I don’t think it’s working either but digital foundry says it’s working fine. I’m really confused lol
@alex12124566 ай бұрын
@@GamingTech-KZbinI think maybe it works for minor drops but some of the more big drops like to 54 or 52 might be traversal stutter. Like some parts of the world will have an area that you feel it a lot and maybe it’s because it’s transition from one section to another in the background continuously. Some areas seem perfectly smooth and look good. Some of the areas with drops don’t even have much foliage or object density. It’s just odd
@cheese1866 ай бұрын
@@alex1212456 they also said that it worked with cyberpunk, but on my XSX and 120hz VRR TV it absolutely doesn't work...
@Adnanj6 ай бұрын
I think this video has nailed my issue with the game. Based on the Digital Foundry video and your video, it doesn't look like the frame rate goes below 48 FPS all that often in "Performance" mode, but I have been noticing extremely frequent judders when playing the game on my 120hz VRR display. Looks like the VRR is straight-up broken in the game.
@jonaslarsson17616 ай бұрын
I dont thi k they have tested vrr in the game. They assumed that it worked as it usually does. They never sqy explicitly in their video that it works @@alex1212456
@joeydirt4206 ай бұрын
Game is so fun to play. Great value for your money. Can you answer one question, Who do any of these comparisons and complaints matter?
@sylenzZ-806 ай бұрын
Ein ganz wichtiges Video, danke Markus! Ich kann nur hoffen, dass Team Ninja sich diesem momentanen technischen Scherbenhaufen annimmt! VRR auf meinem LG C3 greift überhaupt nicht, scheint ein Frametime Problem oder eine Art von Bug zu sein.
@alex12124566 ай бұрын
Vrr not working for me but I think the graphics are pretty good overall. It’s only if you put it next to Tsushima it looks mediocre. But what game dosnt look mediocre next to Tsushima? I don’t expect cutting edge from team ninja. On a side note I think this game would benefit from 40fps quality mode
@GamingTech-YouTube6 ай бұрын
A 40FPS Mode would be great
@paulocamoes68166 ай бұрын
Almost all games coming out currently would highly benefit from a 40fps mode. It's a shame more developers are not betting on that.
@Chqrliik6 ай бұрын
TLOU, TLOU2, RDR2, Ratchet and Clank, all Spiderman games, GoW 1 & 2... Plenty of games do look at least as good as Tsushima. This one looks awful, indeed
@AP-mk8cv6 ай бұрын
A 60 fps with 2k should be normal
@SeifSoudani6 ай бұрын
Yes I did experience the same stutters in Performance mode with VRR activated and asked myself the same question... The only answer I can find for now is that, as DF had mentioned in the past, VRR is oftentimes not enough to smooth out dips in the lowest range (sub 60 fps) especially when frame times of a given game are inherently incorrectly paced. I did experience a similar situation in Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
@ArthurKlucznik6 ай бұрын
problem is that the dynamic resolution is not dropping quick and far enough to stay above 48fps. We need a patch to make the DSR more aggressive
@alex12124566 ай бұрын
I mean Woudnt vrr be good in that situation tho
@sergz82416 ай бұрын
VRR Works but digital foundry said its frametime / ms goes to sometimes to 200-300 ms which results in stutterin. The game simply isnt optimized but VRR working as it supposed to be
@EldenBorn6 ай бұрын
Why do Fromsoftware, Team Ninja, Square Enix and Capcom hate good performance ?
@sergz82416 ай бұрын
Lack of skills, like most Japanese developers
@esmolol40916 ай бұрын
Because it costs time to make it run perfectly, and they only care about shipping as much trash as possible in the shortest amount of time.
@joshuam49936 ай бұрын
Terrible engines and optimization
@JokerJay19906 ай бұрын
I hope you will make an update video if this gets fixed. I'm holding off until then. Great video!
@Phoenix-zm5gv6 ай бұрын
Markus can you make a video of your LG G2 settings like you did with LG CX. Would be really nice.
@ps5gametest6 ай бұрын
Try to turn off VRR entirely it may help for performance mode.Because in some games on PS5 , VRR not removes statters but add some more
@bzinirb69866 ай бұрын
They need a good update then its perfect. The game is very very good
@liukaosborne6 ай бұрын
Fair video, I have an LG Cs, just got to Edo and walking through the temple garden I see game optimiser actually drop 59 - 54 in performance mode. I tried forcing vrr off and on and it definitely does "something" but both still choppy turning camera. Game usually runs OK at I'd say 57-59. They made a great game but I really hope they keep releasing performance patches. Patch 1.002 made a clear improvement to Performance mode. Crispy solid 60 would be so nice. Its weird that the game is not yet featured on Team Ninjas website. I don't understand why give us graphics and especially Ray tracing modes? Just pick one and make it polished. Cheers.
@matthewcullen34866 ай бұрын
It's not that vrr is not working it's that the engine is targeted around 30/60 frame intervals like the last games using this engine. Which means that it creates camera stutter if you fall outside of a fps interval. Other games have this behaviour such as the recent enshrouded.
@XiLock_Alotx6 ай бұрын
One thing is for certain…Rise of Ronin peforms FAR BETTER then Dragons Dogma 2…Smdh@capcom
@mmmccir50636 ай бұрын
and it looks 10 times worse. DD runs in +- 4K with RT and with much higher graphics quality.
@Cruxis_Angel6 ай бұрын
Disgusting how none of the reviews mentioned the glaring performance issues plaguing that game. No game is a 9 or 10 running like that
@intellectic91556 ай бұрын
@@mmmccir5063They're both shit. And if you purchased either at full price, YOU are the problem.
@funkeeper86736 ай бұрын
At least Ronin let you disabling motion blur,dof and all that bs.
@ctestdummy836 ай бұрын
Actually it dosent stutter on xbox with 40-60 vrr and lfc. It also looks beautiful unlike this game
@neals63486 ай бұрын
Had no issues forcing VRR in RoTR. Using a 77" A80J and game has been fine in most all modes w VRR (when within the window, Performance Mode is ideal atm)
@jarko89943 ай бұрын
Is now VRR maybe repaird?
@ardasevmis75836 ай бұрын
Japanese devs hate good framepacing with their 30 fps locks. Dragon’s dogma 2 has the same problem currently with their quality mode
@astreakaito56256 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the PC version.. I love team ninja's games, but they aren't very good at graphic stuff. Nioh 2 on PC works just fine with VRR at least, but I noticed it didn't support arbitrary fixed refresh rates which was a problem for me as I much prefer BFI over VRR, and 60fps vsync'd had stutter issues but 120fps vsync didn't, so I played that whole game at 120fps with extreme upscaling last year, lol Still Ronin looks beautiful on your TV! HDR truly fix the game's bad contrast and colors in SDR. Everyone is trashing Ronin for the graphics yet nobody but you seem to be playing in HDR.
@joeydirt4206 ай бұрын
“Everyones trashing ronin for the graphics” youtubers make up 0.01% of gamers. Everyone playing the game is loving it. and who turns hdr off? That shits on automatic.
@astreakaito56256 ай бұрын
@@joeydirt420 I know And HDR is hardly automatic on PC, on consoles I dunno but nobody is talking about HDR gaming outside of niche circles like this channel. It's no wonder when it only looks right half of the time.
@WardedPredator6 ай бұрын
Strange because I stried to play Nioh 2 with VRR on PC and it straight up didn't work using a 4080 on a LG C3 also tried on a QN85c and no matter what settings it just didn't work.
@AnimeUniverseDE6 ай бұрын
The problem is, Team Ninja games only look good at 30, 60 and 120. If you drop any frames you get stutter because the camera is not designed to do that. You can't lock those games at arbitrary framerates. I have a 4080 and Wo Long drops some frames at 120fps due to the effects... And it feels horrible
@eruannster6 ай бұрын
I don't have Rise of Ronin, so I can't comment on the specifics here, but if I may speculate for a moment: Could it be that the game has severe stutters for other reasons (such as the game slamming the CPU for a brief second, or something else) that the game actually stops and therefore stutters? If the console has to literally wait for something, VRR will do nothing to smooth out those stutters.
@Krampus6-1-66 ай бұрын
I don't think it looks that bad. Of course the lighting is flat but I like the artdesign alot.
@mayc81606 ай бұрын
same problem with a samsung q70T although on the TV panel put VRR any mini-drop below 60 fps, immediately causes a perception of stuttering.
@jonaslarsson17616 ай бұрын
If the drops are cpu related VRR wont save you. The frame time spikes will cause stutter regardless. Same issue in some areas in cyberpunk as well as in jedi survivor
@ctestdummy836 ай бұрын
Do you mean traversal stutter?
@TheSnakeIsSolid16 ай бұрын
Your top 3 best games in the last decade?
@JokerJay19906 ай бұрын
I have an Oled LG CX, and the stuttering is killing it for me, VRR is on. Hopefully, they will fix this with an update patch.
@Gamingmontel6 ай бұрын
vrr with rayracing mode frame rate unlocked is smooth but the graphics mode with vrr is not smooth when frame rates are unlocked.
@Tito_bless6 ай бұрын
I would have uncapped frame rate mode any day! Then a 30 locked fps. I hope they patch it soon
@bzinirb69866 ай бұрын
Vrr is not working... im playin with quality mode it looks better. Maybe after some patches for performance mode
@catalinsimionescu3495Ай бұрын
And as of today still i am hoping for a performance patch for this game ....
@divinitymode93646 ай бұрын
Love the game but I find the performance issues weird (playing on a C9). VRR operates at the display end not the game end, no? A game doesn’t have to ‘support’ VRR. Maybe someone can explain.
@leifaregis25546 ай бұрын
Sir what is your game settings on this game CX or Qn90 thanks.
@apostolos87346 ай бұрын
The game certainly doesn't look good enough for how bad the performance is. GOT runs at a solid 60 fps while having beautiful landscapes and an even larger seamless open world.
@nukenin54576 ай бұрын
Manually locking the ps5 to 1440p plus graphics mode with uncapped frame rate mode is near perfect for me.
@maciekprokop37806 ай бұрын
It doesnt mean game will be in 1440p 😂 its just for monitor
@nukenin54576 ай бұрын
@@maciekprokop3780 yes but its native, the game in quality mode hits the 1440p so makes no sense to run it upscaled 4k. And maybe its my monitor but it feels better as well. Try buying a high end monitor then we talk about it buddy
@maciekprokop37806 ай бұрын
@@nukenin5457 I have 4k oled tv
@ps5gametest6 ай бұрын
Some games on PS5 have statter problem in 30fps mode if VRR is enabled. You should turn it off manualy in console options.
@benw30296 ай бұрын
Wondering what the hell the “minor drops but VRR smooths it out so you can’t tell” people are talking about. It’s noticeable as fuck and constant
@divinitymode93646 ай бұрын
Getting plenty of stuttering on my C9. It’s weird as I thought VRR works 60-48hz whether it’s supported by the game or not. Mystery.
@mayc81606 ай бұрын
I have definitely stopped playing until they fix the problem. This combat needs a lot of fluidity the experience when it loses 60 fps, even with VRR, is bad. It affects the perception, fluidity and pace of the combat a lot. I don't think it's a problem of VRR not working as much as it is that the frame time is very bad.
@grant666uk6 ай бұрын
Running it on a lg cx65 and its definitely not workiing. The gane stutters non stop. Especially in the pleasure zone. Feels sub 30.
@Bibfive56 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your video as always 😎👏 I wanted to buy this game but when I saw your video I understood it was better to wait for a VRR fix ! Even in performance mode this is bad… my S95B is not going to like it 😅
@berserkguts62126 ай бұрын
Resolution mode in this game will shine on the ps5 pro.
@liukaosborne6 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@gangs08466 ай бұрын
Thank you
@jb1u236 ай бұрын
Turn off HDR and use HLG if your tv has it. On Rt mode it feels fine. Everyone complaining avout visuals but havent hears anyone dive into gameplay details hmmm sounds like yall play for 20 minutes to look at options and go back to fortnite
@RoyalBoyle786 ай бұрын
VRR doesn't work in GOW RR either, go test it you will see.
@JumpRopeLift6 ай бұрын
I no longer use vrr
@GamingTech-YouTube6 ай бұрын
Why is that?
@JumpRopeLift6 ай бұрын
@@GamingTech-KZbin Gamma shift
@WardedPredator6 ай бұрын
@@JumpRopeLift the flicker/pulsing in dark scenes?
@JumpRopeLift6 ай бұрын
@@WardedPredator Yes, games like Lies of P look horrendous with flicker during normal gameplay. I prefer using Game Motion Plus on the Samsung S95C and haven’t looked back from 60Hz.
@WardedPredator6 ай бұрын
@@JumpRopeLift yep I noticed it in a lot of games especially Alan wake 2 using a LG C3.
@EldenBorn6 ай бұрын
They should just give us 40 fps mode how hard can it be?
@leifaregis25546 ай бұрын
Mines sometimes experience stuttering when you about to start any missions but only sometimes im using performance mode. in my qn90 only some flickering in mud area .but the the game is fun although the story is not organized a bit.
@daninadine6866 ай бұрын
The game is awesome, it runs very fluid.
@sylenzZ-806 ай бұрын
Yeah, for sure 💯😉
@condossis13776 ай бұрын
I have a G1 and can tell you that the stuttering on mine is shocking the Graphics are deplorable so I returned the game
@BrxGhost6 ай бұрын
Model TV ????
@polly_25266 ай бұрын
team ninja games dont work with vrr since nioh, i dont think they ever fix it
@polly_25266 ай бұрын
Both on the console and pc from my previous test
@WardedPredator6 ай бұрын
I couldn't get VRR working on Nioh 2 on PC and I tried 2 separate VRR displays.
@polly_25266 ай бұрын
@@WardedPredator Yeah, it seems their engine just doesnt work with VRR, i tested WoLong last year and it still doesnt work
@WardedPredator6 ай бұрын
@@polly_2526 yep thats what I'd assume although there is another user in the comments saying Nioh 2 on PC works fine with VRR.
@AnimeUniverseDE6 ай бұрын
@@polly_2526 Not even on PC, which is pretty weird
@YE-dg5uu6 ай бұрын
Sony x90j. VRR not working in this game.
@milk67656 ай бұрын
This is why Sony should have never came out with this half-baked solution where you have to rely on devs to utilize it
@matjakobs86126 ай бұрын
Vrr not working because of the framepacing
@endrioesci6 ай бұрын
which tv is this?
@GamingTech-YouTube6 ай бұрын
LG G2
@TheSalu7816 ай бұрын
Vrr not working for me.
@shambler73596 ай бұрын
The game is looking pretty, thought it was a complete dumpster fire
@IntelligentProbe6 ай бұрын
Nope, not for me... LG 48CX
@IntelligentProbe6 ай бұрын
Oh and for the record I'm LOVING the game... hooked as hell on it.
@Myrmidons6 ай бұрын
This game if didn't have this awesome combat would be doomed. Graphics ans hardware are not good to pay £70. I would pay £40-£45 max.
@mikeG300136 ай бұрын
Ya it's stuttering for me also, shame
@beyondearth64186 ай бұрын
Nope, not working since I haven't bought the game 🤣