"Ridiculous & Crazy" - Musk's Mars Plan: Astronomer EXPOSES The Hurdles To Colonizing The Red Planet

[@ak1ranger]

The host of this show operates on about a 5th grade level of intelligence.

[@chiman75]

this channel is for ppl attending trump "university"

[@terrymckenzie8786]

Good to see this channel get a real educated person on instead of politicians and scammers. This world is run by salesmen.

[@GjermoGjermanski]

Patrick B David is a scamming salesman

[@JarodM]

👍

[@hericiumcoralloides5025]

The host is literally a salesman scammer. So not very surprising.

[@MicahDamger]

What can we expect when PBD himself got the capital to start a show running a multi-level marketing scam? He’s a scam artist con man. His little skit on Rogan made it quite evident when he kept rolling out the gift carts.

[@robertotejeda1613]

It's a podcast ran by a scammer lol what more could you ever expect xD

[@jonescrusher1]

It's embarrassing to hear Bet-David ask him if the moon landings were a hoax in all seriousness. I

[@evanhume3706]

it's embarrassing to look at the evidence and think otherwise

[@johnhoward2337]

I worked on top-of-the-line offshore platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Great food, gym, work, fresh air, small community. After 6 weeks, you want the hell off. Travel to Mars, and living on Mars would be a living nightmare. Suicides would be certain.

[@calvinmasters6159]

I worked in Bristol Bay, Alaska a couple o' summers. The isolation grinds on your brain. Imagine that times 1000.

[@JacquesMartini]

@@calvinmasters6159 You where missing a major component. Chicks! 😂

[@earthwormjim3269]

Mars won't be a desolate planet by the time humans have established a permanent civilisation there. They will send a massive fleet of humanoid robots to build the infrastructure on Mars, which will include enormous geodesic domes that contain a variety of biomes similar to those found on Earth.

[@earthwormjim3269]

You don't know what you're talking about. Living on Mars doesn't mean a bunch of people will just disembark from a spaceship and inhabit a desolate planet. AI powered robots will have built entire cities on Mars and enormous biodomes will exist everywhere before the first fleet of humans are sent to live there permanently.

[@izzynobre]

Good point. These guys would know isolation better than most. If he's saying it, I believe it. Mars would be 100x worse.

[@blendedplanet]

It's a great illustration why Pat had so much trouble with David Pakman - Elon Musk being "a smart guy" in NO WAY endorses ANY idea Elon ever has. In fact it's precisely the opposite. As a smart guy - a dealer in ideas - he's actually more likely to have many more dumb ideas in the process of tripping over some good ones! Babe Ruth was the strike out king. Pat routinely applies these labels to people and situations that frame his thinking in such a way that he is resistant to clinical information that debunks conspiracy theories. I like and respect Pat but this is a deficit he really should address b/c I see it coming up again and again in his podcasts.

[@thesteelworks8088]

he's not accounting for taking matt Damon with a big box of poo to grow us some potatoes

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

Omg 😆

[@dominusbonus]

Poo-tatoes

[@kevinkadventures]

Or Matt Damon faking an all clear broadcast to get rescued from a hostile environment

[@nickidaisydandelion4044]

That movie was total bs. It was not researched enough. The way growing soil is created is through full circle biowaste composting with Earth worms which will have to be transported to Mars as well. Quick composting is done through empty waste bins with holes on all sides bottom and top for Earth worms and flying insects to get in and for water and air to get in. Add biowaste, add fallen leaves, more biowaste such as dung, then leaves or other plant based compost in layers. It decomposes in about two to three months into fertile Earth soil.

[@dominusbonus]

@@kevinkadventures it really felt like a parallel universe after watching interstellar recently 🤣

[@1979augistine]

Thank god this guy told me it was harder to live on mars then Antarctica i was just ready to pack up and move this fall !

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

😆

[@timothymora5244]

I know, an to think I thought it was gonna be a trip to Bangkok!

[@deanoaussie1716]

Why not it's a short trip by yacht from here.

[@connorjohn5013]

It’s marz not mars.

[@joeheidecker1143]

Wait till winter so you can go you will be ready cold 😢

[@compugasm]

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. It's cold as hell.

[@brettg274]

There’s no one even there to raise them if you did.

[@leotka]

I am not sure that you can have children on Mars. Noone knows how low gravity will affect pregnancy.

[@dmanson4649]

Never understood that lyric. Hell is very hot, apparently.

[@joannewilson6577]

the "human ability to conceive in reduced gravity is not known, neither is there enough research on whether a fetus can grow normally under these circumstances." Could someone born on Mars survive on Earth? No, in fact they'd be at a disadvantage in almost every respect on Earth. They'd be physically weaker, thinner, would have a harder time with atmospheric pressure and gravity…

[@leotka]

@@joannewilson6577 To say that kids who born on Mars will have disadvantages on Earth is wrong. We don't know if they be able born on Mars. We don't know about development pregnancy in low gravitation. How many miscarriages will happen. So this is very big problem.

[@TheHzh82]

Even if we totally wreck our environment, have a nuclear war, followed by a nuclear winter, that Earth will still be WAY more hospitable to life than Mars.

[@Nemophilist850]

If you narrow it down to those scenarios yes, but there are worse things that can happen than that.

[@TheHzh82]

@@Nemophilist850 Fine. But Earth will still be more hospital than Mars, even if they had happened.

[@NorthPole4]

Not if we’re all dead

[@TheHzh82]

@@NorthPole4 Humans may well die off, but it will take waaayyyyy more effort to wipe out all forms of life here on Earth. That Earth is still more hospitable to life than Mars.

[@Nemophilist850]

@@TheHzh82 Nope.

[@ernestrandall1726]

Amazing how science deniers are amazed by scientists who explain science in simple ways

[@wtfdfw]

I don't believe going to Mars is just for us to go and live. Colonizing Mars would be a huge boost to science. It will also teach us how to live in hostile environments just incase we want to extra resources from such planets/asteroids. A majority of the planets in our solar system are very hostile towards life but if we can manage to find a way to live on those planets, that would be monumental for the human race. Mars is just a testing ground for science and the space industry

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

That does make some sense and using the exploration of earth by early explorers there could be multiple failures where by the first couple Mars colonies fail for any number of reasons.

[@stephenburrows4250]

Things have changed a little since your post..., living on Mars now (via Musk) will mean you will have to live under a MAGA regime... 😞

[@blackrahk2037]

Try to colonize Antarctica frist then!!😂 The coldest day there is STILL WARMER THAN MARS!. Nothing lives there. Nothing. Its the only place on earth with no life at all on the surface. Musk is a con-man.

[@shanephillips4011]

HAHAHAHA good

[@Danielle1988-g]

yep

[@bethwilliams4903]

If David had been my science teacher I would never have cut my classes in high school (or college) - his Cool Workds is an amazing series PBD, you need to watch it

[@rolfw2336]

Yes always interesting to hear him speak.

[@marieparker3822]

Sabine Hossenfelder explains the difficulties of Mars inhabitation very well.

[@davecech4741]

Sabine is awesome.

[@primafacie9721]

Asking an astronomer if he thinks we actually landed on the Moon by an interviewer is like asking Eric Clapton if he really knows how to play the guitar. At least he didn't ask if he thought the world was flat.

[@TheMg49]

Humanity isn't ready for Mars colonization, regardless what Musk might say about it. Kipping is an accomplished scientist. Good interview. Thumbs up.

[@1boreal]

We werent ready to go to the moon either. That turned out to be one of the greatest single achievements in Human history....and the benefits doing that have been incalculable. It beats staying here forever and arguing about increasingly silly things.

[@wolfen210959]

@@1boreal When was the last manned mission to the moon? I can't remember, but I believe it was over 40 years ago. Humans haven't even solved the major hurdle of living in a low gravity environment, we can do it temporarily, as has been proven by the ISS, but we can't survive permanently, as has also been proven by the ISS. Humans haven't even built a base on the moon, and that is a prerequisite for living on any other planet, we have to build a base on the moon, because it's much closer to Earth, so feasibly a rescue could be made when/if things go wrong, and it will provide valuable experience of resupply missions, and also water and mineral extraction in a low gravity environment. Humans travelling to Mars is pie in the sky, it won't happen in any of our lifetimes, but a base on the moon could be built within the next 50 - 100 years, so some people might see that, not me though, I was 10 years old when Neil and Buzz landed on the moon.

[@1boreal]

@@wolfen210959 If i recall, when Kennedy made his moon speech we werent sure if the Van Allen belt was more or less instantly toxic to humans, and we had only just found out that people could survive in zero G at all. There is more computing power in childrens now toys than entire countries could harness. (because of the space race). Mars would be the most difficult thing we have ever done by a distance, but it would be the best thing we ever did and would unlock the most rewards. ....Its either do things like that, or spend eternity fighting amongst ourselves over whose book is correct and who gets what dirt...until something takes us out permanently I think if we really had a desire to do so we could do it in 20 years...

[@faktiman381]

Accompliseh scientists said it would take a million years for humans to make planes it happened six months later scientists are cynical bunch which is needed for their profession but I don’t listen to them for building or goals i listen to engineers for it who make it possible

[@Nemophilist850]

Did you actually watch the video? He basically says that it is doable.

[@pioneerballa5]

I ate this bomb chocolate bar and i went to mars. It was lit.

[@therealchucktaylor3392]

😂

[@ChuckHolland-i4b]

Same here. Except I got lost on my back patio instead of going to Mars and couldn't find my back into the house. My wife had to come save me. Damn, I was fried. Lol.

[@michaelyoung1681]

Mushroom bars

[@MutagenStation]

Nicee

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Elon did the same with a Ketamine trip..... SIGH

[@roborob347]

It's insane how many grown adults in this comment section think the earth is flat and don't believe space exists. We are doomed as a society.

[@akaDominus17]

You are doom

[@roborob347]

@@akaDominus17 Doomed*. There, I fixed your grammar for you. Is there anything else you'd like to be corrected on?

[@jimmcfarland9318]

Tell them that gravity is fake, and that you have a nice tall building with which to prove whether or not it exists! Ask them if they're interested in trying.

[@akaDominus17]

@@roborob347 My hero 🥳

[@roborob347]

@@akaDominus17 You're damn right.

[@anapavia4379]

David Kipping is the best at explaining science.

[@squamsh122]

For real, his lecture on “why we might be alone in the universe” is such an interesting perspective.

[@Confessor555]

Yeah, but only if it's actual real science, lol. Plus, I suspect he knows the difference between a man and a woman, unlike Degrasse Tyson. So there's that for him, too.

[@MrTmenzo]

​@@Confessor555Tyson and Bill Nye are scared to get cancelled if they mention men and women differences 😂

[@wiseoldfool]

Musk, Trump, Vance, Putin, Netanyu and Kim Jong Un deserve to be on the first starship to Mars.

[@thewildrangers5070]

Hundred percent agree. I think the elites should explore the universe. And leave the sheep's like u watching football and arguing over gas prices

[@wiseoldfool]

@@thewildrangers5070 I won't be watching football, I'll be out there fighting bushfires. Unpaid.

[@ontheruntonowhere]

@@thewildrangers5070 From their list, I don't think they bother with anything so pointless as arguing over gas prices. That more of a MAGA thing.

[@ASHERQARNI]

Professor Kipping is an outstanding speaker.

[@kenbrock-studio]

The larger factor is no one knows the effect of 1/3 Earths gravity on development of a fetus. The ISS has shown low gravity causes debilitating degradation of bone and muscle in mature humans requiring intense daily focus to overcome bone and muscle loss, blindness, and other constant serious physical issues. An infant would not be able to do these exercise activities. More importantly experiments have shown deformities in spinal development in mammals in low gravity. Therefore, it may be that Martian gravity doesn't form healthy human offspring meaning living there is a one generation only event. If this proves true, the argument we should colonize Mars to avoid humanity being wiped out on Earth is a fallacy due to the need for continued seeding of humans from Earth to keep a population on Mars alive.

[@SuzannaKiraly]

Yeah, this is what I thought too unless they can develop something to solve the gravity issue.

[@mattg5978]

Mars would probably be ‘colonized’ by drones and advanced robots. It’s NOT going to be colonized by humans.

[@crowfeedreactions]

There's a big difference between the almost zero-G onboard the ISS and the gravity on Mars, which is ~40% of Earth's. Humans would adapt, as we have to every environment on Earth. This will be a more severe adaptation, but it absolutely can happen. However, it would be difficult for Mars-born and raised residents to visit Earth. I would think doubling your weight would not feel very good at all for someone used to the lighter gravity of Mars. So it will most likely be a one-way migration.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

There is no reason to think that the effects zero gee is remotely similar to low gee environments. The problem with zero gee is that your body is designed to pump extra blood to your head to counteract gravity pulling it down and back out. When you are in zero gee there is no force pulling it back down so it pools in your head creating higher pressures and this has a negative effect on your eyes. Also not constantly pressing against gravity causes your bones to lose mass, but on the ISS astronauts mostly overcome this by high force exercise regimes. Neither of these two things will remotely be as big a problem, if problems at all, on Mars in 40% gravity. It will provide the force to reduce blood pressure in your head, and it will provide force to keep bone mass. And astronauts on Mars will be very active, lots of walking and carrying heavy packs, but if they need more they can bring the ISS exercise machines.

[@kenbrock-studio]

@@RandyHill-bj9pc It would be unreasonable to assume 1/3 gravity doesn’t have enormous effects on mammalian fetus and adult development.

[@SeanAllocca]

Human settlements on Mars are the Flying Car of the 21st century.

[@DanyCervantes]

@@SeanAllocca The settlement can be started with artificial intelligent robots. 🤖 Tesla Optimus.

[@ixirion]

we can build them if we want. its just pointless. you can if you want drive a smaller plane on the road also or add a transmission to a helicopter to move on highways. we have even kinda flying trains - maglev. if we are talking anti-gravity then yep thats probably truly impossible. Human settlement on mars is however not pointless and its feasible in 100-1000y time. Its kinda stupid to send ppl there too early so probably robots.

[@dr.OgataSerizawa]

@SeanAllocca There were flying cars (in the U.S., anyway) in the 1940s.

[@wolfen210959]

@@ixirion We have to build a base on the moon first, otherwise there will be no one living on Mars, not even robots. There will be thousands of problems to solve, some minor, some major, so why travel to Mars to discover what those problems might be? The moon is very close, so travel times will be relatively short, unlike Mars where travel time is measured in years, it may take 18 months to get there but the right alignment of Earth and Mars is going to play into that equation. We already have robots on Mars, the problem is that some of them were destroyed while attempting to land, and the ones that succeeded have a limited battery life.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

Flying cars are here, check out blackfly

[@Cascalonginus1]

My main issue with the idea of living on or terraforming mars is the fact that it has no electromagnetic field. Life cannot survive nor can an atmosphere do anything but bubble away

[@joannewilson6577]

The "human ability to conceive in reduced gravity is not known, neither is there enough research on whether a fetus can grow normally under these circumstances." Could someone born on Mars survive on Earth? No, in fact they'd be at a disadvantage in almost every respect on Earth. They'd be physically weaker, thinner, would have a harder time with atmospheric pressure and gravity…

[@jvvoid]

Couldn't believe that wasn't the first thing the guest said - no molten core, so no magnetic field, no protection from radiation and big or small things smashing into you.

[@awojobiseun]

Is the entire SpaceX team dumb ? they are some of the smartest people on the planet, what makes you sure you've considered any problem they are not aware of ? and they are not actively trying to solve them.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

Without an electromagnetic field any added atmosphere will take millions of years to lose the new atmosphere, so not much a concern when we can generate a new atmosphere within a few hundred years.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

@@jvvoidradiation is higher, but NASA studies indicate risk is minor. They estimate a 4% increase in lifetime cancer risk for every two years in mars, and that’s without shielding. It’s pretty trivial to put a meter or so of soil in top of the Martian habitats to entirely block the excess radiation. Obviously there will still be a little more picked up in transit and when outside on the surface but means you can survive decades without big increases in cancer rates.

[@apricotcomputers3943]

living on Antarctica should be Elon's first goal. Move from LA... and into an igloo

[@dont2997]

I'd you lived on the moon when an asteroid wiped out earth your remaining life would be very short

[@flynnmiddleton7102]

It depends on whether you had the means to go back to earth and if it was habitual after such a cataclysmic event.

[@maxwarboy3625]

Actually it depends on what stage of development the Moon is at in terms of human habitation. With enough infrastructure built (remember the Moon is the 13th largest planet in the solar system) there is potentially a point where humans can easily live on the Moon forever (assuming the mass of Earth is still a gravitational anchor point).

[@Clemfandang0]

@@maxwarboy3625NO AIR

[@denysvlasenko1865]

The Moon's only advantage is that's close to Earth (~3 days Hoffman transfer). In many other respects, it's worse than Mars, main one is the scarcity of volatiles (water, nitrogen, carbon, ...)

[@wolfen210959]

@@denysvlasenko1865 There is water on the moon, the Japanese proved that by crashing a probe into it, water vapour was released. Where there is water, you can seperate out hydrogen and oxygen, and that gives both fuel and air. It's actually much better on the moon, than on Mars, for one simple reason, it won't take 18 months to travel there, nor will you have to wait for Earth and Mars to be in conjunction, which only happens once in a blue moon. We haven't even solved the basic premise of surviving in space, the degradation of bone density while in low gravity, that's why no one is living permanently on the ISS, because the best we can do is slow the degrdation.

[@punchtalestudio]

Looks like a character from Shrek

[@G6_SA]

😭

[@brandondb6190]

Lord Farquad?

[@readytodie116]

Lmaooo

[@MELLWALT5000]

Trevor Lawrence is Farquad

[@Mrcometo]

- Astronomer: "This is ridiculous and crazy". - Engineer: "Hold my beer..."

[@vladislavgorshkov737]

? people wont survive on mars more than year. Elon talk too much to attract investments, that's his job

[@Fortiusetsano]

😆

[@vladislavgorshkov737]

- Astronauts: we are dying here! - Engineer: humanity will remember you forever! - Astronomer: told ya

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Your comment focuses on the title only and ignores the content of the video because the astronomer was much more nuanced in his comment about going to Mars.

[@shimminykricket5470]

Engineers are WAY more pessimistic and cautious than scientists are, by far, and by necessity.

[@jaylinn416]

What a great guest! He knows a lot and he is a great teacher.

[@chrisculhane3777]

This dude is amazing and his videos from chanel cool worlds are great to go to sleep to.

[@teronawillis-wl6gu]

When Billionaire tired of counting their money. They either take s dive in the ocean or light their way to space.😅😅

[@ricinro]

Billionaires do not have the lifetimes required to count such numbers.

[@denysvlasenko1865]

Elon was NOT billionaire when he started SpaceX. SpaceX is one of the ways he made billions: by finally making a much better launch system.

[@metriczeppelin]

Billionaires don't count their money, their accountants do.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

Musk is a billionaire because he made $5M on his first company, put it into Paypal where he made $100M, then he put half of it into Tesla and used the other half to start SpaceX. If both had failed he'd be broke. Instead he succeeded by working very hard at both, and then when he became a billioniaire never stopped working hard, as SpaceX just this week made a major step forward into making space travel far more affordable by catching a booster.

[@bb5979]

As they should. If we dont push as quickly as we can to make life multiplanetary extinction of all life from earth becomes potentially inevitable

[@mikecorda4585]

David is so kind and above it all. Never says anything bad about Musk who would be too intimidated by Mr. Kipping to meet with him.

[@ricksmith1382]

We need more, Elon Musk's in the world. Aiming high to learn and push new technologies that will benefit all of us. Going to Mars is not easy. I find it fascinating.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

One Elon Musk is more than enough. At one extreme he has moved Space X to amazing progress with the Falcon 9 and now Starship. On the other he has turned Twitter into a misinformation propaganda machine worth less than half the value he paid for it. On top of that Musk has donated at least 70 million to get a former president reelected that invoked an insurrection against the government and has 34 felony indictments among other guilty verdicts. That is not the behaviour of a visionary!!

[@MathiasWarwick]

Great guest

[@mvdeehan]

David Kipping was very interesting!

[@caifan461]

"Do you think man landed on the moon" LOL!

[@silverbirddog2761]

The title does not match the content... He said that "some of his colleagues say it is ridiculous, others say it is crazy" to try and colonize mars. He didn't "expose" anything. He just gave his opinion, which seemed to be a fairly educated one. Please just title the videos without all of the click bait. You guys have great content, you don't need the sleezy sales tactics.

[@rakibkronos]

PBD was literally a MLM scammer, talk about sleazy 😂

[@dbrown2264]

Agree. Dumb title.

[@YohXoX]

I remember early days when engineers said "viable re-usable rocket cannot be made 'because physics'" and now Falcon is flying more often than I'm rubbing mine off. Colonizing Mars will be step into next level in efficient engineering. Everything will have be used and re-used 99.9% and I'm totally sure we will bring a lot of these innovations back to Earth.

[@Skippy-s1g]

Nobody will want to come back

[@brutuslugo3969]

What engineers said that and what physics back it up ?

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

If you are only rubbing off every three days you aren't remotely trying;)

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

@@brutuslugo3969 Richard Bowles of ArianeSpace said in 2013 that "reusability is a dream" and that Elon was selling unrealistic expectations. Once Falcon 9 landed ArianeSpace said didn't make sense because re-using their super expensive hand built engines means they would have to lay off engineers. Peter Beck of Rocket Lab denied its benefits for years and publicly ate his hat on Video in 2019 when Rocket Lab switched to reusability. Tory Bruno of ULA said it didn't make economic sense unless you could reuse a booster 10 times, which could never happen. Others said using rockets for descent would incur enormous weight penalties, that it was impossible to land a rocket on a barge, that they couldn't fly back because of propellent sloshing,

[@brutuslugo3969]

@@RandyHill-bj9pc right so what physics backed them up ? I can believe scientist having an opinion but not that the physics backed them

[@distinctga5811]

Amazing episode. Thank you for this.

[@julesgosnell9791]

Over sensational title but very interesting interviewee who, as far as I can tell, agreed with and had respect for Elon Musk.

[@stephenklug4961]

All of the issues & hurdles that this man brings up that would prevent us from colonizing Mars have been talked about & potential solutions exist. Theoretically, you can warm Mars by putting vegetation there, you’d do that by warming the poles & melting the ice caps, this would start a cycle that would allow for the planet to warm up & create vegetation as well as oceans.. all theoretical, but it has been addressed…

[@jjg1501]

there is no solution. if people could get to mars they could NEVER live without support from the earth. if earth died, the people on mars would die right behind them. there is no solution to this problem and there never will be. this isint star trek where you can just materialize what you need out of thin air. no matter what machines you had that could do whatever, they would break at some point. do you think they are going to build factory's on mars to build machines too?

[@omnipop4936]

Thanks for providing some specifics. So many comments go no deeper than basically saying "Let's go, Musk!"

[@AntiLifeEquation1]

Isn't Martian soil toxic, so any vegetation would be harmful to humans.How do you keep the atmosphere from being constantly stripped away as it is now. The radiation,the dust storms, the low gravity playing havoc on our circulatory systems. There are so many factors to why it's just not viable, and this coming from someone who loves the idea of humans in space but it just doesn't seem realistic.

[@Cascalonginus1]

On thing makes terraforming mars impossible. THERE IS NO ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD!!! Sorry to yell but I have never seen a single person mention this in regards to settling mars. It's the reason there is no liquid water or an atmosphere the solar winds boiled it away. Unless we become at least a type one civilization and that's not happening anytime in the conceivable future we'll never solve that.

[@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned]

@@AntiLifeEquation1 don't you know anything about transmutation from one state to another? If something is X you can turn it into Y, if you got knowledge and resources to do so...the question is not about whether it can be done or not, the question is whether humans are capable of doing it or not.

[@citizenwolf8720]

People keep asserting that Musk is "a very smart guy". He seems like a friggin idiot to me.

[@universalmonster4972]

He’s a salesman who sold dreams of the future and became insanely rich doing it.

[@joannewilson6577]

The "human ability to conceive in reduced gravity is not known, neither is there enough research on whether a fetus can grow normally under these circumstances." Could someone born on Mars survive on Earth? No, in fact they'd be at a disadvantage in almost every respect on Earth. They'd be physically weaker, thinner, would have a harder time with atmospheric pressure and gravity…

[@VerisimilitudeDude]

He was the head of the engineering department in the early days of SpaceX. Probably a lot brighter than you or other haters.

[@wolfen210959]

@@VerisimilitudeDude Is he an engineer though? Is he an aeronautical engineer? The owner of the company can give himself any title he wants, no matter if they are suitably qualified or not. What you describe as hate, the rest of us know it as scepticism, we're not convinced of his genius, 'cos he seems to have far too much to say for himself, particularly about free speech. He claims to be in favour of it, yet at the same time he is only in favour of free speech that agrees with his version of it. There is no doubt that he is gifted at making money, and he excels at inspiring people to make his ideas work, but I for one am not convinced that he walks on water. He appears to be very thin skinned too, lashing out at any perceived snub, such as the UK government not inviting him to a recent investment expo, or when the rescuers of the kids trapped in the cave declined his offer of help, he called them "pedos". So, I'm not a fan, but there is no denying he is very successful at making money, and inspiring others to help him make more.

[@VerisimilitudeDude]

@wolfen210959 Good points. I guess when people talk about genius, it can come in many forms. Leonardo da Vinci was definitely a genius but yet didn't hold medical or engineering degrees. Intelligence can come in many forms. There are some individuals who have made real life Iron Man suits that don't have mechanical or electrical engineering degrees. As to his thin skin none of us like getting snubbed.

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

Every outcome starts at the beginning. People said the same thing to discourage flight. The idea is to get off the planet and then keep going.

[@Andriastravels]

Many things do "start." And most fail.

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

@AndriasTravels does it matter if something fails? Use that experience to take the next step. Edison filled 9,999 times before getting the one thing that made a durable light bulb. Imagine if he quit so easily. Also it's okay for a person to play it safe and never do anything. Just don't complain when somebody else has a better life and more resources.

[@vitorsilva4075]

We do not have a choice if we want to survive. It is that simple. We have to start.

[@donaldwesterhazy9333]

@@vitorsilva4075 A better start would be acting rationally before it is too late.

[@tarikattarikat2613]

Always a pleasure to listen to Prof. Kipping.

[@kr0gan105]

Love David’s storytelling videos. Super awesome.

[@Bryanbkk]

The first person to Mars is instantly famous for all human history and all time.

[@vladislavgorshkov737]

The first suicider

[@brotherantoinemoore7390]

Prolly will be dead we are far from getting people to mars in a matter of days it will take months to mars around the time Elon plans to launch people. But I’m still excited

[@SiVisPacem_ParaBellum]

I’m curious what he’d say a few years back if you’d tell him a civilian was going to crush NASA and make the largest rockets that are returned and caught on descent to be reused. He’d probably say that’s ridiculous also.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

That's really kind of on a different scale of hard to believe events. If one looks a little closely at what Musk has predicted many of his predictions have fallen flat and not gone anywhere. For example Musk predicted the hyperloop technology and recently said himself that it wouldn't work. And predictions of when something would happen are also overly optimistic. Elon has said we could reach Mars in 2 years recently.

[@SiVisPacem_ParaBellum]

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 “could” reach Mar’s as in capable doesn’t mean he’s going in 2 years. The point is we have his competition that he’s embarrassing significantly by doing what they can’t with a fraction of the budget telling us what he can’t do. I don’t think we’ll be on Mars in the coming decades but if somebody makes it happen it’s Elon and not NASA.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

@@SiVisPacem_ParaBellum Going to Mars isn't a primary goal NASA anyway. They are busy enough with a multitude of other extra planetary missions which Space X is often contracted to get them on their way.

[@jonschlottig9584]

The attempt to live on Mars will drive innovation - to paraphrase Kennedy "we want to do it not because it is easy, but because it's hard."

[@tyrellchibvongodze3566]

Plain and simple! If you don't get it, forget about it!

[@James-KL]

Excellent interview!

[@kdsdwarika]

I’ve watched this video 4 times already, I have problems sleeping and this worked a treat. Great job

[@ashleyhulme4683]

I'm no expert at anything, I can't get my head around people getting paid to research on how to live somewhere else, when we don't know how to live on our own planet...

[@AnunnakiAaron]

We do know. We just don't. Dont confuse profit motives and bad corrupt leadership with ignorance.

[@jaamall]

We can walk and chew gum at the same time dude.

[@JohnMcAfee-se9ms]

I'm pretty sure I know how to live here

[@johnthomas4790]

People get paid to show their buttholes to strangers. Is this really the hardest career to comprehend?

[@1voluntaryist]

@@AnunnakiAaron "...bad corrupt leadership..." is due to majority worship of "The Most Dangerous Superstition" (Larken Rose).

[@ichigen511]

Mind. Blown. Great spending of 15 minutes of my life, thank you Valuetainment!

[@Grumpyseabee22]

Any situation that requires you to reside permanently in a life support facility is questionable.

[@AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables]

Yes.

[@usnairframer]

Fucking Christ, you guys are insane.

[@6Vlad6Tepes6]

Lol what the fuck do you think earth is? It's really no different from that!

[@WhosierDaddy]

Not if you Terraforming the planet. It’s very possible

[@usnairframer]

@@WhosierDaddy terraforming would take hundreds if not thousands of years. Not a workable option anytime soon, particularly without life extension technology

[@joshuajuarez3471]

It’s insane that we are talking about living in a planet that has no livable environment. No air , weather our bodies can’t handle. And it’s a discussion. This is actually a discussion. Think about it. This is insane.

[@mikeottersole]

Science fiction has been talking about these kind of things for over 100 years, but yeah, from the first human powered flight in the early 1900s to landing on the moon in 1968, to space stations in the 70s, to planning on living on the Moon and Mars today. Remarkable where an opposable thumb can lead you.

[@joshuajuarez3471]

@@mikeottersole think about the logistics. What if something bad happens, we have astronauts stuck in orbit. Imagine pll stuck in another planet. This isn’t a movie or a sci fi book. This is real life. We can even explained the rest of our oceans and survive Antarctica during the “winter” months. And there is air there !!! Even if it’s possible. What will be the motive? What is the benefit of risking life? And even if there is a benefit. How would the “product” be transported back? How can something like the at be funded ? There is a monopoly in the aviation industry. And right now they are in trouble. It’s insane. I get the dream and story book possibilities. But maybe 300 years from now but it’s a wet dream or an acid dream.

[@mervstash3692]

Except we aren't.

[@alexanderhamilton6370]

It's less about living on an inhospitable planet than it is about terraforming it into a hospitable one.

[@joshuajuarez3471]

@@alexanderhamilton6370 that’s even more insane. An entire planet? C Mon spend time and money looking b for way to travel better. Then find a more habitual planet. Instead for “terraform”.

[@darylbrice]

I learned so much from this clip, wow!

[@beofonemind]

First PDB segment i have enjoyed in years. incredible.

[@ak1ranger]

Musk is not that smart. He has money, he talks a big game but doesn't design anything. he isn't an engineer. He promises something seemingly crazy then tells the actual talent at SpaceX to do it. So please, we need to stop talking about Musk as though he is actually working on it himself, he is not. He is a crazy maniac but SpaceX definitely has the engineering know how of which Musk is not a part.

[@dbrown2264]

First off, he is clearly smart. Is he a rocket scientist? No. Did he invent EVs? No. But he built these various influential companies, hired these geniuses, shaped their strategy, and funded their research and development. He has created and/or rejuvenated entire industries, based on his foresight. I'm not saying he's the next Da Vinci or that he should be king of all mankind, but you can't honestly be so dismissive of his intelligence and skill.

[@datingandmoney]

You can’t survive Antarctica with a coat

[@CaptainCaveman1170]

I think he means in the sense that with a big enough coat (and goggles, and boots, and gloves) you won't die "instantly", as you would on Mars without a complete life support suit.

[@6Vlad6Tepes6]

You do know they have shelter in Antarctica right? You can't survive winter anywhere without shelter! So what's your point?

[@geo525252]

Right now they're struggling to bring back astronauts from circling the earth. That's something being done successfully 60 years ago, but we can't do it today. Any trip to Mars will be a one way trip.

[@MuzzaHukka]

That is why you can send expendable robots to do all of the grunt work BEFORE you send the first humans

[@Skippy-s1g]

That's because Boeing and NASA have contracted the mind virus. Usually fatal

[@brianmurphy8811]

*NASA and Boeing are struggling

[@dreadtrain2846]

Mars is roughly 145x further away than the moon. Musk claiming humans are getting there in our lifetime seems laughable.

[@Wi2Low]

Sorry OP but please get educated. SpaceX has been ferrying astronauts for years without issue, and will go retrieve the stranded Boeing crew soon.

[@reneb86]

I applaud this channel for inviting this man to the show. I've seen the people on this channel regularly undermine science and scientists. Usually to either discredit or reinforce some political agenda it is discussing. But it takes humility and courage to sit down with someone that much smarter than you and let them speak, and ask earnest questions. Any move that stops this bastion of right wing thinking into becoming isolated from objective fact finding is one to support.

[@michaelrexrode3759]

Antarctica is balmy and clement compared to Luna and Mars, yet it still requires enormous and costly efforts to resupply and support human habitation.

[@pn2543]

Geoengineering Earth's climate to regulate global warming would be a lot cheaper than going to Mars

[@villisipuli5678]

Climate change killing humanity is far from our biggest conserns. And most likely climate change alone will never be able to make us go destinct completely..

[@deepcosmiclove]

@@ClockworkTony Might as well "geo-engineer" the Sun.

[@TheHzh82]

You can just as easily weaponise the methods of geoengineering and that’s going to be worse than a nuclear war.

[@creativesource3514]

It's a lot more than climate change that can threaten earth and life on it.

[@metriczeppelin]

@@pn2543 Our government is already geoengineering our weather, and as usual, not in a good way.

[@karlInSanDiego]

You started with the wrong premise. Elon Musk is a gullable con man. He is the farthest thing from a very smart man. He reads comic books, repeats that fiction as possible, and pays people huge sums of money to try to achieve comic book fantasies.

[@shou635]

Uh huh. Sure.

[@goodgood9955]

If u cannot protect ur species here, how will u protect it anywhere else?

[@Nemophilist850]

It's about not having all your eggs in one basket. The chances of rogue extrasolar asteroids taking out two neighbouring planets is astronomically low.

[@creativesource3514]

And so far we have protected our species here.

[@BlueSkiesTruthRadio]

What a wild exploration! I wish much success!

[@dreadtrain2846]

Oh wow, finally someone who isn't a charlatan or insane person! Is this the first time ever?

[@wayneellenbecker2908]

The way this guy thinks they would not have found America from Europe because no one could help them while they were going west to find India and hope they didn't fall off the end of the earth .

[@robertcerins]

Your next election is the greatest hurdle Americans have ever faced.

[@robfreeman5783]

Uh...I think it's safe to say there is no gravity in space, there is a ton of ionizing radiation, and Mars is about 600 times farther from the earth than the moon. Not sure many people understand the significance of those facts. Elon does, but he knows regular people don't, and so they they will buy into his BS.

[@MrMjolnir69]

Make America Kennedy Again

[@bluenick4577]

Most scientists are close minded frauds

[@thomasfarin663]

Don't forget every fake promises of innovation and also all failure as transforming the lead to gold (it is possible yes but take so muche énergie that it's not worth it) the goal is to carefully see the pros and cons. EVERY "INNOVATION" ARE NOT A PATH TO TAKE!

[@Micloren]

Reporter asked George Mallory (first to climb Everest) why? He said, “Because it’s there.” Never underestimate genius & the innate human desire to adventure. It’s an inspiring duo (Musk).

[@teresatano193]

He climbed it. He didn't move there.

[@angeliiique-p7s]

It is possible to overestimate what mankind can do.

[@Micloren]

@@angeliiique-p7s History proves you wrong.

[@angeliiique-p7s]

@@Micloren How?

[@Micloren]

@@angeliiique-p7s The fact that mankind went from living in caves to flying helicopters on another planet is proof enough.

[@geoff3103]

my only beef about did we or didn't we go to the moon is why hasn't technology improved since then? Pulling off a feat like that should've resulted in advancements in other areas of engineering.

[@nikosniko7092]

Van Allen radiation belt not in the direction of mars

[@geoff3103]

@@nikosniko7092 ok. And?

[@Billy-u8s]

It did!!!

[@geoff3103]

@@Billy-u8s from over 50 years ago? it has not

[@Billy-u8s]

@@geoff3103 Dude get some education about all the spin off from NASA.

[@jameslife-z1r]

They could send the Optimus robots first to set it all up for when the first humans arrive

[@william53]

Would have enjoyed more on habitability of Mars!

[@daveg5857]

I'm 100% in favor, if he pays for it, and he goes first. The sooner the better.

[@amorosogombe9650]

It makes more sense to develop a colony on the moon than on Mars.

[@wolfen210959]

Exactly, we already know that humans can barely survive in a low gravity environment, and not for very long, curtesy of the ISS. There will be a colony on the moon long before there will be a colony on Mars, because there will be thousands of problems to solve, some minor, some major, so the best place to discover what those problems are is right on our doorstep, not 18 months away, assuming the planets of Earth and Mars align correctly, which they infrequently do.

[@amorosogombe9650]

@@wolfen210959 Totally agree. Yes there's the horrible ultrafine moon dust etc. to contend with, but it's only a problem on the surface and hardly insurmountable. People will figure out how to make use of it. What I find interesting, is simpler things, like how they always have really complicated magnetic boots or gravity generators in sci fi, etc. but on the moon, you can just give people really heavy boots if you want them to walk normally. That will do the trick. If I give you a 10kg lead weighted boot, that's like wearing a 1kg shoe on earth, it's not that hard or high tech to stop you bouncing around and have you walking normally with even the most basic of today's material science. Eminently more practical. Also this "interplanetary species" waffle. The asteroid that took out the dinosaurs, didn't also take out the moon. You don't have to be THAT far away to survive. A thriving moon colony looking back at earth and vice versa means that after sh*t cools off, the 'lunartics' can always come back to earth and repopulate it, if it ever really came to that. It just makes so much more sense on so many levels. Moon first. Mars is a long shot. Literally.

[@antonystringfellow5152]

There are pros and cons to both. The moon is closer but it's an even more hostile environment. Mars maybe much more distant but it has far more gravity than the Moon and a day that's 24 hours 37 minutes long. It also has a little atmosphere which is enough to protect against small meteorites.

[@Nemophilist850]

Both are in the works.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

@@wolfen210959 ISS is a zero gee environment. which is far different than low gee environment, which we have no evidence isn't safe for long term human habitation. The moon is closer, that's its only advantage. It also takes more energy to land on, has razor sharp dust that holes suits and causes respiratory issues, two week long nights without solar power, massive temperature swings between near absolute zero nights and 280 degree days, and a worse radiation environment than Mars. Finally the moon is devoid of water, carbon and useful resources. Each Starship is designed to land 100 tons of supplies, equipment and people on Mars for multiyear stays. The temperature range is far more tolerable, there is C02 atmosphere and underground water at every latitude to make fuel from, big nickel-iron meteorites sitting on the surface to be used as raw materials for metal production, and radiation levels low enough that it has little effect on long term cancer rates.

[@LunaKaiFloat]

They are already on Mars

[@perigee1275]

Hostile is an understatement. If anybody really knew what it was like they would never go there.

[@TheDennys21]

"Elon Musk is a smart guy." Good one man! 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinhaynes9091]

Don't believe them Elon, Mars is perfect for colonization. You can definitely breathe on Mars, and there's plenty of water. You'll love it, and I promise to write...

[@wolfen210959]

Hahaha, i hope he is the first person to climb into the colonisation rocket, wandering around in the giant capsule, with artificial gravity so his bones won't melt, it'll be fine, I promise.

[@anonymoushonesty2688]

Imagine hating a guy for this. He even said many people will die. You've all sold you soul to the marxist globalist machine.

[@JohnSmith-zo6ir]

The ocean is a hostile environment yet we sail the high seas in canoes, boats and passenger liners. This guy needs to have a soy coffee and a soggy biscuit. 😮

[@AntiLifeEquation1]

We don't even have the technology to fully explore our ocean depths, and people think we're going to Mars?

[@mervstash3692]

Lol the ocean isn't Mars champ.

[@JohnSmith-zo6ir]

@@mervstash3692 You missed the point. Humans adapt and innovate in hostile environments. Look around you on earth. Volcanoes, earthquakes, ice, cold, heat, deserts, tornadoes, oceans, gravity, fires, floods, storms etc. Those are all hostile environments yet we adapt. We build ships, dams, buildings, air-conditioning, heaters, build infrastructure in the desert to pipe water into a desert like Dubai, we reclaim land and build on it, we drill for water and oil, we build space rockets, weapons. We overcome challenges. Mars will be no different. We have already conquered space and we will continue to do so. All this guy did was list out the problems, but offered no solutions. Any moron can do that.

[@mervstash3692]

@JohnSmith-zo6ir lol we adapt do we? You sure it's not just that fk loads of people died & we moved on? You know how they pipe water into the Dubai? With truck loads of money. Literally the richest guys on the planet. Where is the water on Mars? At the poles. Do you have any comprehension the cost involved of building a means to transport ice from the poles to the habitable zones on the equator? There isn't enough money on Earth. Not to mention the obvious, people have lived in deserts across the Earth for tens of thousands of years. It's not like people only just started living there. The same goes for all those other extremes you mentioned. This is just one of a thousand huge hurdles which it is just impossible for humans as they all require huge technological advances which will not exist in this lifetime or if ever.

[@denysvlasenko1865]

@@mervstash3692 > Where is the water on Mars? At the poles. False. The water is also in permafrost everywhere - detected by ground-penetrating radars.

[@babyvaso3855]

In an age where scientist prove their former theories wrong over and over, to believe what has been written is beyond asinine.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

". . . to believe what has been written is beyond asinine". 😅😂. No, what is beyond asinine is your comment because in the first place scientists do not prove or disprove their theories. Scientists collect evidence to support or to recommend a theory be revised. And of course scientists get a wrong sometimes, many times, but they are human too after all!! How do you think our society has progressed as fast as it has without scientists being right about their theories anyway?? Your comment is so vague and general that it highlights YOUR lack of understanding of science!! And people often try to ridicule or discredit that which they don't understand! You just PROVED that old adage!!

[@LysdexicPadna]

Fascinating video.

[@JohnWhite-z5n]

This guy is a genius, listen to every word he says

[@terrymckenzie8786]

Dr. Kipling has way more intelligence on mars than Musk could ever hope for. Musk,s problem is he’s a bit of a hustler businessman. Not a space expert.

[@markkuuss]

Musk briefly attended Stanford University to pursue a Ph. D. in applied physics and materials science. I think humanity needs "new adventures" and crazy ideas just to push the boudaries of science et claiming it is "impossible" is a wrong approach. I will happen in 30 years though, not now.

[@todpalmer2545]

musk is a con man.

[@rsouthwick]

PBD wants so bad to believe the Earth is Flat.

[@THX-vx6ei]

Hope so

[@SimpreOroNuncaPlata]

It is

[@Florida27]

It's definitely not a sphere circling the sun 😂

[@7-z7y]

I'm assuming that musk plans on sending robots and raw materials there first to create a working, sustainable habitate..... then sending competent people, then sending convicts, nuclear waste, etc,etc....

[@MariaMartinez-xm4fl]

😂😂😂 😅😅😅 😭😭😭

[@Chayliss]

I also had that image randomly yesterday. Shoot a.bunch of supplies ahead Robots and automation etc.. Nuclear needs water Or atleast how about some ground penatrating radar? I'd goto that scidona face first myself. Maybe mars got f'd up by a pole shift or how things change inside planets One of these resets earth has might not have a reset button. But they won't even do the basics of protecting our grid.

[@7-z7y]

@anon-o8y All prisons are run by a warden, guards..... unless you think they would self govern. Initially it would require people who actually understood how to develop a planet scientifically, all aspects of it. How stupid is that

[@terrymckenzie8786]

If we go to mars, it’s at least a thousand years away. This Kipling guy is the smartest dude on the planet now, and as he says him and his peers don’t see this happening. Follow his channel Event Horizon, best show on the internet.

[@mikeottersole]

​@@terrymckenzie8786 A thousand years? We have spacecraft right now that can get there in half a year. To say 1,000 years is silly.

[@aidan_king]

Oh wow I was thinking we could go to Mars in a coat, thanks for clearing that up buddy.

[@johanjohansson925]

Great interview! 🤓

[@derekspringer1596]

We won't see humans on Mars in our lifetime. Just no point.

[@biggiesmalls7939]

Unless you're in your 70s, yes we will..... back in the early to mid 60s, 99% of people believed getting men on the moon was impossible. There is a soft target date set to get a crew on mars by 2036. Zero chance it'll be on time though. Mid 2040s we will see a human on Mars.

[@CASTSTONE]

We might but it'll just be a visit, not a colony or anything like that.

[@Freesoul999]

Visiting is not a problem. Settling up is far ahead. I hope it happens in the next 30 yrs, crazy thing to see before I die but I think it'll take more than that

[@wolfen210959]

@@biggiesmalls7939 I doubt very much that we shall ever see humans on Mars. The risk for any humans traveling to the moon was considered too great, and too expensive to continue with, there is no way anyone is going to Mars in any of our lifetimes. There is a much greater chance for humans to travel to the asteroid belt, and that is for one reason only, money. Mining companies are drooling about the rare metals that proliferate in the asteroid belt, and we all know that money talks, while bulls**t walks.

[@SteveSmith-ze5mw]

Most of the things that will ever happen wont happen in your lifetime. Doesnt mean theres no point. Boneheaded way of looking at things.

[@geofromnj7377]

Colonizing Mars to save human consciousness is beyond laughable, beyond ridiculous. It a concept that a billionaire can espouse and because he's a billionaire, other seemingly rational people don't simply laugh the guy out of the room.

[@metriczeppelin]

Your comment is very short sighted and has little to do with billionaires. People laughed at Musk for his attempt to get to space with falcon1, but he did it. People laughed at Musk for his efforts to build an electric vehicle, now there's over 5 million of them on the roads. His Model Y was the best selling EV in the world in 2023. People laughed at Musk's attempt to land and reuse a rocket booster. In 2015 he did it with the falcon 9 and has over 300 first stage booster landings to date. His Starship project just this week successfully brought back it's booster from near orbit and was caught in mid air by the chop stick arms of his Mecazilla launch tower on it's very first attempt. The global space community said it couldn't be done. That's 4 and 0 so far. Go ahead, bet against him, please.

[@TheTerryscotttaylor]

Or it's an aspirational goal to give the organization a big focus, a BIG mission that no one can do all at once, but will act as a north star for multiple other projects. Making that profitable, I don't know exactly how you do that. But I think it's a solid leadership tactic. Show the team some fences to swing for, and collect the on base hits.

[@metriczeppelin]

@@TheTerryscotttaylor Spot on, Terry. Good call. 👍

[@jeriatrix4526]

Who's going to pay for all of it? In addition to all the technological problems involved, the cost very well could be beyond the capabilities of a single planetary civilization.

[@timchuk4916]

"You think you're important? You're outta here" 😂 puts everything into perspective

[@LuisTheGentleman]

Amazing chat

[@pedrosura]

Humanity will go to Mars eventually. But not with chemical rockets and solar panels. To believe it, shows a complete lack of understanding of the problem. Simply said, the hyperloop is a lot easier. How did that go? Anyone going from LA to San Fran faster than a jet and the price of a bus ride yet??

[@erwinvangrinsven9345]

The hyperloop is a idea from around 1980, it will never pass the firebrigade test.

[@rjlchristie]

Can we please put the hallucination that Musk is a very intelligent scientific or engineering genius to bed. He's a BS artist and self-promoting opportunist of the highest order, at truly Trumpian level.

[@zeebest1004]

If Musk is intelligent, TheRump is an honest, upstanding citizen!!

[@anonymoushonesty2688]

The degree of mental illness you display is a threat to civilization.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

He's one of the greatest rocket designers in history. Every single space engineer who has worked with him, from NASA, to industry heavyweights to SpaceX engineers agree he has an incredibly deep understanding of rocket engineering and leads every significant decision on every SpaceX rocket. Tom Meuller, the worlds greatest rocket engine designer, just tweeted about the meeting in 2020 he was at where Elon told the Starship lead engineers to delete the landing legs because they were going to have the tower catch the starship and booster. He said their jaws dropped, and last week, the worlds jaws dropped. Elon may also be a BS artist and self promoting opportunist, but he understands physics and technology at the highest levels and that's why he put his entire net worth into Tesla and SpaceX, and led all their efforts.

[@rjlchristie]

@@RandyHill-bj9pc "He's one of the greatest rocket designers in history...." Lols, you have a deluded concept of what engineering design involves, in rocket design or any other engineering field. You simply describe Musk presenting a concept vision, something most 10 year olds indulge in when drawing spaceships and racing cars etc. The nitty gritty of design and engineering is another thing altogether.

[@RandyHill-bj9pc]

@@rjlchristie Tom Mueller (greatest living rocket engine designer), Kevin Watson, Garrett Reisman, and Josh Boem have all attested that Elon is the lead rocket designer at SpaceX and leads or signs off on all decisions. Also Mueller has told the story of how Elon forced him to make changes to the Merlin engine to make it more easily re-usable, nearly ten years before it was ever re-used. Robert Zubrin, John Carmack, and numerous NASA engineers who had to work with him on projects attest to his deep understanding of all rocket engineering areas. Dan Rasky is on youttube talking about how Elon led the PICA make or buy decision. Eric Berger and Christian Davenport got numerous quotes from engineers inside and outside (NASA) SpaceX on how deeply involved Elon was in every key design decisions. Here are a few quotes with more detail. Robert Zubrin (leading aerospace engineer, inventor of nuclear salt water rocket, author of mars direct plan): "When I met Elon it was apparent to me that although he had a scientific mind and he understood scientific principles, he did not know anything about rockets. Nothing. That was in 2001. By 2007 he knew everything about rockets - he really knew everything, in detail. You have to put some serious study in to know as much about rockets as he knows now. " Liam Sarsfield (high ranking NASA engineer): "Most of all, he was impressed with Musk, who was surprisingly fluent in rocket engineering and understood the science of propulsion and engine design. Musk was intense, preternaturally focused, and extremely determined. “This was not the kind of guy who was going to accept failure,” Sarsfield remembered thinking. Throughout the day, as Musk showed off mockups of the Falcon 1 and Falcon 5, the engine designs, and plans to build a spacecraft capable of flying humans, Musk peppered Sarsfield with questions. He wanted to know what was going on within NASA. And how a company like his would be perceived. He asked tons of highly technical questions, including a detailed discussion about “base heating,” the heat radiating out from the exhaust going back up into the rocket’s engine compartment-a particular problem with rockets that have clusters of engines next to one another, as Musk was planning to build." Mosdell ( 10th SpaceX employee ). "Mosdell had showed up prepared to talk about his experience building launchpads, which, after all, was what SpaceX wanted him to do. But instead, Musk wanted to talk hard-core rocketry. Specifically the Delta IV rocket and its RS-68 engines, which Mosdell had some experience with when at Boeing. Over the course of the interview, they discussed “labyrinth purges” and “pump shaft seal design” and “the science behind using helium as opposed to nitrogen.” Reisman (former NASA astronaut) "What's really remarkable to me is the breadth of his knowledge. I mean I've met a lot of super super smart people but they're usually super super smart on one thing and he's able to have conversations with our top engineers about the software, and the most arcane aspects of that and then he'll turn to our manufacturing engineers and have discussions about some really esoteric welding process for some crazy alloy and he'll just go back and forth and his ability to do that across the different technologies that go into rockets cars and everything else he does."

[@Nostromo2144]

1. no magnetosphere - serious radiation problems (even just getting there!) 2. no nitrogen - we can't breathe pure oxy for any length of time, so we'd have to bring our own 3. no water (that we know of) 4. no natural oxygen 5. no food source or arable soil that we know of 6. no fuel/energy sources that are viable (other than solar perhaps) 7. no chance for the foreseeable future That is all. ;)

[@yamahaBassman]

Thank you! This is a more complete explanation and issue #1 is a very serious limitation

[@Nostromo2144]

@@yamahaBassman yeah my take is, build a moon base and settle that with humans for a few years to prove we can survive off earth. Then think about something as ridiculously complex & hard as colonising Mars. 🙄

[@Statsy10]

Actually that's not all: 8. The soil is toxic (Perchlorates), and sticks to equipment 9. The thin, wispy atmosphere makes landings VERY difficult 10. Extremely reduced gravity equals long term health problems 11. Colder than Antarctica (Lol! Stole these next three from the video) 12. Very far away (resupply takes two years) 13. Air pressure too low 14. Despite the thin atmosphere it still somehow has huge dust storms 15. A colony would be super expensive to build and maintain And finally and most importantly: 16. If the ultimate purpose of this is to extend humanity past a calamity that destroys Earth, then where is the colony going to get its microchips from? I just used that one example, but the reality is that just too many things need to be manufactured in factories by people on Earth.

[@stuartmccormick5372]

@@Statsy10 100 trillion dollar, pipe dream

[@Statsy10]

@@stuartmccormick5372 It absolutely is. For the record, I still think we should set foot on Mars as we did with the moon in the name of exploration and human achievement... but let's leave the colonies for the movies.

[@wolfpacksix]

The first problem is the fact that gravity is different on Mars. Something like 1/3 of Earth's. So, no matter how you make a habitat, you're going to deal with bodily deterioration because of the lower G.

[@djZur2]

Great video

[@luisquezada7394]

Musk is like Jordan, don’t ever challenge him because he will prove you wrong. 🐐

[@TheTerryscotttaylor]

jordan wasn't all that.

[@guslevy3506]

A dude who explores space by sitting on his computer is questioning the guy who is sending more rockets into space than any NATION on Earth. LOL…

[@mervstash3692]

Yeah he is. Deal with it

[@sailintothesun3421]

Musk did nothing but take his dad's african emarald mine money and invest it. Space x enginers put rockets in space, while your boyfriend posts cringe '420' memes on x. You Simp.

[@rickyshouseofcrap8600]

really he wants to save a bunch of nuts who cares if we disappear

[@boballen9095]

How would you, and Mr. Kipping feel about the relative viability of building orbital environments, up to and including a Dyson Sphere or less ambitiously, first one space elevator (Clarke), and then another, and eventually a Ringworld (Niven). Or to let go of the earth and instead in gavor of any number of potential Megastructures?

[@Ruisu-San]

Why do you think Musk is building AI robots for? These robots will be sent to Mars before humans. They will spend years preparing Mars to the right conditions for humans to arrive later.

[@wolfen210959]

Doubtful, the technology required to terraform another planet does not exist yet, otherwise we would already be using it, here on Earth.