speed automatic. Last, but not least the 1997 5.4L 2V Triton rated at 235 HP @ 4,250 RPM and the 2010 5.4L 3V rated at 310 HP @ 5,000 RPM. I owned the 07' 5.4L 3V in a F150 Sport FX2 and in comparison it was gutless compared to the two 5.3Ls I still currently own.

[@erichibbs5137]

I recently picked up a '99 Cobra 4V and T5 to build for my '46 Ford Super Deluxe Coupe. Being new to modifying Ford's mod what would y'all recommend? I'm aware that porting the heads and intake provide for big gains, but I'm unsure how much porting and polishing is needed. I'd like 500-ish STREETABLE horsepower on pump gas. Throw ideas at me please! Sean Hyland seemed to do big things in the past but is long gone and the reputation would scare me away if they were still around.

[@shanehaubrick2149]

You could probably build 3 of the ls for what 1 modular cost

[@slowstang88]

As a Ford guy, I completely agree. More complexity, more parts, and external dimensions modulars are comically enormous. I'm getting 351W stuff together for my 88 mustang, considered a coyote until I looked at size, price, and complexity

[@cainadkins3985]

Eehhhh not really but ok

[@midnight347]

​​@@slowstang88 it's not that complex people over exaggerate this. You can throw boost at stock heads and cams etc and make some damn good power whereas the ls had all aftermarket stuff on it. This ls prob had more expensive parts than the mod motor did and it's running larger turbos with more timing and more rpm. The mod motor was choked only spinning it to 6200. To still show as well as it did despite all this is a compliment to the 4v.

[@ts302]

Great work Richard. Thank you.

[@maxie9506]

Which one is more cost effective? I've noticed ford isnt as forgiving on the pockets.

[@177SCmaro]

Well, since GM puts an LS in almost everything that the engine will fit in, I'm gonna say your LS engines are more cost effective. But if you want to stand out from the crowd a bit those big wide modulars tend to really have a lot of presence under the hood.

[@corvettejohn4507]

@@177SCmaro Provided you can shoe horn it in, in the first place. Leave it to Ford to make a small block engine that takes up more room under the hood than most big block engines.

[@177SCmaro]

@@corvettejohn4507 Well yes and no. The coyote, for example, is just under 30 inches wide at the valve cover so yes, about as wide as a bbc with tall valve covers, but its actully a little bit shorter and narrower down low then a sbc. Btw, about any place a bbc can fit a modular can fit I haz proof! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3itqYmCiNeed6s

[@mitchellnelson466]

Here in Australia the 5.4 was disliked compared to the I6 Ford put out, although the performance branch (Ford Performance Vehicles) wanted to twin turbo from factory seeking some 400kws (600ish hp?) on the FPV GTs but unfortunately Ford USA said no. I quiet like them, although they’re known to have a flat spot in the RPM range with a tune it’s gone. I feel like the 5.4 could have gone better than the LS IF it was a test made to be identical in all regards but it wasn’t so that’s that.

[@nathanhatcher7096]

Nice comparison Richard! love both engine! I do believe a 2v head combo would believe a better choice for the 5.4 when it comes to boost! And obviously the 4v head will always be better for N.A. LS is just stupid simple and a smaller package to plumb boost around than the 5.4 or the 5.0 especially in a fox body!

[@richardholdener1727]

the 4V head makes more power na and under boost

[@ericgarrison5097]

Id love to see what you can do with gm's hfv6 3.6l v6, not the gdi though. Gm put these in everything, made between 250-275hp from the factory ,cheap in the yards. Aussies build these(called alloytec),made some decent NA power(444hp@8200+rpm from 217ci). Imagine what it'd make with twin efr7163's w cams/heads/intake. They do have some aftermarket support, in Australia though. Just figured it'd be a little different from typical LS's/mod's etc, n show those jdm's that domestic v6's/i4's can hang with theirs, and cheaper.

[@TheMlc4life]

What was the cost of each motor at the end to build? We need those numbers.

[@jonathanlawson4667]

LS was internally stock so the cost of that will blow that ford cost out of the water and still make more power they probably had 20k in that ford and probably not even 10k in the LS

[@brianstough5286]

@@jonathanlawson4667 These tests were done a few years apart, so the actual costs may be difficult to 'track'. Easy to say that the LS build cost less than 1/2 what the Triton did

[@midnight347]

@@jonathanlawson4667 you could duplicate a mod motor build way less than 20 grand like this. Do some research

[@jonathanlawson4667]

@@midnight347 you're full of shit lol you duplicate that ford build and see if you aren't over atleast ten grand close to twenty I've raced all my life and know what I'm talking about he said that ford had forged internals aftermarket crank aftermarket heads and cam you do the machine work and buy all those parts and have a professional assemble the long block your in over 10k right there not to mention the intake and fuel injection and exhaust lol yeah when you get into building big horsepower your spending the money because these aren't your shadetree build in your garage engines

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

both were expensive af and both will break eventually.

[@IndependenceIron]

I would say the LSXRT intake runners are a good bit longer than the Sullivan so the NA-NA comparison favored the 5.3 in the RPMs tested. That favorability should be reduced under boost but don't think it is completely eliminated. But this shows the main problem with the modulars which is lack of aftermarket options in 4v heads and intakes. A comparison i would like to see and other possibly would be a 5.4 2v with TFS heads and TFS intake against the same 5.3 combo.

[@midnight347]

You don't need aftermarket 4v heads ported stockers do just fine but I agree with the lack of intake options it really sucks.

[@chadparrish9863]

Theirs a reason why us 4.6/5.4 4v guys have no aftermarket heads available because the heads allready flow great from the factory. That's why theirs no head options. Intakes theirs a (large) selection of great and available Intakes. Australian, coyote, and many other options.

[@bradcarter7315]

test the 4v with stage 4 "modular head shop" heads!

[@nobiden3134]

And use the cam phasers since they're part of the rotating mass..

[@bradcarter7315]

@@nobiden3134 cams gears locked and degree'd

[@benjaminmenken5693]

The 5.4l triton is such a cool looking engine

[@mavsformulaful]

Outstanding.. first thought- how is that fair? Then crushed the 4v heads, muahahaha!

[@177SCmaro]

"Crushed" is a strong word. It's hard to tell but I suspect the 5.3 was running a lot more cam. Usually "stage 2" cams on modular stuff is still pretty tame. Also, something weird was going on at the top of the 5.4's curve. It was on it's way to 450hp and then just died at 6500rpm for some reason when you gotta rev these 4 valve motors tighter then that. That's kinda the whole point of all those extra cams and valves. I mean stock 5.0 Coyotes are making over 450 from less displacement so something seems off with that 5.4.

[@TractorTech]

Put a set ported truck heads on the LS like the 5.4 had and see what the out come is.

[@richardholdener1727]

ported 706 heads make the same power as the TFS

[@177SCmaro]

@james avery 4 valve has more valve area but it's not double as each valve is relatively small.

[@177SCmaro]

@@richardholdener1727 On a bigger engine with more camshaft they can.

[@محمدالشمري-ض4ث7م]

The big cam for the 5.3 do the difference NA + the intercollar difference

[@oikkuoek]

I call this a corrupted test. By the math, the Ford should have been a far superior engine setup over the Chevy. Also there was several test runs on Chevy, but just one on Ford. Also, 4V needs longer runners than 2V, because the airflow is different. Also the Ford curve looked like it was just slapped together and ran, then dismissed the funk in the curve just by stating "It's a Ford!" I'm not a "Ford-", nor a "Chevy-guy", but the winner of this contest was already decided before neither of those motors got even near the bench.

[@BC08]

No doubt, Richard admitted it towards the end of the video too

[@ewetoobz3840]

@@BC08 uh, check the date of testing. Probably not in the same decade... then listen to the beginning of the video again.

[@BC08]

@@ewetoobz3840 It’s not, that 5.4 test was from the early-mid 2000s IIRC. I remember it

[@travispfannmuller7717]

Not a direct comparison as he stated in the first sentence but i'd say pretty comparable in a lot of respects. The 5.4 needed to be wound up a lot higher and results would have been much closer but it's hard not to be impressed with how well that 5.3 did with heads and a cam in my opinion. 5.4 should definitely make more horsepower than the 5.3 but I doubt the torque would be as good. Watch his other 5.4 vids, Richard is a big fan and I was very impressed with them as well. I can't afford to modify one so I'll stick to my LS stuff but have tons of respect now

[@BC08]

@@travispfannmuller7717 This particular 5.4 was done at 6500, something was really off in this particular 5.4 combo. I’d like to Richard redo the test.

[@brucebanner9872]

Any reason why you stop the 5.4L pull short? Looks like it could still have climbed a few 100 more RPMs

[@TheeAbstractHero]

Lets see some Vortec 4200 stuff... there are a few folks making 400+ hp and the engines are dirt cheap!

[@stealthyURL]

hold on for the 4.6l 4v engines you can find in the lincoln mark viii pretty cheap for the whole car around 2k or probably good amount in the junkyards :)

[@scottgas1299]

Always hard to compare 2 valve engines to 4 valve engines. Typically I would think a 4.6 4 valve engine would be a more direct comparison to a 5.3 LS. Yeah the LS would have more displacement but the 4.6 would have 4 valve heads and more revs. The power this 5.3 makes is a testament to how good LS heads are. This is definitely an apples:oranges comparison. BOTH would be a hoot to drive though.

[@codyramos3200]

that was a 4v 5.4

[@scottgas1299]

@@codyramos3200 yeah, I know. Never said it wasn't. The 4 valve heads gives the 5.4 an advantage regardless if displacement is close or not.

[@petrolhead8851]

This engine wasn’t revved to its potential! These engines make power up past 7k rpm up to even 8k rpm!

[@aw11man26]

@@petrolhead8851 thats why its hard to compare these 2 engine. The 4 valve heads make it breath like a larger engine. I would think a better comparison would the 5.4 4 valve and an LS2

[@benjaminmenken5693]

@@petrolhead8851 my 2v rpm gauge maxes out at 6k

[@54SCV8]

I would like to see bare block build. Everything one get the other gets. If one gets cams..they both get cams...etc. No monetary cap. Just a list of parts both would be getting.

[@jaydubb71]

I'm just starting to watch this video. I think the 5.3 will make more torque and the 5.4 will make more HP. I could be wrong tho

[@jaydubb71]

And I was wrong. Lol

[@RyTrapp0]

The LS has aftermarket heads though, so not too surprising

[@BigMikesGarage]

@@RyTrapp0 The porting work on those 4 valve heads probably cost as much as the aftermarket LS heads, not to mention the cost of the cams. The 5.3 could have done the same thing with factory heads. That's one of LS engine's big strengths, the factory heads are outstanding. A set of surface milled 799 or 243 heads would have been able to make similar power numbers. There was MUCH more money invested in the 5.4 as tested than the 5.3.

[@RyTrapp0]

@@BigMikesGarage They weren't compared head to head these are completely different builds - no need to state what we already knew

[@playanddisplay3636]

Would love to see some 4200 Vortec or Triton V-10 stuff. Or maybe a Triton 5.6 vs. Tundra 5.7??

[@richardholdener1727]

4200 stuff is up

[@playanddisplay3636]

@@richardholdener1727 You're the man. Going to watch it soon.

[@andreburgess7463]

I would like to see some Ford procharged builds

[@053Honda]

The whole video would be trying to keep the belt from slipping and pulley swapping and talking about how much power it could have made if the belt wasn’t slipping

[@samduran5180]

@@053Honda 🤣😂 your exactly right lol!

[@thirstquencher3203]

I would like to see more comparison between 5.4 4v and coyote.. but DAMN LS is the way to go all day!! Best bang for your buck💪💪

[@leelathrop9539]

Apples to apples? The GM motor has bigger turbos,better inter cooler, more timing, better heads and a huge cam. Pretty close to apples to apples though😂😂😂

[@Alteris85]

Don't forget a better intake manifold not one that was put together from a carburetor style switched to efi.

[@christopherjohnwest]

Great video! Both great engines. Although I am a Chevrolet LS fan just for the fact that I like to spend less $$$ to go fast lol!

[@BigMikesGarage]

Let's compare the difference in $ invested as tested.

[@01Snorky]

That's a waste of time, everyone knows the shortblock side of the answer. It would be 5.4 shortblock = 5.3 LS plus rods/pistons. Google can find the results of a fast intake/TVs 215 heads, cam and hardware. Or a Sullivan intake, 4v cams, and a stage 1 port job on 4v heads

[@BigMikesGarage]

@@01Snorky So you said all of that to say....nothing. My point was that the 5.4 costs more to achieve and be reliable to the same HP level.

[@01Snorky]

@@BigMikesGarage just say that then instead of ignorantly suggesting a cost analysis which could waste richards time.

[@BigMikesGarage]

@@01Snorky anyone with half a brain can deduce from my statement that's what I was getting at. You're not stupid, just unlucky when it comes to thinking.

[@01Snorky]

@@BigMikesGarage lol classy.. very classy

[@luciankristov6436]

Coyote on boost. 18lbs makes some serious power. You should do that next at some point

[@kcromwell82]

Bet it makes near 120% over stock.