Rhea Seehorn Reveals Something You Probably Didn’t Know about ‘Breaking Bad’ | The Rich Eisen Show

Actress Rhea Seehorn joins Rich Eisen in-studio to discuss how she landed her memorable role of Kim Wexler on ‘Better Call Saul’ and reveals the origin story behind Breaking Bad’s Mike Ehrmentraut character.
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[@ourcorrectopinions6824]

The fact that she didn't win an Emmy, especially for "Bad Choice Road", is absolute insanity. That was peak acting.

[@jsmithers.]

She still will for Waterworks...

[@kylemc8851]

LOL, not it wasn't.

[@sauldownbadman876]

She's completely overrated

[@boat1280]

There are a lot of great dramas these days. It's not that insane lmao

[@prestonrutherford873]

She should for Waterworks

[@KennethTakanami]

The original plan was to have Saul show up and clean up Jane's body, but Bob Odenkirk was busy filming "How I Met Your Mother." The writers then realized that Saul would never do the dirty work of cleaning up a corpse so they created a Winston Wolf style "fixer" in the character of Mike.

[@tonyc8752]

Cuz the hit man from Beverly Hills Cop. Took me a couple of seasons before I even realized it

[@Jdb63]

You are repeating exactly what they said in the video

[@metalbrock57]

Yep. I’m surprised Rich didn’t know this. It’s fairly common knowledge among BB fans

[@chrundle00]

@@metalbrock57 lmao no it's not

[@baggybones]

@@chrundle00 ?? It is pretty common knowledge though,If you're a breaking bad/BCS fan,you should know this

[@TheAireaidLord]

Thats crazy that BCS season 1 was supposed to transform Jimmy into Saul right away but Michael's performance changed the whole thing

[@yungcelo]

first read this thinking Michael Mando ( yes I hadn't finished watching the vid)

[@jsmithers.]

​@@yungceloWtf..

[@user93279]

@@jsmithers.bro is very unhappy over the smallest mistake that has already been corrected

[@jsmithers.]

@@user93279 No...

[@merelmerula9313]

Ugh, that would have been so much better! Nothing against Michael, but I hated the rather one-note character of Chuck and felt the show dedicated way too much time to him. We stopped watching for YEARS because it was so ridiculous. Better Call Saul didn’t come into its own until Chuck was gone. If Jimmy had turned into Saul earlier, we still could have had many seasons with Rhea… it would have been fascinating to see Kim “break bad” more slowly, instead of jamming it into the last few episodes. I feel the creators really robbed us of the promise of many seasons of Saul’s antics… instead we got law firm mail clerk drama and retirement home bingo schenanigans. Imagine if Breaking Bad kept Walt in the classroom and dealt with Junior every episode for three seasons. It would have been intolerable.

[@ChowDownDetroit]

She should’ve won an Emmy, Golden Globes, and SAG

[@stockdoc9384]

Simp

[@demonface4190]

She could this year. Her and Bob have one last chance to win Emmy’s this year since the second half of the 6th season is eligible to be nominated

[@StevenMichels]

@@demonface4190 A travesty of justice.

[@BigSmoke-bu6ib]

Why do you care about these meaningless awards shows?

[@iTMX7]

@@VicenzoV What the hell are you talking about?

[@annrodriguez2891]

Her performance as Kim Wexler was definitely one of the best I have ever seen...She was so funny and classy and complex and exciting ..as Kim she was definitely the heart ❤️ of the show and the love story between her and Jimmy really tore me up

[@AqueleRod]

It's amazing how the writers adapted the shows according to the actors' work. Kim, Howard, Saul, Jesse... all of them had a completely different arc planned. Thankfully, because we got two masterpiece series!

[@Mokkari77]

And they planned to kill Jesse off at the end of Breaking Bad season 1 but Aaron Paul's chemistry with Bryan Cranston was so great that he was spared!

[@zizoumonk10]

Sorta like how Jesse was supposed to be killed off in season 1 but the chemistry between him and Walt was so great it became the focus of the show.

[@jsmithers.]

No.

[@TheBigSmoker]

Wdym

[@unnaturallynatural8885]

​@@jsmithers. Care to divulge what you mean?

[@jsmithers.]

@@unnaturallynatural8885 No.

[@johnnyrivas2619]

It was actually a writer's strike that saved Jesse. Because of it they weren't able to complete season 1, which would have ended with Tuco killing Jesse after he kidnaps him and Walt. But that gave Vince and Co. a chance to take a second look and change a few things, including Jesse not dying. I mean you're not wrong that their chemistry helped to change their minds, but it's the strike that did the most to save Jesse.

[@arvislegend]

Believe it or not, they mentioned that fact about Mike's character in AMC's Talking Bad. I was fascinated by that fact too, a simple scheduling conflict helped create one of the best TV characters in the past 20 years of television.

[@faybiel4956]

Not only that, but had Saul "cleaned up the body" we may not have BCS or the rest of BB as we know it. Saul cleaning up a body would fundamentally change his character. The Saul that WE know would never do that, let alone at the level he is operating by the time BB is happening. So Saul cleaning up a body himself would mean an entirely different character who's nature it would be to do something like that. I hope that makes sense loll

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

@@faybiel4956 It's also amazing where we were taken by a single, forgettable, throwaway line about two guys named "Lalo" and "Ignacio" while Saul was held captive in the desert that night. Felt so insignificant at the time and it was years before BCS was even properly conceived.

[@fapple6240]

She’s so much more open and talkative in real life than Kim is it’s cool to see

[@Joseph-uc5co]

"Okay."

[@EntahStudio]

@@Joseph-uc5co "Okay." (stares at Jimmy, looks down then leave)

[@gabyjuen]

Totally! She portrayed perfectly the fact that Kim was a broken soul since her childhood, no matter how good things were going for her in certain moments...

[@OmniversalInsect]

Funny how some characters like Walt and Kim are very different from their actors while others like Mike and Jimmy are fairly similar to the real actors.

[@suzushiEitan]

Stunning. She's simply stunning. Deserved an Emmy a looooong time ago

[@eljefe258]

Kim Wexler is the greatest depiction ever of a strong female character

[@bratprica6383]

What about Peggy Olson from Mad Men?

[@cb9600]

@@bratprica6383 Not even close:)

[@bratprica6383]

@@cb9600 whyy

[@nagualdesign]

What about Sarah Connor? Or Ellen Ripley?

[@flacidhouse350]

@@bratprica6383 She is totally carried by her mentor and has a nervous breakdown.

[@collegeman1988]

Mike Ehrmantraut is my favorite supporting character in both Breaking Bad and Better Caul Saul. He’s a bad guy, but I found myself sympathizing and identifying with that character while watching both shows.

[@DL-df3lg]

My favorite character in that universe. So fascinating to me to watch him work.

[@nicolascaraballo1534]

I wouldn’t say he’s a bad guy, he’s a criminal sure, but unlike Walt I think he really does do it for his family, and he tried to help a lot of people despite him being forced to do a lot of killing.

[@ChuckyChess1769]

big difference was that mike knew what he was doing was wrong and never defended it, walt wouldn’t ever and would just make excuses

[@collegeman1988]

@@ChuckyChess1769 That’s a great observation, and probably explains why I like the character of Mike Ehrmantraut.

[@Elwaves2925]

Mike is also my favourite character in both shows. I wouldn't say he's a bad guy as such, Tuco, Gus and the others are the bad guys. Mike kinda straddles the line where he'll do a lot of bad things but it's often to help others out, even if that isn't always a good thing. He's a criminal but with morals and standards and will only do the worst things if there's no other way that's good.

[@visitken]

I think when Rhea said "Jessica's character dying" (2:56) that was her confusing Krysten Ritter with Jessica Jones although she tried to explain it as "Jesse's girlfriend"....

[@SuperClassic11]

one of the most criminally under-recognized performances and characters in TV history

[@stockdoc9384]

Says the simp

[@AB_223]

@@stockdoc9384 You are worthless

[@drewfoster5030]

@@stockdoc9384I simp for your mom

[@jsmithers.]

Cry.

[@AB_223]

@@jsmithers. You sure are

[@reconstructionmanifest7349]

Such an amazing performer and human. How she won no Emmy is unreal. I adore her entire acting style and everything she brought to that show

[@Joe.ross311]

Better Call Saul was the perfect prequel series. Absolutely loved it. I’m going to miss the Breaking Bad universe

[@vdoggydogg3922]

She is a stunner and did a great job with the character.

[@slyfor2]

Jesus, Rhea is such an amazing part of this show and universe. Mike is probably one of my top characters of all time and to think he almost didnt exist is unthinkable knowing the show how we know it now. And I think Rhea is right, thank god they didnt take Jimmy/Saul in that direction because his conscience in BCS made Jimmy such a deeper character than the shyster Saul we know and love from BB. Rhea is such an amazing addition to this great franchise and Im so glad they made her Jimmys heart and weakness so Chuck could be his adversary.

[@R.J.1]

I've never seen her out of her character as Kim. She's very lovely.

[@kaya_serkan]

She's BEAUTIFUL.

[@adrianjones8073]

Incredible how the stars aligned perfectly at various stages of the BB BCS universe

[@denisfreitas3146]

She didn't win an Emmy, but won my heart. 😍😍😍

[@bruhmomento6691]

W rizz

[@Seinsmelled]

This was the exact moment when Denis Freitas became Rizzenberg

[@raylgonzo]

The more tidbits I hear about the BCS/BB world just reaffirms to me that this is truly the greatest show ever written and acted!!

[@BigSmoke-bu6ib]

Cookie cutter.

[@RsChrisG]

Game of Thrones exist unfortunately.

[@BigSmoke-bu6ib]

@@RsChrisG that show is almost as overrated as Breaking Bad.

[@malvo5190]

Sopranos has better writing and acting

[@Shikta-poobah67]

@@malvo5190 I love The Sopranos, but no.

[@markmaleski6489]

I knew all these things about BB and BCS. But I am obsessed with these shows. So good!

[@jsmithers.]

🤡

[@jeanned.6706]

I am blown away by how amazing her acting was as Kim Wexler.

[@fullmoonsociety7463]

Her meltdown scene in the train was so freaking good.

[@myszka7682]

I was watching and quite literally put my hand over my mouth when she did trying to stifle her crying. It was such an amazing performance. Each character was perfection but Rhea really gave me shivers more than once in the show!

[@turolretar]

That moment gave me a good chuckle, I loved that show

[@laangles2002]

Rhea Seehorn is beautiful

[@toomuchdrivetothrive]

Both BB and BCS are the best shows ever at introducing characters. Mike and Gus in BB. Kim, Nacho, and of course Lalo in BCS, all of whom pretty much stole their scenes.

[@CommanderC1997]

Saul in breaking bad

[@joshyaash]

Don Eladio, so much charisma you'll never forget him even after his first appearance.

[@Hellbender21]

Hector in BB

[@Shikta-poobah67]

@@Hellbender21 As much as I love Hector, his initial introduction was kind of underwhelming, or at least very much overshadowed by Tuco. It was later in the series that Hector really got to shine.

[@Shikta-poobah67]

And let’s not forget Wendy!

[@ShinobiDrip999]

She is one of the best actresses alive rn

[@pretty6307]

I hope she will win emmy, she definitely deserves it

[@foxybyproxy]

incredible lady, this rhea. just finished the show and cried like a baby...the show is so heavy. man. adore you, rhea.

[@coolcat8b]

The writing/directing team of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul really have an eye for talent. Aaron Paul was not supposed to stay, same for Jonathan Banks. Those two characters are iconic to the show. Same for Rhea, her Kim is the perfect half to Jimmy's exuberance. What great shows they are.

[@Shikta-poobah67]

We have Sharon Bialy to thank for that.

[@daffyrwt]

Even as a big fan of BB/BCS and know it wasn't as meticulously planned out, I still fall into the trap of believing that they've had to have planned it out at times.

[@PikesvilleAl]

Planned or not planned -the laughable ending ruined it.

[@glassbowl2147]

@@PikesvilleAl 99% of people disagree with that

[@SuperBrosHQ]

@@PikesvilleAl u say it like your opinion isn't unpopular af💀

[@elpiedra1596]

@@SuperBrosHQ Truth is not easily accepted by the masses.

[@baggybones]

@@elpiedra1596 Luckily,this isn't the case in this specific situation and the masses are right 😉

[@loramichael7578]

This woman is such an extraordinary actress!!

[@eugenesant9015]

Saul was this close to killing Carol Burnett.

[@scottm8579]

Its interesting that the producers chose her considering her age. I think it was a wise and very good decision. Most women chosen for roles are usually 20 years younger than the man. She's 50 and Bob is 60.

[@Mattmustdiee]

Ah Rhea, what a wonderful actress. It's a crime that she didn't win anything

[@jpmel1]

still waiting, almost 3 days later for the full interview to be posted

[@matthewhorton2835]

That's incredible. That like, the writers wrote these bland offshoot characters and the actors were so individually good the changed the show into something huge.

[@WurmisD]

She just makes me smile 😊

[@miloshp7399]

She is a beautiful woman. But It's amazing how dressing her up in professional clothes and being an honest character made her super attractive, like a superhero 😀

[@johnward8064]

Such a good actress.

[@conoromalley5317]

Still my favourite show today, Rhea's performance was amazing!

[@doheo33]

Love her. So mad she didn’t win.

[@RashtaEinthisB]

4:30 me watching the show yelling "FLIP HER WALLTTT" 🤣

[@user-fb4sb1zi8g]

She’s so underrated. Amazing actress

[@OconByrd519]

Rhea was robbed of her Emmy!

[@johnoneil6984]

She is a brilliant actor!! Love her!

[@SniffinYaMum]

Actress*

[@shanegallagher3524]

@@SniffinYaMum what? who cares?

[@SniffinYaMum]

@@shanegallagher3524 clearly you do , you commented

[@thomasfoster1899]

Wat a farce no awards. Best acting whole episodes .brill. x. U/ k

[@ethancbaker2002]

@@SniffinYaMumyou’re right but still people know what they mean

[@sifatshams1113]

If RS keeps looking this good in interviews, Better Rim Kim is going to seem less and less like a joke title.

[@squidward1633]

seek help.

[@sifatshams1113]

@@squidward1633 I will. In Kim's posterior.

[@phacelesshero]

outstanding interview. Great job TRES!

[@seen921]

Vince Gillian - the serendipitous genius. I love his storytelling techniques

[@Mrbrycejames]

Wow she is very well spoken

[@The3rdGunman]

Kim Wexler is my favorite female TV character second ONLY to Dana Scully

[@trygveevensen171]

Good news: a new untitled two-season series by Vince Gilligan starring Rhea Seehorn will begin filming in July!

[@derek.seaborn]

She’s a brilliant actor.

[@destroyerofsimps6574]

actress*

[@infinaneek]

So fascinating. BCS is an incredible show. She's absolutely brilliant, too.

[@pedrogoncalo9276]

Amazing actress

[@Philfan107]

R. Eisen. Ricin. Suspicious.

[@judsonkr]

Illuminati Confirmed!

[@angrydalailama6089]

Love me some Kim Wexler.

[@elosogonzalez8739]

Rhea Seahorn was brilliant! Kim could hold her own in another series; MAKE it happen Vince Gilligan! The fans LOVE HER!

[@crazyaces4042]

I'm glad they didn't turn Jimmy into Saul right away.. I think it would have either ruined it or just not have been as successful as it was.

[@owengrady]

god, imagine breaking bad in a world where Saul was the type of person to coldly clean up a body.

[@nataliaalduncin8069]

what a great actress

[@keystohellanddeath]

I think a lot of us already did know this, but it's always nice to hear from Rhea!

[@travisbickle1601]

Michael McKean was extraordinary in BCS.

[@johnashep109]

She is a beautiful woman

[@mr.random6276]

Rhea Seehorn look’s remarkable for her age Better than any person her age I’ve seen

[@SkullMan---]

That is insane, I really didn't know they were making these shows by the seats of their pants! Reminds me of LOST except good.

[@doctormixup5388]

She's such a nerd! I like her even more now. Can't wait to see what she does next. I somehow feel that she would be a good fit for a Tarantino role.

[@JacksonWitsell]

Bob Odenkirk would love that for her 😏

[@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs]

Brah I am so psyched for Vince's next show that is starring her

[@mr.random6276]

My favorite and personal best showcase of what a strong female character is and Vince wrote her beautifully and can’t forget Rhea’s performance If it wasn’t for her we wouldn’t have Kim And she was the best demonstration of what a strong woman is simply due to how she acts She doesn’t talk about it like most other “strong woman characters” nowadays She acts it Which is how it’s supposed to be shown

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

Yeah. Both those series were very well done and the actors they chose were great. .

[@petedog9581]

Mike Ehrmantraut is the greatest happy accident in TV history.

[@elijahdumbidiotstupid8736]

i love the idea of a group of people all working together with their strengths to create a true work of art in this medium at this level of success. usually stuff that’s made with this much passion isn’t nearly as popular

[@BlazingOwnager]

I find it interesting that Kim is almost mirror Skylar. Every single thing that people hated about Skylar is reversed in Kim. As a result the fans really love her character to an almost inverse level of the hate towards Skylar.

[@DL-df3lg]

Wow that’s a really insightful and absolutely correct statement now I notice it.

[@KnezBranimir879]

I just read that she is 50. I thought she was like 35, she looks so young.

[@armancz]

Mind blown, several times. Couldn't stand Wexlers character right to the end when she backed up Jimmy meeting Lalo Salamanca in jail.

[@UltraDoug]

That…..is nuts. Can’t imagine BB without Mike. Wow

[@ajplays-gamesandmusic4568]

In my opinion, the Kristen Ritter Death scene is the moment where Walter officially Breaks Bad. He's the Villain of his own story from that point onward.

[@360Fov]

It's actually kinda shocking just how good Better Call Saul is.

[@Ty_Ranus]

Give Kim her own series!

[@DavidSwinney]

I did know that, as it happens.

[@ObaREX]

The Chuck reveal with Michael McKean as the enemy... It skyrocketed my investment in the series.

[@jmanfunkslice]

Loved her character

[@BertoPlease]

Is the fact we "didn't know" supposed to be that Jonathan Banks replacing Bob Odenkirk in that scene? Isn't that like the second most popular trivia of the show? After "Jesse was supposed to die in S1" lol To me the fact that didn't plan the pink bear is far more intriguing and didn't specifically know about, foreshadowing something that hard with almost no plan is such a dangerous game haha, but given that Vince foreshadowed the machine gun in S5 with no plan either, well we know he'll do that to his own frustration sometimes

[@tanpritsidhu]

As if my favorite character in Breaking Bad almost never got written

[@poznannadrogach9996]

I love her

[@badad0166]

4:51 Meme!

[@aeh5109]

She was so snubbed at the Emmy’s

[@iamgabrielf]

Kim and Mike were fun to watch together.

[@user-gw6zz7xn6v]

She was originally Ray Seehorn before she broke into show biz

[@whatshappening3327]

It doesn’t surprise me. I’m an actor, songwriter, singer, dancer etc..and I can’t imagine having everything mapped out. You always put one foot in front of the other and discover things as you go. The amazing thing about the creative process is fate plays a part. And you realize that you are just a conduit for what the gods have in store…

[@taylorfarr6]

Jane

[@SeeStuDo]

She was the glue that made BCS. Without her, Saul was never Jimmy.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

I don't think anyone outside of the US had heard of Jonathan Banks prior to Breaking Bad. I certainly looked at his IMDB and I don't recognise well over half of it. The stuff I do recognise, he was in maybe 1-2 episodes as a bit part at most.

[@tss3393]

Rhea Seahorn is to BCS what Aaron Paul was to BB. I'm pretty sure Peter and Vince knew that and pairing them together for a scene was a nod to that. I don't think they would have done that otherwise.

[@barak363363]

0:50 interesting

[@MrLuffy9131]

She was nice like even to the extras she introduced herself as the director and we're all wearing masks at the time and I didn't know it was her until I realized she looked familiar lol

[@DjSunexx]

5:25 imagine if that actually would've been where Saul's character would've gone... Breaking Bad would've been a lot darker probably

[@whocareswutmynameis]

It's funny to hear about how the BB writers hadn't yet planned where the pink teddy bear came from (other than the sky) but just thought it would be a cool image and worked it in later. "It's a jumping off point!"