Ring Size the Right Way

[@gginpar]

I am glad Peter is back making videos for all us Schmucks! It was great meeting you in BKK!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@gginpar thank you 🙏 glad to be of help.

[@androidangel787]

Hey, you back! 😂Awesome!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I am indeed~ more coming soon ^_^

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would love to see some of your designs!

[@malcolmthompson9848]

What you call Lego jewelry, I call Tinker Toy jewelry. A reflection of the difference in our ages and the toys of our youth. Another consideration in sizing is the width of the shank. Wider rings need 1/4 to 1/2 size up to feel comfortable when hands are clenched. Good to have you back.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@malcolmthompson9848 an excellent parallel Malcolm, thank you. I also agree on the wider band sizing concern. I guess i have been hesitant to talk about specific sizes compared with widths because I keep seeing new fingers that change my concepts. Truly it’s ideal to size a ring in person, and next best is to have a good conversation with jewelers that care to listen. Cheers~

[@androsida8704]

Discovered your channel a week ago falling into the rabbit hole of gems, also bought a mandrel and here you go now you are back and making a video exactly on that topic. The coincidence :)

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I'm glad that the timeline overlaps with your current stage well. I hope that my work is of service to you.

[@FunnyCatVidzz]

One of the best and most informative channels for gemstones and jewelry! I’ve learned so much from these videos and gained a lot of inspiration. Thanks, and it’s great to see you back with a new video 🙏.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

My pleasure to serve, and i'm glad that you've enjoyed my work. Best of luck to you~

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would can’t wait to see some of your designs!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks very much. Yes indeed, that was the idea: the jeweler that everyone imagines “a jeweler” to be, but practically hardly ever is. Much more work to be done, but were on the way ^_^

[@chiara-c4s]

Hi Peter! Stumbled across your channel as I'm interested in vintage and antique jewelry, and you've totally reignited my interest in gemstones that I had when I was much younger! I do have a question though-- I see you ID gemstones that are loose. Is it the same process to ID a stone that is already set in a ring? Doesn't the band of the ring interfere with light passing through various testing instruments, and make it difficult to see what's going on? Keep up the great work, truly love you videos :)

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

It will depend on the setting type, but its definitely possible. For many faceted coloured stones, an RI measurement, and several other diagnostic instruments can be used still in the setting.

[@consideringorthodoxy5495]

Awesome. I was at new approach last year for stone setting. I’ve been a bench jeweler for 4 years now. Love your videos.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you. New Approach is a unique place indeed. Cheers to you

[@williamharberts5514]

I'm delighted that you are back. That was a long dry spell.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you ~ quite an involved dry spell aswell.

[@ColeenCreeden]

I was so happy to watch this video. This is great reference information for clients. How cool you went to New Approach ❤. I look forward to hearing about your continuing journey. Plus seeing your creativity in action. Best wishes

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you Coleen~! Yes, further up and farther in, as they say.

[@Garrettgilroy6817]

Good to have you back

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@Garrettgilroy6817 thank you, Daniel 🙏

[@Dawgzihk]

Great to hear you're back to making videos!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks~ keep your eyes out in the days and weeks ahead. More shortly.

[@gregleak5134]

I am so happy to hear from you Peter. I was wondering what happened to you so now I know

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Cheers Greg~ under a rock learning something new as usual XD im back and ready for the next chapter~

[@gregleak5134]

It never hurts to learn new tricks

[@abdullahihussein3034]

Hi peter good to hear you again

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@abdullahihussein3034 thanks very much 🙏

[@TaprootMetalworks]

Good info here.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you ~ it's my desire to serve.

[@Gowaduv]

I have a set of wide ring sizers, which I bought after the narrow ring sizers gave me a size that only fits comfortably when my finger is extended. The wide set tells me I should have gone up half a size for this custom 6mm wide ring to be comfortable all day.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

That’s an excellent set to have. The big caveat for us all to keep in mind is “how wide IS the ring were making?” Some folk think 6mm is large and others like to push 16mm or more in width. I should make a follow up video on this point. Thank you~

[@TaprootMetalworks]

Man! I was looking at this school yesterday! Its not far from me. Would love to know more about the experience.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Phenomenal experience. I'll be talking about it more in the next few videos. I can't sing their praises loud enough.

[@TaprootMetalworks]

@@GemologyforSchmucks Fantastic.

[@idonthaveaname42]

can you do one on how to tell if an emerald has had resin treatment or regular oil?

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Currently this requires advanced equipment in the possession of larger labs and a very select few stone dealers. Functionally its enough for a dealer to know that the stone has been clarity enhanced (oil or resin) and to what rough degree (minor, moderate, significant), after this its more of a market to market concern regarding oil or un-activated resin. Hopefully at some point i’ll have an emerald contact that wants to communicate this more clearly for the public and i’ll be able to organize a video.

[@idonthaveaname42]

@@GemologyforSchmucks for activated resin, can you see that visually with a loupe? i just picked up some zambian emeralds 6x4, 2/3 rds of a carat for $35 ea (from jaipur) they're included, good color, transparent. i see surface reaching fractures but they seem very tight together at the surface. does resin glow under uv? i dont see any blue flashes. i just want to be transparent with my customers.

[@consideringorthodoxy5495]

I don’t know if this works for all dividers (compasses) but one complete rotation of the divider knob is equal to one size. So I’m able to size rings up by holding the knob and turning the dividers around. One quarter is on quarter size. Two rotations is two sizes.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

That is an excellent thought that I don't believe I've heard before. I imagine it might depend on the ratio of the screw that modulates the divider/compass' distance, but its definitely something for us all to experiment with. What a fantastic hack that would be. We do something similar in gem cutting with the "cheater" gear.

[@metaspacecrownedbytime4579]

Also, the little finger ring needs to be a little tight as the little finger dose not have a larger knuckle to hold the ring on. People more often lose the ring on their little finger.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

That's an excellent point. It intuitively made sense to me to do it that way, but I wasn't sure about other's experiences.

[@TaprootMetalworks]

May I share this video with clients?

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Please do - the whole purpose of this channel is to elevate the conversation around gems and jewelry. If I can make it easier for others to do business, and clients more comfortable to buy, then I think we all win.

[@consideringorthodoxy5495]

What you call “Lego jewelry” I call “assembly”. And hand making from scratch I call “fabrication”.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Considering orthodoxy, it sounds that those terms would be correct. My largest concern is that those who have never been able to hear these arguments laid out, might hear them clearly. I try to build that meeting space brick by brick, even if it is slow.

[@consideringorthodoxy5495]

@@GemologyforSchmucks no problem. I'm fairly certain I came up with those terms myself. I hope I didn't imply that thats the standard that you should follow. Your fun words are one of the many reasons I watch you.

[@tombcaver3030]

Yay

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@tombcaver3030 huzzah~ 🥳

[@marianhassan2394]

Hello

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Hello~

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would love to see some of your designs!

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would love to see some of your designs!

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would love to see some of your designs!

[@AmWoz]

Welcome back! Congratulations on adding yet another skill to your impressive collection. It must be very satisfying to be able to shepherd a piece from rough all the way through to the finished setting. I would love to see some of your designs!