Northern California Backcountry Discovery Route Documentary Film (CABDR-North)

[@Outbackmotortek]

We’re to honoured to be a supporter of this exciting BDR route. Thank you for the opportunity and keep doing great things for the moto community.

[@downbytheriver501]

Your crash bars are awesome. Saved my T7 several times and the tough bastards didn’t even dent. Well done guys.

[@bfe671]

The people who own The Brewing Lair are my neighbors. Susan was in the clip of you guys buying your kombucha or whatever that was. Great people and great business, good to see the support!

[@WillFowler-fi1sg]

Another stellar film by Sterling Noren

[@AkaBull]

I always appreciate watching a BDR film, all the hard work and dedication that goes into making this possible. Well done team 👏

[@byronchesebro3125]

That Northern California BDR looks like one of the best .....congratulations to all the BDR staff that put in the blood , sweat and tears to make it all possible and share it with the rest of us!

[@JS-nf1sn]

Awesome. There is an irony that a DR650 is still probably the best bike for the job. LOL. That's the cool thing about the sport, $40K or $5k, everyone gets to go.

[@cinnreds18]

The DR 650 is honestly the best bike for every BDR across the nation.

[@dw5523]

I just bought a Vstrom 1050 as my two up touring bike, now I'm looking for a DR650 as my solo bike. Don't tell my wife! Apparently the answer to my problems is Suzuki, lol.

[@dbrooks977]

@@dw5523 I have a DR650 and DL650...both are great bikes.

[@sailingaeolus]

@@dw5523 I love my DRZ-400s. Not great for multi-day adventures but outstanding for day trips. And the day after I can still walk, unlike a few hours on my RMZ-450 track bike.

[@danhelwig]

Or even $0K, these are the best horse routes, just takes longer but a lot less gas.

[@HereIAmThereIWas]

The man who always shares historical facts is great! would love to have someone like that on a ride. I always stop to read historical markings and like to appreciate the historical significance of a area.

[@zeromotorcycles]

Absolutely epic route and it was such a treat to join on this filming expedition. Thank you for everything you do, BDR!

[@ComfyDadShoes]

Beautiful ride! Shoutout to the hero bikes, the dr650 / tw200! Dr650 is absolutely goated!

[@jessbailey6718]

Love these BDR films and the editing in this with the drone shots are unreal!!!

[@SeanLohr]

We all love you Noraly! Focus on yourself and your healing. We'll all be here to see your huge comeback. Take care of yourself awesome lady and, as always, thank you for bringing us along.

[@j_k9643]

Wrong video. Noraly was in Africa until her crash. This is Northern CA.

[@davea9502]

Nice to see a DR650 on the BDR film!!

[@drzrider3440]

Thanks again great video and made my night at work here at Boeing much nicer to sit and watch this the same day my buddy just bought a 2023 drz400. So getting in the motocamp state of mind. Taking him on the Idaho BDR this August.

[@kennethvernonprivate]

Hey All, and especially Sterling! Wow great great great production. These productions just get better and better! All the best from Canada eh!

[@SterlingNoren]

Thank you!

[@eddwil7]

Awesome! The BDR I have been waiting for. I live south of Reno, NV so it's in my backyard. Great job!

[@TwoHawksHunting]

I like everything about these BDR rides except the sudden crashes. I'm glad nobody was seriously injured. Keep up the great work. 27:27

[@brandenhellman4381]

I love the crashes. It’s real.

[@timlubbers2884]

I look at as a precautionary tale…

[@mullins6429]

Congratulations guys and girls. Fantastic video. Such spectacular scenery. 👍🇦🇺

[@xSkidMarx]

yall kicked ass with this one, my favorite route film yet

[@aaronlegan6860]

So good! This film actually makes me want to ride it! Good job, as always!

[@goldyg6511]

Outstanding VLOG many routes I've been on for years without knowing all the history, impressive on your giant machines I wouldn't even consider, thanks much for this production and let's hope the best for the future of our sport and speedy recovery for that wrist and leg !

[@Bbanker1974]

Thanks so much guys for all of your work!

[@CaliradoKid]

Wow! What a trip! I don't have an adventure bike but I mountain bike in some of those areas frequently. Now you've got me looking into Yamaha T7's so I can do this trail! Amazing.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Very cool to see BMW and Zero supporting these projects! Zero gets a lot of hate from the "gatekeepers" about range, but they're out there with you guys literally proving their products. Doing these routes with the big bikes and electric bikes pretty much proves they can be done no matter what you're riding.

[@TheJvissing]

Yes Zero is out there. But still way too short a range to Even consider them.

[@traviscothre]

unless you wanna actually camp and ride unsupported like real adv people do. We don't have support trucks and hotels every night lol

[@DirtObseXXion]

@traviscothre I'm with y'all, but BDR being a non-profit needs some support to cover the production costs.. Just think it's cool that Zero steps up.. Even if there are some obvious drawbacks to electric and it isn't the experience a lot of folks want.. At least they've proved the bikes can do it, even if you're not quite off the grid..

[@traviscothre]

@@DirtObseXXion as much advertising as they do for bmw you'd think they're sponsored. also plenty of people on the youtubes put together adv moto movies without all the "overhead" and "production costs" I'm always a little skeptical of how "non-profit" these orgs are. I appreciate the routes but the movies have always been a little inauthentic to me. Maybe cuz I'm more of a dirtbag adv'r or a different generation.

[@ianmoore1312]

@@traviscothreI think it’s the disconnect between ADV riders going out with whatever we can reasonably fit in the bike and going in a group of 2-5 vs these massive parades with support trucks, and hotels and stuff

[@chrishaddad5362]

The guy from Zero was super cool and a great rider.

[@ronwest90277]

Trevor Doniak, and he is!

[@xjcrawlin91]

Can't wait to ride this on the ol v strom 😁

[@derrikmiller33]

Same. I need to stiffen up the springs on the wee strom first. I rode through Foresthill a few months ago. I bottomed out way to easily.

[@Mugochap]

What a beautiful route. Great video quality too.

[@fredricabrams7081]

Very well put together guys. Absolutely a blast to watch. Be nice to ride one day hopefully when my body is working 100%. Thank you. Looking forward to watching more videos

[@JMotoAdventures]

Thanks for another great route. The filming continues to improve as well. I wish yall would have camped though. It always helps me in planning my trip.

[@surferbummg]

Great route and enjoyable group of riders. The variety of motorcycles used is as plus and gives good knowledge to future equipment for riders. My go to bike that I've used on the BDRs is a KTM 690 Enduro R with a Rekluse clutch. Paired up with soft bags, it can haul all your stuff for camping off the bike. And if you're moteling it, then go even quicker😉

[@rawbert-uz2kv]

Excellent, as a desert racer, unless racer stay back...just saying, and those bikes are wonderful, but your putting them and you to the test. Ok so falling is confirmation. Enjoy, great vid.

[@YeahGroovyBaby]

Thanx so much for making this BDR and beautiful documentary, it's really inspiring!!! Fun to see, very nice route and scenery!!! I'm living in the Netherlands and will make time to come over to ride and enjoy!!! Thanx to all of you!! Btw, because of my level of experience will take a lighter mototbike, and am practicing. Cu!

[@MyATVlife]

Thank you all for everything you do, and Thank You for the new route. 👍

[@Porsche996driver]

Serious tracks! Some minor victims but great job capturing it all and telling the story Sterling! 1:04:45 Love how the GS just torques its way out. Good one all!

[@SterlingNoren]

Thanks!!!

[@dankorolyk5917]

Another great production, and very entertaining.Too bad about the injuries but it looks like an epic adventure.

[@Graybeard_]

Between Downieville and Sierra City there is a USFS road that runs north through Poker Flat and ends in Quincy south of Lake Almanor. The area is known as The Lost Sierra. In the early 1980s that was my main riding area (1981 XL500). I now live on the US/CA border in North Central WA (also awesome riding) (I now ride a 2023 Norden 901 Expedition), but that Lost Sierra area is some of the best adventure riding I've ever done in my 40+ years of riding. There are literally dozens of routes in there. I got married in Downieville.

[@traviscothre]

Fellow WA Norden rider here. We need to have a Norden rally up here there’s lots of us

[@Graybeard_]

@@traviscothre I Live above the town of Molson. I ride to Bonaparte Lake Resort throughout the summer. I also ride to Republic a lot. Always happy to meet up with fellow riders.

[@hotboyracing]

I really enjoyed the video and look forward to seeing the running videos

[@Northman937]

FInally! Been waiting for this since I missed the showing in Sacramento.

[@sailingaeolus]

Beautiful. Many thanks for sharing. BMW has to make the most polite bikes known to man - smooth, powerful and most of all QUIET. I've got a WR-450, RMZ-450 and DRZ-400S. Of them all my DRZ is my favorite. Makes for outstanding day trips. Finally, on the rough you old guys are tossing those big bikes around pretty good. Nice job.

[@rigger99-eo4zo]

looks like a very memorial ride you folks enjoyed, thanks for sharing

[@emotodude]

Trev and Biff conquering the world!

[@ogasi1798]

wonderful movie - looks like a great route

[@dangernurse5576]

Long live California North!!

[@427walrus]

Excellent footage and production. I grew up in Northern California so this is a slice of home. Thinking my CRF300L Rally will do great on these trails. Thanks to the BDR team for putting these together. 👍

[@rickybobby1055]

Awesome video. Cant wait to try out a few sections soon

[@toddsorel-pg4hr]

This helps convince me I need a DR650 more than any of those other bikes. I have a 690 but I bet the little Suzuki is a better tractor for these sorts of trails. Probably wear you out much less!

[@nathanwilsonod3610]

Totally agree. Seems to me a smaller bike would be my preference for this route.

[@itstimetoridewithtoddsouza]

very interesting, watched the whole video. The video was well put together. Made me want to do it.

[@rawbert-uz2kv]

That clime on a 1250 is epic good on you

[@AdvTechMoto]

Another great route to add to the list!

[@lostatlastadv]

Absolutely stunning scenery. Looks like a must do route!

[@goodolbiker]

I'm pretty blessed to live in the heart of this ride gold country riding is the best. You guys missed the Brett heart hotel in this ride.

[@johnauvin]

Wow, cool footage !

[@bigswederides]

Very impressive - well done!

[@drzrider3440]

This route really reminds me of the idaho. With it alt high point views, from trees to no trees. Tiny towns in the sticks. Love it. Bummer bike broke. Have not experienced a breakdown yet. 54,000 miles of no problems on the mighty DRZ....wait a minute...Dr650? What about the mighty little brother. The DRZ.. Yeah i get it. Low end torque.

[@Txgsync]

So excited to see this come out today! And even more excited to see it ridden by electric motrorcycles.

[@ljoelmchanley3676]

The Zero does have it's advantages, unfaltering torque for predictable climbing and doesn't stall out like ICE.

[@timlubbers2884]

Very well done !!

[@Kris-sl3gh]

I love how mad so many people are in the comments about the electric motorcycle. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, most of us never will. We all know they aren’t really that great for the environment, but guess what some people like them. Also most of us can’t afford a $20,000+ motorcycle. I will try it with my $500 1991 Honda xr250L. Hats off to all of the riders who completed the trip, especially on those heavy whales of motorcycles that kept tipping over and they kept picking them up and going. Great video with highlights for us to look forward to when we try it ourselves.

[@myf8880]

The biggest thing with the BDR is dont fall in love with your plan. Your plan wont survive the first day. Stay flexible and roll with the punches. Good job rolling with the punches and not forcing an unsafe condition.

[@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider]

1,000th like, great trip and footage

[@rawbert-uz2kv]

I like the KLR 650, friends went to Alaska several times on them from Auburn, CA

[@eduardorangel1787]

some of the stuff is clearly staged, but we all appreciate the hard work it takes to document a BDR trip.

[@MrBayoumi]

Yeah, obviously they need to turn around and ride a corner or a water crossing a second or a third time to capture the beauty of this trip. But that's how films are made and for me it doesn't take away any of the magic.

[@longboard2257]

Seems that whoever decided this route forgot about the best part of NorCal. The Redwoods! I guess I’ll have to show y’all another loop around Mendocino National Forest and over to the lost coast. Great video!

[@MeerkatADV]

Can't really ride dirt through a national park.

[@longboard2257]

It’s a nat’l Forest not a national park

[@longboard2257]

It’s a nat’l Forest not a national park

[@ronwest90277]

Tough decision to leave out the Lost Coast, but we wanted to start the route near the end of the SoCal BDR and end as close as we could to the start of the ORBDR. But, stay tuned, we are working on BDR-X routes in a number of locations. :)

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@ronwest90277 would love to ride all 3 from north end in socal on my 1190 adv one day

[@subsonicdemon]

I would love to do this in my lifetime.

[@habibi750]

Same.

[@jonstirling9169]

Now that is a killer ride!

[@austina4189]

It's impressive to see an electric bike do most of this stuff better than the GS's!

[@benwhelan5358]

Have been contemplating getting a KTM/husky for my next bike, but the reliability is always a worry... this film did not alleviate those worries. Look like an awesome route though, can't wait to ride it!

[@burddog0792]

They said the rad was punctured on one and the other looks like probably rear master cyl. on the other. Both are simple protection bits any adventure bike should get. Maybe the guy who forgot a master link was in charge of group bike prep? 😄

[@ronwest90277]

I would not hesitate to purchase another KTM/Husky. I love my 701 for BDR's. Kris (in the film) assisted with the scouting and bikes we scout on get punished with a lot of hard miles. The engine failure on my 701 was precipitated by a 400+mile high speed run down the I5 freeway in temps above 100 after scouting an issue at the far North end of the route. The bike over-heated, was diagnosed as a blown head gasket, but unknowingly damaged the water pump seal that unfortunately failed causing radiator fluid to instantly fill the crankcase and the engine just went.

[@austina4189]

48:37 nearly 200 miles of range. Nice! That's more than enough for an entire day!

[@MarcSherwood]

Seeing the Zeros on the ride was great. I think it has done a great job of demonstrating that an electric bike can work great for many riders. And knowing that electric bikes will only get better from here.

[@stevewort]

Did you see any info on how they charged the Zero? I skipped thru some sections, but could not find anything about it on the sections I watched?

[@MarcSherwood]

@@stevewort At the hotels they stayed at they used the wall charger, and at one place there was a L2 charger. When they stopped to eat the bike charged.

[@dannyd6690]

That's great seeing these electric bikes. I hope to see more in the future as I'm a coal miner and all these electric vehicles are really helping the coal industry out. Please don't tell all these carbon footprint people that electricity doesn't magicically appear from a plug.😂

[@MarcSherwood]

@@dannyd6690 bless your heart. Don't forget that many people like the instant torque and power from EVs, and not for the environment reasons (which are valid). Do you have a coal powered bike too?

[@user-iu7sp9fq3i]

@@dannyd6690 Coal made 16% of US electricity in 2023, and falling fast. Almost 50% of US electricity is now combustion-free (renewables and nuclear). EVs are already way cleaner than gas vehicles, and the gap widens every year as the grid gets cleaner.

[@austina4189]

Why'd he say it only gets 100-120 miles when it can easily do 150+ on a BDR? Ive gotten close to 200 miles range on a 50/50 offroad loop in western NC on a DSR/X from eMoto Powersports in Robbinsville, NC

[@davidenglish2003]

Looks like you guys were over biked for much of the ride. Great video though and thanks for making the BDRs possible! I can’t wait to ride it!(CRF450L)

[@mcraeheard8213]

It looks like a challenging BDR. It took out 2 riders, and, what, 3 bikes. I'm impressed with those big rhinos (BMWs). The KTMs always seem to have problems... This video makes the Zero look problem free and perfectly capable, but I don't quite believe it for some reason; I think they probably sugar coated the electric experience. Thanks for the video, and hope to see more BDRs!

[@burddog0792]

The one problem was a punctured rad and they didn't say what the other was. Seemed like maybe the rear brake cylinder or a hose got wrecked. I wish they'd show what happened. Don't skimp out on those protection bits...or be an idiot and not check your tool kit for a master link and then try to safety wire a chain together. The thing about electros is they are actually more simple and reliable than an ICE, but the range and weight (well, it's about the weight of those big stuuupid heavy GS' with massive boxes) are killers. They definitely sugar coated it some (sponsored), at least it's not like Black Hills BDR-X film which is half commercial.

[@dw5523]

@@burddog0792 I can see the electrical components being more reliable than mechanical ones, but I'm dubious about the software side of things.

[@burddog0792]

@@dw5523 Well if you're skeptical of computers and software on your bike, then enjoy riding Suzuki DR forever.

[@dw5523]

@@burddog0792 yep. That’s why I tend to buy older bikes. I have enough trouble with Microsoft updates and printers, lol. I’m cool being a Luddite.

[@stevewort]

@@burddog0792 I didnt see any info on how they charged the Zero, but I also skipped thru some of the slower sections, so may have missed it?

[@MrDapperdantheman]

"Obstacles do not block the path, they are the path" - Bandit

[@xzouix]

California, you're so beautiful

[@D.E.X]

I always carry about a ten link section of chain (the leftovers of the new chain), about five master links, a breaker. I use the rivet type master links, I hate the clip type, though they will get you out of the woods. I kind of wonder why RideBDR doesn't carry a trauma kit for sale on their site. The kits you can buy on line are usually strong on bandaids and tweezers and short on splints, tourniquets, and clotting agents. It would be nice if they could get a company that does those types of kits to make a motorcycle backcountry kit, designed for a BDR type trip. That way it would be small, tailored for the need, without silly things like aspirin (You don't give head trauma victims a blood thinner!) but with the things necessary to keep them alive, until help arrives and to reduce injury after the initial injury. I get that some things in a trauma kit have a best use by date, but if you partner with a company, the kits won't have to sit on a shelf and expire. Just a thought. Or even just an advert on your page for a recommended kit that has what you need, not a bunch of junk.

[@JS-nf1sn]

Zero needs to get applause for their bike's performance. Some of the "ready to race" bikes didn't make it through. This is a tough route for any bike. I like gas and electric, as long as it has two wheels.

[@SlowEddie]

🎉🎉🎉 Can’t wait 🎉🎉🎉to

[@asparceproton1]

I did not have a Sum 41 reference on my bingo card for this one.

[@goodolbiker]

Them ktms sure break down a bunch.

[@DavidDacaro]

I can only speak for the ktm 500's - and want to share for those that generalize about reliability and ktms, that the 500's are very reliable. Or I would never have bought a second one to keep for family and friend riders.

[@americandirtrider7662]

Sadly, the KTM reliability issues are only going to get worse with them continuing to add more and more bikes (and parts) to the Chinese assembly lines.

[@DavidDacaro]

@@americandirtrider7662 dude that is the worst news i have heard, i just looked it up, it's true folks, as of dec 23 at least was the article i read. fu*k

[@edwardburd6900]

Great route; I've done some of it previously 20 years ago as a solo rider. What I do not understand is why everyone overestimates the risk of the trails and speed and why no one seems to be able to right their downed motorcycle.

[@downbytheriver501]

Still waitin for that MTBDR.

[@MeerkatADV]

They're working on it.

[@downbytheriver501]

@@MeerkatADV kinda like the crazy horse monument 😆

[@MeerkatADV]

​@@downbytheriver501lol, pretty sure they've made much more progress than that.

[@downbytheriver501]

@@MeerkatADV sure hope so. Even though it’s my backyard and I’ve driven at least 30,000 miles of MT backroads, I am looking forward to what they have to offer.

[@karlfonner7589]

It’s all fun and games until someone going that same speed is coming at you from the other direction.

[@kevinsterner9490]

Great video. One question , why do you ride so close together? Is it just for the video? Personally I hate anyone riding behind me that close

[@MeerkatADV]

Just for short filming sections.

[@marsrover001]

I love how every single mechanical breakdown was a KTM. I knew they had issues but my goodness that's bad.

[@bt7843]

Ha! Last time I was in Bodie it was the 70’s. 😂

[@robertneithart3453]

I've ridden the trails around Mammoth many times. I'm sure this is an excellent route. That said, why the primary bike in all of these BDR films are 500lb+ 'adventure' bikes continues to baffle me. Notice all of the crashing? The right tool for the job is a lightweight bike with moto bags.

[@MeerkatADV]

Because they have to show it can be done. You know others are going to take those bikes, it would obviously be easier on a dirtbike, but you have to prove it can be ridden on a 1200GS with full luggage.

[@IRLtrolls]

Really love seeing Sterling Noren on here. That dude is a Gem and doesn’t get the credit he deserves. He is true salt of the earth and just loves to ride. These BDR films are usually kind of cringe and filled with too many personalities from different companies trying to represent their brand. Like this guy on the Zero. 120 mile range? What a joke. That only works when you have a big publication like this with planned stopped and an extraction team one phone call away. The common man could not make the BDR on a zero.

[@MeerkatADV]

Most of the BDR's have been completed by people on electric bikes. This was the first time the filming expedition used one, not the first time they've been used on a BDR.

[@drzrider3440]

Man, y'all need to check weather and plan these rides in the best part of the year. I have done washington and idaho BDR's several times each. Only had 1 day if extremely light rain. Thats it. The rest of every single day i have ever ridden a BDR, it eas sunny and warm. Maybe i should go next time and bring some of my luck with.

[@ronwest90277]

Definitely could have used your "Luck" on this route! The original filming was scheduled for the end of June but because of record snow fall was pushed back to July, but there was still too much snow. The earliest we could get the entire filming crew and guests together was end of September. As it turned out we had one day of snow and rain, the remainder of the trip was perfect riding weather.

[@Redhawk03a]

Seems like a knobby-only route...as a first time BDR rider, am I wise to invest in knobbies (vs Trailmax Mission) for this one?

[@minds4game]

I'm doing this BDR later this year and I'm switching to Motoz RallZ rear and DualVenture front. I definitely want something more dirt oriented for this trip.

[@kennyb7883]

Are there non-technical go arounds?

[@jonasbaine3538]

Adding multiple master links and 2 chains to mandatory items list.

[@cinnreds18]

The zero bikes are cool, I am not there with electric vehicles yet. I think the battery technology needs to catch up (solid state battery) but it’s nice seeing options out there for those who don’t mind the charge…..

[@Anath525]

What is the Alpinestars Jacket Ron is wearing? Looks great.

[@ronwest90277]

The Bogota Pro! Check it out. The most comfortable jacket I've ridden in. Huge vents for when it gets hot and an insulated and waterproof liner that is cut large enough to be worn over the jacket. I think this jacket runs a bit small (more of a European cut) if you plan riding in the liner or say another layer under for additional warmth. I sized up to a Large. Seriously so comfy you will forget you are wearing a jacket at all.

[@eivinherfindal6658]

Why choose a monster bike you cant handle 🤔

[@MeerkatADV]

To prove it can be done. Somebody is gonna try to do this route on a brand new monster bike with way too much luggage and minimal skills. They want to make sure you get an accurate representation of what that would be like if you tried it.

[@davidsonneman1121]

Wonder what they used the two 9500watt Predator generators for?

[@haggeoromero]

To make noise.

[@AT2021Rocker]

Although I appreciate the massive development efforts the pandering to corporations is getting thin. It’s getting a real “exclusive” feel to these routes and how they are presented. Don’t forget the beginner or intermediate riders with basic bikes who deserve the opportunity to do these to the fullest without having to feel inferior or incapable of enjoying it. This film actually makes me not want to ride it. “All killer and no filler”? No thanks. Not my idea of a BDR.

[@BeyondBigFood]

@36:59 I would NOT use front brakes as main going down that or any other dirt hill. Wanna take a tank nap? Go for it.

[@MeerkatADV]

Your front brakes are 75% of your braking force, on or off road and you can brake much more than you typically think. Please get some training before taking on an off road route such as this.

[@BeyondBigFood]

@@MeerkatADV I've been riding street and dirt for over half a century. Front brakes on dirt are closer to 25% OR LESS, not 75%. 🤣🙂😂

[@MeerkatADV]

​@RekdReation that's nice, you're still wrong. Get some training. If we're comparing resumes I have over 60,000 miles of riding in the last 3 years. About half of that off-road. Yeah I'll keep using my front brakes.

[@BeyondBigFood]

@@MeerkatADV Ok, kid. 🤣

[@MeerkatADV]

@@BeyondBigFood Sometimes being old doesn't mean you have useful knowledge or wisdom. It just means you're old. Technology and techniques evolve. Get training.

[@jonasbaine3538]

1:04:00. The throttle on those ktms are fully adjustable with rally modes and riding modes. Curious if he tried that.

[@ronwest90277]

So, before I hopped on the bike, Nathan apologized that after a crash just before our filming expedition the screen broke and he was unable to get it out of Rally mode. Trust me we tried!

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@ronwest90277 wow a broken tft screen sounds expensive.

[@ParkerRoams]

Thumbnail says ORBDR?

[@shastamite2]

Yeah i see that too.

[@RideBDR]

@@shastamite2 Guess you'll have to ride both back to back! 😎 We've uploaded a new thumbnail and are just waiting on the KZbin servers to update. Thanks for the note!

[@shastamite2]

@@RideBDR No problem. I live in Norcal and would love to try this BDR as my first one. OR is definitely the second one ill try.

[@dirktube5468]

Ohio please!!! 😁