Rise and Fall of the Rouran Mongol Empire

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@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
This video took longer to make then usual due to less time I had to invest in Khan‘s Den in November. However, I hope it was worth making in as I actually wanted to leave out the Rouran and continue with the Celestial Türks. However, seeing how often we have mentioned the Rouran within the past four years while never really explaining their state and origin, I feel that this video was long overdue. So as always, enjoy. And if you really like what you are watching, consider becoming a member.
@ozguraydogan8814
@ozguraydogan8814 Жыл бұрын
Merhaba siteplerin hikayesini cok ayrintili anlatiyorsun saol liseden beri hep merak etmisimdir bunlar olurken kuzeyde neler oluyor elinde yeterince veri varsa sibirya icin bir ozet video yapabilirmisin
@georo233
@georo233 Жыл бұрын
The videos are nice, but Avars and Rouran are in fact different clans different Y Dna, different geographic origins .
@counterprogressive5800
@counterprogressive5800 10 ай бұрын
the five barbarian tribes in the north were turks and caucasian looking people as described by chinese. the depiction of turks as east asians is false. on top of that the avars were slavs, so there is no reason for all these east asian looking people in the video.
@OtKerk
@OtKerk 10 ай бұрын
@@georo233 Not to mistake with modern Avars (in Dagestan etc). Avars from Ruaran was shortly in Pannonia and, as a distinct people, long assimilated and extinct. Modern-day Avars have nothing to do with it and they just have the same name. Likewise the modern-day Tatars and Xianbei (Mongolian) Tatars of pre-Genghis Khan. Just the name is transferred due to complex circumstances. I saw Avars in Russia being confused: They should not worry! It is not about them. Moreover, the word 'Xianbei' is now being re-transcribed and is being written as 'Serbi', not "Xianbei'. Again, it has nothing to do with Serbs in Balkans. They should all relax.
@georo233
@georo233 10 ай бұрын
not sure what you're referring about. I wasnt talking about modern Caucasian 'Avars' or hypotheses about the etymolgy of Srbi . The etymologyical origin of Avar is not even clear. The Ruruan link is unvoncinving. More convincing is Harmatta's etymology 'Varchons' - 'Red Huns' @@OtKerk
@emred1644
@emred1644 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work. I would like to see a vid about conflicts between Tang dynasty, Khitans, Koreans and Eastern Göktürks too!
@klausrainherz4605
@klausrainherz4605 5 ай бұрын
Rouran khanate is the country ruled by the first Khan of the world. During the Rouran khanate, China was not ruled by Han Chinese. China was ruled by the Xianbei, and the emperor was from Toba province. This is the beginning of the history of nomads ruling China, we can see Toba wei, Khitan, Mongol empire, Yuan, Manj qing dynasty.
@michaellawrence588
@michaellawrence588 3 ай бұрын
In the north of the country. The ruling dynasties in the south were Han Chinese.
@balerd
@balerd 2 ай бұрын
True that!
@buryadmongol11
@buryadmongol11 7 ай бұрын
I’m from Khongirat tribe from Buryad-Mongols, we are descendants of Borte Chino, Chingizkhan
@Nenet-rj9yr
@Nenet-rj9yr 6 ай бұрын
Mongolised Gokturks...are Buryats
@buryadmongol11
@buryadmongol11 6 ай бұрын
@@Nenet-rj9yr learn some history, Buryad-Mongols are one of the Ancient Mongolian Tribe who conquered the world with Chingiskhan, and only half of the princesses of the bloodline of the Mongolian Borjigin Clan were from the Mongolian Tribe Khongirad
@buryadmongol11
@buryadmongol11 4 ай бұрын
@@Nenet-rj9yr no, Gok Turks came to the land of the Kiyad and Chonos and make genocide, this is why we hide in the place of Ergene Hun, there few centuries we survive there born the Khongirad (Buryad-Mongols) clan and Uryanghai (Tuva-Mongols) clan. Then we destroy Gok Turks and took our ancestors lands back around the Lake Baikal and Mongolian Plateau from Enisei river to Pacific Ocean. This is how we become the Mongols (“Munke” means Eternal; “Gol” means “branch”) because we are have the same roots of the same branch. Everyone who have connected by the fathers side to this four Mongol clan Kiyad, Chonos, Uryanghai and Khongirad are Mongols. All Buryad-Mongolian clans are came from the Khongirad: Ekhirit, Bulagat, Olkhonut, Kharanut, Khorilas, Tumed, Bargut… etc.
@buryadmongol11
@buryadmongol11 4 ай бұрын
@@Nenet-rj9yr false, Gok Turks are invade our ancestors lands around the Lake Baigaal Dalai (Baikal Lake), make genocide, and only the Kiyad and Chonos survive in the land Ergene Hun and then from them we have the Khongirad clan (Budyad-Mongols) and the Uryanghai clan (Tuva-Mongol). After this we make the Khamag Mongol confederation and took our land back.
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
​@@Nenet-rj9yrnice joke
@mehmetcaglarozgur7679
@mehmetcaglarozgur7679 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work.
@nonozebra4196
@nonozebra4196 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an amazing video, a treasure of knowledge, the paintings are exquisite ❤❤❤
@Bjorn_Algiz
@Bjorn_Algiz Жыл бұрын
Fascinating history! Lovely video indeed. 😮
@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@turktarihi266
@turktarihi266 Жыл бұрын
Another great video by Khans den!
@williamdarocha5383
@williamdarocha5383 Жыл бұрын
A pessoal, sou um estudioso dos povos antigos das estepes, qual a diferença na cultura rouran pra gokturk? Obrigado
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
Provávelmente o governos dos dois eram semelhantes, eu diria que a maior diferença é que os Rouranos provávelmente falavam uma antiga variante de Mongol, e os Goturcos falavam Turcomano Comum.
@williamdarocha5383
@williamdarocha5383 Жыл бұрын
@@Nastya_07 sim, entendi, o modelo cultural era praticamente idêntico, mudando o dialeto.
@frknmtl7832
@frknmtl7832 Жыл бұрын
Speak english, despacito
@countmakealot2350
@countmakealot2350 Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting Bumin married a Tuoba woman. The most famous fictional Tuoba woman was Mulan. In the Ballad of Mulan, Mulan fought in the Wei army against the Rouran. Disney’s Mulan was Chinese but Mulan was definitely not Chinese in the original ballad.
@Khagun.
@Khagun. Жыл бұрын
Touba? Where did they come from? We’re they related to tufan kingdom? Are touba related to Tibetans and ancient monpa of monyul ( Tibet) ? Really want to see if there was interaction with the Tibetan platue, is chin empire desecendets or related to Tibetan/monpa pepole?
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
@@Khagun. The Tuoba were either Oghur Turkic or Para-Mongolic-speaking and likely originated in Inner Mongolia, as they first established the Principality of Dai there.
@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
Mulan‘s story first appeared a century earlier, though. But yes, there are also reports of Rouran rulers and nobles marrying women from the Wei Empire.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
​@@Khagun.Hard to figure out since the names of Tuoba members were Sinicized from very early on but they seem to be related to the Khitans and thereby Para-Mongolic speakers but there are also many academics who argue for an Oghur Turkic origin
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad Жыл бұрын
@@Nastya_07 the Language Seems to be mix of both because the tuoba were initially Xiongnu’s who than Lived in the Xianbei which possible switched/ mixed their language
@OtKerk
@OtKerk 10 ай бұрын
The Avars are not that interesting, where came they from etc. The best point here is that Ruaran tribe (now proved to have been speaking the Mongolian language) is recognized as a Ruaran Mongol Tribe. That's what matters. As to the other smaller tribes mentioned here, well, they are not yet properly studied in academia.
@отгонтогтохшагдар
@отгонтогтохшагдар 10 күн бұрын
YES
@MM-fv1pi
@MM-fv1pi Жыл бұрын
There are still some people in QafQaz calling themselves as AVARs claiming to be related into khazars. Evidences suggest that Avars in Europe were not related to none other than these.
@blu9371
@blu9371 Жыл бұрын
I am Romanian and I love this Era of the Huns, Gepids (germanic vlachs who mingled with huns) and Avars (who sent the slavs to the Dinaric Mountains). This is such a mysterious era of history for the proto-romanians. 🇷🇴❤🇲🇳
@ravenalbj
@ravenalbj Жыл бұрын
Here is what I wrote to somebody who know as much history as you do. xxxx Your DNA is as accurate as the Covid 19 pandemic. My pen name is Raven Alb J and you write this name on Google and see who you are talking with. You do not know any history whatsoever, yet you argue with me, who studied in debt all the Antiquity books that survived and were translated in English. I wrote books on history and proved that historians are wrong most of the time. There is a very good reason Romanians are never tested, or mentioned anywhere by Historians. It is because I debated your best historians on earth on internet, and wiped the flor with them. I will show you how much Romanian language influenced all the European languages. CREIER means "brain" in Romanian. CREATION very clearly evolved from Romanian CREIER (brain). No CREIER no CREATION!!! From CREIER the word CRANIUM evolved, because CREIER in in the CRANIUM.. From CREIER/CRANIUM the word CREST evolved, because the CREST is on top of the CRANIUM. Do you get it??? Only in the Romanian language the word CREIER (brain) exist. In Latin it is CEREBRUM and in Greek EGKEPHALOS. I have hundreds of examples like this, and your great historians could not deny any of them. Not a single one. That is why the hate me so much, and you will never see anything about Romanians in their subjects. I can't put anything on you tube, because they will not show my videos period. Why are they so afraid of me if I am wrong??? xxxx There it is. Show me what all those historians could not. What do you see wrong whit the example of the Romanian language I gave??? I am sick of you Romanians who know nothing, yet go against me only to look smart!!!
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
I did not know the vlachs were Germanic. So, Romanians are basically romanised germanics?
@Userjunior2016
@Userjunior2016 Жыл бұрын
Hi Emre As always excellent work with a lot of knowledge Thank you
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
Modern Afgan region and city of Qunduz called in the past Warvaliz, Walwaliz and the ancient Warahsha in the modern times near Buhara, Uzbekistan.
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
Where are they? I only see people who look like Chinese or Mongols
@armorman8737
@armorman8737 Жыл бұрын
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب( Hazara,Kara Khitai and Turkic )
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
@@armorman8737 But I do not know their race. They say they are Turks, Mongols, or Tatars
@İyiŞanslarHerkese
@İyiŞanslarHerkese Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I’ve been reading some books on Avars recently and notice an interesting information: a Utighur prince was called "Anagaius", a name similar to Anagui. Another thing is that, maybe because it was narrated by AI, the Chinese pronunciations are not good.
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
The Bulgars often used Mongolian names. And the Chuvash vocabulary is full of Mongolian words. Most likely, these words reached the Avars, perhaps with some Hun-Xianbei tribes like Sabir.
@eixes
@eixes Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I have never seen the historical value of the rourans and other peoples of great extent on the territory of present-day Mongolia for study, perceiving them as only nomads, that is, a barbarian, as they are seen by the Chinese civilized empires to the south, but now I understand that this is largely erroneous and extremely biased representation. For example, the same Manchus or Jurchens were not nomads and practiced sedentary farming, being subject to the process of Sinification, and it is clear that "wild" peoples would not be able to conquer China or fight with Chinese empires on equal terms if they were exclusively wild and inept. The same Northern Wei (whose rulers initially bore the surname Tuoba) were originally a tribe that deeply absorbed the surrounding Chinese (Han*) culture entered the service of the dying Jin Empire and then firmly settled in the north of modern China laying the foundation for its own Xianbei empire. And they even competed on equal terms with the southern ethnically Han empires, although eventually the differences between them blurred by the Sui era. In general, an interesting video!
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
​@user-mm7zi4ue7dGog and Magog are not barbarians but monsters
@Nenet-rj9yr
@Nenet-rj9yr 6 ай бұрын
When we see that the great wall was built against the nomads it states importance on central asian people
@khanimran7465
@khanimran7465 Жыл бұрын
You av done a great job an balanced it out beautifully i love your video's bro keep up the good an thank you for enlightening us
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad Жыл бұрын
Theophylact Simocattes asserts that Bayan's people had only adopted the awe-inspiring name of the Avars proper and that in fact the two tribes of these Pseudo-Avars, the Var and the Chunni, were of the same origin and spoke the same language, as the peoples joining them later; they belonged to the Oghur (Ogor, Ugor) ethnic group which spoke in all probability an Altaic or to be more exact a Bulghar- Turkic dialect. Denis Sinor | The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia, Volume 1. Cambridge University Press, 1990 (pp.222)
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Жыл бұрын
Bayan was the name of two of it's rulers.....Bayan is only used as a female name in Turkic but in Mongolian Bayan is used as a MALE name fro Mongol Bayan(wealthy/rich).
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
​@@teovu5557Back then it was a male name to, a royal of the Oghur Bulgars was named "Batbayan". Early Western Turkic bayan lives on in Chuvash puyan 'rich (person)', which derives from the Grundwort puy- 'to become rich' originating from the ultimate Proto-Turkic "bāy"
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
The Chunni/Hunnic component of the Pannonian Avars probably comes from the White Huns since the Göktürk invasion of the Hephthalite lands is more or less parallel to the westward migration of the Avars (560's)
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
​@@nenenindonuTell this to the Turk Empire, they say they killed us all
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
​@@nenenindonu😂😂😂😂😂😂😂The Volga Bulgarians are Slavs, you idiot, according to old historical books, and the Arabs said they are Slavs.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын
Super wonderful historical coverage video about Rouran Empire uprisings in Central Asia... thank you(🙏 Khan Den) channel for sharing this remarkable historical coverage video
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
You mean the racist tribe that has turned the tribes into mere slaves? 😂😂😂😂😂
@armorman8737
@armorman8737 Жыл бұрын
Rouran in Mongolia
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
My opinion Pseudo Avars=Warhunas were not exact Rouran kagan Anagui's lineage maybe they were members of the Rouran imperial elite.
@kevinkevinkevin1909
@kevinkevinkevin1909 Жыл бұрын
Korea has largest written Asian history books intact because of its military which protected the sovereignty. China was conquered often by northern nomadic people and had its history books burnt. Please look into Korean history books, GoJoseon/Jurchen, HawnDanGoDan, etc.... it goes back 10,000 years. The book explain how southeast Asian subordinate, HauDi, challenged 27 th Korean Jiwoo Emperor for independence. HauDi is also known as 1st king of China, yellow king, by Chinese historian. HaunDi, after losing all his battle against Jiwoo Emperor, would get his independence when Jiwoo Emperor would die of old age.
@lokhin4283
@lokhin4283 11 ай бұрын
korean fantasy history. that is why your territory very small, as small as your d1ck.
@nia-f5e
@nia-f5e Жыл бұрын
Fantastic historic documentary film
@Khagun.
@Khagun. Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel as always love it , but there is always a blank when it comes to tibetan platue in relation with the surrounding area, would love to know more ❤ Proto Tibetans were called Monpa from and Tibet was called monyul it seems , tufan empire ?
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
​@user-mm7zi4ue7dThe Aryans who enslaved the Indians in North India appear to be evil racists
@pars-efe3543
@pars-efe3543 Жыл бұрын
​@user-mm7zi4ue7dThey are not Indian, they are related to the Han Chinese, they separated in ancient times
@pasterofmuppets666
@pasterofmuppets666 Жыл бұрын
​​​@user-mm7zi4ue7dTibetans are not indians you dumbass 😂
@Mahakhala
@Mahakhala Жыл бұрын
​@user-mm7zi4ue7dlmao
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
Tabgachi captured Tibetan tribes, perhaps some dynasties were Mongolian among Tibetans
@Lstsldr
@Lstsldr 7 ай бұрын
Tarih öğrenmek için muhteşem bir yapıt. Teşekkürler.
@lkhbhydroponic6858
@lkhbhydroponic6858 7 ай бұрын
Mongols never come from anywhere or gone anywhere this is stupid turk claim they were from Mongolia which is absolutely false. Hunnu dunhu were same people dunhu means east hunnu . They spoke same as modern Mongols its bean priven by rock writing. Turks have no claim anywhere in central asian empires
@User-c1c4y
@User-c1c4y 5 ай бұрын
How truthful
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
@@User-c1c4y The Hu, Rong, Loufan (also Hu tribe) tribes fled from General Meng Tian to Mongolia. The Hu tribes are Mongols, the Rong were assimilated by the Hu tribes.
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
Well, linguistically Huns were Turkic while Donghu were Mongolic. So not same people.
@lkhbhydroponic6858
@lkhbhydroponic6858 3 ай бұрын
@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Hun and Hunnu is the same people Hun is European name for Hunnu dunhu is chinese name for Hunnu. All that turkic bullshit is made up turk shit . Ancient Turug empire is descendents of the Hunnu same as Mongols. Stop claiming someone's history thats embarrassing
@Mr.Vercetti-7
@Mr.Vercetti-7 5 күн бұрын
What are you smoking? Turks are a Central Asian people
@kiepyon1
@kiepyon1 6 ай бұрын
Always love this channel after i addicted to North South Dynasty
@İyiŞanslarHerkese
@İyiŞanslarHerkese Жыл бұрын
Where’s the footage of Peter B. Golden from? He is a great scholar and I love reading his works.
@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
Yes he indeed is. The footage is from an interview I conducted a while back. There’s more to watch in the video about the Khazars, and I’ll show some more footage in the next video about the Göktürks.
@alsetalokin88
@alsetalokin88 Жыл бұрын
7:17 "if you wander following the grass and water you're dead. you have to know where the grass and the water is...as they move from pasturage to pasturage." that's basically wandering following the grass and water. you wander to find grass and water then you settle. and then repeat. also, nomadic high standard of living came from conquests and plundering. same strategy as the contemporary west and colonialism. easiest way to get wealthy.
@xxdekuxx362
@xxdekuxx362 Ай бұрын
U didnt really understand
@bakdakal
@bakdakal Жыл бұрын
Harika olmuş emeğine sağlık. I thought that "survivors" of the Hephthalites established the Avar empire?
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
The Hyattals were not from the Huns, and why, when they came to Central Asia, did they serve the Persian Empire and fight with them against the Romans?
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of disputed, but contemporary sources to the Pannonian Avars call them "Pseudo-Avars", and also describe their other name "Varchonites" the "Var" comes from the Uar and "chonites" comes from Xionites, I would say this theory is more accurate than the Rouran-Avar continuity, because the Rouran probably spoke an early variety of Mongolic, while the Avars probably spoke Turkic.
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
@@Nastya_07 No need to talk nonsense. Avars were Juan Juan. Their DNA is completely recent from Mongolia. And it is nonsense to say that Khuni and Varkhonites were Turks. The Ephthalite elite was Avar, but had arrived there in the 4th century. When Khagan Juan Mongul founded the cities of Tokhar
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 3 ай бұрын
​@@dadlight3783 It is true that they had recent Northeast Asian DNA, but the Pannonian Avar elite had a different Y-DNA haplogroup than the Rourans, and we know that other Turkic peoples were subjugated by the Rouran, notably the Ashina Did the Hephthalites really descend from the Rouran elite? As far as I know they were merely vassals initially, and in fact Chinese sources state that the Hephthalites were a branch of the Tiele (which were undeniably Turkic) and migrated from the Altai region and if we count the link to the Xiongnu, most Xiongnu glosses appear to be Turkic and Chinese sources state that the Yueban (Northern Xiongnu remnants) had the same language and customs as the Tiele (which were again undeniably Turkic) Furthermore, some sources contemporary to the Pannonian Avars call them "Pseudo-Avars" and the Buyla inscription (dated to the Avar period), while technically still undeciphered most scholars consider it to have been written in an Oghur Turkic language
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
​@@Nastya_07in source of rouran khagnate avars is mongol because modern mongol bulkan found avar and rouran is mongol
@tedchandran
@tedchandran Жыл бұрын
Jai Hinduja. After their falls, the nomadic people under all great Asiatic steppe Empires from the Hsiong-nu, Xian-bei, Rouran, Gokturks, Yugur aka Uigher, Khitan aka Liao, Nuzhen aka Jin, Mongol aka Yuan to Manchu aka Qing are mostly assimilated into the Northern Chinese population.
@ufasipailovo
@ufasipailovo Жыл бұрын
Min Tatar in Ufa, Ural
@sascomando
@sascomando Жыл бұрын
selam aleykum rahatsız ettiğim için kusura bakmayın dulkadiogularri hakkında bilgi almak istedim bunlar türk mü etnik kökenleri türk mü? ve geldikleri yerden hangi tribün geliyorlar oğhuz? Sagolun…
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 8 ай бұрын
Ve aleyküm selam bu bir sorumu ??? DulKadiroğulları tabiki Türk Oğuzlardan geldiler
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
Axşena(e) in the Soğdian is a Blue
@bair4ik
@bair4ik 7 ай бұрын
The Xiongnu speak Proto-Mongolian, but Xianbi or Donghu seems to be in Proto-Tungusic? I heard this according to the latest data from a scientist from the Far Eastern Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences. How do you like this version?
@Nenet-rj9yr
@Nenet-rj9yr 6 ай бұрын
Xiongnu was Proto turkic with the elites..
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
Xiongnu moved out of Mongolia, they went to India and Europe. Their descendants are Turkic peoples.
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
About Donghu being tungusic, I have heard of it. But one Mongolian woman convinced me Donghu were Mongolic people. Gumilev was also supporting this idea.
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 2 ай бұрын
Tungusic peoples descend from the Sushen that lived in Eastern Manchuria Donghu and Xianbei were clearly not Tungusic, both the Mongols and the Khitans descended from the Xianbei and the Xianbei descended from the Donghu
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
Lol xiognu is doesn't have proof about language but genetically they are similar mongols.xianbei and Wuhan is donghu. in source of xianbei and Wuhan is proto mongol speaker so donghu is mongol
@JackyLiu-8210
@JackyLiu-8210 Ай бұрын
Xiongnu, Xianbei, Rouran, these are Chinese names, and only appear in Chinese canonical books. 2,500 years ago, the Chinese compiled the first collection of poems, and there was no written language on the grassland. The Mongol nationality was shaped by Genghis Khan in the 12th century, and the earliest Mongolian writing appeared at the same time. The ethnic identity on the grassland was complex and chaotic. When the Tang Dynasty defeated the Turks, they were neither white nor Muslim, and they were nothing like today's Turks. Historically, most of the Xiongnu, Xianbei, and Rouran surrendered to China, took the initiative to speak Chinese, and joined the Han ethnic group. At that time, the ancestors of Mongols were still in the forests of the northeast. These are clearly recorded in history. We Chinese are the original recorders of Asian historyt. Mongolia was not formed until the 12th century, and there was no Mongolia before that. Xiongnu, Xianbei, and Rouran are not Mongol.
@virgiljjacas1229
@virgiljjacas1229 Жыл бұрын
☝️☝️☝️ Thank you for sharing it . ☝️☝️☝️
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
Toba Wei=Tabg'ach mentioned even Orkhon Yenisey scripts as a coward and treacherous people. A small part of Toba Wei were a completely Sinicized Steppe people as well. The place of Tuoba-Toba Wei ambassador in a Turkic royal court around the threshold-doorstep.
@armorman8737
@armorman8737 Жыл бұрын
Tamgaj or Tabgach
@armorman8737
@armorman8737 Жыл бұрын
that the Karakhanid ruler used the name Tabgach like Tamgach Khan (Khan of China )
@lt419
@lt419 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, today we are living in a time when distorting, re-imagining and rewriting other nations' histories making them their own is almost normalised. Seems like so much resources flow towards these kind of desperate brain washing exercises all over the internet. Mongolians always lived in their motherland Mongolia and they did not arrive from somewhere else. The Ruran rock sctipt found in Mongolia has never been decoded into turkish. On the contrary, recently it has been decoded by Mongolian linguists and it has proven that the vocabulary and grammar structure is Mongolian, prooving that the elits and the ruling class were Mongolians, not turks. Human DNA's found in many Hunnu elitt's burials found in Mongolia have also proven that they match Modern Mongolian people's DNA, not turks'.
@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
Your source for your claim that "Mongolians always lived in Mongolia"? I used several hundred ancient and medieval sources as well as modern academic studies from all over the world for the making of this and other videos. And no, none of them were of Turkish descent.
@lt419
@lt419 Жыл бұрын
@KhansDen Don't forget that up until very recently, Eurocentric historians over emphasised Turkic involvement in Mongolian ancient history while diminishing or even completely omitting Mongolian roles. Fortunately, many modern historians now revisiting the real history of the Mongols and bringing back together the lost pieces. It's interesting that you haven't addressed my point on the Ruran rock inscription. Why are Turks unable to decipher its meaning? How about Mongolian DNA?
@Nenet-rj9yr
@Nenet-rj9yr 6 ай бұрын
​@@lt419khans den brings science accepted by respected science people...what do you bring?
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
@@Nenet-rj9yr The real linguistic ancestors of the Turkic-speaking people are some branch of the Dingling. Modern Turkic-speaking people do not have the DNA of the Han, of whom there were a huge number in the Xiongnu Empire. The Turkic-speaking people were captured during the expansion of the imperial Hu people who came from Manchuria, where they find parallels with ordinary burials in Mongolia and Transbaikalia from the time of the Xiongnu. For some reason, modern scientists divide the Xiongnu into western and eastern. This could not be. In early Chinese sources it is clearly written that in the west lived the Yueji (there is no evidence of their Iranian language), Kirghiz and Dingling. The Lesser Yueji lived next to the Xianbei, Avar, Xiongnu, Di, Rong. The Lesser Yueji are also called the Jie tribe and their rhyme is more like the Yeniseian one.
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
Russian hisrorians say Mongols came to Mongolia in 10th century.
@babaktehrani
@babaktehrani Жыл бұрын
One intresting point that may be related to Avars is that in Farsi the word AvarÉ (آواره) means a person with no home and also the word Avar (آوار) means construcrtion debris and it is used for when large amounts of debri fall down and demolish . This is just a guess but it could have rooted in times when Avars had to move in large groups to west and encountered Sassanid Persians
@khanimran7465
@khanimran7465 Жыл бұрын
We use da same word one who keeps moving
@ravenalbj
@ravenalbj Жыл бұрын
The word AVERE means "wealth" in Romanian. AVARI means "wealthy people", and wealthy they were. When the Franks defeated the Avars, 50 wagons of gold were carried to Charlemagne. Stop calling the Huns, Avars, and Mongols "Turks". They were Skits, Romanian ancestors. There is the city of HUNEDOARA in Romania and it means "city of the Huns". Procopius makes clear that Huns were not Turks (the name Turk did not exist at that time) and that they were related to the Goths. Where do you people get these stupid information???
@rahimJajneri
@rahimJajneri Жыл бұрын
​@@ravenalbj Chup bilkul Chup Kyuon 🌶 🔥 lagi,
@khanimran7465
@khanimran7465 Жыл бұрын
@neloglass the huns where not white if they were related to the goths that's why they were defeated an all the other germanic tribes hell even the Romans said they av never seen a people like them before the huns were Asian most likely turkic THE GREAT TURKIC EMPIRE'S
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب Жыл бұрын
​@@khanimran7465Therefore, they lost to the Persians and were slaughtered weak
@bluerose-eg8ln
@bluerose-eg8ln Жыл бұрын
Nice
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 6 ай бұрын
Thanks , but 0:52= THEY ARE HERE IN US , IN HUNGARY ! AS AVAR KAGHANATE FROM URAL MONTAIN TO CZEHIA AND MORE . THEY ARE THE " BLU - EASTERN HUNS " NOWDAYS MANY IN KOREAN PENINSULA . Etc...
@stevoplex
@stevoplex Жыл бұрын
Clearly, the Klingons are ancient descendants who somehow ended up in outer space.
@moefinesse9878
@moefinesse9878 Жыл бұрын
Khabib Nurmagomedov has entered the chat. Man is an ethnic Avar from the Caucasus mountains
@hubiraithegreat
@hubiraithegreat 3 ай бұрын
I think we had an argument about the title qaghan on the Qarakhanid video, and I still think that the titles qaghan and khan were not the same, and you can't simply call yourself qaghan as Golden also points out, whereas unfortunately western language literature cannot distinguish this, and more ironically, the same mistake is repeated by Turkish academics who simply read and copy them due to lack of skills in reading the primary sourcea. The Chinese made a difference between the two, and Türk qaghans also seem to have made the distinction.
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad Жыл бұрын
You made a mistake, the Rourans were not the ancestors of Avars because the European avars were Turkic and are nowadays called as “Pseudo-Avars” besides the rourans were Proto Para Mongols which is commonly confused with modern Mongols.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Жыл бұрын
no academic source has concluded that they were Turkic and recent genetic test on early Avar graves yields DNA commonly found in Mongolic and Tungusic people rather then Turkic.
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad Жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 Keyser et al. 2020, pp. 1, 8-9. "[O]ur findings confirmed that the Xiongnu had a strongly admixed mitochondrial and Y-chromosome gene pools and revealed a significant western component in the Xiongnu group studied.... [W]e propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants... [E]ast Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian Conqueror elite and very likely belonged to the branch that was observed in our Xiongnu samples. Moreover, haplogroups Q1a and N1a were also major components of these nomadic groups, reinforcing the view that Huns (and thus Avars and Hungarian invaders) might derive from the Xiongnu as was proposed until the eighteenth century but strongly disputed since... Some Xiongnu paternal and maternal haplotypes could be found in the gene pool of the Huns, the Avars, as well as Mongolian and Hungarian conquerors."
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad Жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557the Ruling class seems to belong to Haplogroup N, which suggested more a Turkic origin rather than Para Mongols or either Tungusic. Also Byzantine sources reports that bayan spoke hunnic (Oghuric Turkic).
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Жыл бұрын
Hapogroup N is generally considered that of the Finno-Ugric people not Turkic which is dominated by Ydna Q and R1a1a m95 Ydna N is found in ALL Finno-Urgic people in high levels but not all Turkic people save for the ones that live in Siberia and is much lower in %.
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
Y N-F4205 is our paternal lineage there is a Turkic, Inner Mongolian, Eastern European Slavic and Adyg-Cherkez samples. Probably Var+Huna population lately changed to the Avar. Existing original Rouran paleogenetic samples belongs to Y haplogroup C as I remember.
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog Жыл бұрын
Please make a video covering the touba tagbayr turkic dynasties of northern china
@jojomons8321
@jojomons8321 Жыл бұрын
khabib is avars ...descendant rouran?
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
No, despite their name, the Caucasian Avars are not related to the Avars mentioned in the video.
@Mahakhala
@Mahakhala Жыл бұрын
Caucasian Avars ≠ Nomad Avars
@JHC-tl4qb
@JHC-tl4qb 2 ай бұрын
@@Nastya_07 caucasoid avars were colonized subjects of the asian avars for centuries. quit coping
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 2 ай бұрын
@@JHC-tl4qb Were they? Pretty sure the Gokturks were already in Crimea in 576, the Pannonian Avars came at just around 2 decades before that
@userwsyz
@userwsyz Жыл бұрын
Talking nonsense and wrong map. The Jin dynasty were by the Donghu people. Your map shows Jin in the southeast China, which were the Song Dynasty of the Han Chinese. Donghu people were mongoloid people and the Manchu are their decedents.
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
Manchus descend from the Sushen who lived east of the Donghu. And also you're confusing the 晉 dynasty which appears in the video with the 金 dynasty, contemporary of the Song.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
Avars more correctly Varchonites were a union of Oghur Turkic tribes and had no connection to the Rouran Avars whose language was Para-Mongolic Ruan Ruan while that of the Pannonian Avars is recorded in the Buyla inscription and agreed to be Oghur Turkic
@aqeeldean686
@aqeeldean686 Жыл бұрын
It may be true. But your claim is similar to saying that the Chagatai Khaganate has no ties to their paternal Chingizid Mongolian empire since the Chingizids spoked Mongolian and the Chagatais spoke a type of Turkic. What is true is that both states had multiple spoken languages.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
​@@aqeeldean686The Turkic population of the Chagatai Khanate was a known phenomenon and there's clear information about the empires overall history, however there's no evidence of a Mongolic populace within the Avar Khaganate let alone it's ethnic core or ruling class to begin with, the first mention of Mongolic languages and tribes in the Pontic steppe region came in the 13th century under the Mongol Empire while Turkic (Oghuric) languages and tribes had entered Roman sources as early as the 5th century parallel to the invasion of the Huns
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
​@@aqeeldean686Based on a reconstruction of Yueban history, Lev Gumilev argued against a then-widespread view that the Rouran were synonymous with the "Avars" or "Pseudo-Avars" (who attacked the Sabirs before invading Eastern Europe), because the Rouran would have had to pass through the arch-rival Yueban state to attack the Sabirs. Gumilev L.N., "Hunnu in China", Moscow, 'Science', 1974, Ch. 9 Note 26,
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
@@kingoftheworld22 Genetic studies can be tricky when tracing down a historical peoples ethnic affiliation, Göktürk samples are also often closer to present day Mongolic peoples compared to many Turkic ethnic groups
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
@@kingoftheworld22 if you can't back your arguments don't bring them up, cope seethe repeat
@MCorpReview
@MCorpReview Жыл бұрын
Steppe by steppe 😂
@Buydaa.M
@Buydaa.M 3 ай бұрын
Damn 😅
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
The Tiele people Tegreg were the Oghuz population including Kangly-Arabachy tribal entity.
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei 8 ай бұрын
those AI art are disturbing...
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
Why?
@armorman8737
@armorman8737 Жыл бұрын
rise of Proto-Mongolic
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
medieval mongolian
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
​@@dadlight3783medieval mongolia in 13 th century
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 Ай бұрын
@@LizzWastaken-i6t no rouran language was mediaval mongolian
@DimitarFCBM
@DimitarFCBM 6 ай бұрын
Oh, yeah. Everyone is turk, according to turks. Mongols, Aztecs, Chinese, Martians, all of them - turks. LOL
@KhansDen
@KhansDen 6 ай бұрын
Unlike Bulgarians, Turks do not actually claim to have a 12.000 year old civilization, Aryan master race origin and the construction of lost Pyramids across the Balkans. We'll leave that to our lovely neighbors!
@User-c1c4y
@User-c1c4y 5 ай бұрын
Lol Turkis history starting after 1000 century 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
​@@KhansDenAlthough Turkiye has 12 000 year old temples like Göbekli tepe. I am Kazakh and believe Turks are the most ancient people and these temples prove it.
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
Lol they event turks in 12000 years ago
@LizzWastaken-i6t
@LizzWastaken-i6t Ай бұрын
​@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRClol nice joke if that true that temple oldest structian in world
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 6 ай бұрын
DON'T FORGET : TURK ARE NOT TÜRKS ! EVEN THEY INTERMARRIAGED TO EACH OTHERS . IN OUR HUN GARIAN - MAGYAR - LANGUAGE CLEARY EXPLAIN THAT . Etc...
@TheQahan
@TheQahan Жыл бұрын
The chinese pronounciations are being used wrong. for example, Qin -> Chin
@t3ngristtt
@t3ngristtt 7 ай бұрын
nice video but lacks late evidences of historic foundings. hunnu,-xiognu were confederation of all mongolic turkic kyrgiz uighurs etc and included many tribes within, but later xianbei, toba wei, rouran were all mongolic khanates. also, wei wasnt chinese but descendants of southern xianbei who moved to south and established toba wei kingdom in modern northern china. and during the times of rouran khanate turkic people were blacksmith slaves who used dig a metal from altaic mountains. it continues till the 6th cenury till the ashina turks rose to power and rebelled against rouran mongols, therefore ruled mongolian steppe from 6 till 8 centuries. and you are wrong in 1 thing here mongolic language existed even at times of xiongnu. and latest dna test proved that modern mongolians dna is 90% similliar as xiognu tomb found in these days. later foundings proved that that donghu and xiongnu are same people of different tribesmen and today's mongols are direct relatives with xiongnu
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
The Dong Hu tribes traded with the Shang Dynasty. And the Shang Dynasty was barbaric. Confucius has Mongolian DNA C2-M207 and was a descendant of the Shang Dynasty.
@muslukvanas2544
@muslukvanas2544 Жыл бұрын
It may not be true at all. Cause this step zone is really wide from Mongolia to Caucasia. Nobody could be so “quick” to pass entire steppe. And also it is against the recordings of Zacharias who once wrote Avars among the living tribes in Caucasia begining of the year 550. It was the year before Turks revolted against Rourans. This DNA results which I read with the others (there are 4 DNA results) basically says that the Pannonian Avars is geneticly coming from a DNA pool which also Rouran, Xianbei and Xiongnu comes from. And one of this works the researchers say, “the Rouran DNA which was avaliable” so they only worked on a few or even only one Rouran DNA. As we knew from written records the Rouran had so many different tribes under their rule. So it makes the “ avaliable DNA “ more suspecious.
@al018078
@al018078 Жыл бұрын
The Rouran were from European origin because of their fair traits and it is said they were ancestors of the Huns, furthermore the Dulo Dynasty |Y| has been founded by Attila.
@Nastya_07
@Nastya_07 Жыл бұрын
The Dulo clan was from the Bulgars, not the Rouran, the Rouran were ruled by Yujiulü clan, the Book of Wei traces the origins of the Rouran to the Donghu, which are the linguistic ancestors of the Mongols.
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 8 ай бұрын
You think that the Bolgar Dulo clan is european 😂😂😂😂 hahaha ok
@al018078
@al018078 8 ай бұрын
@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 It's not an opinion, but a fact.
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 8 ай бұрын
@@al018078 in your dreams it is Ancient Bolgars were Turkic not slav
@moony7144
@moony7144 6 ай бұрын
​@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283lol, modern Bulgarian hystorygraphy describes old bulgars as Iranic Indo-Europeans from central Asia. XD
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog Жыл бұрын
The Tuoba and Yuwen tribes that ruled Northern Wei, western Wei, Eastern Wei, Northern Qi, Northern Zhou were certainly Turkic origins
@eixes
@eixes Жыл бұрын
The clan of the founder of Northern Qi, known as the Gao clan, ethnically belonged to the Han Chinese, although it came under the influence of the Xianbei military aristocracy that dominated during the reign of the unified Northern Wei. Thus, Northern Qi (which appeared as a result of the division of Northern Wei into western and eastern thrones - then the Gao clan usurped power in Eastern Wei from the puppet emperor ruling there by announcing the creation of Qi) was Han Chinese. In addition, you cannot claim that xianbei (from there the ruling Wei clan of Tuoba came from, who then took the surname Yuan as part of the process of Sinification. The Yuwen clan was generally mixed and on the female line it had entirely Han Chinese) were Turks because it was never a single people, but rather a motley tribal confederation and the southern Xianbei differed from the northern ones and at that time there were no Turks as such because the Turks themselves are a mixture of different ethnic groups. Xianbei, on the other hand, clearly had distinctive features from any subsequent Turkic empires and their traditions were more similar to the nomadic Murong tribes living nearby and the tribes in Manchuria at that time, and all of them would somehow be subjected to strong Chinese influence by adopting the language and culture of the Han central plains, although they retained distinctive features for some time. The rulers of Northern Wei (Tuoba or later Yuan) called themselves the emperors of China and claimed to rule the entire Celestial Empire competing for this right with the southern dynasties, concluding mixed dynastic marriages with southern princes forced to migrate to the north as a result of civil wars in the southern dynasties, and also intermarried with the Han aristocracy remaining in the north to consolidate their position. Even if the top of Northern Wei initially differed greatly from the Han population, it was inevitably Sinized anyway, since it was possible to manage the territories of the Celestial Empire only if any nomadic leader followed Han (often Confucian) traditions and observed the Chinese (Han*) dynastic cycle. This is definitely not the Turkic Empire or even its forerunner
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog Жыл бұрын
@@eixes Turks also claimed title caliph and kayser but they weren't Arabs nor Romans. The Emperor of China was a title. Not an ethnic marker, cuz you don't have to be Chinese to be an Chinese emperor
@eixes
@eixes Жыл бұрын
​@@cudanmang_theog It's the same question as whether the British royal family is German, or whether Germany is actually Celtic (rather than Germanic) or whether Italy is actually not Romanic but Germanic or whether Napoleon was Italian and not French. There is not a clear line what is Italian and what is French, just as there is no clear “Han” Chinese without influences from northern nomadic people or southern people. And the Xianbei tribe was definitely not Turkic. The Xianbei were an ancient nomadic people who emerged on the Mongolian plateau after the Xiongnu, from the Daxingan Mountains, and belonged to the Eastern Hu ethnic group, a Mongolian-speaking group that had no connection with the Turkic languages. After all, Northern Wei was a Chinese dynasty whose majority of the population was still Han Chinese. This was because the Xianbei people at that time were completely sinicized by Emperor Xiaowen of Northern Wei. The Emperor told them to change their surnames to Han surnames, wear clothes like Han Chinese, used Han Chinese letter, and even more. Even though many Xianbei aristocrats tried to resist, they were gradually becoming Chinese. Finally, they became so Chinese that they completely lost all their original Xianbei identity. Hundreds of years of governing northern part of China turned them all Chinese
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog Жыл бұрын
​@@eixes hmm there is no objection to the xienbei being turkic, there might be mongolic elements among them as well since early nomads are not homogeneous. And lemme tell you what you don't know or they never teach you about is that ancient Chinese, the Shang dynasty were black African Hamitic race until the albino invaders that made china white like we have today
@eixes
@eixes Жыл бұрын
@@cudanmang_theog ha-ha-ha, everyone has long known that the so-called Shang dynasty originated after the Finno-Korean hyperwar, when the Shans, they are also Huaxia slaves, rebelled against their oppressors Koreans and together with the Finns overthrew them. But the Egyptian Mediterranean empire under the command of Ramesses XII quickly intervened in the matter and the Finns were not well then. Learn history please
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
The word Avar comes from the Persian word Avare which is a vagabond or vagrant. A homeless person. Makes sense as the Avars were nomadic. Also they are Caucasian peoples NOT mongoloids. Proto-Turks originated from a mixture of Eastern Iranic Saka nomadic horsemen and Mongoloids pastoralists in Western Mongolia around 300BCE with the Xiongnu confederation. The Turk identity arose from this Iranic Mongoloid mixture to form the Gokturk empire around 600AD and spread westward into Central Asian assimilated the Western Iranic peoples. If you go back to the original Orkhon inscriptions you can see they used the term bey which was inherited from their Iranic ancestors which means Lord. This is the cognate in Old Persian baga -> Middle Persian bay. The Turkic peoples who expanded westward into Turkmenistan and assimilated the Western Iranics in the region became known as the Oghuz Turks. Turkmens themselves have over 50% Iranic DNA. Turkish people are mainly native Anatolian with average 10% Central Asian admixture (as shown in the largest Turkish DNA study published in 2021)
@louyht7
@louyht7 Жыл бұрын
Saka are not Iranic they are a mixture of East Asian and West Hunter gatherer
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
@@louyht7 Saka were Iranic. Saka is a Persian word for Northern Nomadic Iranic peoples. Breaking down Saka: Sak is a Persian verb root meaning “to roam”, the ending A sound in Saka makes it plural to mean “those that roam”. The closest living descendants are the Pamiri peoples of Tajikistan and Western China Xinjiang province. Over 2,000 inscriptions from the Saka kingdom in Tarim Basin, in what is now southern Xinjiang, China. were deciphered by Linguist H.W. Bailey and formed the Saka dictionary which he published.. He became the world's leading expert in the Khotanese dialect of the Saka language, the mediaeval Iranian language of the Kingdom of Khotan. I have the Saka dictionary book and it is clearly an Iranic language.
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
stop talking nonsense. Avarga is a giant from Mongolian. Slavic slaves also called as a giant
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
Bek was first used by the Rouran. The Rouran robbed and destroyed the Tokhars, the Ephthalites, Bactria. That's where some words came from and nothing more.
@baconsans431
@baconsans431 9 ай бұрын
Not true, Xiongnu were ancestors of Mongols. Bagatur is Mongolian word for ‘Hero’ or ‘warrior’
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 8 ай бұрын
Dude Xiong Nu Culture language all was Turkic you say bagatur is Mongolian name .We also use Bahadır as name what now ??? Chanyu means Tarkhan it's a Ruler title used by Turks too .the Name Tuman is also used today among Turks .Turks have always been more crowded than Mongolians
@User-c1c4y
@User-c1c4y 5 ай бұрын
​@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283keep dreaming Turkis history starting after 1000 century 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. So Turkish have got Asian face.
@bilguunmongol4542
@bilguunmongol4542 3 ай бұрын
​@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283We still use Darkhan. Timen is also used among mongolian language haha. Hunnu is mongolian. Turk is not kok tureg.
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 3 ай бұрын
@@bilguunmongol4542 in your dreams your ancestors are the Dong hu ,our are the Xiong Nu .the Language of the Huns were Turkic it has been proven . Despite the linguistic debate about the Xiongnu language being between Turkic, Mongolic, or Yeniseian, ancient Chinese contemporary literature demonstrated that the Xiongnu were in all likelihood, majority Turkic with some Iranian and Yeniseian elements. They likely had minority languages due to them having subjugated many other ethnic groups, but the “High Language” was likely Turkic, or perhaps even Proto-Turkic itself. For example, the Book of Wei records in 554, “Gaoche, apparently, are the remaining branch of the ancient Chidi. Originally they were called "Dili", in the north they are called "Chile", and in China - "Gaoche Dinglings". Their language is generally similar to the Xiongnu, but sometimes there are small differences.” “Chile”, or “Tiele” as they were called, is in fact an attempt to transcribe the Old Turkic word “Tegreg”, meaning “High Carts”, into Middle Chinese. The word “Gaoche (高車)” is a translation of the name’s meaning “high carts” in Chinese. Chinese sources record that there were nine tribes of Tiele, referred to as “铁勒九姓”. The Uyghur Khaganate was in fact officially referred to as the “Toquz Oghuz Budun (𐱃𐰆𐰴𐰕:𐰆𐰍𐰕:𐰉𐰆𐰑𐰣)”, meaning “Nine Oghuz Peoples”. The Gaoche and Chile are without mistake Turkic. If nearly contemporary Chinese sources claim that Old Turkic was nearly the same as Xiongnu, we can probably take their word for it. As further evidence, here are some Xiongnu words transcribed into old Chinese, showing close correspondence with Proto-Turkic: Xiongnu: ţhāŋ-rə: j - Proto-Turkic: teŋri - English: sky, Tengri Xiongnu: thāk lhāj - Proto-Turkic: taylak - English: camel Xiongnu: kēŋh-rāh - Proto-Turkic: kɨŋrak - sacrificial sword, knife The list goes on and on. It is still noteworthy though that Xiongnu seemed to borrow much vocabulary from an unknown Iranian language, as well as Yeniseian. This is reasonable, since the Steppes to the west of the Xiongnu was inhabited primarily by Scythians, a nomadic Iranian group. For example, the name of the famous Modun Chanyu was likely pronounced baghtur in Xiongnu due to a b > m shift and final r > n shift from Old Chinese to Eastern Han Chinese, as well as a lost of final k in the first syllable from Middle Chinese to Mandarin. For example, in Middle Chinese, the title for steppe heroes, baghatur, which is related to Modun’s name, was written as 莫賀咄, pronounced Moheduo in modern Mandarin. The change is thus evident. Anyway, the first component bagh seemed to be derived from the Iranian word for god. It is possible that the “small differences” mentioned in the Book of Wei are a result of later Turkic peoples being less Iranicised than the Xiongnu.
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 What are you talking about? Bagatur comes from the Mongolian word Magtaal (praise). At first it was Magadur. I don't even need to prove it. Tuvans and Altai people still use it as Maadyr. At that time, the word Tarkhan comes from the word Darkhan, which means from the Mongolian verb Daraha (to press, to suppress). Darga is the title of the Hu tribes (Xiongnu). The Dun-Hu had trade relations with the Shang dynasty. And, the Xianbei were known since the time of Cheng-Wang (1046 BC). The Hu tribes appeared from the refugees Hu, Rong, Loufan (also a Hu tribe). These Hu tribes fled north from Ordos, Inner Mongolia because of General Meng Tian. Also, most of the graves of the usual Hu settlement were from South Manchuria. This was quite reasonably proven by the best archaeologist on Dun-Hu, Hu Minyaev, who was ahead of his time.
@HidayatHussain-j2f
@HidayatHussain-j2f 5 ай бұрын
These are Afghans ,,, and thiere blood mix with there local people,,, there name ,, languages match with East Iranian languages pashto,,,
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
Fairy tales
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Жыл бұрын
Ashina betrayers🤣 a hand of Chin-Mochin.
@chamchoilakpet7926
@chamchoilakpet7926 6 ай бұрын
ขอบคุณมากค่ะ รับชมจากThailand ฉันมีความสนใจชนเผ่าโหรหรั่นมานานมากแล้ว ได้ชมสารคดีนี้เยี่ยมยอดมากเชียวค่ะ
@timoteo8024
@timoteo8024 Жыл бұрын
Too bad they are not accurately portrayed, what's new........
@timoteo8024
@timoteo8024 Жыл бұрын
Depicted actually. Anyway, cheers
@경천정
@경천정 5 ай бұрын
Avar originally is Yuyoun 柔然 유연 n they r one of 12 Korean Gojosun Alliance states known in Korea as 단군 12 연방 cuz they r originally Korean Gojosun breed people n spread out to the other parts of Eurasian continent at different period of time n also eventually got mixed in blood w/ people around them during the course of the history as most ancient Korean breed nomads do. The rest of 12 Korean Gojosun Alliance nations include Rouran 樓蘭 루란 Tartar 撻檀 달단 Buryat 부리얏트 Kimak 키막 Kipchak 킵챡 Masaket 마사케트 Sarmat 사르마트 Xianbi 선비족 Ilkh un 一群國 일쿤 Kumick 쿠믹 Geckhun 겍쿤 alias Kirghiz 키르키즈 Oghuz 오구즈 alias Okser 옥저 which derived the Ohotsk sea as that Sea at the Russian Far East right by the Kamchatka peninsula at the North Pacific Sea etc cuz they r all from Korean Gojosun 古朝鮮 고조선 n spread out to other parts of Eurasian continent as nomads should since they have to constantly look for good pasture land for their animals. However they share many common cultures w/ ancient Gojosun Korean breed nomadic nation for instance their round white felt composed nomadic dwelling tent called as Ger or Yurt, all having almost same nomadic culture for their food n costume, common Tengrism as their long period down faith, calling their ruler as Takrigodo Sunwoo or Khagan 탁리고도 선우 or 카간 etc just like Gojosun n later appearing ancient Korean breed Huns; Takri or Tangri 탁리 means God or Heaven whereas Godo means son hence the word means Son of God as their ruler. For instance the name of present Chinese Turkistan called Taklamakan came from Korean Gojosun in which Takla means God or Heaven whereas Makan or Makhan means Horse Khan in which ma means horse n Khan means ruler cuz at then nomads considered horse as their most precious asset. Ancient Korean Gojosun had three rulers to rule their vast territory just like later appearing Huns thus u can see that they share same culture between them cuz they were originally same breed of people; the Jinkhan meaning Dragon Khan at the center while Makhan n Burkhan supported him as supporting khans on both of his sides n they all r generally blood related. By the way that Burkhan means wolf Khan cuz ancient Koream nomads considered wolf as devine animal just like Buryats in northern Mongolia meaning wolf tribe, Burkhan Kandun where Genghis Khan was born n Burkhan means Wolf Khan n Kandun means mountain range thus meaning wolf khan mountain range located in eastern Mongolia, Bulgaria means nation of wolf tribe, Lake Buir in Mongolia means wolf lake etc. That's why some rekhowned Korean historian consider those Etruscan who found Roman Empire n had legend of wolves as their parents who raised them could be blood related to ancient Korean Gojosun people. U all got to consider a fact that there r many countries in Europe who r blood related to ancient Korean Gojosun including those Huns who had Korean Ondol culture meaning floor heating system culture. That is why Romans had public bath system utilizing Korean Ondol floor heating system which those Romans called Hypercoast. Besides we ancient Korean Gojosun started bronze civilization n later it propagted to the west to other civilization in Europe like Finland n Estonia cuz we believe they r blood related to us even though their appearnce completely changed to Caucasoid feature like many other ancient Korean Gojosun derivatives in the Eurasian continent including those mighty Saxon warriors n their Saxon royalties n knight class aristocrats during European feudalism cuz those Huns r from ancient Korean Gojosun breed Sukxin 肅愼族 숙신족 Hunnic race just like those great Basque pepole living in the Spanish French border region cuz we can clearly tell that their culture n language clearly reflect the culture of ancient Korean Gojosun n their predecessor empire called Sinsibaedalgook 神市倍達國 신시배달국 meaning nation of God cities n heroes which lasted from 39th century BC to 24th century BC about when that ancient Korean Gojosun Empire had been found, just like that Mongolian capital city of Ulanbaatar meaning City of Heroes in which baatar means hero in Korean Altaic language. Believe or not ancient Korean people unlike those superstitious n devil worshipping Chinese n Japanese called themselves as 天孫 천손 meaning Breed of God or simply Decsendants of God. Perhaps that's why those Khazarian had no difficulty in accepting Judaim as their creed cuz they must find something common to their long ancient faith of very ethnocentric Chunsonism 天孫思想 천손사상 basically meaning chosen descendant people of God from ancient times cuz they must have been very proud on their repetitive ancient achievement cuz usually someone promonent in that family started to branch out from their original family group line or try to distinguish themselves from other people living around them. However in case w/ ancient Korean they must have worshipped God most genuinely from their racial birth era. Hence those Khazarian who were in fact ancient Gojosun Korean breed had such devout faith to choose a faith which is much more close to their ancestral Chunsonism faith rather than Islam nor Orhtodox faith after such long painful consideration cuz it just is not that easy to follow such most ethnocentric n most racially discriminative faith n such very demading faith like Judaism unless they found something common from those Jewish Rabbies or Levies. However only the holiest mightiest Noblest n Highest God knows the fact. Anyway all these facts have been proven by many reknowned European historians that ancient Gojosun Korean propagated bronze age culture to the west to other civilization in the Eurasian continent cuz they started the Bronze age culture. Anyway hence u can clearly see that those nomads originally called their rulrer as Son of God meaning 天子 천자 before any Chinese called their emperor as son of god 天子 천자 cuz ancient Korean people called Dongyi 東夷 동이 meaning people of eastern root w/ powertful bow started Chinese civilization n history by founding Shang dynasty 上 상나라 in the present Chinese mainland. However all these fact have been hidden n even got destroyed by those Japanese during the Japanese colonial era of Korea by twisting n fabricating Korean history such a way that Korean r born slave race n ancient Korea had been ruled by both Chinese n Japanese when there weren't any Japanese nor Chinese around them cuz we ancient Korean started both Chinese n Japanese history n civilization. Such vile Japanese all fabricated history of Korea which r now called as Japanese colonial history of Korea 植民史學 식민사학 to induce maximum inferiority complex to those proud Korean subject to govern them easier n at the same time those ever fraudulent Japanese primates tried to create Nazi Germany type Japanese Aryan all Walt Disney level bogus fantasy tale as their history that their emperor descended directly from heaven 10,000 years ago when in fact those successive Japanese emperors confessed again n again that they r none other than Korean Baikje Empire breed people when they had to run away from Korean Peninsula in mass exodus when that mighty maritime Baikje Empire lost war to those combined force of Korean Shilla n Chinese Tang dynasty force. However that Korean Shilla state immediately made an alliance w/ Tibetans located in the west of that Chinese Tang dyanasty n destroyed n conquered that Chinese Tang Empire. Besides traditionally n historically Korean people had much more professional n outstanding usage of those Chinese characters cuz ancient Korean people invented what is called bone inscribed letter 甲骨文字 갑골문자 during Shang dynasty in Chinese mainland which eventually became modern day Chinese character called 漢字 한자. However that Park Junghi, that assasinated president of former Korea who has been praised for the rapid development Korean Economy n also a former Japanese military officer during the second world war n a famous lacky of then Japanese government got bribed by those sneaky tracherous n ever pure evil Japanese maggot government in 1965 when the first nomalization meeting was held due to the strong urge from the US government that he got bribed by the Japanese government w/ the Japanese direction of stop teaching Chinese character to Korean students so that they'll never get to understand all those ancient Korean chronicles written in Chinese characters that they'll never get to know true proud dynamic n global conquerors ancient Korean history so that these lunatic Japanese think they could colonize Korea again someday cuz Korean people never get to know real true proud dynamic global conquering great proud Korean history but only get to learn all those Japanese fraud historian created all those belittled fabricated twisted fiction of Korean history n also all those created cartoon level hundoshi loincloth wearing savage lowlife Japanese' proud Aryan history so that those silly Japanese frauds thought that those Korean would rather want to become those great Japanese Nazi Aryan joker than Korean.
@bilguunmongol4542
@bilguunmongol4542 3 ай бұрын
Bull shittt haha. Koreans are chinese haha
@dadlight3783
@dadlight3783 3 ай бұрын
Koreans were never warriors. And, the elite of the state of Koguryo were the Mongols of the Xianbei
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 3 ай бұрын
Interesting.
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