More HARLEY DAVIDSON 2025 MODEL Rumors

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Are you expecting a new Model in 2025 from Harley Davidson?

[@briantrzebiatowski7873]

I am hoping they keep the road king and maybe have a road king cvo.

[@Anton_G_604]

Yes, the Bronx

[@tax905972]

You make more money than many other countries,so yes they will pay less.

[@scotty7663]

$2000 price increase will be the final nail in the coffin. RIP HD

[@carlbruhn1772]

Difficult to understand that move??

[@canadiankrispybacon]

@@scotty7663 I dunno, with the prices already, not sure if the $2k will do it…I’m thinking the Tariffs that President Trump will hit them with if they don’t get their asses home, where they belong, rather than using cheap labor…only to have a few parts slapped together in the US, allowing them to call it American made….that will be the nail or nails closing that coffin…not just them, John Deer as well. It’s time our companies come home, focus on employing the people who are your customers, while still making big profits (nothing against someone making a buck) maybe just not as much as they were making…are not only companies like HD and John Deer need to do…but all other companies as well. Time to focus on North America imho, we’ve given away too damn much over the last 3 decades. While China and other eastern Countries (quite frankly who hate us) have profited way too long. I don’t necessarily blame the companies, as they were just using the system to their advantage…it’s our governments who allowed this, changed the laws/rules giving away our resources, manufacturing jobs by the millions for their own agendas and 💰💰💰 ….at our expense…they’re to blame, and now imho enough is enough, and it’s time to correct, fix the damage our politicians have done.

[@BH-di8vb]

I actually hope you're right, HD deserves it.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

1. Maybe they should lower the salary of that CEO and they wouldn't have to increase the prices so much. 2. For the price you pay these bikes should ALREADY have the premium suspension installed at the factory. 3. RevMax...even if they made them here I wouldn't own one.

[@GregReynolds-h8d]

You can apply that to a lot of corporations. Yes, I know they are in business to make money, but CEOs don't need to make 100 times what a machinist makes

[@billk5735]

After all the controversy with Harley this summer, I've lost interest in the brand. Not getting rid of my bike but I haven't spent a penny on anything Harley since that and don't plan on doing so. Although I was planning on getting a new road glide, this controversy made me realized that I can't justify spending that much on a bike.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Agreed, I bought the bike, but not overly interesting in wearing the brand....in the store today...compared to even 5 years ago...the products quality, gloves, jackets etc, just seem cheap quality...with huge price tags...will probably pic up their Hwy pegs and a heal shifter (my 2024 RG doesn't come with one) but thats about it.

[@genefalgiani3211]

my 24 sg is a pos eletronic nitemare back at the shop

[@HDR20]

I have seen a lot of used 24 sg/rg in my area at dealerships. I guess, the new latest greatest novelty wore off. I cant get past the crap material and design to even want to ride one.With Harley coming out with the lease program they built a bike to last 3 years IMO

[@captainobvious5349]

​@@HDR20Harley leases bikes now??

[@HDR20]

@captainobvious5349 yep it's on their website

[@dougnorwood5447]

As of yesterday, my local dealer was full of new 24's & new 23's. What in the world will they do when the new 25's start rolling in.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

@@dougnorwood5447 what they did for me…I just picked up a 2024 RG Limited, now it was their rental, not really anything different than a Demo…and had a few miles on it..but still comes with the manufacturer warranty…for $28k 🇨🇦 or $20k 🇺🇸..damn our dollar sucks! They’re also going to store it til Spring (Winter here sux) and do a fresh service…that another $800 savings. Now with more likely than not the Tariffs that will be imposed in HD next year…I’m thinking the prices may even go up more….but yeah, imho it’s going to be, if not already a buyer market

[@markman7]

I've thrown tons of money at Harleys, but there is absolutely no way possible to upgrade my 2023 Wing Tour automatic.

[@millerb6335]

Hopefully Trump will implement the 25% tariff on products made outside the the USA and HD will reconsider importing their motorcycles from Thailand.

[@joemann3536]

Japanese bikes built in Thailand, or India are rock solid and will be a good thing for RevMax bikes. My 2023 Harley FXST I bought brand new was in 9 times for warranty issues which after 18 month and a New Dealer is finally solid the New Dealer(Faribault Harley-Davidson, Minnesota) fixed what my original dealer could not in 8 trips 280-1160 miles and my Harley is great now. my 2018 Kawasaki Zed 900 sport naked I bought in 2018 has 8000+ miles and she has never had any thing done except oil changes by me and a 7000 mile check-up by the Kawasaki dealer, new tires and plugs. in my 55+ years riding in 3 US states and in Germany never had a warranty issue with any metric bike that I owned...ever. I still hope Harley would produce a low soft tail machine with a bigger RevMax engine. I still LOVE my Harley and will do my best to keep her running. any how, stay in the wind. thanks for the report.

[@MikeRidesEU]

I have a feeling the cruiser line up will have different engines. The 114 will go 117 and the 117 will go 121. All with the new cooling heads. Just a thought. We ll see

[@andromedach]

I have zero issues with moving Rev Max manufacturing overseas if this allows Harley to lower prices and broaden the line up. Just keep the big twins as US made and all will be made. As for worrying about imported bikes being sold in the US with a Harley logo, that ship sailed long ago especially using Chinese designed and built bikes for the Harley new rider training programs.

[@whatsbruin59]

I traded my 2024 SG in for a 2024 Goldwing. Same price and a lot more extras that Harley charges for

[@carlbruhn1772]

What offerings did Honda have that were so appealing??

[@whatsbruin59]

@ heated grips , heated seat and backrest , adjustable windshield , adjust the shocks on the computer. Stereo is way louder than Harley with 4 speakers , when you walk away from the bike saddlebags and trunk automatically lock

[@carlbruhn1772]

@whatsbruin59 That's very substantial. My curiosity has been peaked. THANKS!

[@whatsbruin59]

@@carlbruhn1772 also the front suspension is a double wishbone which make the front end very smooth

[@King-wy5on]

You have a microwave now?

[@recub13]

What you seem to be missing on pricing is the entry point. In 2023 the base RG or SG was 22k. 2024 the base entry for a RG or SG already went up 4k to 26k. Forget the options / paint / special / chrome vs black. Harley made the touring entry point way higher. You can’t buy a chrome “standard” anymore for 22k. The dealer walks you to a “base” model for 26k. And that’s for a 24 before the anticipated extra 2k for a 25…. I’ve owned a bunch of Harley’s over the past 25 years. Mostly under a year old used and saved multiple thousands on each bike. Bought a couple brand new and it’s just not worth the dealer battles. Never again. I’ve also owned several other brands and currently have a German ADV after buying and selling a Pan America. Harley is killings themselves imo producing bikes with issues, horrible inconsistencies and QC, and terrible warranty service imo. The aftermarket is really the only thing that keeps me riding Harley’s at this point.

[@MrChancebozey]

If the rumor doesn't have to do with losing the idiot at the top and the fools that hired him then it ain't worth even a whisper.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

You know the CEO has been on the Board for 15 years, so every BOD Member brought in the last 15 years probably has loyalty to him…. It’s going take shareholders to make a change

[@thefactorymatch]

I see people talk smack about these new ones and having problems but I’ve never met anyone in person have anything bad to say about them. I’ve heard the $2k rumor as well. Thanks for another great video!

[@frankfurther3828]

Talk to the thousands of recalled owners and the thousands of electronically stranded riders.

[@JA-zh5xi]

If you search left over new 2023 models the vast majority are rev max garbage. The price increase is a terrible idea.

[@87ricer]

Your information videos are Top Notch have a wonderful holiday hope you enjoyed time with friends n family

[@hizacaine]

It's been a while since the last touring frame changes; it shouldn't be too much of a surprise it the motor co finally unveils a new monoshock touring model with active suspension.

[@MrSkurtenb]

It exists….we seen it. Been waiting to see when it makes it to production. Bean counters make the call

[@charleyrider9775]

My local dealer still has 2023 Road Glide ST and Street Glide ST sitting in their warehouse.

[@speaktruth247]

I hope they bring more sub $15k models

[@fredbarreto4]

Harley needs to get rid of zeitz! Raising the price is going to be suicide. People can’t put food on their table let alone buy a new overpriced motorcycle. If sales didn’t do well in the past couple of years it’s about to get a lot worse.

[@captainobvious5349]

Buddy, if you can't put food on your table, I'd like to think you're sure AF not considering the purchase of a motorcycle, let alone a HD.

[@williamjohnson6517]

​​@@captainobvious5349what he's getting at is he can put a 💩load more food on the table by buying a reasonably priced bike .Harley is putting the prices up and yet anyone I know that's actually purchased a new bike has either got rid of it or is bitching about it what with issues and cheaper construction. I'm keeping my two older models and yes I could afford a new one ( ain't NEVER gonna happen again )

[@captainobvious5349]

@williamjohnson6517 Buddy, I'm on a new(er) HD#3, and as we speak, it has an error code that (2) HD "mechanics" can't figure out. Error P0131h The bike ONLY had 1,400 miles on it and has been in the shop 3xs. I am MORE than pissed with HD right now!! I've owned 7 bikes in total, and NONE of my other non-Harleys were ever in the shop, EVER!!! I agree 1000% Japanese bikes are far superior in quality and maintenance

[@patrickcaudill2939]

Don’t understand why Harley can’t upgrade the base suspension, without having to purchase the Ohlins pieces.

[@briantrzebiatowski7873]

Hey Mike, let’s just say there is a 2K price increase in 2025. As part of the justification, what if HD unlocked NAV, painted inner fairing, and maybe the garage door opener from the factory? These at the factory would be less than having the dealer install and they can still have a price increase.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Maybe but I think the nav is powered by 3rd party so not sure licensing for it will change, I like inner fairing but don’t care about the opener personally, I bought a mini one for $10 to keep in my drawer with Velcro

[@HDR20]

Not Harley MO. They love taking away stuff and raising the price. Give it a few years, and the tires will be extra. They will ship bikes out without handlebars, seats, footboards, etc., and charge extra if you want them or charge it as a package.

[@ericmcelroy6970]

Only way I’d be remotely tempted to buy one of these new ones would be if they would bring back the Road King with that 117 and new suspension. Like the idea of the 117.

[@frankfurther3828]

That 117 you think you need will also travel on public highways at over 100 mph just like every big twin made since 1936.

[@Dynachop420]

@@frankfurther3828since 36 yeah right no knuckle pan or shovel is traveling at 100 anywhere they would fall apart in a couple miles

[@frankfurther3828]

@@Dynachop420 maybe yours would if you owned one.

[@Dynachop420]

@@frankfurther3828 I have two Harley’s and was a Harley tech for years but unless you got some different sprockets and a different gear set your not cruising a old knuckle pan or shovel at a 100 without it falling apart just facts

[@bigj200016]

I think we’re not going to see a ton new this year. A 35th anny Fat Boy, maybe with some CVO love, but that’s it. Possibly some softails moving to twin cooling, and maybe the end of the 107

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I agree 35th anniversary fat boy I think some cocktails with ride modes and maybe twin cooling

[@stevenrice8439]

I don't think Harley really cares if they have a sub $20,000 motorcycle for sale in America.

[@Whisky148]

As a consumer looking to buy my first cruiser, Harley is making bad business decisions.

[@frankfurther3828]

do yourself a favor- buy used.

[@Whisky148]

@frankfurther3828 that's what I've been hearing a lot lately.

[@dynabungie]

I think it's smart with Harley-Davidson did just making a base street glide and road glide and then with accessories you can do the long haul package or the ST package and Taylor the bike and to what you want instead of having a bunch of different models. We all know that everybody that buys a Harley generally customizes it to their taste and preferences anyways so why have four different models of the same bike?

[@brandonnickerson8934]

I agree. A la carte is the best. I bought a king tour pack for my 24 rg. At 6'4" I didn't like the lowers on the limited, felt cramped.

[@highwayman1218]

Absolutely. The best bang for the buck for a performance bagger build is buying the base and building. All the stuff on the overpriced and marked up STs is in the dumpster anyways on a true performance bagger build.

[@brandonnickerson8934]

​@@highwayman1218 Another valid point.

[@highwayman1218]

@@brandonnickerson8934 Actually if I was to build my bagger ripper again, I'd of gone with a base roadking and done the fxrt fairing vs streetglide base. 👍

[@rogermurph101]

I bought a Street Glide in 2022, brand new. $22k. Didn’t want a Special, I like the aesthetics of the standard model more. A 114 would have been nice, but not worth $6k. Considering everything you get with the ‘24 models, $26k seemed like a fair price. Bump that up to $28k and I’m out of the market for new SG’s pretty much forever. Not that I couldn’t afford one, I’m just not willing to pay that much for one. Nice move HD.

[@Puttnutt24]

Last video you mentioned independent rear suspension on the Trikes. Your thoughts now?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I haven’t heard anything new regarding that. Because I heard that suspension upgrades were not gonna be from the factory. I’m reluctant to speculate that the trikes will get a suspension upgrade.

[@frankfurther3828]

Trikes today like the ones they built from 1932-1973 are merely 3-wheeled tractors.

[@cornbread8246]

Hey Man Mountain Mike, that’s a pretty steep price increase you are talking about for 2025. That’s far outpacing inflation. With the rumors about tariffs on imports, I don’t think you will see any pricing cuts on the Revmax models. It will be eat up by the tariff cost. JZ needs to rethink sending manufacturing to Thailand. Maybe bring Revmax manufacturing back to the US and send JZ to Thailand. Y’all peace out. I’m out for now.

[@2hotFL]

So the price goes up on the RG and SG, and it looks like the Limited's are going away. I just can't imagine how much it's going to cost to turn the current SG and RG into anything resembling a Limited.

[@FFL-vg9ro]

Ummmmm . . a tourpack and lowers . . . Not that hard.

[@2hotFL]

@@FFL-vg9ro Does anyone even know if lowers will work on the new SG or RG with the new cooling set up? Rear bag guards, rear speakers, front driving lamps, heated grips. Not really a limited to me without all that stuff. I'm betting it would add up quick.

[@ChadLand011]

A proper Low Rider non S model. Chromed out with mag wheels, 2 into 1 pipe, gauges on the tank and colors or 2 tone paint.

[@UnrulyRider]

I'll keep my 2023 White Sand Pearl FXLRST

[@Prometheus1979]

I knew that price wasn’t going to last. Going back up to their original price of a bagger by 2 grand on top of already really low sales of these new models with dealerships already hurting to try and sell them is a bad outlook for the new year next year for Harley. I’ll be keeping my 23 Roadglide-ST forever. This is probably my last Harley. I do not like the new bikes massive computer screen and non painted inner ferring with their dull looking thin paint jobs and 2 grand more for that now. Not a good outlook for Harley or the dealerships next year. This is going to piss a lot of people off.

[@harleyquebecenrevue3580]

Your Point # 1: introducing the 2024 SG & RG at $2000 lower price was a mistake. It certainly did not help improve sales. That money should have been used to offer 1.9% financing, or $2500 parts, service & accessories, or maintenance free for 3 -4 years or extended warranty or cash rebate if not financing. They just gave away promotional incentive money with no sales increase in return. Did the $2000 lower price really excite you to buy your new bike or was it the free handle bars and install that got you excited. What if dealer would have offered you the $2000 more on your trade in? Limited time offers always get people to buy now, lower suggested list price do nothing to excite people. Most of all, every owner of pre-2024 model took a hit on the resale value of their bikes. But hey, I don’t have sales experience with running shoes so what do I know about motor sales.

[@jagjr6772]

Trump’s tariffs will fix any price decrease planned for the Thailand built bikes for import to the US. As well ant true Harley Davidson customer will not have any desire to buy one.

[@Jasonracer]

I like your videos but I don’t get why everyone is so hung up on the gloss inner fairing, i have a 24 SG and i love the look of the inner fairing. Keep up the good work.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Maybe cause I’m used to having a painted interfering on my street glide special. It just seems off to me.

[@redleg23322]

Any thoughts on changes to the Road Glide 3 or Freewheeler?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@redleg23322 i haven’t heard anything but I think the new fairing has to come to the RG3 this year or next, I think this year would be best.

[@redleg23322]

@ hoping they get the twin cooled 117 as well on the Freewheeler and Road Glide 3

[@zavlo72]

I want a RG3 with new fairing/Skyline OS. And at least the 117

[@nathanh721]

Hopefully they have some two tone paint options. Also any rumor on the roadglide costing more than the street glide?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I haven’t heard that, but it wouldn’t surprise me with road glides out selling street glides two or three to one

[@thomasmackenzie5295]

What rumors are you hearing about Softails. Are they going to be phased out entirely? Perhaps there is a Wide Glide tribute model in the works.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I don’t see them getting rid of the soft tails. They’ve trimmed the line down as far as the number available models but I don’t think they’re going anywhere.

[@FFL-vg9ro]

Phasing out softails???? Seriously? Please stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking.

[@twistieslayer3592]

Hopefully they make a Fat Boi S. In all black with a 121, upgraded tech package and upgraded suspension.

[@haroldhass5180]

Ohlins installed on my 19 roedglide, no big deal but there also made in Thailand. Hard to find anything made in the US anymore.

[@joncuti7465]

They look cheaper

[@azadr9231]

Are there any rumors about the softails? Here in Australia, there are well-founded rumors that the Sport Glide and Fat Bob won't be sold anymore in 2025. That's sad because the Sport Glide sells really well here and is a fan favourite. I hope we get a new Softail or significant upgrades to the exisring line up.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I don’t hear much about the foreign markets where the sport glide is still available. I think it’s a great bike, but I’m afraid the Lowrider ST is just simply going to out sell it and make it difficult for Harley to justify keeping it in the lineup.

[@brendan_13]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they go.

[@gregmannos]

My local dealer said the launch will be 3rd week of Jan. FWIW.

[@13_Cowboy]

ST just needs to have a hotter tune and taller suspension for better lean angle. I don’t know anyone who brought the ST for the paint.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

The new 24 street glides have the taller suspension already and higher compression with more HP &Tq then the 2023 ST models.

[@markjacobs3956]

Royal Enfield sold 15,000 bikes ten years ago. This year, it'll be over a million. That's real growth and math. HD math is a fantasy in this economy.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Bulk of those sales are mostly in Domestic markets and do you know what the tariffs are in India for HD to import into India? The culture for motorcycles is entirely different in these 2 different markets, not really and apple to apples comparison. HD is trying to break into that market with the X440 collab with Hero.

[@markjacobs3956]

So RE sales going up 1000% in 10 years wold wide is because of tariffs... maybe if Harley-Davidson would not cater purely to a rich older customer for the past 10 years things would be better for them. Their new smaller capacity bikes are too little to late and every current HD rider would chastise anyone with a penis for riding one. HDs own customers and the woke management are their worst enemies.

[@talkingrock7011]

Sorry but you couldn’t give me a 2024 model , I don’t need a TV screen for a dash ! Mike you are like me only one man’s opinion

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Never claimed to be special, I just share my opinion and thoughts on social media…

[@carlbruhn1772]

Perhaps moving all production to Thailand and headquarters to Ireland.

[@aaronjohnson9984]

As far as the Rev Max models go, I am not too worried about them being foreign made. After all Indian still makes the FTRs and the new for 2025 Scout models in the USA still for those that are American Patriots that prove it with their wallets.

[@feline-n6b]

anything about a navigation app in dash

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Wait til President Trump hits HD with the Tariff increases🤔...especially for Canadians, with our dollar every $1000 US is $1400cnd, on $20000, thats $28000.00 Cnd...Yikes! I was told today...The Road Glide LTD will be dropped, you will buy a basic RG, and build during the purchase process...so no lowers, beer box for example...I just picked up a 2024 RG Limited...dealer rental with 5K miles...in perfect condition, all updates, warranty and serviced...will even store it for me...Reg price $500 cnd along with negotiated $12K discount. I thinking with all the increases coming, tariffs etc., in Canada anyway to get the spec I just bought will be pushing $50K Cnd.

[@1hdoilfielddad244]

They arent selling so raise the price. Genius.

[@ausforce1]

If HD puts the prices up again, they are dead as a company. Next stop, KTM

[@creigmacc]

Lots of leftover fire sale machines here in York Pa. Lots.

[@LilWixxy]

My lowrider st was assembled in Thailand i think all the bikes for Australia do.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

They are, I don’t know the quality of the issue, but Harley Davidson has always promised that Bikes sold in the USA would be made in the USA so this is a big change in direction

[@LilWixxy]

@RidingintheOzarks I got told f9r us in Australia we are getting a usa made bike assembled in Thailand to keep cost down and avoid import taxes. But in saying that the lowrider st is still 38k here.

[@kmeades43]

Yep man. My 22 CVO RG was also made in Thailand

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@LilWixxy that’s crazy!

[@brendan_13]

No way I’d pay that with made in Thailand on the side.

[@captainobvious5349]

$2000 price increase, ONLY to swap out the suspension, seat, exhaust, and windscreen. 😂😂😂

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@captainobvious5349 I’m good with the suspension and that’s why I bought a 24, saved me 2k 😎

[@thomascarpenter7415]

Zero f$&@ given …. I have a 2018 RGS that’s set up to my liking , and a 2023 Heritage. I’m 62 and done buying bikes .. any bikes . These two will last the rest of my riding life…

[@stevenpierce4359]

I just got old

[@packrat1204]

Personally the new bikes are ugly . As for price and power train still not impressed. Lots of problems electric and engine wise . My friends new 24 spends more time in the shop electric and it keeps having coolant leak at number 2 head . I’ll stay with my 19 limited . And if I do buy another bike it will be an Indian .

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

2025 models? the dealers here are full of 24.s and still marking up over msrp🤣🤣🤣, the rev max models are toast, Mr. T gonna put a tarrif on those bikes most likely so those jobs come back. im still waiting for the soy glide to come out. the Electric Bagger.

[@RobertMcGuirk-x1h]

Harley used bike prices in total collapse NYC dealership goes out of business and Harley is going to increase the price. Right when new riders want smaller affordable bikes. Sound just like Harley. That foreign CEO is going to finish the company off and no more Harley. Nice

[@fifiandmax]

Ide like to see a springer icon. But doubt it very much

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I don’t think we will ever see a factory Springer again.

[@curlymaplebandit3107]

Stop making bikes at the rainbow factory. Harley used to have ballz, now it’s just an empty sack.

[@RalphMalone-mw1qo]

I have rode my 24 Road Glide all summer and it is not my most favorite bike it has a lot of mediocre Parts on it

[@RidingintheOzarks]

What don’t you like about it? I’m genuinely interested?

[@steved9284]

My road glide cvo st is made in Thailand maybe just for Europe . I don't know. $$$#

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Because of EU tariffs

[@bigjohnson9561]

Harley will do whatever it takes to make their stockholders happy. It’s a corporation exercising capitalism which knows no borders to manufacture or sell its products.Americans need to come to that reality where we have to compete globally instead of looking for protectionism and isolation.

[@zavlo72]

Rumors of a new 25 vrod.????

[@UnrulyRider]

Nope.

[@DC-so2cp]

under powered and way overpriced. you get a lot more bike for less money with Indian, Triumph, Ducati, Honda, etc.

[@tonypalermo5796]

Harley in the toilet. Overpriced junk

[@bestbudgetiptv3040]

All Harleys are overpriced, ugly , and out of reach for the beginner rider..

[@charlesrocks]

I’m 40. I’m riding Honda’s and Triumph and Suzuki motorcycles. I’ve spent close to $40k for all three bikes which would get me one dumbass Harley. The Breakout is their best bike. To be fair, At $20k, it’s a bargain.

[@robertcorrigan3816]

One Big thing bad about Harley's being made in Thialand is that Thialand is part of China????????

[@creigmacc]

No. It's. Not.

[@BrapcityH-D]

nope not true

[@frankfurther3828]

Without structural changes at the "Motor" Company that bring it back towards its roots, the 2025 MY will be its last. F Jochen, F the 40 engine variants, FVVT, FCVO.

[@gunz2090]

Rediculous having European CEOs ...Obvious with Harley... Take a look at Stellantis, now also destroying Jeep

[@gunz2090]

How about a 121 on a non CVO?.... That would be the upgrade I'd want on maybe an ST... I'd probably be a buyer.....Would like to be able to do a 135 kit without buying CVO

[@RidingintheOzarks]

You can put a 135 in a non CVO. I don’t see 121 in anything but a CVO till they give the CVO something bigger, they may make CVO st models like the RG they made in 24

[@frankfurther3828]

why

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@frankfurther3828 they traditionally keep the larger engine size for CVO models to help justify the cost of CVO models

[@frankfurther3828]

@@RidingintheOzarks what does more displacement get you that can't be had by any other big twin besides conversation?

[@fifiandmax]

They should make the rev max in Taiwan

[@williamjohnson6517]

Dont know how Harley can drop the price of Rev Max or anything else made abroad. Because Trumps BACK baby and he's gonna hit anything that moves with BIG Tarrifs . Congratulations Harley yet another F UP 🤡s