Rip Off-Ception: The Cheap World Of Palworld Clones

[@Izzzyzzz]

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[@Dany-rx7rs]

Nothing was stolen, it's inspiration.

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Dragon quest and Shin megami tensei: are we jokes to you?

[@j4shinism]

There's a clear bias in the video. Disappointing. Didn't even mention how Nintendo didn't file those those patents until AFTER palworld came out. And you did the barest "research" into why and how this affects ALL gaming, not just palworld. Also players are allowed to stop playing a game for a while until there's an update, which you also failed to mention because a huge update was just announced several days ago. Furthermore, this goes even deeper because Sony and Nintendo have a rivalry which also affected palworld and they got caught up in their mess. There's so much misinformation in this video and ill faith talking points along with a clickbait title and thumbnail that the only good thing about it is that you didn't go into a random alt right vent about how it's also woke or something (yet). But yes, Infinity Nikki is good. If that was the only actual point you wanted to make in the video.

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@soupy_cat]

Love Nikki has an open-world now?? OMGGG

[@antoniary]

Game equivalents of the harry potter sonic obama backpack

[@alexv3372]

Or the Harry Potter Ohio backpack

[@gooeater1544]

Chat what did he mean by this

[@RedSpade37]

@@gooeater1544 There was a bootleg backpack that said Harry Potter on the top, but had a picture of Sonic that said O B A M A. The pictures of it went viral, and it's one of those "this is one hell of a bootleg" types of things.

[@earthquack30]

That backpack has inadvertent character though!

[@BL8DM8N]

I unironically kinda want one........

[@RXHMND]

Love that the font for the 2nd game is the Genshin Impact font 😭😭 My eyes thought it was a new patch note

[@rx500android]

Yes same😭😭😭

[@Domex122]

I saw it and was like: wait that's the genshin font

[@drenter477]

The first game as the same icons😭

[@happybalint]

and the world is literally just mondstadt

[@linuxstreamer8910]

even the same ui

[@kirukirukirukiruuu]

Dawg this is really just like the Pou rip-offs they devolved into madness with rip-offs or rip-offs of rip-offs descending into a never ending rabbithole

[@thehumaneasteregg5471]

Now i want a video about this

[@femoman]

For all you talked about how much they rip from Palworld and Pokemon, I'm surprised you mentioned nothing about how much they rip off from Genshin Impact! The visual styles, the player character models, even the freaking fonts!

[@hapoza]

Which also rips off Zelda, so its a rip-off inception

[@zkme2734]

Genshin begun as a rip-off of Zelda tho

[@Dreagon-yc3zq]

​@@hapoza its inspired by, there's a difference. The genshin devs have talked about being inspired by botw especially

[@Callistosdotcom]

Both of these also REALLY look like genshin impact. The second one has the same font too

[@rx500android]

Yes omg the font rip-off is wild

[@Chained_Rosez]

I think it’s because all 3 games use unity

[@trollcreativestudios1084]

@@Chained_Rosez no, it is literally the same textures and models, i can tell for sure after spending over three years playing it lol

[@Callistosdotcom]

@@Chained_Rosez Sure, but the UI in both of them is also incredibly similar visually

[@blablablablablabla-x9f]

because genshin "stole" a lot from BOTW and so did palworld and since they rip off palworld.. it really is rip off-ception woahhh (or inspiration-ception i guess 🙄)

[@ItsInkyHere47]

I was in the middle of an ethics argument but Izzzy is better

[@foundationsofdecays]

izzzyzzz is forever

[@RedSpade37]

It would be unethical to _not_ watch this

[@Chewchu1]

that first game was riddled with AI ewww

[@Chewchu1]

and the enviroment was just genshin's Monstadt copy+paste lol

[@gayrurumon]

What are the AI elements in question? I was actively expecting and looking out for generative AI presence, but didn't notice any, so I'd like to know what I missed.

[@lukero818]

@@gayrurumonmight be the character designs

[@TMMDI]

​​@gayrurumon some promo art during the beginning of the 2nd game's segment definitely looks ai

[@BryanLu0]

​@@TMMDIOP was talking about the 1st game

[@diirt]

Oh wow the first game not only ripped off palworld, but they completely lifted the entire GUI and Style of Genshin Impact. I was genuinely so confused when I saw it cuz I was watching the video from the corner of my eye, but everything looks exactly like Genshin, right down to the rendering and font, thats actually fucking wild EDIT: MIRAIBO TOO ???? Graphics are not exactly the same but the font in the closing off statement is quite literally the exact same one they use in Genshin, wharr???

[@angelofedenism]

i swear i never see people mention that the Genshin GUI has spread to like, every new open world / gacha game idk what it is it’s not that great of a UI😭

[@knoxing_around]

YES i literally was do confused why are they just walking through moonstadt???

[@irmoony]

Funnily enough, even Infinity Nikki has pretty much the exact same UI as Genshin 😂

[@yallarebraindead]

The irony of a game that copied off of existing Nintendo stuff (BOTW) only to end up being copied for another Nintendo knock off LMAOOOO

[@SketchingPandaRen]

@@angelofedenism Well, it's clean, obvious where everything is, and good for mobile. And even if it's not the best, I've never seen anyone complain about it either. (Also some companies focus on the wrong things with popular games lol)

[@machomuu]

LET'S GO INFINITY NIKKI SPONSORSHIP

[@who8967]

literally got an ad for that game right before the video started only for that to be the sponsor 😭😭

[@icravedeath.1200]

Gacha bad, gacha is literally selling gambling to minors.

[@Engel-07]

​@@icravedeath.1200i dont think kids are getting their hands on a like 5 gb game unless their parents dont do any parenting.

[@Scev]

​@@icravedeath.1200 True, but I love Nikki games

[@SamandCheese.]

@@icravedeath.1200 girl its a dress up game 😕

[@vic2249]

15:17 I took the "forgiveness" line to be apologizing to the players who have put actual money/time into a game that would only last a month

[@joshuachurchill2858]

keep in mind that patents and copyright are two different things the reason nintendo isn't suing for copyright over the designs is because they didn't have enough of a legal leg to stand on, while the designs can look very similar, they are legally distinct enough Nintendo went with the patent lawsuit because A. Patent law in japan is very strict and almost always favors the accusant, and B. it was much easier for them to build a case

[@ZalYagunRyai]

Really looks like she didn't even bother and just has bias over nintendo and pokemon with everything about palworld

[@Nassifeh]

For Pokemon to win on design theft, Pokemon's own designs would have to be original and be able to show directly how Palworld stole specific design elements, not just "cartoon pun on the idea of a dinosaur plant (a real thing) in the art style of Akira Toriyama (who neither of us ever paid for designs)". I think a lot of people don't quite get the degree to which the original Pokemon stuff is just not very original itself and that they probably have good reason not to want to go to court with that.

[@Neon-Starr]

@@ZalYagunRyaiShe just didn’t go into any detail. IMO that’s not really her being biased.

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@gaynarchist]

@@ZalYagunRyai I am not a fan of nintendo games and very much not a fan of their practices but like... Palworld is a really bad thing. To have this game that is blatantly just stolen assets and designs (and not even their first game to do this) be openly advertised at TGA and on Steam and make millions of dollars without an issue sets an incredibly scary precedent, especially for indie games which are far more likely to have their assets stolen (and the game already used stolen fan-made pokemon designs).

[@scarxnnivs]

Kewlbiverse may not be ripping off Palworld, but it sure as hell is ripping off Genshin. The UI is clearly heavily inspired from it and HSR, if not blatantly stolen, the blue design is also very reminiscant of Hi3's UI, though that's a stretch even for me. The world design is straight up copied from the game, like, uncanny levels. Even back when Genshin was being called BoTW copy you could see what was Genshin and what was BoTW. Looking at gameplay it's even creeping me out just how similar it is lol

[@haileymccurry3756]

i wouldnt say palworld 'fell from grace', it just is a part of the normal lifecycle of a popular game where its really strong atfirst and then dies off once people get their fill of it

[@DelondialLottracus]

This. Find me another predominantly single player game that doesn't dip and spike with updates. That's how it works. It's just people trying to invalidate things they don't like.

[@indiana47]

It also isn't even a full game yet. Hasn't had the 1.0 update.

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

@@DelondialLottracus I mean yeah, but Palworld's literally had a 99% drop for what is supposed to be a forever game, which doesn't bode well. Doesn't mean that itll die or anything, but games that see that big a drop rarely ever recapture their former heights (and this is coming from someone who likes the game mind you)

[@ghostgirl7089]

I think for me its more of the slow updates with new content. I know they’re taking a ton of time and work to work on the updates, but it is still very slow

[@BisonD00]

​@EnigmaticGentleman I think most of their time went to fighting with Nintendo and working around the lawsuits. Nintendo is gonna get what they want no matter what, which is messing with them until they become irrelevant. However, Pocketpair has succeeded in opening the door for other studios to produce a monster catching game. Hopefully, something sticks cause pokemon needs competition.

[@Cardinalt]

what's the point of a pokemon clone if it doesn't have muscular furry men?

[@josiebianchi3481]

fr digimon has had creatures that turn into sexy human women for decades now having some of the creatures be fuckable is a staple of the genre

[@lexa2310]

​@@josiebianchi3481Its truly a sad world when there exist no sexy human men.

[@ofanichan]

​@@josiebianchi3481 as a big Digimon fan, just wanna say that like 50% of all the mega-leveled digimon are 🥵

[@arcanine_enjoyer]

Incineroar my beloved...

[@thephantomwolf1002]

I mean, Pokemon has Incineroar, Okidogi, and probably at least one other I'm forgetting, so the people making Pokeclones gotta do the same

[@skittless_art]

The Kewlbiverse artstyle reminds me too much of the Genshin artstyle. It almost looks like a one on one.

[@mitkitty]

*sharp inhale* PLAY BEASTIEBALL, ITS A 2D OPEN WORLD MONSTER TAMING VOLLEYBALL GAME AND ITS REALLY UNIQUE AND GOOD

[@PatchworkNovelties]

Beastieball looks so fun and cute and feels like a love letter

[@ThyGeep]

16:50 Beastieball. The hidden gem you are searching for is Beastieball!

[@DapperPaperBag]

I have seen some channels mention that if Nintendo go after the throwing mechanics patents. Rockstar could actually sue them due to them owning the rights to a Mod that was created before that mechanic was patented. I'm not sure if that is actually true, however, it would be funny if that happened.

[@yunnuc]

15:07 not the genshin impact font

[@TheNickelGhost]

I wanted to erm acktually the line about Pokemon monopolizing the monster catching genre by bringing up my beloved SMT, but then I remembered that an average person would just answer "SMT? You don't actually _catch_ the personas dude"

[@TheNickelGhost]

(If you like monster catching and adorable edginess, please give the mainline SMT series a shot, please SMT V is really good I swear)

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@twilightjoltik3151]

It’s well known that Pokemon took inspiration from smt and dragon quest monsters, but it is undoubtedly far and away more popular than either of those, and a lot different tonally.

[@TheNickelGhost]

@@twilightjoltik3151 The former is exactly what I'm saying, it pains me that the original SMT has been around for ages, but is often forgotten about in the monster hunting genre. Fair point about the tone, although if the persona series isn't too chuunibyou for most, then mainline SMT shouldn't be too much of a stretch

[@palyername]

and don't even get me STARTED about monster rancher

[@qizcake]

SKYLANDERS MENTIONED!?!?!?!??! 10:58 (my wish is a deep dive of skylanders made by izzzyzzz)

[@tgf0cj101]

I need this in my life.

[@ro.sillyy]

why does the one look like genshin 😭😭😭

[@gooeater1544]

I feel like since genshin got popular theres an endless amount of knockoffs. Not just in gameplay but also artstyle. Genshins artstyle isnt groundbreakingly unique, but its unique enough that anyone copying it is VERY obvious And like.. it isnt even.. that good looking in the first place 😢

[@somethingclever4297]

They are trying to get to a whole new level of rip off.

[@warriorxheart]

Ikr- 💀

[@icravedeath.1200]

​@@gooeater1544and genshin ripped stuff off already, I mean try to compare raiden and Vergil's move sets and animations and try to say they aren't suspiciously similar.

[@icravedeath.1200]

​@@gooeater1544Vergil from Devil May Cry btw, realised I forgot to make that clear.

[@gooeater1544]

I literally downloaded one of these games last night, saw the servers were closing next year, and immediately uninstalled it. Like atp what's the point, everything I do is gonna be deleted 😭

[@KodokunaSenshi]

pro tip: play nintendo ds games

[@sungoldened]

“but that’s just a theory” … waits patiently for the second half of that sentence

[@p_n4tts]

oh my gosh, I'm so mad because someone commissioned me to do pokemon inspired illustration. But they don't gave design for the trainer and the pokemons! so I have to made that up myself! they gave a bunch of AI arts as "reference" but it so far off and make me confused instead. They kept asking for more, even though it was far more beyond the budget 😭😭

[@Nassifeh]

Just as a heads-up, but commission clients like this, especially with no real specifications and AI art reference, can be scammers. Remember not to send any refunds until you're 10000% sure their entire payment has actually cleared, and only send them back to the original payment method! It's usually best to just flat out not accept commissions from anybody who can't *clearly* articulate what they want.

[@kreeper803]

Whenever someone tells you capitalism breeds innovation, I want to now show them this video.

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

A sample size of one doesnt really prove much, its like if i pointed at the progress of phones over the years as proof that it does breed innovation

[@TheNotshauna]

@@theurbanreanimator7244 Phones are a particularly bad example because most of their development came from publicly funded research.

[@davidhong1934]

Once a new technology is invented, everyone will attempt to replicate the technology and use it in their own products without first checking if it's even applicable

[@MoranaPetrusic]

We keeping that same energy for the infinity nikki sponsorship or nah?

[@solarprogeny6736]

what's with the capitalism fanboys in the replies? relax simps she's not gonna call you back. she's busy breeding innovation

[@baconsoup4913]

For so long on the kewbiverse section i was thinking "wow, i really like the world aspects and styling" and then i realized....its genshin impact. Almost all of the world assets look just like genshin, and it was OVERLY noticable when it zoomed into that one yellow berry bush plant. Like, the whole landscape is just the same as genshin down to the tree and plant assets.

[@johnmarino6035]

I do think that some amount of copying/competition is fine in game development. Stardew Valley was inspired by Harvest Moon and Rune Factory, but it eventually became the industry standard for farming sims, for instance. But when it comes to Pokemon, they were the industry standard for monster catching games with their debut, and they've stayed that way. I think it would be hard for anyone to make any cute monster catching game without it being inherently like Pokemon. Harvest Moon was popular, but somewhat niche, so it was fairly easy for Stardew to "dethrone" it after so many years. Meanwhile Pokemon has been internationally record breaking for over 20 years. I think it would take a really unique, stylish, and fun game with enough similarities and differences to really be true competition for Pokemon.

[@azeria1]

By the way that lawsuit is complete garbage and is the equivalent of patent trolling

[@AMan-xz7tx]

I implore anyone who sees this to actually look into the patents that Nintendo owns, you will find that they have the means to sue almost every gaming company on Earth via their patents simply because Japanese patent law didn't stop them from filing patents on the most general game mechanics you can think of. I am firmly of the position that patenting a game mechanic is bullshit, I'm still salty about the "Nemesis" mechanic getting a patent

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@j.2512]

it isn't , cope and seethe

[@Huangraisy]

@Dany-rx7rshow many times are you gonna copy and paste LMAO

[@indiana47]

​@@AMan-xz7tx Japan approves any patent Nintendo sends to them.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

4:13 you say no doubt in your mind but if that was the case nintendo would've sued over that and had a slam dunk case That they're going after them thru patent trolling is rather telling. Being able to send out your monster where you want is more integral to palworld than pokemon since the battle state is in the field. Pokemon still has the battle field be static and turn based so where your monster is released really isn't important

[@Nassifeh]

They'd be in so much better a position if Pokemon itself had ever developed a really cohesive vision of its creatures or its own unique art style.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

@Nassifeh would they? The court case does not mention nor really involve the ©Ed elements What Nintendo is tackling ar the broad mechanics

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@Nassifeh]

​@@RoyalKnightVIII That's my point. They can't reliably sue over the designs because they're already derivative and they have very little chance of proving that Palworld stole their exact design elements, rather than that Palworld used the same concepts and inspirations they did. So it was their own unoriginal way of working that led to this.

[@echotrash466]

Just a note, Palworld is way more based off of Ark Survival than Pokemon. The only element that relates to Pokemon is mainly how the Pals are styled in that Pokemon esk style. Even though the number of people playing the game has lessened, people have been buying merch and Palworld was recently at some sorta anime/comic convention thing. I'm pretty sure that more than enough people went to go buy their stuff. Please do not say that Palworld has "fallen from grace", it is still EXTREMELY popular. Nintendo also created those patents a few years AFTER Palworld was released. Which is why so many people think Nintendo is super scummy for doing that. Nintendo DOES NOT WANT COMPETITION and their games are suffering BECAUSE there is NO competition. They wanna kill Palworld before it's too big to stop. They couldn't kill them over the way the creatures were designed, so they're attacking them with patents. The fact that you can no longer throw Pal Spheres to spawn your Pal's is annoying as heck, and in doing so, makes it a lot harder for Nintendo to kick them down. I think the way you release Pal's could be tweaked still that can allow for more smoothness, but for now, it's the best the game can do right now. Also, Palworld's landscapes are the way they are because they thought it would be too close to Pokemon. Hence the different style.

[@BisonD00]

Because most of them are just hardcore pokemon fans in disguise that don't want their precious pokemon to have actual competition. They talk so much about palworld copying this and that. When pokemon did the same for dragon quest. Not to mention, new pokemon being released now are just uninspired slop with a face. The people defending palworld are the old pokemon fans that are just tired of Gamefreak's trashy games. It's so pathetic and brainless to be openly supporting a monopoly. Gamefreak literally spat into 2 cases and called it scarlet & violet and they still ate it up.

[@echotrash466]

@@BisonD00 100% Agree.

[@darekpower]

I mean, all games will slowly lose numbers as they age, elden ring did that too, but nobody is saying its a bad game. The updates are steady, and yes some broke some stuff, but most things were fixed fast, and the nintendo lawsuit is pretty bad to the point where no one is cheering for them here, they aint suing for a pal looking too similar to a pokemon, its about mechanics like throwing balls to capture stuff, or riding your captured mobs around. which just shows that the designs were not the issue, nintendo just dont want the competition really. I think I really disagree with the way this video phrases palworld as "falling off" and being this "cautionary tale", when its still the same game it was before, just with more content and some fixes. Its not perfect, still has a lot of issues, some really old ones. But for goodness sake, it hit 49k players today at peak, thats plenty and a new update is just on the horizon. Theres a reason its getting so many copycats, if it was as dead in the water, then no one would be spending cash trying to impersonate it a year after release.

[@PKSunset]

Oh nah, over 8 million sold and a 20,000 concurrent player count is a fall off. Im tired of this coping

[@darekpower]

@@PKSunset okay, so elden ring, sold 25 million, its on 40k rn, so it fell off like twice as as much?? again this logic makes no sense, by it, 99% of games older then a month have fallen off lol. Its the healthy cycle of a videogame, something that was normal a few years ago, until people made it into some weird game where they wait for the numbers to drop to call the game dead lol. Some of the biggest and best games out there, at some point, will have died out completely. Like oh no, the classic half life 2 must have really fallen off, it sold 30 mill copies, but only has 9k players, it really must have gone to the dogs to be so low on players. Maybe that sort of thing has some validity with always online, always multiplayer games. But when its a majority singleplayer/coop game where you can play, and finish the game. It makes zero sense.

[@Sgt.McNamara]

@@PKSunset elden ring sold over 28 million copies and got a player avg of 40k. your argument is stupid and tbh nonexistent

[@Lindsanne96]

​@@PKSunset Tf? It's not a live service game. People finished the game, thats all

[@Grrimbark]

​@@PKSunset Keep in mind a majority of the player base is on console and those numbers cannot be counted. You are coping for bringing up stats to justify an argument that isn't supported by the stats you are using. Multiple other games sold X million copies but only have a few hundred thousand consistent players. That is how it works. Not everyone continuously plays a game. Elden Ring had similar numbers, and so did the last damn Pokemon.

[@MotherGapshin12]

Someone should make a more creepy/dark monster-catching game like SMT but with more mainstream marketing and monsters/humans that look more intimidating than cuddly.

[@crunchypeaanut]

INFINITY NIKKI MENTION 🗣🗣

[@aeriszona]

These bootlegs literally have the same textures and assets, sometimes even UI, as Genshin Impact

[@flick6664]

Honestly the big thing that puts me off from Palworld and all these Palworld-likes is how nothingburger the creature designs are. They all feel like they’re trying too hard to be cutesy/cool and appealing to the point that they just feel generic? Pokémon always has a bunch of weirdos like bugs and objects which while not everyone’s favorite help to make things not feel samey and have a lot of personality to them. My favorite Pokémon nowadays is GHOLDENGO for god’s sake, despite how silly it looks!

[@leetri]

It's because the design process starts and ends with "make it kinda look like this Pokémon but change it a bit so it's not blatantly illegal". Salazzle is a seductive lizard because it's based on the mo'o, which is a mythological Hawaiian lizard creature that shapeshift into seductive women to prey on men. Fitting for a Pokémon from a region based on Hawaii. Lovander is a seductive lizard because Salazzle is a seductive lizard.

[@gasmisenfeik875]

@@leetri Exactly, thank you, I see everybody on the Palworld side defend the designs to the teeth for no reasons except to hate on Pokémon/Game Freak/TPC/Nintendo. The whole foundation is built on spite and greed that it's insane I see people willing to sacrifice themselves for this game. How much responsibility they feel they have to “Make Pokémon Great Again” which really calls to mind how silly and petty all of this is; The designs I really like that have a lot of meaning to them are Snivy and Zygarde (specifically the 10% form: “Zygarde 10% Forme may be based on the wolf Fenrir. The green leash-like object around its neck could be based on Gleipnir, the rope that binds Fenrir. Its left front paw has a different color from the others, being green instead of black, which is possibly a reference to Fenrir biting off the god Týr's right hand in reprisal for being bound by him. This Forme could also draw inspiration from Garmr, the watchdog that guards Helheim's gate. In appearance, it resembles a Dobermann Pinscher.”) with Snivy's inspiration being part Asian vine snake is so interesting to me because of how they made a snake into a literal “Vine Snake” (“Designer Reiko Tanoue mentioned that the idea for Snivy's design came from a picture book which mentions snakes that have the appearance of vines;[1] the specific snake may be the vine snake, tree snake, or green snake.”) and the western culture inspiration is also really tight!

[@Dany-rx7rs]

​@@leetri There a kind of Design philosophy to make your monsters memorable but it doesn't mean you have to used the same artstyle.

[@bamby7766]

@@gasmisenfeik875 There is a reason why the game is currently dead. A game where it's hype solely comes from spiting another game never lasts in the long run. imo

[@jasperjazzie]

​​@@gasmisenfeik875this is so true. i get we all want to support indie projects, but it really just feels like the only reason people defend palworld so hard is specifically because it's an indie game and they want to stick up for the little guy vs the big evil company or whatever rather than any actual merit the game might have. it's so obvious that they're trying to rip off pokemon, and even if you can't prove it from a legal standpoint it's super obvious and the people who claim it's totally original are just lying to themselves, and why wouldn't you want to play a game with it's own identity?? there are a lot of games out there with a similar premise to pokemon that are about monster catching and battling but are clearly their own things, but palworld is just blatantly trying to be pokemon but in a different font.

[@weaselwolf]

I'd love to see you do a deep dive on the Nikki franchise

[@FoxGameCZ]

Did you know they do have controversies? The cultural approriation, racism and fetishisation of the native cultures they did in one of their older games. Lumping all native cultures into one amolgination of fictional kingdom literally called Wasteland. Not to mention their inability to add darker skin tones. Gatcha use, and other tactics to milk as much money from players as possible. Some of the events they had was literally predatory and like a betting game on ugly ass dress sets. Making sence of urgency to buy ingame currency to even get any rewards from events.

[@adelaestrella3338]

7:58 when I saw it, I was like "Aww, so cute!" And then it shat out fire 🤢

[@ofanichan]

I have had this exact same reaction on dating men, ngl

[@alexv3372]

@@adelaestrella3338 you could had a flying creature or maybe a jetpack or fast travel but no🥲 apparently someone thought that shatting fire would be a good idea….

[@jarethwoltman9284]

7:02 if I’m honest these little pictures they have created look a LOT like the opening pictures used when you open the Pokémon go app

[@blondebishonen]

i wish games like yokai watch got the same coverage internationally, they’re so great

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@Nephlion]

Feel like for years companies were to scared to fly to close to Pokemon, Palworld took that leap and now every other company is running with it too.

[@strobo308]

McKewl being described as a "bird with hair" is so funny because that also describes the Pokémon Squakabilly

[@LuminousXMI]

Also Pidgeotto/Pidgeot.

[@samandom8772]

And Quaxly

[@kiearahayes3771]

Not really related to the video topic, but Infinity Nikki is super duper good! I'm really glad you got a sponsorship with them, it shows that you choose based on what you think your audience would enjoy! Great video too btw

[@mag2583]

I need to get me not a rip off game, sooo glad love Nikki group sponsored you! Even their phone ver has a lot of beautiful outfits! Hope u check that ver out too

[@OvisArcana]

i'm kind of mixed between happy and sad that palworld has had the impact it has. on the one hand, i am deeply hoping that more palworld-like games will come out and i guess shake up the landscape of monster collection games; too many have tried to lean on the pokemon-like end of the scale and i would love to see a more diverse gaming landscape. on the other hand, as someone who has been working on a monster collecting concept for years and hopes to one day make it a real game, i am dreading it because i feel it will be labelled as just another palworld-inspired game. 😅

[@inquisitorkobold6037]

People can't make anything these days without it being called a ripoff of something else.

[@crackmore81]

Nintendo has been patenting shit as basic as "a character standing behind a tree still has a shadow". The patent system that was originally intended to protect creativity is now little more than a weapon for big companies that can afford frivolous lawsuits and big risks to bully smaller developers, just like the copyright system has been weaponized to DMCA bad press/reviews. The industry is heading in a direction where pretty much everything that releases will have to fit a box like "CoD-clone", "ARK-clone", "BotW/Genshin-clone", "metroidvania", "soulslike" that has been proven safe because people made dozens if not hundreds of them without getting sued for it successfully while more original mechanics like the nemesis system in Shadow of War get tried once then shelved forever. That being said, originality isn't the the be-all and end-all of quality, Infinity Nikki could be described as the Sims clothing menu slapped onto Genshin's exploration gameplay and I've been enjoying the hell out of it even though I also play those other games, having played ARK and Pokemon didn't kill my enjoyment of Palworld, in fact I welcomed it because of that, Gamefreak and Wildcard had been managing their IPs poorly enough that I was hoping for more competition that could either replace them or force them to improve to stay relevant.

[@Charmsie]

The fact I learned about miraibo go from a Pokémon KZbinr being sponsored by it is what makes me cackle, idk how it got this far lmao

[@9vz9nm9jk-iy6fp]

We need some crazy infinity war crossover between yuh gi oh, Pokémon, digimon and monster rancher

[@pillowkitty6]

Monster Farm/Rancher's failed MMORPG still makes me sad all these years later

[@VampyreDream]

as someone who spent WAY too much time playing Genshin Kewlbiverse is definitely ripping them off too, even some of the plants are direct rips of crops in the game. It makes sense they would blend another super popular game with Palworld to try and maximize the player base. The landscapes of both games too seem to be directly inspired by the Monstadt region (starter region) in Genshin. The rip off ception just keeps going!

[@Notllamalord]

I’d say Palworld copied from ARK more than Pokémon, just replacing the Dinos with Pokémon. Almost every other mechanic was the same

[@joej.5927]

you throw balls, have dungeons and use captured beasts as base builders in ark?

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@joej.5927]

@Dany-rx7rs don't forget how similar their og designs are to dragon quest 2

[@bamby7766]

it definitely was ark but reskinned with Pokemon, I was never sold on it

[@neeneko]

Yeah, Palworld is more ARK with pokemon than pokemon with guns.. but pokemon has a much larger and kinda self centered fanbase, so of course it is all about them...

[@jelyse14]

12:07 Well the pokedex is just a bestiary so how else are they gonna design... a bestiary

[@stevenlordofplush]

Say what you want i love pal world. The ark like gameplay mixed with the creatures witch are clearly legally distinct yet very similar feels like a big "i hate Nintendo" AND I LOVE IT

[@delusionaldogz]

love ur new hair !! ^___^

[@Liatriss]

Oh my gosh, the sponers are the devs of Love Nikki! I was addicted to that game for the longest time, such wonderful designs and was a lot of fun to see when people would get hella creative with challenges, the open world looks gorgeous!

[@Danganfinronpa]

Hey, Izzy, can you cover the Living Dead Dolls series? It’d be a pretty interesting topic.

[@gooeater1544]

NEED TO SEE THEM COVER THIS

[@alexv3372]

YES YES YES!!!!!!

[@localcryptid42]

Palworld is a really good game. Idc if people think it’s a rip off, it has a lot of passion and heart and I’m glad someone finally made a decent open world creature-collecting game.

[@HarleyChica]

So, it's been a while since I've played it, but what's even crazier about the Kewlbieverse game is that the graphics actually look like they come from the game that came BEFORE palworld from the same company called Craftopia. The graphics look almost ripped straight from there, which makes it even funnier that they're using Palworld's concept while using the graphics from one of the devs older games that led to Palworld.

[@plasticred]

this is more important than my guitar practice

[@theo_cat]

NOT THE YASUO BIRD 11:23

[@UniRoo69420]

16:27 Why was bro doing a little jig

[@tentavamp]

I don’t understand why people are trying to tote Palworld as this innovative, anti-big-company political piece. Like yeah I’m a Pokemon fan but I’m not a Nintendo bootlicker. This entire game has felt bad-faith from the start, especially with them straight up just stealing designs as (presumably) either laziness or some sort of gotcha to Nintendo in which case. Wow. Way to really…. stick it to the big guy by stealing designs made by passionate artists and showing that you’re willing to sink that low. Edit: Begging ya’ll to learn how to read before you reply to this comment.

[@jinnizi]

Yeah but filling patents on game mechanics that you didn't invent in the first place is very ethical and fair

[@tentavamp]

@@jinniziWhere did I say literally anything about the ethicality of what Nintendo was doing?

[@RisingRevengeance]

It would make sense if they went after the designs. They've definitely been more than just inspired with some of them. But that's not what the legal issues are about, it's nintendo thinking they own rather basic gameplay features.

[@tentavamp]

@@RisingRevengeanceI’m not even talking about the lawsuit

[@theMyRadiowasTaken]

cant believe you got "oh so you hate waffles"'d TWICE

[@amittesukku]

Looking forward to continue being the one person asking for a deep dive on Panfu in 2025! :pleading_face:

[@calam_jams]

Y'know, it might be cool to see Izzy cover the game Sky: Children of the Light because it's a really interesting flying game, but there's a lot of company controversy within the player fan base.

[@jaredthebc5926]

I remember seeing a Poketuber be sponsored by MiraiboGo which is already kinda hindering your credibility, but they litterally said the phrase "I'm gonna tell my kids this was PalWorld" which was WILDLY playing with fire considering how much it was clearly a PalWorld ripoff down to the stolen designs shown in the sponsored segment. Extra funny it's shutting down so quickly, even Concord had more going for it

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

It was Filian which just makes sense for her

[@jaredthebc5926]

@@RoyalKnightVIII Oh more than one person did this? Idk who Filian is I meant another channel who i'm not naming just to not shame anyone

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

@jaredthebc5926 well they got their paycheck so nobody really got hurt.

[@WiseKayeoss]

i swear i first heard of miraboGo from them sponsoring flamingo of all people

[@cabbagegoat5637]

Man, look at what they need to mimic a fraction of BeatieBalls power

[@joshuachurchill2858]

eh, beastieballs designs aren't very interesting either, and most of the people playing palworld are specifically looking for something thats 3d

[@valentine.58]

"let me just list off a quick 👏👏👏👏 list" was so iconic

[@blackheartmargo3429]

The skylander’s mention brought me back, that’d be a really cool video topic at some point

[@obits3]

The stuck pals glitch was fixed within a few days with the next patch, so that’s not an issue anymore. The loss of throwing out pals sucks, but it is a mitigating measure until the lawsuit with Nintendo can be settled and/or played out. Palworld does have a tutorial, so I’m not sure what you are talking about. The designs are obviously inspired by Pokémon, but that’s because of a combination of using the Pokémon art style and Pokémon using designs that mimic real life creatures and objects. Claims of things like AI and design copying are debunked currently and have been for over a half a year. Also, if there was a case for copyright, surely Nintendo would have sued based on copyright, but they didn’t, so anyone talking about copying is just being stubborn this point. I honestly think all the people talking about copying Pokémon are not paying attention at all. I’ve played the Pokémon games since I was a kid with Red and Blue. Over the years, and especially recently with the lockdowns, I played nearly all of the mainline games. I recently started playing Palworld on PS5. How can anyone in their right mind think Pokémon and Palworld are the same game?!? Like how? Palworld is a very different game. Consider your typical Pokémon game. It is basically an JRPG party system hero’s journey. The games often rely on themes of friendship and character growth. Battles are turn based (yes, I know about auto-battles and they suck). Now consider Palworld. It is a survival crafting game that uses captured creatures as part of the technology tree. Battles are real time Action JRPG style and you fight with your pals. Heck, you can’t even pause menu the battles. It is full real time fighting. Morality is flexible in Palworld, allowing the player to customize who they will be. I could go on, but I think that covers the main differences. They are not the same. They don’t feel the same. I loved Pokémon Legends Arceus, but Palworld still feels substantially different when you play the two games. Nintendo deserves all the hate it is getting from this stupid lawsuit. I’ve spent thousands on Nintendo. I have Pokémon Home and NSO. I’m strongly considering passing on Switch 2 and the new legends game over this mess. Nintendo should have learned from Palworld and used what they learned to make the next legends game better, but they are instead choosing to pay lawyers. Screw Nintendo.

[@bloomic1241]

i literally rewatched your pal world video yesterday stop reading my mind

[@valentine.58]

PETOCRAFT SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING COMEDY SKIT WTFFF

[@clownfern]

For anyone not fluent in finnish.. (peto means beast or predator) yeah wtf were they thinking😭

[@EddieNoon]

I've not laughed that much in a while lmfao

[@pinterestgirlies]

i was literally just complaining about running out of izzyzz vids to watch

[@vanillafire2652]

I ❤click not because of the content; I never plays game. But I love your style , always so uniquely yours. Seeing your outfits is like unboxe a prize, always something new for our eyes to enjoy!!!❤

[@alexv3372]

Yeah she always seems to slay

[@SwaggyG_2102]

You know your game has made it big when you have rip-offs trying to cash in on your success.

[@EyelessEspeon]

Have you heard of Cassette Beasts? It’s a monster collecting game that’s super underrated I feel

[@kooriicolada]

Moonstone Island is my current favorite critter catching game.

[@jana365]

Hope you hit the million by the end of the year. Love your videos, your style and your voice.

[@mc.gemstone]

YEAAA LETS GOOOO INFINITY NIKKI MENTION!! like its a really fun game its worth playing it's like playing through a 00s Barbie movie and say that as a positive

[@SalaD__FrienD]

"A bootleg of a bootleg?!"

[@alexv3372]

Yep

[@goodman8545]

I can't wait for the 5th generation of Pet..craft clones of Miraibo clones of Palworld clones of Pokemon clones!

[@ulamuuui]

YAAAASS INFINITY NIKKI it is my GOTY

[@ruddigers_paws]

1:31 OMG THEY MADE ANOTHER GAME??? I HAVE DRESS UP NIKI AND THATS IT

[@brxkenhalo]

there are 5 games in total! nikki up2u, hello nikki, love nikki, shining nikki and now infinity nikki. the servers of the first two games aren't up anymore

[@Missaroo]

I will say the lawsuit situation is very interesting because the way they went about it isn't what anyone thought they would go? There's a channel run by a Lawyer that while complicated(as lawsuits can be) I think he does a pretty good job at explaining the how and why of it all? (Channel is "Moon Channel") But basically Sony is backing Palworld in a similar way to how Nintendo does with pokemon 🤔 This lawsuit might not have even happened if not for Sony's involvement, because with it they become more of a threat :O I do agree a LOT of the designs are similar, I do enjoy some of the more original or even some of the more "lazy" designs(like the cow) though! Even if eventually it dies out or whatever I just have a fun time looking at creature designs for pokemon-like games c:

[@Nassifeh]

I think the reason Nintendo's not suing over them is that the dirty little secret is that Pokemon's designs aren't very unique *either*. Like one of the ones people called out a lot was just two versions of a cartoon wolf. Another is that they both have plant dinosaurs! Problem: even Pokemon's version is probably just inspired by the fact that there is something IRL called a dinosaur plant. The two Anubis adaptations both look like Anubis, Palworld's much more directly so. So it's not that Palworld's so original, but like... man, it highlights how much Pokemon does not have a very cohesive and original set of creatures.

[@distorteddivine3638]

@@Nassifeh They literally stole the design of Dragon Quest's bat monster for Golbat. Pokemon has no right to throw stones at Palworld. Also, why are we so caught up on the idea of "knock-offs" anyways? If a knock-off is beloved and arguably better to a lot of people, is it a knock-off anymore? Do we consider Pepsi the knock-off of Coca-Cola? Do we still consider Digimon or Yokai Watch to be a worthy 'rival' to Pokemon anymore, when Palworld has demonstrated far more success then those two ever have? Seriously, who care's if it's a knock-off if it's a fantastic and more engaging version of the name brand? Pokefans, stop being jealous on Nintendo's behalf. It's weirdly parasocial towards a corporation who doesn't care about you.

[@bamby7766]

@@distorteddivine3638 Palworld would never have the longevity Digimon has, which is still a very beloved phenomenon with amazing designs and lore. To compare the two is an insult, what do you think is going to happen to Palworld five years from now? And Yokai Watch was far more known globally during its release with the anime and games. Palworld is dead currently, which makes this comment even more bizarre. Most casual gamers and the normal audience that Pokemon appeals to do not care. Real life is not the internet.

[@beocore]

Izzy u should talk about the insane lore of the nikki universe please it’s so worthhhh it. you literally have to out-slay your enemies instead of fighting them

[@EduSolsa]

While orher developers are making good and innovative games in the genre, Palworld (and know its won clones) are faking all the atrention away with this drama...

[@jambasmayor9158]

For anyone wondering Palworld just thier biggest update Feybreak coming on 23 of December. I think player will come back. 😘

[@bamby7766]

Won't even pass 60k

[@jambasmayor9158]

@bamby7766 we'll just see

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

Why do people care what steam charts says? Palworld isn't even a live service and it's on Xbox and Playstation.

[@jambasmayor9158]

@dsshocktrooper7523 people still like the game. And new features will be added.

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

@@jambasmayor9158 I know, it's just stupid that people keep bringing up steam charts as some form of gottem when even Pocketpair themselves don't care about player numbers. These Pokémon fanboys and Palworld haters don't got nothing. 🤭

[@dyrr836]

If Miraibo can have an active subreddit full of fiercely dedicated ride or die fans/players despite being what it is, you can find an audience for your game/comic/story/whatever.

[@breathtakeen3479]

The bird with hair.. YAS

[@fgreen21]

I had the fun chance to listen to a woman who worked at the US patent office for many years and heard her talk about Nintendo and their role in copyright in video games. The long and short of it is that you really really shouldn't antagonize them because they will win most lawsuits. And given japan has even harsher IP protection laws, it's a likely assumption that they're going to win

[@YaBoiPatron]

In some of the promo art for Miraibo Go that one red headed girl looks suspiciously a lot like Asuka Soryu Langley from Neon Genesis Evangelion... down to the hairstyle and the VERY specific hairpieces... interesting.

[@thaariqbinaziz2821]

I dont get the fall from grace , the game is still top 15 most active game on steam and people just dont play the same game over and over Please show me a game where the player number keep rising infinitely.....

[@princembat]

the monster collection genre is doing fairly well on roblox, but its also roblox so take that how you will. ever since nintendo threw a fit a few years back and got all the pokemon games (at the time) taken off the website, people actually had to make their own stuff instead. they arent bad for what they are lol

[@Cherry-vg4bp]

INFINITY NIKKI SPONSORSHIP??? that’s so cool omg

[@ikeychain]

Congrats on reaching 1 million subs soon! You deserve it

[@ivorycrowe9456]

The map and graphical style of Kewlbi is just genshin impact...

[@lus6448]

The dislike that izzy that has for pal world is Making her bais again it, like the pal world lawsuit from Nintendo is clear patent abuse, and the ripping off model things hasn't been proven

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Yeah, it would have been proven a long time ago.

[@Neon-Starr]

Izzy never said that it wasn’t abuse, she just didn’t go into it bc that’s not what the vids about lol

[@fritzy8318]

Wahhhhhhhhhhh

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Pokemon took eggs (Gen 2), variants, and Terastilization (Digimon Rearise,2018) from Digimon. Z-ring (Yokai watch), Whisper (Rotom Dex), Z-crystal (Yo-kai medal),etc from Yo-kai watch. I'm sure the 2D Artstyle in Pokemon S/V is from TemTem.

[@bamby7766]

Cope

[@jaystitches]

the home in kewlbiverse looks identical to the base in slime rancher

[@Unfortunately_Mickey]

Pokemon also didn't apply for those patents until after Palworld came out

[@KyleZonePlus]

We do not care

[@blazingbuizel7194]

​@@ambassadoroftheandromedagalaxy The issue is that if you can't prove ownership of any part of a game's mechanics at all, there would be nothing stopping someone from gutting a game to its code, taking it, giving it a fresh coat of paint to not trigger copyright, and sending it out as a fully fledged game. The system being abused is bad, but not being able to cover very specific use cases to protect against exact copying would really expand the shovelware market and cause the opposite issue. And usually, the patents are *very* specific. Usually.

[@RND_ADV_X]

Your lip color makes me think you'd look amazing in a vampire / elf aesthetic. Always enjoy your videos! 🎉

[@rx500android]

The way some of them are ripping off Genshin Impact as well

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Artstyle can't be copyrighted.