USS Baya 'Fish Out of Water'

[@henryratajczak3071]

Wish they would bring this show back. The Silent Service Show was a honor to watch in the 60's. These Submarine Captians and their crews were and still are HEROS For the submariners that are still on patrol , GOD SPEED !

[@stevenhj3124]

I'm an historian and very much enjoy this historic series of World War II in the Pacific. The original black and white photos and films of what is really happening are classic. What is impressive is the live filming by US during the real war. Well done Richard Damm and crew.

[@christopherfisher6293]

How can you not be inspired and uplifted by such tales of heroic duty?? Well done every one, well done!!

[@jimlaguardia8185]

This show might seem somewhat bloodthirsty in 2019, but US was fighting for its life against ruthless enemies who had to be stopped.

[@beagle7622]

I was watching this show after I came home from school in the early 1960’s . I remember because it was the day before my uncle emigrated to Canada from Australia. We used to play submarines after school a lot.

[@mikeupton5406]

PB4Y-2. A fearsome machine even when it was long past military duty and being used to fight fires. Everyone at the Santa Barbara airport would stop and watch. One of the loudest prop driven aircraft I have ever seen or heard. Santa Barbara airport had been a Marine Corps training base during WW2. Ironically TBMs, Tigercats, PBYs, Privateers, P2Vs and S-2s all operated from there to fight fires while I was growing up in Goleta and later working on that airport. Along with B-17s, C-119s, DC-4,6 and 7s. I know that the Guardian and the Savage were used to fight fires but I never saw any at S.B. if they were there I missed them.

[@HemlockRidge]

Yeah. I thought I was looking at a B24 until I noticed the tail, and the observation blisters.

[@timothyfoleyjr2796]

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[@drlong08]

The aircraft you see often in this episode IS a B-24 that's been modified for shore patrol / maritime duty with a conventional tail and modified nose.

[@brucegibbins3792]

That there in the opening frames appears devastatingly scary much like watching a monster from the deep. Excellent series this. Missed it first time around so happy to have found this vintage series.

[@mickeymet6973]

For a few minutes there, I thought I was watching "12 O'Clock High" again! Good episode!

[@mikewalrus4763]

Don't you just love the way they give a position without any charts or checking things! Hell we can't do that these days!

[@johnhaynes3490]

@ David Craig, the maritime patrol bomber in the film is a Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer, produced 1943-1945

[@331SVTCobra]

So when it's taking off it's a B-24, but flying around it's a PB4Y, and it has B-17 waist gunners and tail guns. :)

[@timengineman2nd714]

Actually they had PB2Y (Liberator) and PB2Y2 Privateer (with 2 dorsal turrets and twin gun "turrets" were the B-24 had it's single gun waist gunners. It also had a single vertical stabilizer & rudder.). Note: they didn't have a ball turret, so when they got bounced by enemy fighters they dove for the deck! (Enemy planes would often have to face 6 to 8 .50 cal machineguns!! Too bad they (PB2Y2) arrived so late in WW2...... Sorry, just started seeing the part of the video you were talking about....

[@michaelfuller2153]

...sharp eyes! 😆 You are correct...

[@kwakagreg]

​@@timengineman2nd714the pb2y was the Coronado

[@kwakagreg]

​@@timengineman2nd714the privateer was the pb4y2

[@Straswa]

Great vid! Thanks for uploading this series. Ever since I started playing Silent Hunter 4, I've gained an appreciation and respect for submariners.

[@robertle3038]

Play Mario Bros., you more respect plumber.

[@markhonerbaum9874]

Thanks for another of the best of the best and an education about the silent service!

[@fredbielawski2600]

Really was the greatest generation

[@sr633]

Brave special men. Who cares ? I do.

[@timengineman2nd714]

A lot of the airplanes shown in this episode are PB4Y2, a modified B-24 with a single tail fin, twin .50's in the side blisters and two top turrets and No Ball Turret! The side blisters were nominally a turret and could elevate and depress the twin heavy machineguns. Supposedly the two side turrets could converge their fire about 50 feet below the airplane, but I find this somewhat doubtful.... Besides, odds are they PB4Y2 Privateer would likely go for the "deck" so no fighter could even attempt an attack from below it! (added in edit): The (US) naval version of the B-24 was called: PB4Y. After the PB4Y2 finally came out, very late in the war, they of course started being called PB4Y1

[@allenbuck5589]

Thanks I enjoy these old showed.

[@AndrewVelonis]

I noticed that Selby was a technical advisor for this episode.

[@markhonerbaum9874]

Take the accuracy for good measure, the story's are true and all story's have variants so take your microscope else where as we are getting the best part across and to whom it may concern is it not as close to the truth to be educational? I'm all for this series of history worth remembering.

[@thekingsilverado3266]

From the very minute my tires hit the runway on Luzon my guys taught me thee big diff between an enlisted Mosquito and and Officer Mosquito was how many times ya had swat or spray em to kill em. The ones ya couldn't kill ya had to salute come mornings light was the general rule of things. Them islands are all still a bit like the wild wild west. Just thee shootins died down a little since the olden days.

[@drlong08]

I recall a sub crew once painted their sub pink due to lack of white primer, then had to ship out too soon due to an attack...same thing happened to them after Tokyo Rose found out about the "Pink Sub".

[@paulsmith4448]

Many thanks a great series Some very good air gunners! Not a scratch on the american plane . . . a good days hunting tho

[@fatherthomas1575]

When men were men and safe places were behhind a trigger.

[@stargazer5784]

Great series. The mock up bomber cockpit was really bad though.

[@imapaine-diaz4451]

Jeeze, I never knew the B-24 had a pressurized cockpit in 1942? the gunners are all in high altitude gear and the pilots are flying in shirtsleeves!!

[@rickmarlar4708]

that was not a B 24 it was a PBY4 B 24 had a twin tail

[@johnbockelie3899]

Actually B-24's B=17 's were great refrigerators.

[@thesarge1969]

Some of those planes must have had Great ranges, There was FW 190, ME 109's I eve saw a P47

[@matthewj2492]

PB4Y-2 - didnt know much about this plane.

[@donmcmannamy3409]

The shots of the waist and tail gunners were b17.

[@leoruiz8607]

Great!

[@topgeardel]

I love this series but that observation craft is made to look like an air ace. Instead of it being shot down, it's shooting down Japanese fighters, one after another. Don't think that's the way it really worked.

[@Absaalookemensch]

I don't think that this series was popular in Japan.

[@180mph9]

Great story

[@JovitaMortel-po1gx]

❤

[@shermanross5175]

The fighter being shot down at 20:08 looks like an FW-190. Was the Japanese pilot in it flying for the Luftwaffe?

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

I don't think liberator's faired quite that well against zero cannons. It was no even match when one bomber was against a flight of zeros. it would have been very dicey.

[@HemlockRidge]

@shadowskater11 Well I do know something about it. Having a bomber shoot down 3 attacking Zeros without a scratch is highly unlikely.

[@willboyd4607]

So, initially, they could not coordinate between the subs and the planes.....then suddenly they discoovered the radio.

[@johnbockelie3899]

Pressurized cockpit, frozen waist section. Rank has its privalige.

[@willboyd4607]

Are all these films about Annapolis grads, or only 90%.

[@imatifoso2782]

The vast majority of men high enough to be skippers were from the Academy.

[@christianhaupt2637]

Yea about 90% there’s a few episodes with reservists

[@user-mq4tr1yn4u]

Por fa or si es pocible qué todos los episodios qué están pasando en esta serie bélica sopuedrn poner sub títulos en idioma español para tener más atención ala serie ta qué hablan en inglés de antemano gracias

[@farmerdave7965]

Let's breathe in some DDT.

[@stephenfarthing3819]

These are B32's - follow up bombers to the B17's.

[@davidcraigthor]

Anyone recognize the 4 engine recon planes?

[@DunedinMultimedia2]

Consolidated B-32 Dominator.

[@michaelfuller2153]

PB4Y Privateer, I believe...?

[@rifles75]

Pby privateer, a converted b-24 liberator

[@teddyduncan1046]

Did they actually sue B-32 Dominators for sub patrol? I thought they were an afterthought to Pacific bombardment

[@keithstudly6071]

No, this was a modified B-24. You can tell by the tail which was different. Navy Consolidated PB4Y-2.

[@mushmorant9253]

Didn't they have IFF ability this late in the war?

[@johnemerson1363]

Only on the big ships. Submarines didn't need it that often.

[@rodfirefighter8341]

I've heard of it in reports and documents but I'm not sure of the dates or details of it's operation.

[@paulredinger420]

Yes, they did have it in 1944- to the present

[@docbailey3265]

Was this realistic? I mean, slow and clunky vs a speedy Zero?

[@parrot849]

...How come the captain, when he sees the enemy in periscope and gets his target information, will then lower the periscope to tell everyone what to do; how many torpedos, depth, range, etc.; then he just has to raise the periscope again to shoot the torpedos. Why doesn’t he just do all that at one time with the periscope while it’s already up!!? Does anyone know why? Seems like an unnecessary extra step....

[@windwardhaven]

There's a lot of steps not shown in the show. The guy in the background inputs data (target bearing, range, est. angle, est. speed) into the TDC (Torpedo Data Computer). They do these observations several times over a period to provide an accurate firing direction for the torpedoes - it takes more than one look - to calculate where the target will be when the torps run out to it. The final, shooting observation verifies that the computer is tracking the target properly (and fine tunes the data) - that's when you hear "set".

[@parrot849]

Thanks very much for the reply. You know, it’s so amazing the TDC could perform the way it did. A completely analog computer, simultaneously linked to the control room and the weapon in tube. I wonder if Japanese submarines had anything equivalent to it. Or for that matter, any other countries’ submarine forces during World War II.

[@chrisspalding1463]

You wanted to bring your periscope down as much as possible. The longer it was up the more likely you would be spotted. A periscope leave a very visible wake and being round and not hydro dynamic it made the problem worse.

[@parrot849]

Chris Spalding - - Thanks for the answer Chris....

[@robertbellamy8962]

If you want to know what the submarine Captain thinks then read the book "Dead Wake" about the sinking of the Lusitania in world war I. The book is a drama however the portions about the submarine are from the actual records of the German skipper who commanded it. It was a harrowing experience under the water. No sonar no radar everything stinks and only a little hole to see out of. It was a good cat and mouse story with the politics of Germany and England thrown in.

[@bill2953]

A plane at 500 or 1,000 ft sees the sub but doesn't see the maru it's tracking. Someone needs a wakeup alright.

[@jimomalley1518]

Love tp breath in some DDT

[@petejoseph8257]

Bug spray on the table with coffee cups, in the face. Selby dies a week later.

[@willboyd4607]

So, they start out in a PBY but when the fighters come in, they are in a B25.

[@vawlkee51]

Actually most of the shots were of the Consolidated PB4Y-2, an aircraft created especially for anti-sub work. An offshoot of the earlier PB4Y-1, which was basically a modified B24-J. The "2" sported super sophisticated electronics as well as bombs, depth charges and no fewer than 14 .50 cal machine guns!

[@illinoismontanacoach]

i think the plane referred to was the alternate bomber to the B-29. this was a large payload long distance bomber that wasn't selected as the primary bomber to replace the earlier B24s and B17s,,,note the high tail section.less than 200 bombers were ordered and purchased by the USAAF..---B-32 Dominator

[@foofooblenda734]

guns that dont shoot with the sound mmmmm chinese guns?

[@paulwillson8887]

Consolidated Coronado long range maratime aircraft

[@michaelsullivan4213]

Did you notice the gunners were on oxygen. Not one in the cockpit had no oxygen

[@austinevplab7167]

Possible answer, I know this is true for some of the planes but I’m not sure about this particular one. The cockpit and tail were pressurized, however the gunners needed oxygen.

[@keithstudly6071]

@@austinevplab7167 No, just stock footage being used. PB4Y-2 was not equipped for high altitude. No turbochargers because they were unnecessary at the altitudes it was used for.

[@joegrinnell9182]

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[@davidhimmelsbach557]

The Japanese were in such bad, bad shape that there were virtually no anti-air sorties put up by the IJA air force by the time being portrayed. Tokyo was saving their Sunday punch for the home islands. BTW, virtually NO Japanese merchant ships could travel -- in convoy -- at 10 knots. The US merchants -- Victory ships -- could only travel at 6 maybe 7 knots when in convoy. (The Atlantic) US Liberty ships traveled at ~ 4 knots when in convoy. The slowest, oldest ships dictated convoy speed -- always. Japanese merchants typically traveled at 2 to 3 knots when in convoy. Japan was hugely constrained WRT marine propulsion. AFTER the war, Japan was obsessed with curing this -- and hence -- built up the world's largest merchant ship building capacity by the 1960s.

[@Ch1n4Sailor]

A decent story, but some gross inaccuracies... For one, no navy patrol plane would be hanging around if they saw enemy fighter a/c attacking them.. Their machine guns / gunners were last line of defense only... The first line of defense for a patrol a/c would be run and hide... not stand your ground and shoot it out... crazy... And they definitely wouldn't be shooting down all those fighters... Just crazy... No.2 There is NO WAY a sub guy with ZERO a/c qualifications would be camped out at the controls in the co-pilot seat the whole flight... Maybe a couple minutes here and there, but probably not at the controls at all... Those planes were manual intensive planes, which required someone fighting with controls the whole time...The radio man would literally be more qualified to be sitting in the co-pilots seat than some sub commander... Another crazy stupid inaccuracy... But I guess it was in the script...

[@s.sestric9929]

Gotta love internet know-it-alls for explaining why everything sucks.

[@rodfirefighter8341]

Yes, they could probably set the sub on remote control and completed the mission by themselves with a PlayStation hand controller!!?

[@taylor7772]

Oh Knowledgeable one please spread your information.

[@GermanShepherd1983]

When men weren't afraid to fight, unlike trump and his "bone spurs".