I LOVE LUCY--BOTH Lucy and Desi FIGHTING/Arguing ON-Set After "Little Ricky" was Born!

[@hungfao]

I've heard about the legendary demeanor of Lucy.

[@judd442009]

We'd love to see the bloopers. Too bad those didn't survive.

[@allanl.591]

Didn't know that Mrs. Trumbull's name was originally different. Nice piece of trivia, Rick.

[@marlenepearson3936]

Yay! A Lucy video 😁 Wow! No! Lucy shouldn't have hit Desi on the back like that. But if she was stressed... it probably just happened 😳

[@raamin141]

Lucille Ball was a brilliant creator. The "I Lucy Show " production was stellar and the cast is legendary. It's a reason why this show still ranks in the top 10 of television history.

[@KingElfin]

Hey Rick, You finally got your 160,000 ! Great work and always love your stuff.

[@ricknineg]

Thanks a million!

[@oantech4252]

Great to see Lucy again... 👍 ✔

[@ricknineg]

Lucy has been here all along. I post videos 2-3 times a week so make sure to check us out often

[@MsBackstager]

After at least a decade, I opened up my ILL set (found atop of a wall unit). So now I can follow you along with the bonus bloopers, eps, etc. Also, the precursor to ILL was the radio show MY FAVORITE HUSBAND where many of the eps were rewritten to tv's ILL using the same writers. Exciting.

[@iloveejbgssnoopy]

Yes Julievander good point at that time they did not talk about Postpartum. This episode broke my heart that she was so tired from all she been through.

[@Jared_Wignall]

Wow. I never heard that Lucille Ball hit Desi in the back. I know they didn’t do many retakes on the show, but wow. I can understand her being frustrated with mispronouncing the name, but she didn’t need to hit him. Thank you for the video Rick, I always appreciate the trivia and behind the scenes stuff you tell people about. Hope you’re having a great day and take care!

[@ricknineg]

I know, right?

[@astornic]

Lucy hit Desi Jr. during a taping of Here's Lucy in 1970 w/Jayne Meadows. Lucy was NOT happy that they had to do a retake from the beginning a few times based on a mistake Desi Jr. made more than once.

[@billgreen1861]

​@@astornic Wow ! Now, that's interesting. Where did you hear that ? Do you know what episode ?

[@astornic]

@@billgreen1861 it was w/Jayne Meadows in a not very good episode. Lucy did question Jerry Paris wanting to start again from the beginning of the scene. This was shown on the best of Here's Lucy 📀 s that came out around 2004.

[@bridgetdavis9752]

I had not heard any of this before, thank you. You always do such a great job. When I heard that she made Vivian wear old-style clothes to make herself look younger and more attractive, I realized that Lucille Ball had control issues.

[@ricknineg]

Oh thank you!

[@lauriemclean1131]

So sad they could not have settled their differences in a more positive way but artistic people sometimes are just more "high strung" than the rest of us. Sorry, Rick, they probably did not live by your motto of "Be hopeful," though it is very good advice indeed.

[@roberttelarket4934]

I just saw this episode with Elizabeth Patterson(Mrs. Trumbull) at least 2000 times since the mid-1960's on Pluto yesterday! I wouldn’t trade my friendship . . . Talulah Mertz did her 100th performance. . .

[@bejoyful]

One of my favourites of episodes and never tire of it.

[@roberttelarket4934]

@@bejoyful: Same here! As well I've seen all the episodes as many times for 6 decades or so!

[@lucythecat12]

I love Pluto. The I love Lucy show is on a loop all day long. ❤

[@someoneelseentirely3452]

Spicey Lucy! 😂

[@ricknineg]

🌶

[@suncrazy64]

TY. Great job 🎉

[@jenlemon4294]

I’m a mother of 4 and I can tell you that you are essentially in baby boot camp the first several months after your baby is born. Your hormones are everywhere, you’re exhausted and you don’t see the end of it when you’re in it. Postpartum depression perhaps as well? It’s no excuse for hitting someone, certainly, but it may help us have some empathy for her ❤ Brilliant video as always, Rick :) Thank you 😊

[@anitarosenberg7237]

Great facts about I Love Lucy thanks for sharing

[@jennifergarrett6809]

This was all new territory for everyone. No one knew what to expect or how to act. So it would be hard to say she did things wrong. When you are the 1st to do something you can mess up some. You're on a learning curve.

[@glamorousjay8849]

Happy birthday Lucille Ball!!!!

[@sallyn2393]

I’m thinking she was probably exhausted, not nervous. No excuse for the hitting, but as much as we think we know about their personal lives, I’m sure there’s a lot we don’t. It’s not east at any age to have a baby, but at 41, it has to be much harder. She was probably just as tired as she appeared in that episode!

[@markgallegos8313]

This is very interesting; like everyone I've watched these shows numerous times and I've seen an episode or two where I thought Lucy & Desi weren't getting along for real. There was an episode while they were in Hollywood where they were at the Mocambo Club; and I thought Lucy was genuinely mad at Desi over something going on behind the scenes. In the show Lucy was upset with Ricky regarding their anniversary; but I thought Lucy wasn't acting- she was truly angry with Desi, not the character of Ricky....

[@randytim512]

I wonder if she was going through some post pregnancy depression and perhaps Desi was already stepping out on her. Who knows but good insight as to what happened behind the scenes.

[@kellie-nd1yp]

Good point!

[@Px828]

PPD is the first thing I thought of too. I wouldn't be surprised if Desi had been stepping out the whole time.

[@tigger06]

Yes he cheated on her the majority of their marriage. And postpartum depression is very real.

[@frankfrank9437]

Another great video Rick, definitely didn’t know those facts about this episode. This is actually one of my least favorite episodes of I Love Lucy. It is definitely one that I will turn away from if it comes on. I think all the crying is what gets to me that is so annoying to me. I will not say that about any other Lucy show that I can remember right now. Again, great to hear from you 👍 😊

[@ricknineg]

Thank you! Remember that I post videos 2-3 times a week so I’ve been uploading all along. Come join in the nostalgic fun

[@Robert-lg2bl]

Thank you

[@paulmclaughlin4132]

This was a good segment Rick a lot of things I did not know. Regarding Lucy and her handling nervousness or aggravation. She definitely could have handled her emotions much better and there is never good cause for using physical aggression on another individual to vent your frustration. Also, she should have discussed her feelings with Desi in the dressing area not in front of the crew and audience. Thanks again Rick, we all appreciate your time to bring these to us. Stay well.

[@roberttelarket4934]

Trumbull's other name is similar to the sudden change to Carolyn from Marilyn Appleby.

[@tlw1950]

Lillian Appleby

[@roberttelarket4934]

@@tlw1950: Yes my mistake.

[@lifepathnumbernine6607]

I remember that clown. He was hilarious especially when he brought out that lion and made desi/ricky faint😂

[@jons.6216]

Now you've opened up a can of worms in show trivia, Rick! I stopped the video and looked up The Simmons twins - Richard and Ron Lee! They're still alive at 71! I wonder if anyone in your fans ever actually got to go watch an episode being filmed back in the day! That would have been a blast! Especially if Didi was in the audience doing one of her "Oh-ohs!" I've mentioned before that Hogan's Heroes has done something similar with General Burkhalter's name by sometimes calling him "Bulkharter"!

[@ricknineg]

They are still alive! Isn’t that cool?

[@roberttelarket4934]

The Simmons and Mayer twins are more than likely the oldest(by appearance not by age) last surviving cast members. As for the crew it’s possible someone born in 1928 or earlier is still alive. Janet Waldo one of the teens infatuated with Ricky(The Young Fans episode) was next to first. She died in 2016. Note Bart Braverman(Giuseppe) from Lucy waiting for a phone call from New York City episode from Little Ricky is still still alive and perhaps others kids from The Enchanted Forest as well.

[@roberttelarket4934]

@jons.6216: The "twins" from the Amateur Hour, Sammy Ogg and David Stollery are possibly earlier and first in appearance(1952) of kids on I Love Lucy. Both are still alive in their 80's

[@elizabethharrison7306]

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[@jillmacchitelli6473]

This episode is one of my favorites. I always thought Vivian mispronounced Mrs. Trumbull’s name. I love how this episode ended. Thanks Rick!

[@julievanderleest]

I would think that the emotions of returning to work, still dealing with postpartum, likely lack of sleep, Lucy deserved to be cut some slack. She put so much on herself and people expected so much out of her.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

A strong woman who broke down barriers for women!

[@bejoyful]

My first thought was the similar; hormones and separation anxiety in leaving her baby while knowing she had little choice and had to return to the show.

[@julievanderleest]

@@bejoyful exactly. Women certainly have to be stronger than most realize. Especially working mothers, but all mothers honestly. Lucy was quite a tough cookie and she became quite the role model for other working mothers,which back then was pretty uncommon. She pioneered a lot for Hollywood and the society as a whole.

[@christophercruz8359]

​@@lazyhomebody1356Oh give me a break!

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@christophercruz8359 Fragile male ego?

[@ddavenpAZ]

Sure, Lucy breaking Desi’s spinal column everyone remembers. Mrs. Trumble’s real name being Anna Mae Bullock, no one but me seems to have remembered that. 😉 And you gotta love Fred’s hair in the photos you showed of him holding the baby! Even the baby’s face was like “what the…” ? 🤣 All kidding aside, I wasn’t aware of any of this, but I am now! Great video and greater behind the scenes info! You deserve a pat on the back! (Oops sorry Desi. 🫢)

[@russC13]

Great items you pick up on! I thought Lucy did I love Lucy to help her keep an eye on Desi?

[@ricknineg]

I wouldn’t wager so much on that. They wanted to do a show and be together and not apart. The show in LA was the best way to do so

[@joangravitz3280]

​@ricknineg she wanted to keep an eye on desi. When he traveled with his band, he was a womanizer

[@gerrydeviller1089]

Great Video! Congratulations on exceeding your goal of 160K subscribers!!!

[@FrancescaA00]

Wow…mind blown about Mrs. Trumble’s name. Desi was generally mentioned more negatively because of his behavior off set. It’s interesting that she had a bit of a difficult side too. Which other actors have said due to her being a perfectionist.

[@xander6464]

For better or worse, rank hath its privileges, and when you're Lucy, you can hit Ricky all you want for any reason you want. Personally, I think she should have managed her anger better but history shows that in the long run, she didn't do any damage to herself, the show or Desi.

[@renafan3333]

I tend to think this is something that has become overblown over the years. A 60 something year long game of telephone. Like Vivian Vance and William Frawley hating each other.

[@ricknineg]

This is quite possible. Yet, a hard slap on the back was seen by many. It’s up to us to see if that was right or not

[@joeanderson9852]

❤

[@anthonee293]

Maybe Desi's serial cheating had something to do with it.

[@tigger06]

Yes. And has anybody heard of postpartum depression ?? Let's cut Lucy some slack. She was dealing with a lot. Cheating Desi was not the least of it, and, after stuffing it down as much as she had to, wouldn't be unusual to finally just blow up.

[@Pandalynn369]

Lucy should have handled her nervousness different. It wasn't nobodys fault that she was nervous when she came back. And she shouldn't have blamed her mistakes on her husband. Wasn't his fault and it wasn't her fault. Just something that happens sometimes.

[@UTUVIS]

True indeed. Their generation was very different. Feelings weren't often a topic of discussion and this led to misguided confrontation as well as wrongly channeled resentment.

[@Avery_4272]

While I can understand Lucy feeling frustrated and perhaps embarrassed because she found herself being a little rusty when she returned to the show - and although some people here have commented that perhaps she hit Desi due to postpartum hormones, the fact remains that millions of women experience those post-delivery hormonal fluctuations and yet they don't hit their husbands! I am so very grateful to enjoy Lucille Ball's immense talents, but my feeling is that it's never okay to take out one's frustrations on another person, much less hit them. 100% not okay. And no double standard: I feel the same way about what Lucy did as I would if the scenario had been reversed, and Desi had hit her in the back.

[@joeyrivful]

I had no idea that this happened, how interesting.

[@bejoyful]

Rick very interesting to hear Lucy would physically react in front of an audience or staff. I attribute this to her coming back too soon to work after having a baby in her 40s and knowing she had little choice.

[@anonymous78546]

While Lucille Ball and her husband had their personal disagreements, which is common in marriages, those events occurred over 71 years ago. Rather than pass judgment, I believe it's best to simply appreciate the brilliance and entertainment she brought through her iconic television show.

[@MsBackstager]

Too bad that Lucy didn't announce to the audience beforehand HEY EVERYONE, I'M A LITTLE RUSTY SO PLEASE BARE WITH ME.

[@ricknineg]

😂

[@faulltw]

To answer your question, I think everyone would agree violence in the work place is wrong, but she is human and who knows what her hormones were like at this point. Today she would have been removed and lived the reminder of her life in shame.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

😂

[@lazyhomebody1356]

There would have been rehab in her future

[@kellie-nd1yp]

Lucy was still probably pretty tired and she had been at home with her kids and then she’s back to the show . This isn’t a light episode for her either she has to tend a fussy baby and she and Ethel fight only temporarily of course. As someone pointed out she may have had some postpartum issues and dealing with marital issues and working together. The very thing that kept them together starts to cause extra stress. I always thought though with everything else going on she planned a bridge luncheon was a little odd . She and Ethel are even doing separate ones. Yeah the new hairstyle didn’t work.

[@ricknineg]

I did notice she seeemd overall a bit more grumpy during her takes in this. It is subtle but her mood was different even in the “happy scenes”

[@kellie-nd1yp]

@@ricknineg she was good at showing the frazzzled feeling of taking care of a newborn.

[@lucythecat12]

Hi rick 👋🏻 new subscriper here, I haven't gone through the 340 videos you have on your channel yet for I love lucy so please forgive me if you already made a video about their different addresses. Rick, they always use East 68th street and Circle 7 2099 but their apartment number was 3D, have you noticed this? Many times when an address is given they use the same two addresses.

[@wendykornfein3337]

Very interesting. Yes, she was wrong, slapping Desi.

[@ricknineg]

Yes, it’s crazy to see how many are trying to justify it

[@MRaadesign]

It's been well documented over the decades of how Lucy and Desi didn't get along. Even this early in the show. Same with Lucy and Vivian. They played friends on tv by not when the cameras stopped rolling.

[@kevindalby520]

In this episode children are not allowed in the building. But when Ricky and Lucy are trading apartments with another tenant those daughter just got married, why was that tenant allowed to have kid in the building?

[@Avery_4272]

That's a good observation and question! Hmm, maybe the Bensons had lived elsewhere until their daughter was grown up, and maybe the daughter had come to live with them in the Mertz's building for a while during (or after) her college years. So technically, the Benson's daughter never lived in the Mertz's building as a child. That could be one possibility.

[@silvereagle2061]

Well, if you watch the recent film, they had lots of friction on set and not all Lucy's issues. The "Red" scare, and of course Ricky's "associations" with huh, other women.

[@mrshuxley1024]

I thought I have seen every I love lucy episode! I don't even remember this one. But I don't think she meant it.

[@cee8mee]

Post-partem depression and new mommy fog.

[@nancymensch1087]

She just had a baby. She could have been suffering from post partum depression and her job was to be funny. That might have been very hard to do. I know they had issues in their marriage with his infidelity. Who knows what she was feeling as it is hard to know as we weren’t there. That can be a lot for someone to go through.

[@judd442009]

"Spicy Lucy" should never have engaged in "spousal abuse." Fortunately, that type of behavior is no longer acceptable.

[@SusanDiPaolo-g6s]

I don't want to judge her behavior towards Desi. Post partum fatigue is unbearable! I think her nervousness coming back was to be expected. I hated those "fake" baby cries but loved this episode.

[@belantww]

She was definitely wrong to hit him. If the roles had been reversed, that would have been career-destroying.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

If Desi had just had a baby?!

[@belantww]

@@lazyhomebody1356if he hit her hard on the back in front of an audience. Although it would have been pretty amazing if Desi Arnaz gave birth since he was, to my understanding, a biological male.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@belantww Lol, just joking. Yes, if Desi had whacked Lucy, he'd have been in big trouble!

[@roberttelarket4934]

As well how does Lucy pull that tablecloth off without damaging the dishes on it as others magicians have done elsewhere? What's the physics behind it?

[@mamas.8259]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@paulakotowski4567]

I totally believe that she was hard to deal with at times ! Everyone blames Desi for their split, but she was a perfectionist , to a fault, and most likely, very demanding. So in Desi's defense, I believe it was uncalled for . Lucy was being a brat .

[@JoannaCubana]

Well said. I agree. 💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Hey, sleep deprivation will make you crazy...

[@yukon065]

I'm obviously in the minority, but I wasn't one of those who "loved Lucy". I found the character incredibly annoying. Yeah, I know it was a TV character, but imagining being married to her is enough to drive me nuts! I was a Fred Mertz fan:).

[@ricknineg]

I loved Fred Mertz and still do!

[@christophercruz8359]

I agree, and for the very reason that you cite. And, I, too, to this day, only watch the show because of the character of Fred Mertz.

[@juliemcmahan1207]

Oooohhhh, I didn't know that about Lucy. Nobody should hit anyone, no matter how you're feeling. Thank you Rick, for all your hard work!!

[@stephanibaldwin281]

Hi Rick... Not being completely savvy with all things KZbin, I am not sure how to connect with you regarding a completely new idea, so I will do it through the comments. I am currently watching the episode of the Lucy Show where the fang is looking for four $500 dollar bills and am up to the part with the elephant standing on one of them. Before this viewing, I have never noticed a man standing behind the front left leg of the elephant and wondered if you could shed some light on why. Could it be the trainer or...?

[@gailwatson4927]

She just had a baby! Give her a break! Maybe she did not get much sleep the night before. She looks exhaled. Thank you for the information.

[@GabrielHR55]

Wasn't Dezi unfaithful while she was pregnant?

[@FreyaTait]

You don't release your nervousness on someone else's body. No, she should not have hit Arnaz

[@mewregaurdhissyfit7733]

Lucy was NOT a natural red head, of course........but she had the temprament of a bonafide red head!!! No, I think Lucy should have pulled Desi off stage and had it out with him. If I were there, I would have separated them and asked what Lucy was so mad about. Rich people don't scare me. They're just people with money. They're still people. She should have short scenes in the beginning when she came back, just to acclimate herself back to the stage and show.....and not just jump in with both feet. She went through a lot having a kid, and that can wear you out.

[@ricknineg]

I really like your thinking here. This is one of the best way to have approached it

[@paulsarnik8506]

I thought she was "with child" never "pregnant" with Lucie Arnez for real? 🤓😎✌🏼

[@AdeleLarsen-zf8my]

She was wrong as much as people put Desi down he was kind ,I went back to work after 3 months

[@joangravitz3280]

Lucille Ball had desi Jr by scheduled cesarean section. Big surgery. They did the surgery the same day little ricky was born on the series. His birth was headline news. Give the woman a break. No one knows what their home life was really like. And she just had a baby

[@GrupoChucumite]

Rick, there's another example of them being a bit argumentative in season 6 episode "The Dancing Star", when Ricky is not believing that Lucy danced with Van Johnson. Lucy slips and says "I did, I vanced with dan" and then she kind of giggles and says "I danced with Van Johnson". Then Ethel says "She did I saw her" and Fred says "Whatever Lucy has, it's catching." Then the phone rings and Desi walks over to get it and he mumbles "Vanced with Dan, what's that? She's gone, completely." That is a bit of a stinging response to her flub and obviously is not scripted.

[@ricknineg]

I think he’s just ragging on her a bit. She laughs it off

[@GrupoChucumite]

@@ricknineg Yeah, argumentative was the wrong word.

[@eloise22422]

Unfortunately Desi was an alcoholic and womanizer so does not surprise me she often got angry with him. Thats why she divorced him.

[@joshwright2075]

i think what happened was lucy and desi fighting on the set of was desi made things worse on her first time coming back after having desi jr.

[@christophercruz8359]

Whatever the scenario, no excuse. Do your job, be professional, and that's it.

[@michael6185]

What is your source for this supposed 'fighting'? I hope to see an answer.

[@SusanSlack-j8f]

Sorry I love Lucille Ball .but that's uncalled for..there's no excuse for that..

[@harrysmithson9122]

My thoughts are >>> This episode was filmed over seventy years ago (70). So, exactly how do you know this?? All the parties are LONG SINCE DEAD!! So, yI guess ou are making this shit up as you go along. Shame on you.

[@ricknineg]

You’re not only hilarious but wrong. Keep up the positivity buddy!

[@tealelliott3870]

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