Ride Modes for Electric Unicycles - What is Hard, Medium & Soft modes?

[@DoussardDoug]

Great to explain the features on these devices as there is no documentation for the Tesla V2 I got and I enjoy knowing all the details of a device. Nice job. 👍🏻

[@BigChiefWiggles]

Man those pads on the Tesla though, whoever designed them should be shot at dawn!

[@stefanclooneykannika]

@@BigChiefWiggles c'mon, theyre excellent when leaning hard around corners, but i dont squeeze the sides when riding. Soft mode is fun for braking, especially down hills

[@BigChiefWiggles]

@@stefanclooneykannika Maybe Im doing it wrong but after two days the pain from those things is just unreal!

[@stefanclooneykannika]

@@BigChiefWiggles try placing your feet on the outer sides of the pedals a bit more. There is a tendency to want to cling to the sides of the Tesla in the beginning stages because it can be quite twitchy. It hurt me a little at the start on low (25psi) tyre pressure which makes it abit sluggish and harder to maneuver at low speed so a tendency to cling the sides is developed. Also soft mode with the delay i think is harder to manage at low speed so just try hard mode with 30-5 psi. I run 40psi. Practice penduluming in a hallway with the tesla not rubbing against your legs. Hold the walls both sides, send the wheel infront, bring it back to behind, repeat and when its slightly behind let it drive you forward a meter or so then re-establish firm stationary contact on the wall with your arms and let the wheel go infront to brake to a stop. Repeat ad infinitum until it feels natural. You are also learning braking at the same time.

[@douglashughes2331]

Now I will have to try all these modes, I had been leaving it alone. Thanks.

[@GiffysChannel]

Greetings from the Southern Maine EUC group. Great explanation!

[@UStride]

@4:36 while the difference in modes is more noticeable in 84V or less motor types, the higher the torque, the less noticeable the pedal rocking is...example, medium mode on the MSP 2500W motor feels like hard mode on the 84V MSX.

[@RobUKTH]

Excellent explanation, gonna try switching from medium to soft again. Thank you and stay safe!

[@ivanmorales3265]

I've only ever used hard mode, I'm going to try the medium mode now because of this video. Soft mode is out of the question for me, I've never been a boat captain

[@LaggerSVK]

I think what nobody mentions is that in hard mode you can overload the wheel more easily. Also in hard mode there is basically no EUC feedback of how loaded it is. Its just a steady platform until you fall. This is something I would expect to have in future wheels. Not just tiltback that kicks in when some criteria is fulfilled but wheel tuned in such a way that it directly feedbacks you by tilt how much it is loaded. So in my opinion some tilt is beneficial even with the drawback that it is less sporty.

[@noelwebley1970]

Thanks for explaining it in detail for everybody

[@ritchyrich7106]

Newbie here. I notice the hard mode gave me foot cramping especially on long rides. The soft mode I prefer more because it feels like you are flying and riding with ease.

[@critzlez8593]

I agree. my foot aches less with a softer setting

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Good vid👍 Put my MSP in HM and never looked back. Cheers

[@UStride]

Hahaha hilarious

[@WILSONsHobbies]

Thank you U-stride. Very informative. I agree , kingsong feels different than gotway wheel. You can tell the difference on a gotway but with the kingsong not so much.

[@UStride]

Sure man

[@DontKeeptheFaith]

This is the best description of the three ride modes I've seen yet; required viewing for new riders. Do you think soft mode is easier on the battery? Do you think it creates a cut-out buffer? Seems to me that it might do both of those things.

[@UStride]

That's a good point actually. Inherently soft mode doesn't encourage hard riding so it's very possible, yeah. But on the other side if you're pushing your wheel in hard mode during acceleration you will know because the wheel almost lags behind. Finally hard braking like emergency braking can cause the motor to cutout actually because the mode won't respond with the immediate response you need during an emergency

[@DontKeeptheFaith]

@@UStride You seem to be suggesting that the motor may struggle to catch up to the demands of an aggressive rider in hard mode and that this will indicate that you are pushing the wheel too hard. So that indication would be a sign that it's time to back off, hence, it's like a buffer. Interesting. I might play around with that idea.

[@UStride]

@@DontKeeptheFaith so it won't struggle to keep up with the demand in hard mode, but what I meant is that in hard mode for an aggressive rider you're more likely to reach 80% output much quicker at which point (assuming your battery isn't low) the motor will harshly dip forward just before cutout, giving you clear feedback that you need to back off. You can back off at this point and the motor will regain it's power and balance but if you're an aggressive rider who leans forward hard and overtorq the wheel, it's possible you might not able to back off in time due to overleaning, because at that point you would have missed the opportunity to pull back.

[@coolhawk2003]

Seems great for the opposite rider too. help them put more lean and get more out of it . Maybe a lighter weight person it may help them to use the full power of the wheel. Just a thought

[@hothandzhammond9572]

appreciate the video, i was wondering what’s the difference 👍🏽

[@carmelolennon6259]

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[@nikolasadrien5284]

@Carmelo Lennon definitely, I have been watching on KaldroStream for years myself :)

[@gibsonkellen444]

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[@dylanryan5125]

@Carmelo Lennon yup, I've been watching on Kaldrostream for since november myself :D

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

I have an old school Z10 that I have 200 miles on and everyone that has one needs to experiment with each of the 4 settings the wheel has. It's a personal thing and almost no review on KZbin of the Z10 covers this much. It's a totally different ride when you play with the settings. At 60 years old I started riding in January and this is my first wheel.

[@Sscott1985]

Can’t see why anybody would like soft mode and that much dip with the pedals... good video / explanation. Thanks

[@coolhawk2003]

Hills or uneven ground . Be awesome in that way. Maybe carving the roads up to like the lean on bike or skateboard

[@adeydabomb]

Tq for this info bro. All this time i wonder what is the different between those mode. Now i know.. 👍👍👍

[@whileistillcan9338]

I have the Tesla V2 and if I'm on a longer cruise I'll use soft or medium, but for playing around in a park or having to weave around things I run hard mode sure to the lower pedals and it lessens the risk of scraping the pedals and dumping me off the front.

[@UStride]

Exactly. Well said

[@vertigev]

that's the info I was looking for, thanks!

[@Wheel_fast_euc_rider]

When I first got my Sherman I put it in hard mode... I tried soft mode and was too new to know or feel the difference due to all the other thing I was trying to concentrate on... lol... now a month or so of riding I switched it to soft mode and was immediately wanting hard mode again... haha. Soft is sort of petal dip exaggerated for me... and the sherman already has some dipping feeling with tight turns anyways.... so soft for me makes it feel like its trying to almost lift-thrust me forward with turns... I'd rather have the immediate torque on hard mode... less input-more exhilarating

[@UStride]

Exactly. Well said.

[@Wheel_fast_euc_rider]

@@UStride love your videos man. Always very articulated and informative. You among a few other riders are the reason for my Sherman purchase AND S-18 purchase...#oops

[@LAUS-DEO-HAWAII]

I NOTICED AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR VIDEO, YOU MENTIONED THE TILT OF YOUR PEDALS. I NOTICED FRONT FULL UP AND REAR DOWN. THIS IS HOW I LEARNED ON MY SHERMAN. ALSO, HELPS IN 45 DEG. HILLS UP AND GOING DOWN. COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS HAPPENS? SPEED WOBBLES ARE ALSO MORE CONTROLLED.

[@Index-o1234]

Very informative...Thanks👍🏼 Sherman arrived 😊

[@UStride]

Awesome congratulations

[@tomasserrano8734]

@@UStride Thanx now the lessons begin.

[@Index-o1234]

@@tomasserrano8734 Thankfully your a good teacher.

[@robertcallaway3821]

I like medium mode. In soft mode, I can’t break fast enough. In hard mode, I lose some agility. This video will definitely help a lot of beginners to understand their wheel better.

[@UStride]

You're right about not being able to stop hard on soft mode. Once I was on soft mode and tried to stop extremely hard on an emergency and the wheel couldn't hold me up, it literally fell from under me. No I didn't fall, but it was interesting

[@stefanclooneykannika]

@@UStride yeah it stops hard when the pedals lean back, you just need a moment so anticipate the delay. If doing alot of emergency braking maybe going too fast for soft and hard mode is better for you. Especially when tripping over triple manhole covers, uh "personhole" covers.

[@ktrails]

So, given a large/powerful wheel like a Lynx, which mode would benefit a beginner best? (Street tire, 28-30 PSI, hard pack dirt/grass surface)?

[@justinspirational]

Awesome video! Subscribed. About to get my first EUC.. The Gotway RS high torque.. No EUC experience but almost two years on OneWheels.. Which mode do you think is best for beginners? Medium, especially as my wheel will be 100 volt wheel?

[@UStride]

I would say medium and maybe hard. But highly recommend medium to start because you have a very powerful motor IMO and congrats man.

[@justinspirational]

@@UStride thanks for your reply and yes that makes sense though I can see how fun soft could be with experience and the gotway rs 100v wheel I'm getting

[@Tennouseijin]

Would it make sense to have different modes for acceleration and deceleration? Like soft acceleration but hard breaking?

[@ivanmorales3265]

I think some wheels allow braking and accelerating variable percentages. I believe I saw a wrongway vid where he was configuring stuff like that in the app

[@TutosBricolages]

Well explained, when you tried the Kingsong what firmware was it on? V1.xx (a lot of motor whistling) or v2.xx (quiet motor and very hard pedals), because on the kingsong v1.xx the pedals are very soft even in hard mode and i didn't like it, with the 2.xx update there is has more torque at low speed than on the MSX on the 18xl, the pedals are very hard, similar to the medium of the MSX in hard on KS I didn't think so but I'm riding a kingsong now, after the Tesla and the MSX, I wish you to try again a ks with the update is much better

[@UStride]

I'll have to check

[@ozramblue117]

Do you know how this relates to the inmotion driving modes? Options are “off-roading” and “commuting”.

[@alexanderroger2254]

Good explanation! As always. Thanks

[@paulh4866]

What modes do you guys like on the V11? Street Riding?

[@kmg501]

This is great, can you do another video specifically for the Kingsongs if you have one?

[@UStride]

Sure

[@kmg501]

@@UStride Fantastic, thank you!

[@CrossroadWater]

U-Stride, Got my RS 19 HT with Molicell batteries.. and my first Begode / Gotway.. I can't find my original comments about this video, but I could write a book about the difference between KingSong and Begode riding modes.. I'm making this comment now, so I can add to it later, I could write several paragraphs on it. Any new wheel is different, but it should be explored.. the different riding modes King song vs Begode.. edit comimg. P.S. As of right now I think I like them both, but very different.. there's a lot of movement in the wheel (back and fourth from the center of the wheel), on any mode, of a Begode wheel, vs a Kingsong, at least the vs 16x.. The 16x stays perfectly flat.

[@HUNmotyon]

Great vid! Do you have a video about pedal angles? What angels are best for what speed etc. I noticed that MSX and MSP tilta back a bit at higher speeds.

[@UStride]

It depends on your requirements, but I ride at 3.2 to 4

[@HUNmotyon]

@@UStride thanks! I just purchased a 2021 (84V) version of the MSX. I don’t know what exactly Chinese guys did but this wheel is almost like a 100V MSP. Motor is 2500W, uses a new motherboard, strong AF and starts beeping at 36mph (I am 211lbs). Unbelievable.

[@UStride]

@@HUNmotyon I know. One of my buddies told me about it. I think I might get one

[@thelordsauron]

How does the Sherman compare to Gotway with their different modes?

[@UStride]

Um it's similar like very very similar, nor sure if that's because sherman guys are from gotway

[@thelordsauron]

@@UStride Right on! Thanks for the reply U-Stride. That’s good to hear. I just put a deposit down on one a couple days ago; can’t wait to hop on the beast! Plan on putting some serious mileage on it once the warmer weather returns.

[@TheFabri69]

Great video thanks. I have v5f and I will get Msp 100v , what you think if I’ll have hard mode maybe the pedal don’t move so much and will look like more v5f .

[@UStride]

The pedals won't move so much

[@BunnyslippersEUC]

Experiment with the settings/modes and with different stances. Ride technical. Allmost payday. I want my wheel.

[@lawlaxinaakayourfavorite]

Hard mode all the way! As long as you have a solid and comfortable pad setup, softmode begins to feel irrelevant

[@lawlaxinaakayourfavorite]

Hardmode turning is optimal buddy! Toe scraping while powering through turns is a bad day especially with the softer modes

[@DamianLewd]

So does this apply to the Sherman?

[@UStride]

Yes

[@MrSlice36]

Hard, fast, and 4 degrees is the only way for U-Stride!

[@UStride]

Haha. Most def

[@douglashughes2331]

@@UStride 4 degrees in which direction?

[@UStride]

@@douglashughes2331 backwards pedal tilt. It might be to high for you if it's your first time, maybe try 2 or 3 to start off

[@frozenwalkway]

Hard mode feels much better to me as a new rider imo

[@timzstr]

Hard mode front pedal angled downward a bit is how i ride my msp

[@UStride]

Yikes. Why do you ride like that?

[@timzstr]

@@UStride easier to ride you dont have to lean at all just press with your feet to go ..when i brake i lean ....leaning forward when riding fast just seems dangerous to me i aint about that life...staying crash proof i dont wear gear when i ride

[@UStride]

@@timzstr gotcha

[@DamianLewd]

Caribbean?

[@UStride]

That's where I was born yes. Dominica (not the republic)

[@vincentkim2721]

Good ^^*

[@LAUS-DEO-HAWAII]

I AM NOW AT: 12,900 MILES ON MY SHERMAN IN MEDIUM MODE, I AM NOW GOING TO TRY HARD MODE.

[@soupnazi81]

How do you like hard mode?

[@LAUS-DEO-HAWAII]

@@soupnazi81 I SPENT ABOUT 6 MONTHS ON HARD MODE ON MY SHERMAN. EVERDAY I RIDE 55 MPH. AS FAST AS I CAN AT LEAST 5 TIMES PER DAY AND HOLD IT FOR ABOUT 2 MINUTES EACH. ON HARD MODE: MANY TIMES IT WANTED TO THROW ME OFF, OR TILT BACK TOO QUICK FOR ME. I PUT IT BACK TO MEDIUM FOR THE TYPE OF DRIVING I DO. I WAS PUSHING TOO MANY HIGH AMPS ON HARD MODE. REMEMBER: I RIDE BARE FOOT, NO HELMET, NO PAD, NO CHEST PROTECTION. ONLY WRIST GUARDS AND KNEE BRACES. I AM NOW ALMOST AT 14,000 MILES.

[@soupnazi81]

@@LAUS-DEO-HAWAII good to know. I only ride slow ar max 30kmh and find accelerating uphill weak on medium mode compared to my V10F. Ill try hard mode uphills

[@houseofjob]

LOL, nice attempt at explaining modes, but it's waaaaay more complicated than this. And the MSP is not the best wheel to demonstrate modes unfortunately, as the soft on it is tuned very hard, ie. even different models of Gotways will differ in mode response.

[@UStride]

Just realized it's you lol. Last post deleted

[@jamesm217]

@houseofjob can you explain it please? i know you guys used to ride the monster on soft mode and never understood how you got more torque that way.

[@houseofjob]

@@jamesm217 I don't want to encroach on Jediah's channel here, but if you search the EUC forums for soft mode under my user, I have a lot of explanatory posts on this.

[@UStride]

@@houseofjob feel free man. I don't care lol. In my experience with these modes, soft mode isn't for torque. For maximum Torque you want hard mode, with atleast a 2 degree backwards pedal angle tilt. I ride with 3 degrees in medium mode on my MSP and 4 degrees backwards in hard mode on the less powerful 84V MSX.

[@sabbis]

I ride the MSP mostly soft mode, both on and off road. But I feel it kind of calls for the style of "smooth is fast". Like if I loose momentum before a step incline on the trails, my friend will easily pass me with his medium or hard mode. If you need instant torque and alot of it, it feels like the wheel will lean over to much to fast.