Ridley Scott's New ALIEN Movie Plot REVEALED....And I'm Worried!!!

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@johnhaleii208
@johnhaleii208 Ай бұрын
Everyone seems to be ignoring that the engineer on LV-426 had been dead long enough to become fossilized. That does not happen over a few short years.
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
You seem to forget that a space trucker called it fossilised, and that fossilisation only happens when something is buried. Prometheus established it was a suit. Not a skeleton
@johnhaleii208
@johnhaleii208 Ай бұрын
@slang1517 Either way, it is established that the space jockey had been dead for a very long time.
@carnivorehitman
@carnivorehitman Ай бұрын
@@johnhaleii208correct. I think at some point it’s even estimated to have crashed thousands of years ago
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
@@johnhaleii208 No, that wasn't established. Again, it was merely said by some random space trucker. Dallas is not necessarily correct. Ridley has retconned the first movie.
@tedbundy4373
@tedbundy4373 Ай бұрын
​@@slang1517 you do know an average Joe can fly a spaceship so I believe Kane knew what fossilization is.
@371kenny
@371kenny Ай бұрын
This entire thing has become a mess. They should just have it that the engineers found xeno eggs billions of years ago and they have no idea how they were created, but the xenos were a species so perfect that the engineers have been trying to copy them for eons and have never succeeded. What would turn out is that the original form of the xeno was made from a face hugger and AI. Thus incorporating the biomecanhic life and art of H.R. GIGER again.
@lichslayer0045
@lichslayer0045 Ай бұрын
Now that's a Fitting Story then what's given by Ridley Scott
@kingbugs3558
@kingbugs3558 Ай бұрын
It was Ridley's introduction of religion that ruined it for me. The search for creators thing. I don't need to know the xenomorph creator and I damn sure don't need to know my own. And now we know aliens made us, we made android, android make alien, alien make other alien into other alien. This is why I liked Romulus, a simple enjoyable flick that didn't jerk itself off over "higher meaning".
@Kurt_Affair42
@Kurt_Affair42 Ай бұрын
They need to do what John Rambo told the sheriff in First Blood: "Let it go."
@justice5897
@justice5897 Ай бұрын
Damn totally agree 👍🏾
@Percival-kl9yy
@Percival-kl9yy Ай бұрын
​@@kingbugs3558 *So basically you're a happy little insect*
@jaybailey8175
@jaybailey8175 Ай бұрын
The best thing for the Alien franchise is for Ridley to leave it the fuck alone.
@tedbundy4373
@tedbundy4373 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@anubusx
@anubusx Ай бұрын
Definetly.
@pauscleanliving839
@pauscleanliving839 Ай бұрын
No.
@group-music
@group-music Ай бұрын
I'm hoping he expires before he gets to ruin any more films. The senile twat.
@RogueBeatsARG
@RogueBeatsARG Ай бұрын
nah, nobody can take the world and vibe he and his team created in 79, if you let anyone make Alien movies we will get generic hollywood trash, would be like fast and furious
@TheN1ghtwalker
@TheN1ghtwalker Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott is a pretentious hack. He didn't write the first movie, he didn't come up with the designs, he was just invited to direct it and he never did anything good for the franchise ever since. He made sure Neil Blomkamp's movie never happened because he was afraid Neil would upstage him like James Cameron did back in the day, he retconned good comics and instead made his two bullshit prequels. Why does he think that he owns this franchise? Get him out of there Disney. You have a chance to come back thanks to Romulus being decent but this guy will f*** everything up again because of his massive ego.
@CMDR_Verm
@CMDR_Verm Ай бұрын
I completely agree. I recently saw a post which described Sir Ridley as the ''God of Alien''. Well I'm sorry but he fucking well is not. Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett wrote the story, may Dan O'Bannon rest in peace, and anything and everything that was added afterwards is just icing on the cake (or not, in many cases). I'll admit Sir Ridley made an excellent job of directing Alien, it wouldn't be so famous now if he hadn't. But that doesn't give him any more right than anyone else to further the story arc. It's a disappointment when the latest movie, Alien Romulus, is lauded as being the best instalment in a long, long time when it owes so much to the original movie, alien pathogens notwithstanding. Don't misunderstand me, I really enjoyed Romulus. Alvarez did a brilliant job. I'm just glad Scott got no closer to it than he ultimately did.
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
The damage is done already. I hated the prequels, but I say let Ridley do his final movie, simply because I’m curious to see how he can connect it to alien
@CMDR_Verm
@CMDR_Verm Ай бұрын
@@slang1517 For the sake of completion (and closure?) I'd agree. The problem arises when he messes it up for everyone else r/e the general story arc. And one has to consider that not everyone follows the Alien saga as much as some of us nerds, they don't necessarily know the lore and/or care. No blame there, it's personal taste. But, without running the risk of over-stressing a point hopefully, the general public and critics see any movie with a Xenomorph in it and label it under the same franchise label as all the rest. So, regardless of the director/writer/stars, if it's crap then it taints the rest. Then you end up with Alien nerds like myself posting endless comments and even I'm getting bored. Make it stop! 🙂
@ghostofwar5430
@ghostofwar5430 Ай бұрын
Yeah its mess but Neil's alien would be far over the top. C'mon....human controlled xenos and xeno suits on humans....just no. Im glad it didn't happen as much as i adore Neil's work on films and shorts
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
@@CMDR_Verm Face it, it's already messed up. The Space Jockey is now a human in a suit. Space Jockeys created humans by drinking goo and falling down a water fall. The alien is an experiment by a crazy android. The series is already ruined beyond all repair. Ridley killed it. It doesn't matter anymore.
@sigma_tron
@sigma_tron Ай бұрын
In Alien, when they find the ship, they say the Space Jockey is fossilized. That immediately gives the cosmic horror anxiety of so many possibilities as to what this means. The simple mystery adds layers. Trying to retcon this takes away so much.
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 Ай бұрын
Well said
@Guarayakha
@Guarayakha Ай бұрын
Ridley's ego would not allow him to recognize the existence of the queen (because it wasn't his idea) , and he had stated pretty much that he prefer more android/black goo story than making anything related to the xenomorph.
@kerbal666
@kerbal666 Ай бұрын
Bear in mind that Ridley was 42 in 1979 (which, oddly, is my age now, and he clearly seemed less jaded then than I am now), and that isn't the same Ridley at 86. Also, his brother's death (arguably a better director, too :/) did a number on him. Also, Cameron took his spooky haunted house in space monster film and 80s action man'ed it thus staked it into popular culture. The problem is now that people think giving the reigns to Ridley and away from the corpos that milked it the franchise will get back on track forgetting he's an old fart now obsessed with the meaning of life and death which is gonna show in his art. It should have been handed to Neill Blomkamp but the corpo milkers thought bolting Ridley's name on it would boost earnings but what we got was a great Ridley film but a ballbag Alien film with fingering androids trying to a better God than its creator! An idea they should have let him explore in Blade Runner instead of making him do Alien. I know I'm not speaking for myself when I say people want a follow-up to Aliens, not Alien! Space Marines vs Xenos based on the foundation of Cameron's film, not Ripley. Hell, I'll even compromise and say make the things actually bloody Lovecraftian scary again with the Marines losing their minds trying to face off this cosmic horror when shooting it doesn't work and not Jason X with guns and stupid people!
@Space_Logic
@Space_Logic Ай бұрын
THIS MAN HERE Need to be pinned as the Comment, which hits the NAIL on the HEAD..... however I do think Ridley (drinks his ego) and let Alvarez now take over, who seems like a true fan of the Fiction, IMO.
@KazeMunashii
@KazeMunashii Ай бұрын
no marines are overplayed and vietnam era aesthetics arent socially relevant anymore. its the same marines in 11 games, have something new.
@kerbal666
@kerbal666 Ай бұрын
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree just because there's been a space marine glut of some super soldier shooting space insects like 40K and StarCraft I'm not suggesting that. Nobody wants a starship troopers clone. You could easily have a story following Hicks and him dealing with PTSD on a level similar to the film such as Jacob's ladder or in the mouth of madness and it still could be an action movie. The comics have actually touched onto that. Also to say that it's not relevant anymore do you know how many wars America and Europe have been involved in since Vietnam I mean I don't know if you've seen the news lately mate there's a big one in Europe at the moment and the middle East as well.
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 Ай бұрын
@@KazeMunashii”socially relevant” in a space movie 🤦🏼‍♂️
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott was the one responsible for killing Neill Blomkamp's project. The "corpos" you bemoan are the ones who have given the talent-free Scott carte blanche with Brandywine's Alien IP and by extension Predator crossovers.
@mviouscosplay
@mviouscosplay Ай бұрын
Whoa. Who knew that Deathstroke was a big Alien franchise fan.
@RoaryUK
@RoaryUK Ай бұрын
Scott confirmed 3 very specific things years ago, not long after the Fox take over, to be precise. 1) David did not create the alien, he simply copied what the people on Planet 4 had done. 2) The people on Planet 4 were not Engineer's and their planet was not Paradise. 3) Space Jockey's and Engineer's are not the same thing, one created the other and they were trying to mimic their creator.
@bftvclips8925
@bftvclips8925 Ай бұрын
On the commentary of the movie "yes David created the aliens"
@tampakmurni
@tampakmurni Ай бұрын
@@bftvclips8925 this. On another commentary, Ridley specifically mentioned that he wanted to explore the "origin of the xenomorph" with covenant.
@Woozy.0
@Woozy.0 Ай бұрын
Sadly no. Ridley said David is their creator. It doesn't make sense, and it sucks, but it is what it is :(
@cancerconnoisseur
@cancerconnoisseur Ай бұрын
@@bftvclips8925 Doesn't matter what he said, the people in charge said "no" when they came out with the Roleplaying game.
@bftvclips8925
@bftvclips8925 Ай бұрын
@cancerconnoisseur the director knows his vision of his product
@BubbaThaumaturge
@BubbaThaumaturge Ай бұрын
The best solution is to stop with the remakes, reboots, and never ending sequels. Create something new. Look forward, not backwards.
@markcawley1
@markcawley1 Ай бұрын
Sil from Species would be a perfect lady in the dark.
@kellysmith1144
@kellysmith1144 Ай бұрын
Same designer, btw.
@andrewjansen1012
@andrewjansen1012 Ай бұрын
That makes sense
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 Ай бұрын
That would break the franchise like alien vs predator taking place in 2004 and 2007
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 Ай бұрын
​@andrewjansen1012 no it doesn't
@reverbtheraptor8529
@reverbtheraptor8529 Ай бұрын
I’ve said this multiple times, all they gotta do is just go boom, xenomorph planet exists. It’s been established in AVP lore (though I'm well aware AVP isn't canon to the Alien franchise) and it explains itself enough. Also technically David just made his own xenomorph and didn’t actually create the species which something that is understandably confusing because the whole prequel theme is origin and creation. Edit: Feel like I have to put this because people keep saying AVP isn't canon which I'm very aware of. I'm saying that the concept should also be applied to this franchise because it's a simple way to tell us enough without telling us too much and still keeps a good amount a mystery.
@MattD402
@MattD402 Ай бұрын
AvP is not canonical to Alien.
@RoaryUK
@RoaryUK Ай бұрын
There is no alien planet and never was in canon, they always were and still are a weapon, their creator and their home is where they're from.
@GavinAhamatJDM
@GavinAhamatJDM Ай бұрын
AVP is only canon to the predator franchise not the alien franchise
@IronPsyde
@IronPsyde Ай бұрын
It SHOULD absolute be canon. Not whatever this crap is
@davidjones8043
@davidjones8043 Ай бұрын
@@IronPsydeI agree and it’ll always be canon to me. No take-backsies
@katsuyaki7605
@katsuyaki7605 Ай бұрын
NO. Just NO. Someone needs to do an intervention on Scott and take the keys to the franchise away from him.
@jermainehaslam5634
@jermainehaslam5634 Ай бұрын
I would love to see Michael Fassbender to make a return to the franchise, he's the best android in my opinion because his god complex personality makes him creepy and so scary too.
@DavidMyrmidon
@DavidMyrmidon Ай бұрын
Yeah.. I wanna see that Plot tied up.
@garthhancock3373
@garthhancock3373 Ай бұрын
I can't for the life of me get behind the whole origin background bullshit. Some things are better off left mysterious, ambiguous, and just flat out unknown. That aspect in of itself, makes the whole concept of the Xenomorph even more terrifying. Ridley just needs to leave things alone.
@philipgreen8227
@philipgreen8227 Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more the alien/xenomorph was more interesting/terrifying when we knew nothing about it made it more unique
@mikewillis9537
@mikewillis9537 Ай бұрын
There didn't even have to be a mystery. They're animals that are really really good at surviving
@garthhancock3373
@garthhancock3373 Ай бұрын
@mikewillis9537 how could they cut the power man!? They're animals!
@richardmcleod2791
@richardmcleod2791 Ай бұрын
​@@garthhancock3373that's Cameron's crap Not Ridley's
@richardmcleod2791
@richardmcleod2791 Ай бұрын
The Xenos true origin is still unknown
@braydensurvivez
@braydensurvivez Ай бұрын
The alien covenant script: “people who have traveled in space for years get side tracked by a side quest, didn’t wear a helmet and got space covid,Amanda gets bodied by ripley, David plays among us, David 2 was not the imposter,David wins. Bro gets a whole human far to make his knock off.” Ripley: “cinema😫”
@gusframe2259
@gusframe2259 Ай бұрын
As someone else posted, Ridley didn't write the first movie. It seems to be obvious after Prometheous that he doesn't have the skills or talent to movie the subject matter forward without screwing up the IP. The man can't remember the timelines from the movie or expanded universe. The David storyline makes no sense to me. If the Space Jockey was infected centuries before being found, how could David be the creator of the Zenomorphs.
@dkminion
@dkminion Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott has not had it for 25yrs He did not create the Alien Franchise he just went back when he lost ideas.
@Xenosaurian
@Xenosaurian Ай бұрын
AVP and AVPR already takes place before Prometheus and Covenant, so that already contradicts that notion of David creating the Xenomorphs (XX121), and Alien: Earth doing it is just icing on the cake! The whole idea that Ridley Scott was going for is horrendous...
@DUDNHAIDR4EVER
@DUDNHAIDR4EVER Ай бұрын
So hey...uhm...you can just say you arent an alien fan. The avps are in their own seperare universe or even maybe the predator universe. Avp movies arent canon to the alien universe bc 1. ridely scott confirmed it and 2. it wouldnt even make sense storywise even for the older movies. Let me explain it like this: xenos exist in the predator universe but the predators dont exist in the alien universe
@danielpeckham5520
@danielpeckham5520 Ай бұрын
AVP movies are set in a different timeline and are not canon to the other Alien films, same as the Alien tv series is apparently just going to ignore Prometheus and Covenant
@Xenosaurian
@Xenosaurian Ай бұрын
@@danielpeckham5520 They are not, they are set in the exact same universe and are absolutely canon to the other Alien films. The Alien TV series is also just as canon as AVP. But lets go with your reasoning and lets say Prometheus and Covenant isn't canon to the Alien films.
@peterforlifer2126
@peterforlifer2126 Ай бұрын
​@DUDNHAIDR4EVER they are all in the same universe plenty of written material on it
@DUDNHAIDR4EVER
@DUDNHAIDR4EVER Ай бұрын
@@peterforlifer2126 again aliens exist in the predator universe but no predator exists in the alien universe
@raulecheverria5611
@raulecheverria5611 Ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Prometheus and Covenant were rolling in the right direction. Romulus is great but i wanted them to continue off of Covenant
@Dhampire1976
@Dhampire1976 Ай бұрын
"unpopular opinion" says a popular opinion. Attention seeker
@raulecheverria5611
@raulecheverria5611 Ай бұрын
@Dhampire1976 ya momma
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
👎
@AS--999
@AS--999 Ай бұрын
Ridley's ideas just sound like b-movie level fan fiction. I don't trust him to do anything worthy of the alien franchise anymore. Fede Alvarez has shown they should trust the franchise to new people now.
@swordguy1243
@swordguy1243 Ай бұрын
Romulus sucked . Ridley had his time and it was great but bro is now 200 years old . Time to hang up the gloves old man
@Paul_1971
@Paul_1971 Ай бұрын
Romulus was massively overrated memberberry soup.
@arthercasillas2755
@arthercasillas2755 Ай бұрын
I want to see a Ridley Scott alien equivalent of the Jack Sniders cut of the justice league.
@RellyKaima
@RellyKaima Ай бұрын
I really loved your Predators Vs Aliens pitch mind blowin plot
@biffmercury
@biffmercury Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott, according to ALIEN screenwriter, Dan O’Bannon, was, “One of the ‘good guys’” when it came to making ALIEN. O’Bannon said that Scott preferred O’Bannon’s screenplay, and that Scott helped push for Fox to hire H.R. Giger, when before Scott was hired, only O’Bannon was pushing for the hiring of Giger. I don’t pretend to understand some of Scott’s choices on the PROMETHEUS films though.
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
Dan O'Bannon pushed for Scott to direct O'Bannon's Alien film. So, Scott supported O'Bannon when the Producers wanted a secondary villain. Ultimately, the Producers were correct.
@Lt.Loomis
@Lt.Loomis Ай бұрын
There has to have been a queen to have laid all the eggs on LV426 as well as the hugger that killed the space jockey, so to do it in a way like your idea would be thrilling! Great knowledge and ideas to continue the lore of David and the human Engineers experimenting with the xeno genetics. Scott has to go along a similar line with the plot to meet up to Alien, yours is prob inifinitely better though because of future interference! Lol damn studios. The lore of the botched Paradise Lost turning into Convenant is a fascinating thing to try and fix and glue to the original timeline. What a fun franchise.
@yourcreaturesofthenight4502
@yourcreaturesofthenight4502 Ай бұрын
Get Zaffy in production now!!!! I would love to see everything connected in this. I believe this would be Ridley's last Alien Film. We all know the Mural is Giger's final Legacy work. This Film could potentially be Ridley's by connecting everything we all want to see! Have David, Daniels, Engineers, Decons, Ultramorphs, Fulfremmen and a Queen plus The Woman in the Dark. Even have a few cameos of Shaw, Walter and Ripley! Excellent video Zaffy! 🖤🧡🖤🧡🖤🧡🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
@foreshame7370
@foreshame7370 Ай бұрын
As much as I dislike the storylines of both Prometheus and Covenant I would like a conclusion to David's story. Michael Vast Bender's Peter O'Toole impression is delightful.
@Jeffrey_zeta
@Jeffrey_zeta Ай бұрын
Forgot to sub the first time, glad I remembered this time! Really digging your videos! Keep it up ❤
@ryanswayze8822
@ryanswayze8822 15 күн бұрын
Hey Zaffy, I'm a new subscriber, and have been diving into all of ur Alien content, and I'm absolutely loving it! Love ur style and work brother!
@Cinemavigilante
@Cinemavigilante 15 күн бұрын
thanks man glad your enjoying it
@Fridaey13txhOktober
@Fridaey13txhOktober Ай бұрын
"You were the chosen one, Scott! It was said that you would destroy the Cringe, not join it! Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in lameness!" "I HAAAERT YOU!"
@jamesmitchell4927
@jamesmitchell4927 Ай бұрын
You want David to now be the one who created the queen?..... then make said queen get her to lay tons of eggs, then somehow get the engineers to collect up all the eggs and put them in a ship to then be shot down/crash somehow on LV426..... I mean that planet had a queen so therefore it must come from David's strain of the alien by your stories logic.... and you think this story will redeem him?..... I hope your a better merc than you are a story developer Deathstroke!
@Melkur1981
@Melkur1981 Ай бұрын
Noah Hawley is dumping that idea for his tv show, anyway. He doesn't like the idea that the Xenomorph was a bioweapon made 30 minutes ago, more a product of millions of years of evolution.
@howardmartin3784
@howardmartin3784 Ай бұрын
Get this man in the writers room ASAP
@trevorstevenson4038
@trevorstevenson4038 Ай бұрын
Haha I absolutely agree!
@raphie8488
@raphie8488 Ай бұрын
The religous stuff was already in Alien, just way more subtle. Edit: Btw. the "real" engineers you are refering to, are genemodified with Alien DNA.
@ДиянРайков-ф6м
@ДиянРайков-ф6м Ай бұрын
the ones at the beginning of the movie are engineers, the mfs on planet 4 are a separate specie, and the ones on the shit were the space jockey's
@CassusHess
@CassusHess Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid zaffy! Excellent ideas as always! I can’t help but recommend Kroft talks movies. He’s gone into the script for Prometheus and revealed quite a bit. For example, there seems to be this idea that the juggernaut from Alien will return? According to the scripts and the novel Aliens river of Pain, that thing has been sitting there for 2000 years pre Prometheus events. The hologram engineers even talk about it when David 8 is sitting in the big chair. They were taking off when one was infected and initiated quarantine protocols.
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 Ай бұрын
I disagree on two points. The Space Jockey from 1979 Alien movie is NOT the same as an Engineer from Prometheus, he's like TWICE (or more) the size as an Engineeer, he is a GIANT. The other point is that Ridley never liked the idea of an Alien Queen (from Cameron's Aliens) which is why Fede showed an alternative way for xenomorphs to create new life, just like Ridley had in a deleted scene from the original movie. NO QUEEN(S) in the next Ridley film.
@winningjubbly9712
@winningjubbly9712 Ай бұрын
I have it on good authority that they're trying to cast Gene Hackman as the boss Engineer, which would be nice.
@neonvoid
@neonvoid 25 күн бұрын
sometimes no explanation is the best explanation. Imagine if only alien + aliens exists. i'd be happy with that. same goes for terminator. for predator, one is enough.
@guyjohnson259
@guyjohnson259 Ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this out there. So happy to have read the other day about a finished trilogy. Whatever he does will be as good as Prometheus and Covenant. At least the good parts of covenant.
@wa-bu3ke
@wa-bu3ke 29 күн бұрын
YOOOOO Ridley could just have Shaw already being the Lady in the Dark, coming back to life. That would be crzzy
@NastyKnox
@NastyKnox Ай бұрын
Prometheus was a masterpiece. Killing of Shaw before Alien covenant was such a fumble. They need to give us that paradise lost story arc. I was always hoping they could make it that the dead Shaw was a clone created by David for experimentation. We all know that David can be deceitful.
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Even the legitimate critics who liked his nihilism and bad philosophies aren't claiming "masterpiece" status for Scott's atrocious "prequels". Totally unhinged, mate!
@endc3043
@endc3043 Ай бұрын
Well said my friend.. Well said..👍👍👍
@BS_Profile
@BS_Profile Ай бұрын
Zaffy, I just need an Ultramorph. Tell me we're getting an Ultramorph.
@chun-bonntang5391
@chun-bonntang5391 Ай бұрын
Your synopsis is probably better than what they try to do at Fox/Disney. I like your ideas.
@leefr76
@leefr76 Ай бұрын
An alternative is that David becomes the hero, using his aliens to stop the engineers ship in reaching and destroying Earth. Huge ship battles between Engineers and Xenomorphs resulting in the crash on LV49.
@captainkirk9691
@captainkirk9691 Ай бұрын
I actually enjoyed Prometheus i thought it was interesting and hoped we would learn more.
@Travixius1
@Travixius1 Ай бұрын
Ridley is cooked and obsessed with his black goo space jockey irrelevant nonsense
@CobraTheRed0
@CobraTheRed0 Ай бұрын
12:14 The show takes place in 2120 as for the prequels they take place before the show. Prometheus is in the late 2090's. Alien covenant takes place in 2104 16 years before the show just so you guys know.
@XavierAncarno
@XavierAncarno Ай бұрын
Just when you thought R. Scott was done with his mumbo jumbo spiritual god garbage and you had a semi decent alien Romulus. He’s decided to pull himself back in with his gooey shit and œdipus android fantasy 😂😂😂😂
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
Too true...Scott's Freudian fetishes and attempts to reconcile his Humanism with his Boomer Mysticism have ruined every movie he's been allowed to script in the past two decades.
@Sci-Fi_Quizshow
@Sci-Fi_Quizshow Ай бұрын
Some one should ask R Scott or any other subsequent hack who mentions 'Engineers' to spend 5 minutes watching the original Alien (1979) and particularly the scenes when the landing crew of the Nostromo enters the Space Jocky cockpit / flight deck. People, these are NOT the same creature as the Engineers. Period! 1. The Space Jocky has a MASSIVE body -easily 3-4 times the size of a human / 2 times of the 'engineer' 2. The dimensions of the body parts (arms, legs, torso, head and face) are all different 3. The creature is also mechanoid like the ship & Xenomorph 4. The creature is elephantine in form - specially head & face 5. The Creature was not wearing an exoskeleton but his body is biomechanical and links with the chair 6. The Anatomy & physiology are obviously not human / humanoid (head has no helmet but clearly has a trunk) 7. There was never any sign of nor any use for the moronic cheap & lazy plot element that is the 'Black Goo'. 8. The Space Jocky and the Juggernaut (Space Derelict) are ancient - fossilized (1000s years before WY timeline) 9. The origins of humanity: Engineers, Black Goo evolution were copy-paste and used as plot fillers. When you don't have skilled Sci-Fi authors then you are forced to use lame writers and idiot script writers to hash out some kind of story to sell your movie. Both the Human Origins and the Black Goo were shameless and lazy rip off ideas from 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The X-Files, respectively. The original Alien had not connection with this quasi mythical / qualsi religious mumbo jumbo, David, and needing to search for our creators..... The original Alien story was a Sci-Fi Masterpiece that was created by Dan O'Banon et al and fleshed out by the genius artist Giger. It would seem that R Scott wanted ro trash the Alien franchise to spite himself, and to spite J Cameron for making the original second classics. The Alien franchise has unfortunately been irreversibly fouled beyond recognition, and for that reason, I consider that the Alien Trilogy ended with Alien 3. Alien 4 (resurrection) was OK and had Sigorney Weaver in it anyway. It would need to be thought of as a VR Simulacra (simulation) done by scientists in the the future or some alternate reality /alternate dimension / or as an AI-induced dream of some sort. And dont get me started on this latest steaming pile of manure : Alien Ridiculous!
@GOLTEB
@GOLTEB Ай бұрын
The story of david is what actually brought me back. Lol
@Kenro200x
@Kenro200x Ай бұрын
I'm not looking for perfection at this point; I just don't want this next one to piss me off.
@shunonigiri2710
@shunonigiri2710 Ай бұрын
Queen Xeno vs Ultramorph fight scene would be mind blown
@Julie-kq7pm
@Julie-kq7pm 29 күн бұрын
I like some of your ideas. I want to see david experimenting on the colonists. And I want Walter to fix himself and go rescue daniels!
@lichslayer0045
@lichslayer0045 Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott always brings Ruin to the Xenomorph Lore and Legacy as a Monster. There are zero hopes for Ridley Scott to make amends in undoing all the damages Scott done to the Xenomorphs.
@robertsmiley2207
@robertsmiley2207 Ай бұрын
Facts 💯 David created a Proto Morph but not a xenomorph 😎👽😉
@kybone25
@kybone25 29 күн бұрын
They Seriosuly need you to write the final prequel movie!! Your ideas are fantastic!! Fingers crossed they don't fuck it up!!
@toliveryoung6720
@toliveryoung6720 Ай бұрын
Fulfremmens are essentially Phyrexia from MTG. The black goo is similar to the glistening oil of Yawgmoth.
@DavidMyrmidon
@DavidMyrmidon Ай бұрын
I agree with you on One Thing. This Franchise IS a Mess. 😅 To think that he Tried to Retcon his Own Thing because of his Contempt with The Sequels and Spinoff (AvP) Universe.. just makes it all The More Funnier. I too am with you on a Majority of your current Claims. I didn't really like The Idea of him making David, the Creator of The Xenomorph Species. But then, he goes on to Leave Hints and Easter eggs as way to Claim that The Xenos Predated David. COME ON, RIDLEY!! Which is it? I honestly like your Ideas, and to add to it.. IF.. by some chance that he Does go about creating The Plot for it around near your Conclusion. Using Daniels as a Xenomorph "Deity". My Only hope is that, they reveal The SOURCE of The Material that The Engineers "Spliced" it from. Say... An Un-Edited/Tweaked EVOLVED Xenomorph Specimen/Species, that ISN'T Animalistic.. but fully Conscience, Aware and Intelligent. Also be a Good Time to **nudge-nudge** -finally Throw an Alien King in there. 😅 I know it feels like a Gimmick Character, but what the hell...? It could be fun, who knows. 😅🤷
@RogueBeatsARG
@RogueBeatsARG Ай бұрын
I agree with the origin of the Xeno, being made by David is a boring concept, but being a ancient species, probably from a world that looks like GIGERs work would be the best
@richardwarner8648
@richardwarner8648 Ай бұрын
I'm all for him finishing up that story. It will be entertaining of course. The whole point of movies.
@JONINXBOX
@JONINXBOX Ай бұрын
It’s been confirmed the Tv series takes place 2 years before Alien and 16 years after Covenant..
@SirDenghis
@SirDenghis Ай бұрын
An easy explanation to the xenomorph origin that fits with most of the in universe details is that the key ingredient to the pathogen was harvested from xenomorphs that the engineers found out in the galaxy somewhere, that's why a type of xenomorph is always the end result whenever the pathogen is used. Nice and simple and mostly fits.
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 24 күн бұрын
I dont like the idea of David creating xenos. It takes this from some kind of cosmic mystery horror to "malfunctioning sinth turns into a full blown psychopath".
@SlasherJyy
@SlasherJyy Ай бұрын
I personally like to believe the lady in the dark is the consciousness of Elizabeth Shaw. In Alien resurrection we learn that the memories of xenomorphs are carried on through the dna 🧬 of them so why couldn’t something similar happen?
@KingGl00m
@KingGl00m Ай бұрын
Is this a for sure thing? Is Ridley Scott greenlighted to give his 3rd installment another go? Or is this just excitement after Romulus and soon the Hulu series, and exploring the hypothetical. "What if Ridley will come back now and put the period at the end of the spoken sentence?" You know, because we want a completed product.
@Elayzee
@Elayzee Ай бұрын
I would want them retcon Shaw's corpse in Alien Covenant being a clone mutation of Shaw, and the real Shaw is still alive in hiding on the planet when the Engineers come back and see what David did to their creations.
@danielpeckham5520
@danielpeckham5520 Ай бұрын
The space jockey in the first Alien movie is clearly thousands of years old. It makes no sense to show its origin set just before Alien like only decades before.
@ulfingvar1
@ulfingvar1 Ай бұрын
I don't give a fuck about what people say, Prometheus and Covenant were amazing, a few clunky scenes aside. And I like your suggestions strongly!!! Let the TV show do its own thing, maybe it will be great, I hope so, but let Ridley do his final Alien film. We need it. I need it.
@lv2465
@lv2465 Ай бұрын
Lol, me too. I appreciate Ridley Scott's work, movie's like Bladerunner and Legend. Critics don't get it at first but give it time and they become masterpieces or movie's with cult followings.
@swordguy1243
@swordguy1243 Ай бұрын
No doubt but bro is like 200 years old now . Sometimes is better to hang up the gloves, than ruin your legacy. In my opinion
@The_Based_Batman
@The_Based_Batman Ай бұрын
Prometheus was great, Covenant was complete dogshit.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 Ай бұрын
“Amazing” 🤦
@MrCarletto007
@MrCarletto007 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@otterwithagun1982
@otterwithagun1982 Ай бұрын
Just wipe Prometheus, wipe Covenant. No David. Go back to one of two original story lines: a) Where the xenomorphs were created by 2 ancient warring alien factions who decided to no longer send their people to die, so they made these biomechanical creations and used them to kill each other. Whoever had the most xenomorphs at the end would win. Unfortunately their creations said "bish, you thought." b) An ancient, super advanced alien race allowed themselves to be so dependant on technology that over the years, they became so dependant on it over millions of years, to the point they no longer even needed to think, they devolved into their base instincts (mate, kill, feed, repeat), that they became the xenomorphs.
@andrewdunn8259
@andrewdunn8259 Ай бұрын
The space jockey has been dead for thousands of years by the time the nostromo gets to it. David and Elizabeth Shaw mimics HR Giger's first wife they both loved and created something disturbing I think if they make a sequel to covenant that they won't use any of the original actors, by the time a script is put forward and casting all that jazz it'll be 10 years since covenant was released.
@ImmortalRimas
@ImmortalRimas Ай бұрын
The Xenomorph should not have a clear origin because it’s one of the aspects of the alien creature that made it so terrifying in the first place with that fear of the unknown that has always frightened us in Horror. I don’t count the Prometheus films as lore and Ridley Scott is a great cinematographer but not a good consistent storyteller as it pains me to say this because my all-time favourite film is Blade Runner. I think the guy in this video really desperately wants to believe in the Prometheus lore so much you can hear it in his voice and it doesn’t matter if Ridley Scott does make his final prometheus film or not at least half of the Alien fandom are not gonna accept it as lore either way. I think the concept of Prometheus could’ve made a great original IP completely detached and nothing to do with the Alien franchise at all if Ridley Scott and his fellow writers really took a stab at it before it’s release back in 2012
@awickedtribe
@awickedtribe Ай бұрын
Ripley (Ridley? Hmm) wakes up screaming. Newt is standing next to her pod eating cereal and Highs sticks head out from the bathroom with a fresh nick on his chin. They roll their eyes as Ripley rolls out of bed, disoriented until she remembers they on a military ship headed to the Xenomorph Homeworld to wipe out the Xenos. Its a harsh inhospitable world, dark and barren, with hives everywhere. They encounter a number of vicious creatures, but nothing like the Xenos. They discover there is a single montrous Queen who only produces other Queens. They battle their way through the hives and in the end, kill the Queen. As they are returning to their ship they learn that the Xenos aren't the apex predator, that there is something even worse.
@Jigsaw0097
@Jigsaw0097 Ай бұрын
I don't fully reject your concept, but I think making Daniels become the Goddess Xeno is way to much like Kerrigan becoming the Queen of Blades for the Zerg in StarCraft. I think the more interesting route would be that David figures out how to create the Queen Xeno to solve the "self-replication" problem that the Engineers have by harvesting Daniels and the colonists aboard the Covenant to create a mad "floating hive" so to speak that the Engineers stumble upon early in the film, and just scrap the Goddess concept. I also like the concept of the Engineers "worshipping" and creating a religion around the Xenos, very Dead Space and I like it and it gives perfect motivation for David to create the "perfect" organism to spite them.
@RogueBeatsARG
@RogueBeatsARG Ай бұрын
id say let Ridley make his movie, he created a world in 79 let him explore it
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott is a talent-free twit. Ridley Scott only _directed_ Alien in 1979. He had absolutely _nothing_ to do with the creation of the Alien story and creature. Dan O'Bannon is the creative whom Ridley Scott has been stealing credit from for the past four decades.
@BARAGONNN
@BARAGONNN Ай бұрын
Zaffy youre great amazing videos
@misapheonix
@misapheonix Ай бұрын
These ideas are not bad but I think, esp if he wants a proper return to his vision, we deserve a TON more emphasis on the Engineers. Probably enough to warrant them appearing in the lore alot more. As it stands, it seems their entire race is killed off, or at least MIA in the future. Cannon holds no weight for me anymore so bringing these aliens to the forefront is not a big deal. So, instead of Daniels being involved, I'd MUCH prefer David to get straight into dealing with (multiple sects of) the engineers directly. Shaw had a way better chance of surviving, but with Daniels already trapped in cryo there is no way she doesnt suffer the same fate.
@PaganPilot
@PaganPilot Ай бұрын
Seriously Zaffy, you need to be on the writing Alein's writing team at this point. If Ridly *HAS* to have to have David create Xenomorph Queen, and Engineers being Space Jockies this is probs the only way to make this borderline palatable.
@rayrvidal4199
@rayrvidal4199 Ай бұрын
I think you’re forgetting about the aliens versus predator one where the queen gets thrown with some heavy weights into the icy sea and as we have seen in alien Romulus, they can survive everything .
@e.flames5476
@e.flames5476 Ай бұрын
I need Ridley to finish up that Promethous project, he left to many unanswered questions with that & Covenant
@ColinStevens
@ColinStevens Ай бұрын
Its already been established that the engineers were using the black goo to recreate the perfect organism that they had already met and lived amongst them in their past, as a god i believe.
@tpac3653
@tpac3653 Ай бұрын
Or maybe David will succeed after death at the end with the face hugger attaching itself to the space jockey and creating a queen which is how we get the eggs at the beginning of the first alien. David never gets to see his work complete but it still comes to pass, there is something poetic in that I think.
@RH1812
@RH1812 Ай бұрын
It’s easy. Treat Scott’s David films as just that. Not Alien, simply films about creation. What it is to ‘alive’ with the ability to procreate. Plus, there were xenos pictured in the jar room mural so…
@BlackAdder1970
@BlackAdder1970 Ай бұрын
Im so sick of the studios messing up everything
@deadmeat8754
@deadmeat8754 Ай бұрын
Ridley Scott is part of the "studio". He's been brought in as the official Producer for the Alien IP. Asides from Romulus, he's managed to reduced fan enthusiasm and profitability since he put on the "studio" suit.
@MuadDiiib
@MuadDiiib Ай бұрын
alien 3 is actually good tho.
@Sammael757
@Sammael757 Ай бұрын
3:53 David making the Xenos will already be debunked/retcon'd by Alien: Earth having xenos a few years before the Prometheus has even left for LV-223 (personally, I never accepted that he created them, just .ade them from the Engineer's old family recipe with a few 'adjust to tadte' changes 😂). In fact, I think they'll go with the Alien predation the Engineers as well, and that they distilled the pathogen from those xenos in the first ace. This was heavily hinted at in Prometheus and again in Romulus. EDIT: LOL, if I had waited, I'd have heard you addressed the TV show.
@TheMrEvs
@TheMrEvs Ай бұрын
this guy knows whats up
@michaelelam9779
@michaelelam9779 Ай бұрын
The problem is that they just need to decide what direction they’re gonna go and stick to it. If they’re gonna go the whole black goo, and engineer origin story direction then just commit to it and finally explain all of that to us instead of sprinkling little pieces of it in the last few movies, but then never expand on it anymore, which just makes the whole origin story stuff confusing as hell. I think it would be cool to see an Alien movie where it’s not just a bunch of people running from the Alien on a spaceship 🚀 and a female ends up being the lone survivor hero
@RebecaLawrence-w6e
@RebecaLawrence-w6e Ай бұрын
Zaffy, This is a good video. Talking about the next Alien movie. By Ridley Scott. For the David story. David is the very thing Scott whats to be. The xenomorph is hellhounds to Scott. Shaw was killed off because. The actress wanted to leave Alien covenant. Then came back. Killing Shaw was pay back. I'm happy for everyone that likes pernicious story line. I don't like it. I feel like the xenomorph is much more. Then someone's lab experiment. James Cameron. Gave us the queen. A female that doesn't need a male. Scott doesn't like women. Let's see what happens with the David story. I thought at first. We need another movie. What David is going to spend forever spitting up alien eggs.
@hammerofdavey
@hammerofdavey Ай бұрын
Bring back Elizabeth Shaw.
@samg8760
@samg8760 Ай бұрын
Since when did Ridley say he’s going to make this? I didn’t think that Disney was going to let him finish his prequel story.
@badnivlek
@badnivlek Ай бұрын
The problem with Ridley is he tried to explain what does not need to be explained, sometimes things , (just are)
@12345678971926
@12345678971926 Ай бұрын
Nice fantasy. I got a simple one. The first part is good. Part two. Daniel’s gets captured on the engineers with David and then they were kept in two separate chambers and then one instant. They are speaking a old form of ancient English. They are planning to go to earth and finish the job. Somehow she breaks free. She finds David. She tells David convinces David to come to his census example. Like what would Charles do? He wouldn’t like his son letting his home die. David change his heart goes into the one of the engineers lab, and this turns into a cat and mouse in the end. David produce his perfect organism, a royal face hugger, David and Daniel‘s die in the end. The engineer that killed him is flying to ship the Royal egg hatches attaches to the engineer and then it cuts off and then goes up. The engineer is giving birth to the queen chest, Brester, then cuts off again, then goes back on again. It shows a ship crashing to LV planet then goes to another clip. The queen is laying her eggs and then cuts forward again to alien one trucker ship, computer screen, pops up signal, and later on make another movie based on the book, alien the river of pain, the prequel of Hadley’s. Hope keep it simple.
@Endless_search_
@Endless_search_ Ай бұрын
Ive thought it was pretty evident from the beginning that David didnt create the xenomorph given the murals in prometheus
@ulfingvar1
@ulfingvar1 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
Prometheus shows the deacon burst out of the engineer. That’s what you saw in the mural.
@Endless_search_
@Endless_search_ Ай бұрын
@@slang1517 I know that, but I’m saying the Deacon is definitely definitely an established species of Xenomorph
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
@@Endless_search_ everyone knows David didn’t make the deacon. David made the type of xenomorph we see in the first movie onward
@T-Hazza
@T-Hazza Ай бұрын
honestly ALIEN is better left in Fede's hands, despite the fact its owned by disney! I think Ridley should not be a producer for the romulus sequel so we can see a queen and HOPEFULLY a Praetorian!
@blackwolfhaley
@blackwolfhaley Ай бұрын
Engineers make aliens more interesting so I hope they dive more into engineer lore
@CassusHess
@CassusHess Ай бұрын
If anyone owns Prometheus they’ll know that Weyland knew of the signal on LV 426 and was his next destination if LV 223, which is next door, wasn’t fruitful. If not then now you know.
@kenyontucker6469
@kenyontucker6469 Ай бұрын
I want to see David's master plan and lay down the groundwork.
@denizsi
@denizsi Ай бұрын
The entire concept of the queen alien needs to be retired already. It was good in Aliens. It also worked for Alien 3. That was enough. The series need to go "back" to ovomorphing, the ultimate form of body-horror, turning living human (or other beings) slowly into eggs. I am so glad we didn't see a queen in Romulus. Also how David seems to have created the eggs in Covenant. The xenomorphs shouldn't be treated like a hive of insects. They are intelligent biomechanical killing machines.
@BARAGONNN
@BARAGONNN Ай бұрын
So true I love aliens but even in that movie the hive stuff got on my nerves a little it just did not hit the same as the first
@duanegarrett4900
@duanegarrett4900 Ай бұрын
Im ok with the fluidity of their reproductive abilities. They can asexually reproduce and create nests or, once a queen is produced, can create hives. Doesn't take away from lore, imo
@slang1517
@slang1517 Ай бұрын
Too inefficient. That would mean you need two hosts to produce a single alien. I think the hive resin itself should break down cocooned bodies, and produce eggs like a plant
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 Ай бұрын
so they are humans....
@royalecrafts6252
@royalecrafts6252 Ай бұрын
The alien is already inefficient, you need a host to reproduce and eggs​@@slang1517
@DBCooper01
@DBCooper01 Ай бұрын
If they use some of these ideas then Ridley will have my respect again
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