Harvard Chooses Personality, Not Just Scores

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@RishabJainK 9 ай бұрын

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@Dharma_and_Ahimsa 2 ай бұрын

Man I think your comments were a bit demeaning lol

@A3142 9 ай бұрын

It is so sad that people, not all, volunteering just to put something on their application, it is no longer for the sake of helping people. I believe most of them will not be continuing doing volunteering in the future due to this

@po6417 9 ай бұрын

exactly

@VSM101 8 ай бұрын

Havard the Hindupobic biggoted school no thanks

@tylerjohnson4 2 ай бұрын

Most people would rather get a job if their going to do work, and it makes sense in this economy

@GrifGrey 9 ай бұрын

man, after consuming all this "how to get into your dream college" content. i just dont care anymore im just gonna study what i want to study, and see where it gets me.

@RishabJainK 9 ай бұрын

W mindset, supported on this channel 💪

@galacticlava1475 9 ай бұрын

Tbh, I feel the same way. It’s really exhausting just stressing through all of these conflicting videos about collage. That’s definitely the right mindset to have.

@sethupathys641 9 ай бұрын

High school senior here. Seriously dude, when I was writing my essays, I was wondering what the hell I was doing with my life. I should have just done what I wanted to do. That would have been sufficient to get me into a good school.

@anna-tn8mg 9 ай бұрын

Yes, It looks like universities admit zombies only who prepare for admission this way: volunteering - check, scouts - check, hugging babbling- check, loving monsters - check, etc. Sorry, this is utter distortion of the role of academia. My alma mater is medieval and I was interested in the history of universities for a while (privately not academically). And yes, personally, I resent the approach - one can be a monster, but as long as one drops his dirty underwear to his victims - for self-promotion, self-gratification and tax purposes, one is wonderful. I am pretty sure that the focus should be on ethical life in general and academic seriousness and not on some required extracurricular self-serving poses. dr anna

@narenmanikandan4261 8 ай бұрын

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@shahzadkhosravi195 4 ай бұрын

He's 100% playing the long game with her

@ryanshulman201 9 ай бұрын

as a caltech student, I have to disagree what you guys said about it being easier to get into Caltech than Harvard and that the STEM kids at Harvard have done more impressive research than at Caltech. Definitely true that you need some leadership/entrepreneurial type ECs to get into Harvard, Stanford, etc, which Caltech cares about far less, but in my experience, Caltech kids have done some very impressive research. IMO qualifying kids tend to go to MIT more often, but the top math research kids tend to pick Caltech. edit: i should mention a lot of the top math research kids pick Princeton too edit 2: i have to agree with you that Harvard's life sciences research is top-notch, probably better than caltech

@sean2000-7 9 ай бұрын

This is hella off topic but what kinds of things did you do in high school to get in?

@po6417 9 ай бұрын

copium lowkey

@ryanshulman201 9 ай бұрын

@@po6417 fair, i guess. i did only apply to caltech (early), so i don't know if I would have gotten into those other schools)

@GooseCee 9 ай бұрын

You guys seem to put Harvard on such a pedestal that it blinds your sense of objectivity and makes you unfairly belittle Cal Tech. You make it seem like Cal Tech is easy to get into when the reality is that 1) Cal Tech has lower acceptance rates than Harvard 2) Harvard gives a HUGE advantage to athletes, donors, or legacy students (around 30% of it's population) while Cal Tech doesn't care about those unfair advantages.

@RishabJainK 8 ай бұрын

I don’t think our intention was to belittle Caltech. I think the overall point was that the math students attending Harvard and MIT seem to have higher prestige & more competitive awards such as USAJMO, MOP, IMO, etc. compared to the top award of an AIME qualification. Shriya, the person who helped me with this video, put her ISEF 1st Place Awards on her honors list alongside RSI and other science awards - and listed AIME in the additional information. This, along with knowledge of our own classmates and friends who were accepted to Harvard and MIT vs Caltech led us to our conclusion. It’s well known that the majority of International Math Olympiad winners go to MIT - and I think that leaves students with (slightly) lower awards attending Caltech and other institutions (including Harvard). This is possibly why Caltech has a lower acceptance rate-because around 50% of its admit-tees decide not to go. Furthermore, Harvard has a huge econ & gov focus, which result in skewed statistics. Overall, there was no intention in belittling Caltech.

@eecsbanker 8 ай бұрын

The proof of this elitist attitude they have is in the 1000x comment made. Like for real, what a bunch of bs. Also, what wtf do you mean caliber of Caltech students is less than MIT and Harvard. Like for real??!

@ClaraKim-kp1wu 8 ай бұрын

@@eecsbankerobviously it's possible to get lucky like you did without crazy awards, but they are talking about things that guarantee admission. Also, you might want to wait until admissions day before being so confident with a likely letter.

@alyrris 2 ай бұрын

Admitted students not going is represented by the enrollment rate, not the acceptance rate.

@jinniroe5002 9 ай бұрын

Where does the average kid get to do research and publish papers? Very few.

@frankfeng936 8 ай бұрын

Profiling is an interest mostly of outsiders. Insiders are always disinterested in being profiled.

@pranavangadi456 8 ай бұрын

the 1000x comment was bs, other than that overall p good advice. Also, I think Rishab gave way better advice than the person to the left (edit: Shriya).

@NeuroimagingClara 9 ай бұрын

Hey everyone! Good luck to everyone with science fair season! (mine is in 4 days!!!!)

@mintylemon66 7 ай бұрын

cool how did it go? (i just saw you from discord!)

@maxtremolo4220 4 ай бұрын

Would like to know what high school Shriya went to. A lot of ISEF winners were lucky enough to have strong committed mentors, access to programs through important, often times familial, connections, etc… Not saying that Shriya did but when there is extraordinary achievement, usually there is quite a bit of social capital underlying those achievements. Rarely will a high school student achievement top 1% performance without access to mentors, teachers, professors performing at the top. IMHO, it’s pretty clear Amy didn’t have a lot of social capital. I mean, she used Khan Academy to study for the Act. I’m pretty sure her school counselor (who I’m guessing is no where near the caliber of counselors at say Phillips Andover) told her she was doing great, is amazing, and was doing everything right, etc…I’m pretty sure it never occurred to Amy to cold email professors for potential mentorship, but even if she did, there’s no telling that one would graciously take her under their wing.

@RishabJainK 4 ай бұрын

Shriya went to Plano East Senior High. None of her family is in science research. Her parents are immigrants and she does not have any older siblings. She started her research at a local community college just by reaching out via cold email. She says her public school counselor did not help at all, which is true for almost all public schools (mine did nothing either). Public school counselors are usually more concerned about students not on track to graduate and thus they do not really support students interested in research. Shriya says their class size of 1400 students was so large that she only talked to her counselor once or twice. Shriya says she studied for the SAT using practice reading and writing passages from online exams and books from the library. She says she did not study for the SAT math. Overall, I would say it’s presumptuous to say that a lot of ISEF winners have familial connections when most are passionate students in my experience. The reason they do so well is because they are self motivated and genuinely interested in their topic rather than doing things for college app purposes.

@maxtremolo4220 4 ай бұрын

@@RishabJainK Sorry if my previous post suggested that Shriya's accomplishments (which are clearly impressive) were somehow not from her own hard work, grit and brilliance (all of which she certainly has). You need those qualities, but 99 % of the time, you need far more than that. The point of my post was that Amy almost certainly had the drive and the brains to accomplish what you and Shriya accomplished . The difference is that she went to a public school in which (according to her elsewhere) there were, for example, not science fair opportunities, no opportunity to get a sponsor necessary to enter ISEF, no USPHO, not much of a computer science, hacker, coding, building app culture other than an AP Comp class, etc.. I get the impression the best her public school offered was AP Calc BC and other traditional science AP classes, which is kinda a dime a dozen these days, but she didn't know it then) . You and Shriya had the smart idea to reach out to professors to get the mentorship you guys absolutely needed. No one told Amy that, nor was she able to come up with that idea on her own when she was 14, 15, 16 years old. When it comes to science research, you can't just do it on your own. You need access to a lab, a science advisor, at almost every step. Math is a little different and a lot harder to reach the IMO level (in my opinion) because at math olympiads, you need to find the right answer. There are no experiments where you can work on over the course of a year or two, where you can suggest an association of how compound A might affect process B (etc..) so in that respect, scientific research in the life sciences provides a little more flexibility and creativity at least at the high school ISEF level (in my opinion). (And yes, a lot of IMOs go to MIT cause they actively recruit these mathletes for their Putnam team) Also, I didn't mean to suggest that "a lot of ISEF winners have familial connections." A number of them certainly do and it would be interesting if a sociologist could analyze it formally. What I said was at that level, you can't do it without mentors, top teachers and professors. How you access them is from important networking (the social capital, yes, through family connections, and through programs offered through good schools whether public or private). Of course, you also need someone willing to take you in and mentor you. You are more likely to get such sponsorships if you live in a large city, much less so in smaller cities. I don't know much about Plano East Senior High but it sounds like a very good public school, something closer to a Stuyvesant than your average public school. I doubt Shriya was the first person at her high school to enter ISEF. In sum, I think your videos are great and they are doing a lot to educate kids who can't afford college consultants and are kind of stuck figuring it out for themselves. Your videos give them a great step by step instruction. This video, however, just kind struck me as "my achievements were at a much higher level than your achievements" and that's why we got in and you didn't. I'm sure you and Shriya didn't mean it that way, but honestly, it kinda gives out that vibe.

@RishabJainK 4 ай бұрын

My videos demonstrate that anyone can do science research. No one is asking you to do a Nature level discovery when you’re 14, but you can certainly build a solar panel or make an Android app. I refuse to buy into the myth perpetuated online that you need huge amounts of social capital and resources to do science. We need to be uplifting everyone, not telling them that “you can’t do this, so don’t bother trying.” Using my videos and guides, thousands of students have begun their research project journeys. I started my first science project in my kitchen using juice and sodas. I then used an old laptop worth about $100 to learn coding. I am completely self taught and had no lessons, no school teachers, and no parents who knew coding to teach me. Of course, this requires privilege to do so. I am not denying that. But saying that you need to be extraordinarily well connected or resourced is misleading. $100 is a decent sum of money. However, I’m willing to bet there are hundreds of students who have that at their disposal (or a $1000 gaming PC they use for Minecraft) who could be doing science - but think that they can’t because they don’t have the “connections” Many students just need the motivation and role model of past students who have done the same, which is why I make videos about doing science research. It’s to inspire more to do the same. Many of them have little to no resources and lack support from their schools, just like many ISEF finalists do each and every year. I want to showcase these examples and dispel the myth prevalent amongst students that only the rich can do science. I want everyone to be motivated and inspired.

@RishabJainK 4 ай бұрын

Also, I think you don’t know much about how the science fair process works. In high school, my public school did not have any teacher willing to sponsor me to the fair. I asked two teachers and both of them refused to help me as a sponsor. I had to enter on my own, which is 100% possible. That is something that requires grit, and every student can do it if they dedicate the time to do a quick Google Search online about entering their regional/state fairs. Every single county in America has a corresponding science fair OR a state science fair. These counties and state level contests send students to ISEF. Just because your school doesn’t offer support or a sponsor (mine certainly didn’t) doesn’t mean you can’t enter. My school did not even offer the AIME test until my senior year, so it’s kind of ridiculous to say that “oh your school has to offer xyz” in order for someone to do it. Self motivated people run through walls to find solutions to problems. I had a couple of friends who would go to other schools to take tests for competing. It’s the same thing with taking the SAT. The problems really only apply if you cannot afford transportation, or have familial responsibilities that prevent you from doing these things. For these students, we need structural help like financial waivers implemented or nonprofits who can do outreach.

@RishabJainK 4 ай бұрын

Also most of my science fair projects until around 11th grade were independent research projects that were not mentored. I reached out to local labs and they denied me due to my age or lack of experience. I ran through walls and did projects by myself on a $100 laptop that crashed all the time. When I started winning science fairs, then I used the prize money to buy a better computer, and used the awards to help me land better opportunities. Later in high school, I applied to MIT’s Research Science Institute program which is fully funded and I got the chance to do research at MIT. This was not because of “social capital” etc. like you claim. There are merit based programs and opportunities that I show on my channel. Once again though, if you lack transportation fees to even compete at a science fair or cannot afford a laptop etc. those problems actually inhibit people from being able to pursue their ambitions. For these students, I dedicate parts of my business’ revenue to help fund their research projects (donated over $1000 so far) and provide opportunities (for free) to them. I hope one day we can provide support to these thousands of students who lack access.

@Beck-Stein 8 ай бұрын

I think the major thing students do not realize is it’s not the school making you money it’s you. Stats have proven that schools make little to no difference.

@alishayin5267 9 ай бұрын

nah bruh i love wamy but lowk her videos making her sound so stuckup like woah "i have a debilitating health conditions and a good act score omg caltech" girl stop.

@borntouke12345 5 ай бұрын

@ezpznoob8092 9 ай бұрын

Bros is it over i only have local awards as a junior 😂 also my sci fair proj is sports science so i have doubts it will win much

@lafrost7759 8 ай бұрын

It depends on the context of your life and high school. Either way, it never hurts to try to apply to reach schools. You just gott believe in yourself, and even if you don’t get accepted, you don’t really lose anything

@ezpznoob8092 8 ай бұрын

@@lafrost7759 yea our HS doesn’t even do AP classes 😂 MIT Stanford looks awesome as shit but If I get in instate (UC) I’ll go there tho. Wayyy cheaper and closer + Berkeley/la/sd are top

@ezpznoob8092 8 ай бұрын

@t7759 yh I'll try but tbh it seems better to me to go to a UC school since they are so cheap instate. I'm probably CS major too so its super hard to get into it

@kitothekito915 5 ай бұрын

@@lafrost7759 you wasted money if you get rejected

@tylerjohnson4 2 ай бұрын

Whats wrong with sports science?

@AhmedEzzat-k 9 ай бұрын

make a video about your Harvard admission file

@saawanduvvuri5659 9 ай бұрын

BRO YOU GOT THEEE SRIYA BHAT ON HERE

@jinniroe5002 9 ай бұрын

I feel like it is really the " Luck of the draw". These students here feel like they were better in some way just because they are in and she is not. Get real. There are hundreds of thousands of applicants. You two may have gotten in because of you ethnicity only , who knows. No need to get arrogant or self important. It is not what school you go too, it is what kind of person you are and how you live your life. Good luck. People know realize these elite schools are pretty full of crap, anyway.

@ClaraKim-kp1wu 8 ай бұрын

Dude's coping hard 😂 btw as students you can see your admission file so I'm pretty sure they know why they got in

@Rorablink 3 ай бұрын

I just feel it is just your luck and their mood 😂 to accept you or not Y'all are just trying for no reason analyzing everything

@tiktokclips9009 3 ай бұрын

thanks for making me lose hope in mit and harvard👌🙏

@tylerjohnson4 2 ай бұрын

We cooked :(

@Player93pm 9 ай бұрын

First to another W Rishab Jain video🚨🚨

@Guylovesleep6802 9 ай бұрын

Great video i have a question can extracuruiclam activates make up for states?(like winning heckanothns or something along the lines) not harverds or any ivy league schools but for any college applications

@greenartSTEM_1 9 ай бұрын

Hi! Excited to watch this.

@steve-dq7hh 7 ай бұрын

So what's the plan for u both after u graduate?

@arandomperson7811 9 ай бұрын

If you are going to be doing math olympiads and that is your main award you should at least qualify for USAJMO, AIME isn't too impressive.

@DhruvaGadipathi 9 ай бұрын

Common Rishab W

@nikolaizaicev9297 8 ай бұрын

Here is a catch question for you. How come that so many smart people finish their studies at harvard business schools, and year after year, these top grads totaly bomb companies into bankrupcies? So my reccomendation to other people, if you are looking for knowledge and not some fancy schmancy name on your CV, avoid such money wasters like harvard. Go to a super cheap no-name university, and do your study there. Ignore the topics that they teach, just learn enough to pass the test. In that same time, start learning about systems thinking, systems theory, marketing, theory of constraints etc. Avoid like plaque anything published by Harvard Business Publishing press after 2000, you may thought use their books prior to 2000. Concentrate on different disciplines like Psychology, Sociology, etc. By the time you finish your no-name university with s...t grades, your level of knowledge will be about 400% above the best graduate of Harvard, and you will be able to start a successful business or enter a small start up and lead it to success, without having a 100+k debt behind your back and 0 actual knowledge.

@FraggerF 9 ай бұрын

rishab for I am a student that schools in Nigeria and here opportunities are very limited and are not as many as you see in the U.S.A. so I try to grasp as many opportunities as I can find. I really want to go to MIT and it's my dream school. Please what do you recommend for people like me going through this situation?

@jinniroe5002 9 ай бұрын

Just go to university where you live. Have a good life and be happy.

@cursive1805 9 ай бұрын

greenverse

@FraggerF 8 ай бұрын

i live in a place where our education system is poor so going to a university here will not bring out the best in me@@jinniroe5002

@junquasar5868 2 ай бұрын

Physics and chemistry: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Caltech. Pretty much same. Who cares which one you choose or get accepted. Math: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton are upper than Caltech. Engineering: depends on which field but generally MIT, Stanford, CMU (in CS) and then below are Caltech, Harvard etc. UC Berkeley is also top tier in all of the above fields but it is a public/state school so mostly lose elite students to the above schools. Maybe the exception is EECS which always has been crazy hard to get in academically. But UCB is great for graduate school in pretty much any field. Overall, if you get into any of these schools, just go wherever you want to go. You are all top students and no one will care about the difference or which one was or is harder to get into. Trust me: no employer or profs will care which of the above you went to. you are all equally highly regarded. The important thing is how hard you continued to study/work in these colleges. I have seen many many Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Caltech students/grads who lose motivation/interest and never really accomplish anything in or after college. they just make it to graduation and get a degree. they become very ordinary. not that there is anything wrong with being ordinary.