Savage MKII BTV - CCI SV at 50 yards ammo test

Savage MKII BTV - CCI SV at 50 yards ammo test
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[@ccwilder3]

Being a Florida boy that weather that you are shooting in is just plain scary. Appreciate you toughing it out for us.

[@BROTUNED]

To be honest I don’t know how you guys in the south can handle that heat in the summer I can do cold but the heat kills me.

[@richarddesimone4451]

Nice to see you are using targets that do not rip.

[@johnkirkpatrick1536]

I just received a Savage BTV just like yours. I thought about getting a Mark II for over a year. I'm glad I did. MOAs at 50 are not coming like I hoped. I have tried several lower cost ammo, so I am not disappointed. The trigger was surprisingly good. I put an Arken LH4 6-24 on it. It is a fun gun, and I am looking forward to finding what it wants to shoot. Looking forward to seeing more videos on your Savage. Thanks for all your videos.

[@withoutprejudice8301]

Check all your optic mount points (including rail), then ensure your action screw torque is within manufacturer recommendation values. Also there's a technique out there called "torque tuning". It has more influence with rimfires than centerfires.

[@johnkirkpatrick1536]

@withoutprejudice8301 I have done it all. I think it needs more rounds down the tube. I think a MDT field stock may be in its future. The Boyd stock will be nice on my 93r17 savage

[@JonFox-t5x]

I just got the mkii fvsr for Christmas. I coated the bolt with Flitz metal polish and worked it for several minutes. Cleaned it up and lubed it. Very smooth now. I cut 2 1/2 coils off my trigger spring. Be sure to bend the open coil end down to prevent it from digging into the upper receiver when you adjust it. I got my pull weight down to 12 ounces but dialed it back up to 16 ounces. It’s a very good trigger. With proper bedding and torque you can make that thing shoot phenomenal.

[@frankbrowning328]

I love Flitz for metal polishing. It's even nontoxic. Great stuff !

[@BROTUNED]

I’m going to try this out definitely thanks so much jonfox

[@JonFox-t5x]

@@BROTUNED You’re very welcome Ryan. Have fun on vacation. Be looking forward to more Brotune!!

[@BROTUNED]

Jonfox definitely more coming

[@JonFox-t5x]

@ I don’t know if you have heard the rumor that Canada is about to join the United States. It appears to be a very serious conjecture.

[@MnShootingSports]

Glad to see you added a MKII to the channel Ryan, that grindy bolt throw will smooth out with a little time, bunch of folks already gave tips on ways to speed that up below. I've had my "budget mkII" for just over a year and it holds its own with rifles costing 4 times as much. It was the rifle that inspired the CCI Standard Velocity Challenge.

[@BROTUNED]

I have a bit of work to do to it but I definitely want to do the cci challenge with it.

[@gmanchurch]

@@BROTUNEDwhat is the CCI Standard Velocity Challenge? I’m just getting into competition shooting. I’v been shooting for sixty years but never against anyone else. Any information and tips would be greatly appreciated!

[@dethmgnt4257]

Keep working on that rifle! I love the MK II. After bedding the action, my BTV shoots .75 MOA with CCI Blazer 😂 even in the Alberta cold. Bedding got rid of the cold bore flyer as well!

[@gaetanvallee]

Very good result, appreciated your test

[@greghollis9006]

Use a dremel and some polishing compound on the surfaces of your bolt and it will make that action a lot smoother.

[@stevenxindaris1477]

Have had many Savage rifles over the years. Many of the center fires were extremely accurate. The only rimfire they marketed that was really accurate was when they marketed Anshutz.

[@BROTUNED]

Savage made anschutz?

[@Mr.Spectaculous]

​@@BROTUNED No they imported them. They put Savage on them. They shared the same trash can material magazines.

[@Jdelta22nc]

Great video!👍🏽 Not too bad considering the ammo and the wind. As for the bolt, it will get smother as you use it, I used JB Weld soft polishing compound to help it get smoother faster. I have used it on all my bolts that have rough finish or tooling machine marks. Also I noticed that the rounds with over 1000FPS opened up the groups size. Thanks for the video.

[@longjohn439]

I have been tossing the idea around to buy one of these. I would like to see you shoot some SK ammo with it and perhaps some Midas+. The groups in this video don't discourage me,,,, CCI SV don't shoot well in either of my current guns. CCI Blazer does well in my custom Enfield so perhaps it would be worth a try. Also, I have been surprised how well S&B Canadian Match shoots. I enjoy your videos.

[@mikewilliams719]

CSSPEC magazine’s are the best aftermarket magazines available for the MarK II. Available in 10,15, and 20 round capacity.

[@JonFox-t5x]

@@mikewilliams719 I ordered two of their 10 round magazines. They are made very well. I did have to disassemble them and smooth the edges of the follower though. They were hard to load and one wouldn’t hold but 9 rounds. The coating they put on them is too porous and I applied silicone spray to them several times and let it dry. They work well now. I recommend them but they may need some fine tuning to get them to work properly. After they break in they are fine.

[@mikewilliams719]

I did the same with my magazines. Disassembled, cleaned out the factory oil, sprayed interior of magazine housing with silicone spray, reassembled and they ran perfectly. I didn’t have to smooth anything out

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks jon-fox for the tuning tips

[@JonFox-t5x]

@@mikewilliams719 mine had some nasty burrs from the stamping process.

[@JonFox-t5x]

@@BROTUNED You’re very welcome.

[@mikewilliams719]

When you feed a round into the chamber remove the magazine and check the top round in magazine for deformation/shaving. Savages are notoriously sharp on the bottom leading edge of the bolt. Use a small diamond file and radius the leading edge until it’s not causing damage to your rounds.

[@BROTUNED]

Another great tip thanks I’ll definitely check this out

[@lmbear]

A little glass bedding, and that horrid POI shift will be minimized. A good Savage MK1 or MKII will bughole most ammos, including the ones you were testing. Follow the advice left by others here, about clipping the trigger spring, polishing up the bolt, and better glass, and you'll be golden...

[@perrym6937]

i like your videos, i have never had a mk2 but i have several b22 and love them. i few mods and a little ammo testing and will shoot with any rifle, and just cany justify buying anything else

[@BROTUNED]

I wanna get one for the channel also I have heard nothing but good things about

[@frankbrowning328]

We cant really expect the same performance out of this rifle as your Bergara, Tikka or CZ but its also less expensive and maybe with the right loads accurate enough for many

[@mxwizzard]

Ryan maybe test a few mags in the cold then a few warm mags from the house and see if it affects group size I would be interested in watching a video of that hope you have a fantastic day

[@BROTUNED]

Great idea

[@MarvinTurner-oc4ml]

Given the weather conditions and using budget gear I'd say that was good shooting. It's a good 25 degrees warmer here and I'm not willing to go shoot in these temps. If I did I'd be well pleased to shoot

[@virgilpalmer2427]

In that freezing weather, I'm surprised how well your groups are... Usually when it's that cold, the ammo will lose velocity and create larger groups.. Good video..

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks it’s that time of the year and I’m not going to let the cold weather get in the way

[@Frank-q6g3y]

Bro the SVT is my comp. gun. Wa blessed to pick it up at my local pawn shop for 200$ . Put some good glass on it and good ammo and I think u will pleasantly surprised. My best groups were 5 shot at 100 .478 and 3 shot for .462 with weight sorted wolf match extra. And yes the bolt does smooth out with use. B blessed bro

[@JonFox-t5x]

I assure you that the action will be very smooth after it breaks in. I actually took any burrs off mine with diamond files. The Flitz polish is great. I use it to improve my triggers and actions in all my guns. WD40 specialist is great too. It’s a silicone spray that dries and leaves a slick protective layer on all treated surfaces. Works great and especially for making magazines feed smooth and reliably. Just wipe off the excess.

[@CountryRimfire]

Howdy Ryan 👋 Not to bad with CCi 😊

[@keithbyrnes34]

I have a mark2 TR and a BOYD tactical stock. Shot just like yours, 1 st thing I did was get the MDT ORYX stock and do torque tuning on stock, 40inch pounds worked the best using CCI standard. Groups got better but I wasn’t satisfied. Tried all kinds of low to mid priced brands ammo.so I bought an inexpensive tunner off of eBay for $70.00 and with CCI Standard tunned it to consistently shoot .2 to .3 groups occasionally shooting 5 rounds in one. So gun was $450.00 arken 4SJ Gen ll 12-24x50 $323.00 MDP Oryx chassis $329.00 $ 70.00 for budget entry level precision rifle. Now I’m upgrading, just ordered a tika t1x and moving up to mid level precision rifle.

[@BROTUNED]

That’s awesome! I’m gonna play around with it see what I can get out of it. Not sure how much I’m going to throw at it right now but you never know.

[@keithbyrnes34]

@@BROTUNED keep doing what you’re doing, love your videos, I couldn’t shoot in the cold like you do, I’m in central Florida born and raised.

[@krm944]

I’m very glad you added the budget rifle. Please detail all of your accuracy upgrades, and use this to shoot the “budget gun” challenge targets. I like rooting for the underdogs or the cheaper guns and reasonably priced ammunition. Match ammo that is more expensive than center fire ammo doesn’t impress me. I think people want to see ammo they can get off the shelves at Bass Pro/Cabelas/Scheels.

[@BROTUNED]

I definitely will do that. I actually just bedded it last night.

[@krm944]

@ I was bidding on one of those this weekend, got sidetracked and missed the auction close- it sold CHEAP! I’m kicking myself because they seem like amazing shooters and do quite well with the budget-ish ammo.

[@QualityMaximus]

Thanks for braving the cold to shoot the Savage MKII BTV. For the cost and performance, I wonder if spending a few dollars more, the cheapest CZ457 would have been a equal or better performer with CCI SV ammo. Will you keep this rifle as is and not do any aftermarket improvements (eventually and over time)? As you said, the action and bolt are pretty rough (can see that on the video!) and wonder if the bolt could be polished and smoothed out. I know that on the CZ, the laser etched serial number is pretty "abrasive" and can be stoned down smooth and the contact surfaces can be polished (with dremel makes short work) to make that slick. The specs on the Savage says the trigger weight is from 2.5 lbs (min) to 6 lbs (max) so I wonder if it can be "adjusted" to the lightest weight to help with accuracy. It's funny how good glass (scope) can be priced easily 2x to 5x over the cost of a rifle (at base cost or even with all aftermarket upgrades) but with 22LR, it has higher demand for glass and reticle performance than say centerfire due to the tiny slow bullet it slings to be able to spot your shots and for chasing the precision we want to strangle out of our 22LR equipment! I have to say sir, you spoiled us with the December 31 videos in 31 days!!! That was a great series and hope you consider doing that again maybe in the spring or summer (better weather helps!) for say 2x a year? Even if you do short videos on gear review, talk about what you have done to a given rifle or review of performance over distances with a given rifle and ammo type and what you thought was the best combination for your setup would be informative.

[@stevenxindaris1477]

Savage imported Anschutz for awhile . It was the only time their rimfire line was top notch.

[@BROTUNED]

That’s interesting thanks for sharing this information

[@ogPolen]

Get one of those propane patio heaters. Make it easier to load those lil mags

[@Mr.Spectaculous]

I have that one also but in stainless and a lefty. I also have an SR. I think of them as mil surpy not rough. But they do smooth out quite nicely if you shoot them. That version needs lower rings and a lower power optic. A one inch tube. Don't clean it for a brick or more. It might become the most accurate rifle you own.

[@DexterCasto]

Keep making those good videos, hope you used plenty of release agent,👍

[@BROTUNED]

I am running the ammo how it comes I haven’t tried anything like wD40 or anything yet

[@andriessluiter4269]

Keep it lubed, wel not to much in freezing weather, it will smoothen after a few bricks. The CZ’s I shot where stif and clunky. Anshutz and Feinwerkbau where slick but they are double the price. And yes good, better ammo show nicer groups. Ha wish I could shoot from my porch.

[@mxwizzard]

I wonder if the cold is affecting group size as the ammo gets colder

[@BROTUNED]

I think it does

[@nelsonm5032]

Not sure whats up with the Mark II's... mine shoots CCI SV the best. beating all eley and SK? very odd. if it wasnt such a chore to swap barrels i would just cuz. great vid, cheers

[@streettuff2623]

Have you shot the Tikka t1x enough to say how it ranks against your cz and bergara?

[@FukuYTmark6]

I like the rifle.

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks

[@GeorgeLeshko]

what kind of bipod and adapter plate do you have on your gun.. I have a 17 HMR like that gun and i want to put a Bipod on it .. Thank for a great video

[@dethmgnt4257]

Looks like a standard Harris style that mounts directly to the sling stud.

[@BROTUNED]

I made a video in December about them search back on my channel it’s and arca bipod diy video

[@chrislang5659]

I'm sure the more you shoot it the better it will get. Try a CV Life scope. Everybody seems to be liking them!🤔

[@RusticRimfire22]

The mark ii seem to like tac22 , sk standard. If looking for a good low cost scope the westhunter HD gen2 6x24x50 ebay. Has basically same reticle as arken with center dot. Its a fantastic deal for around 135. I run few of them on 17hmr an 44mag rifles. Really been impressed so far.

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll have to look into them

[@remr15]

Try cci mini mags , excellent in my cz457 varmint, 1 inch groups at 100 yards

[@BROTUNED]

That’s one ammo I really haven’t tried ammo testing

[@DexterCasto]

Nice stock, glass bed it should get rid of point of impact shift, try some sk match or lapua ten x, 👍

[@DexterCasto]

I meant to say center x❤

[@BROTUNED]

I actually just bedded it last night. I won’t be able to shoot it now for a week or two then usually another week or two until the video goes live. I’ll definitely try some better ammo also but I’m trying to keep this a budget friendly build.

[@johnlantz7278]

Clean an repeat ,rimfire ammo lot testing will produce a constant result , weight plus rim thickness .an different primers are used with each can vary .lot testing not branding is a good idea 👍 my savage loves some Cci standard but the lots are different I’ve tested from 100 box to a 50 same ammo but the 100 count is all over the paper,some large box stores can have large inventory of a lot number get that on Black Friday like me an buy 5000. Rounds at 4:73 for 50 pack.

[@gunvlog]

I have a Savage MK II BTVS I shoot up to 300m. I shoot the SK Longrange 98% of the time, at 50m and up to 300m. The only thing I would like to improve is the trigger, but I havnˋt really found a solution for that

[@JonFox-t5x]

Cut two and a half coils off your trigger spring. Be sure to bend the open coil end inward towards the center of the coil to prevent it from digging into the receiver when you adjust your spring. I did this to my FV-SR and my pull weight is 12 ounces. I actually adjusted back up to 16 ounces because it was a little too light for my numb fingers.

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely look into that

[@JonFox-t5x]

@@BROTUNED it makes it a very good trigger for a budget rifle. No take up or creep at all. If you wiggle the trigger when it’s that light it will drop off the seat but won’t release the firing pin. Just cycle the bolt up and down to reset it. Savage put that function in there as a safety feature. You can also remove the trigger safety and spring. You will still have the thumb safety but if you aren’t using it for hunting it really doesn’t matter that you remove it. Most rifles don’t have it anyway. It’s actually for handguns.

[@gunvlog]

@@JonFox-t5x Thank`s for the tipp. I am acrually a bit surprised, that there are no aftermarket trigger springs. I asked Savage if the springs from the Savage B22 Precision would fit, since that trigger is way lighter then on the Accu Trigger on the MKII. But said they wouldn`t fit. Other options would be to drill the hole where the trigger spring sits in a bit deeper, but I am not real friend of altering triggers like that. Cutting off coils is a way, but it seems to be hard to get replacement springs here in Germany

[@JonFox-t5x]

@ clip a little at a time and test it. Clipping two and a half coils still leaves plenty of adjustment to increase the weight if you aren’t happy with it. There will still be enough adjustment to keep it safe. Clip it with small sharp cutters and be sure to bend it down inside the coil at the end where you clip it off. If you don’t it will bind by digging into the reciever when you try to adjust it. I do believe the spring for the B series will work. They just tell people that for legal reasons. However, if you follow the guidelines I’m listing here you won’t have any problems. Be careful not to distort your spring when modifying it. If you do just place a punch inside it that fits tightly and reform it with some small pliers.

[@wildnorthadventures]

You should lead Lapp the barrel

[@paullavallee1631]

I bought a CZ 457 Varmint in 22 wmr a couple days ago, to convert it to 22lr would you recommend the MTR or the LRP Miniset ?

[@dethmgnt4257]

The MTR chamber is slightly shorter and tighter, I believe. So you may have issues with cheaper, high-velocity ammo if you decided to use it.

[@ron8566]

Which bi-pod are you using ?

[@BROTUNED]

Just some inexpensive amazon carbon fiber swivel model. I made a video on the set up I use and how to build it. It was released in December

[@johnhermsen6456]

Avg speed is going down and up a lot of speed diverence

[@vodi749]

I would say the new "toy" is working good. After zeroing the results are clear. Bullets around 1000fps are hitting the "bullseye", all faster went left all slower right. Just sort your bullets by speed and you have it. (just kidding) Shooting in that conditions shows the real enthusiast! 😇 😎

[@mikeluckhardt5400]

Like to see this at 100 or more

[@BROTUNED]

Will do!

[@timbcf]

At first look thats a pertential shooter as per usual from Savage. With that much ES virtical is tight, ignore half the horizontal if that was the conditions. Scrubb that barrel to decontaminate the cci virus and maybe try some biathlon in that weather. She'll be a shooter Bro!

[@georgecolee7663]

The barrel and bolt will take a while to break in. A bit of stoning on the internals now that you’ll see the rough spots will help. My CZ’s always broke in pretty fast compared to those Savage rifles. Checkout Don here he lapped the barrel on his, with very good results. Thanks for the beer budget testing try your cheapest Eley and SK next. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSqc5R3j72smdk Cheers 🍻

[@misterlewgee8874]

They look like my bike gloves. Pleasant viewing...well put together. I think I need to regulate my expectations of 22s... On one hand...they can be very accurate...right rifle an ammo combo...but...on the other ...they seem inheritably unreliable..batching ammo..fliers...etc.....etc.. Or..is that just rifles in general...hmm

[@ogPolen]

I bought a mark ii and not impressed at all. Shoots ok but everything else about it sucks, magazines stock and no market for aftermarket barrels