Rivian R1S Compressed SPARE Tire - Will it work??

[@littlewolfblue1389]

I've got to say, I was shocked when it went back into the same shape it was before you filled it. I figured there was no chance you were fitting it back into the trunk.

[@alonzogonzalez3062]

WOW, me too! As I was watching the video I thought for sure the tire was a “one time use only” tire. Then I read your comment and I had to stay till the end. LOL!

[@DanEdwards]

Yeah that was amazing. Seriously cool tire design.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@DanEdwards it’s not something new! German cars have had that for literally years

[@NovaResource]

Collapsible spare tires were optional on 1967 Camaros and Firebirds and used throughout the 70’s and 80’s in many GM and Chrysler vehicles.

[@christopherquinn4120]

Scott - thank u for running through the spare gauntlet for all of us who own R1Ss or have them ordered. I’ve run thru this exact scenario in my mind hoping the doughnut tire would shrink back into its original size and was fairly confident that was only happening w a rubber mallet or ratchet straps. Grt job Rivian engineers. You just saved me an hour or more pre-testing - so thank you.

[@RivianDad]

You’re welcome. Yes pretty sweet engineering I agree. Those Dutch really know how to play football and make spare tires. :)

[@chuckm260]

Thanks for putting this together! Ironically, just the other day I went through a dry run changing/using the spare tire (short of actually changing a tire) so I'll at least be familiar with the process and to confirm all pieces of the jacking equipment are present. (Small issue I've noticed with my R1S since taking delivery are a few missing pieces or equipment that doesn't work, e.g. the air hose coupler (either end) does NOT stay latched on to the nipple part on the vehicle. Apparently a common problem when I spoke to Rivian service. Ugh.) Note, the big cube piece is the jack stand base. Manual says to only use when changing the rear tires and not the front. It doesn't indicate why but thought I'd mention it here since it wasn't mentioned in the video. I'll probably carry some type of flat 10"x10" or similar size piece of wood or high density plastic and use it as a jack stand base for the front in case I'm parked on loose or uneven ground (e.g. gravel, mud, etc.). Another very important safety thing not mentioned in the video is to chock (not provided, so buy some) the tire kitty-corner from the tire you're changing, especially when changing a rear tire. The electronic brake in the R1S (probably the R1T also) only applies to the rear tires leaving the possibility of the front tires to roll when the rear of the vehicle is jacked up. Best advice I would give is to take the time to read the entire section of how to change a tire in the R1S owner's manual as there are specific times of when to change ride height along with the driving mode and other safety items. TIP: If possible, don't deflate and store the compact spare while it's still wet. The trapped moisture in the tire folds could develop mildew. :-/

[@RivianDad]

Thanks for the tips. Yeah, there's no way to do this perfectly, but I tried to do it safely as if I were out on the road. I don't normally keep chocks with me but perhaps I should. I also don't keep the ProEagle jack on board, but I did use it here. Interesting about the hose attaching issues. Hasn't been a problem for me.

[@amichaels-v3]

We appreciate all the work & energy you put into that video, very helpful.

[@RivianDad]

Thanks!

[@jjmarogil]

just a point to make that you likely know already. the Jack point do not need a tool to remove. You can simply push in on the back side and the open edge will pop down allowing you to take it off. No tool required.

[@gatorfanboy]

Cool! Thanks for the full “lifecycle” of the spare use.

[@Macedonia56]

Thank you for demonstrating the whole process of installing the spare tire. I am not even sure if I have one but will check in the am. Thanks again!

[@dada373678229]

wow watching it inflating and deflating is the coolest thing ever

[@opnwideplease]

Scott, I have a PITA request...could you remove the full size 20" spare out of your T, remove the bin and compact spare from the S, (lay a blanket or tarp) and see if one could vertically and upright set the full size spare down into the recess so the wheel faces the back, and attach a ratchet strap up and over the top of the tire to the 2 tie-downs? Some critical off-roading info I need for the S. Thanks! Maybe post a photo or video if so.

[@RivianDad]

Sure. That's a very particular description! do you mean put the full size T spare in the R1S back compartment?

[@opnwideplease]

@@RivianDad yes see if it will sit upright, with maybe the bottom 1/4 of the wheel sitting down in the recess. Not sure how wide the recess is vs the width of the 20” AT. (Just like a spare would ride on the back of a Jeep but inside).

[@DavidLeee]

+1 to test this

[@josilver]

I really wish the R1S had a full-size spare. If you can take the spare from your R1T and see if you can find a good way to transport it in the R1S, I think a lot of people would really appreciate it. Great video, cheers!

[@dwarfsbelly4652]

Thanks Rivian Dad, For all of your input and first hand knowledge of both the R1t as well as the R1s. I am due to receive my R1s early next year, and the spare tire video was absolutely useful as always your amazing keep up the awesome . By the way love how the family is totally together on the Rivian journey ❤️ Cheers Dwayne

[@RivianDad]

Thanks Dwane! Keep us posted when you get it. You’ll love it.

[@naazimmaredia796]

Thank you for posting this! I finally get my spare installed on the 14th.

[@GregGrajek]

Question. might you know the size of the bolt to secure the spare ie 3/8 10mm etc.. I have the tire and jack just need to secureit in place

[@RichardSalmore]

Great Rivian info! Rivian should offer a pneumatic jack option.

[@robertpowellj]

Great job Scott!

[@RivianDad]

Thanks for watching!

[@RivianDad]

Yep, it works, and it's pretty cool actually. Might just get another for the R1T!

[@paulcomeau2701]

Can you get the inflatable spare for the R1T?

[@Kulric]

I am pretty amazed that the spare went back down to the original shape. I expected the bead to be seated permanently.

[@slava700]

Thank you. I wish you demonstrated how the actual Rivian jack works. But a great video

[@firworks]

That compact spare is wild. I've never seen anything like that before. I wish Honda would go to that for the Ridgeline rather than the current donut spare.

[@RivianDad]

Yeah, but it only would work if you had it on board air compressor as you do in the Rivian. But it’s a good concept.

[@im4udevco]

Very impressed that the spare tire returned back to its original compressed shape just by letting the air out. They've removed my spare tire and I'm not sure if I'll get the original $450 price when I take delivery. Thanks for the video and it was very helpful.

[@johnbuch5650]

Well done! I was so disappointed that this ADVENTURE vehicle did not have a full size spare but this video mitigates some of my disappointment. Thanks much

[@RivianDad]

I feel similarly. Thx.

[@mfarooq5329]

Love father and son team the comparison. Excellent job.

[@RivianDad]

Thanks!

[@maximecuypersph.d.2029]

The new spare tire jack kit (

[@Team1EV]

I see some familiar jack pucks! Nice video Rivian Dad :)

[@RivianDad]

Thanks! Nice pucks. :)

[@Mr848Evo]

Pretty impressive. 👍🏼👍🏼 2 thumbs up to who ever engineered that spare tire.

[@DavidLeee]

These types of spares have existed for a while. Wasn’t engineered by Rivian in case folks were wondering

[@sydneywicks3747]

It was on the 2010 vw’s Touareg

[@NovaResource]

It was optional on 1967 Camaros and Firebirds and used throughout the 70’s and 80’s in many GM and Chrysler vehicles.

[@jameslala382]

Waaaat kind of sorcery is that with the tire deflation...i'm impressed with that fr sure!

[@jaimeduncan6167]

First time I saw how it works, thanks for sharing.

[@RivianDad]

Thanks for watching!

[@jasons7044]

Thats tire is awesome. I think changing a spare tire should be a requirement on a drivers test.

[@jaypatton8116]

Not sure why Rivian wouldn't make the vehicle automatically go into park and raise to highest ride height when you put it into tire change mode, if that is what is required to change the tire?

[@aaronbrennan12]

Great video. Oddly my R1S Launch Edition did not come with this tire. As of yet, it is not available in the gear store. Frankly they should’ve put a full sized tire for an “adventure” vehicle, but at least there is this option. Thanks for posting.

[@RivianDad]

Yeah, I've heard that. Initially my R1T didn't have a spare either, but I bought one later. Note that the full sized will sort of fit in the back compartment of the S, but it takes up most of the luggage space to do it. See kzbin.infomXKepD4HFa4

[@jamesengland7461]

I wonder if this is engineered like the ones that were in cars from the 1970s. I've never seen one inflated or deflated like this. Ingenious!

[@sleepy670]

Does anyone know the total depth of the spare tire compartment? Or the width of the tire deflated?

[@willburk]

Where are those jack point inserts stored? I assume they're designed to work with the scissor jack?

[@williamelkington5430]

Thanks very much, Scott. This is very helpful.

[@rje613]

Great video! I see you mentioned you didn't use the normal jack, and used the ProEagle instead. How did you get the attachment on the pro eagle that you could use with the hole under the Rivian?

[@RivianDad]

@@rje613 you can use the oem Jack puck (the black plastic stand that fits into the Jack hole) and just put it on the Pro Eagle platform. I use an aftermarket puck from EV Sportline. evsportline.com/products/rivian-r1t-r1s-billet-aluminum-heavy-duty-lifting-jack-pad-pucks

[@RivianDad]

@@rje613 the pucks just sit on the stand. Although I think Pro Eagle might make a part that actually connects to the Jack. I just use the platform

[@thomasrendon5248]

What is the floor jack you are using? My 1.5 ton barely lifts!

[@rmorgenstern]

Great video! thank you for posting. Do you know if there is anything unique with the wheel-wells/breaks of the R1S vs the T that would prevent the compact spare from working on an R1T? I was able to successfully order a compact spare at the local SC (not available in the gear shop yet), as I want to save a little room in my R1T spare well; and I am not an overlander.... while the SC did let me buy it, they said that was the "1st time someone asked for the compact on an R1T" so I want to make sure it will fit. I know the R1S is a longer vehicle but my assumption is the breaking HW and wheel well geometry is the same....Not sure if you've even compare'd with some of your R1T buds....any info appreciated

[@JanFerneborg]

Hi, thanks for the informative video. It's impressive that the spare tire can inflate soo much. How big is it when it's not inflated ?

[@RivianDad]

Yes it’s pretty impressive. When it’s not inflated, it’s about three or 4 inches bigger than the rim itself. Big but not huge. Small enough to fit in that compartment.

[@rvboyett]

I really thought you’d need a ratchet strap to get that tire back down to its original shape.. good video.

[@RivianDad]

Thanks. Yeah I was surprised by that too.

[@kentma7516]

well, where is the link to the product? thanks

[@RivianDad]

Added to the description above. Thx for pointing that out.

[@kentma7516]

@@RivianDad do you have the link to the spare tire ?

[@RivianDad]

@@kentma7516 The spare is part of the order when you purchase the truck. You may be able to order one through a Rivian guide or from the gear shop (rivian.com/gear-shop) but I don't see that as an option as of now.

[@AaronV_PNW]

Great video! You gained a subscriber! Totally off topic though...what shoes are you wearing? Been looking for a style like that. Thanks!

[@usa-ev]

Nice video! Well done!

[@jamesengland7461]

Great video! A few flaws with Rivian's execution, though. That silly cap you have to stand on your head and pry off? Seriously? And a scissors jack can be safe and durable, but isn't suited to high- ground- clearance vehicles, hence the platform. A screw-type mechanical bottle jack is what many pickups use. Citroën DS from 1955 had a hydropneumatic suspension which could simply lift a tire off the ground with the push of a button. It's great that the spare tire can shrink, but you still have to haul the flat tire home, and I presume it won't fit in the well? This, at this price, should come with an air ratchet which can both remove the lug nuts and power the jack, if the suspension can't lift the tire.. Now THAT would be helpful. As for lifting a tire, the suspension should be able to know which tire is flat, and then adjust the suspension upward, then lower the opposite corner all the way while lifting the corner with the flat tire all the way, then back off that corner - it'll only need an inch or 2 to clear the ground. In fact, it need only do so enough to remove the flat, as the spare could be installed and then inflated [unless it needs to lie flat for that fancy inflation sequence]. That way, you could use the compressor and air ratchet to swap tires, then sit safely in the vehicle while the tire inflates, disengage tire change mode, and drive away.

[@benk777]

Too bad the spare is no longer included in R1S deliveries. And not yet available for purchase from the gear shop. Any flat fix recommendations in the interim?

[@RivianDad]

boy, I wish I had something specific to offer here, but I don't. I think without the spare, it's just a matter of keeping a flat inflator kit with you. At least there is an onboard air compressor which can help in some situations. If you're planning an off-road outing with a high probability of a puncture, you may be able to buy a full sized tire to keep with you. I think those are easier to get and could even have an aftermarket spare to bring along. Haven't explored this but a good idea for a video. Thanks!

[@toddstube578]

Any chance was able to measure the size difference of the inflated spare vs. your 22in? Looks like might be close in one shot but also seemed very small when on the vehicle (gap between fender shots)

[@RivianDad]

Sorry, I didn’t compare them directly.

[@jasoncoryell2369]

Where did you get that spare? Rivian said they dont sell spares

[@RivianDad]

Came with the vehicle. I paid for it at purchase.

[@michaelcorvin5891]

I'm not sure if the spare tire space is the same size as the r1t but they both use the same kind of tires maybe just order a extra tire set from the website in the size you need and then there you go

[@alangebhardtsbauer9312]

full size cannot fit in the r1s tire hole.

[@michaelcorvin5891]

@@alangebhardtsbauer9312 that's what the truck bed is for 😂😂😂.... also my friend in Kalamazoo has a R1S and oh my God I love that thing I want one so bad

[@petevalianatos5462]

Scott thanks! Question where did you find the torque settings for the lug nuts. Your spent a lot of time on the PSI but nothing in the torque or where to find in owners manual?

[@KCautodoctor]

Rivian official Tow Operators Guide shows the lug nuts on both R1T & R1S are torqued to 190Nm (appx 140 ft-lbs). I am sure the same torque info is found in each respective Owners Manual.

[@kenyakking]

What happens if you don't put the jack point cover on or lose it? First time I've seen one...

[@dougmacdougall2097]

Nothing will happen. I’m ripping mine off. Waste of time

[@bcbodycomp]

Thank you

[@mattbrown7753]

Thanks for the video. Out of curiosity, I wonder if it would be possible to change the tires without a jack, but instead by using the Rivian’s adjustable heights and a stand. In other words, starting in highest height setting, positioning a stand under the vehicle (near whatever tire needs to be changed), and then lowering the height, effectively lifting the wheel off the ground. I guess it will depend on whether the 5 or 6 inches in adjustable height difference is enough.

[@RivianDad]

I don’t know this first hand but i imagine this would not work. I don’t think the air suspension can lift a tire, but who knows. Something to test! Thx.

[@kylealden]

Don't think this will work - AFACT the air suspension will adjust the ride height but not limit the travel, so even at a lower suspension setting the wheels will still hang free the full length of travel.

[@jamesengland7461]

Pity- Citroën DS could do that in 1955.

[@scientistguy]

Does the car come with that metal platform you had between the jack stand and the jack point or did you have to buy that separately? Thanks Scott!

[@kylealden]

The spare tire kit comes with a jack pad for the included jack, but it's not intended to be used on any other jacks. A couple brands like EVSportline sell jack pads that work great for other jacks, and Pro Eagle sells a Rivian jack pad intended for the offroad jack he used here (which will make your life a lot easier for regular changes, but the included bottle jack is good enough for an emergency).

[@scientistguy]

@@kylealden thank you!

[@lancele8949]

Scott, How do you feel about the jack that came with the R1S? Is it stable enough for the job? or you would recommended an aftermarket one that would fit in the SUV?

[@RivianDad]

Well, it's a scissor jack so basically it's the bare minimum. It's tough to use even under good circumstances and for a truck this heavy, could be quite dangerous. But, I have used it and it does work. Whenever I've been out for off-road trips, I bring the ProEagle along. It has saved a fellow R1T owner once. But, it's big and heavy so not ideal for a day-to-day option. I'm thinking about a bottle jack of some kind (maybe one that works with an air compressor), but the one I tried didn't have enough range to lift it, so I'm still looking. I'll keep you posted if I find something!

[@alonzogonzalez3062]

Rivian Dad, I believe you own a R1S and R1T? Can the R1S compact spare tire be used on the R1T? I would assume so and maybe this question is better suited for Rivian. In the gear shop, under compatibility it states the compact spare tire is only for the R1S.

[@RivianDad]

Simple answer is yes. The bolt pattern is the same for the S and T so you can swap wheels between the vehicles. But, I'm sure there are reasons they say it's only for the S (testing, specs?), but in a pinch it can be bolted on for sure, although I haven't tried it myself.

[@SilkySlim1049]

Who makes the spare? Wondering if its easier and less expensive to not get it from Rivian. Great video!!

[@RivianDad]

Don’t know but good question. I’ll have a look.

[@랄랄라-l3n]

스페어타이어에 한글을 적어놓고, 한국에는 언제 출시합니까?

[@justinstewart3248]

Looked like it was wobbling a bit

[@petaluma0]

👍🏻

[@Anubis78250]

One of the first things you do when you buy a new car is throw out the emergency tire and replace it with a real "spare tire". These things are even worse, I wouldn't trust it to get me down the driveway.

[@RivianDad]

Except that there isn’t a good place for a full spare. I actually think it worked pretty well. My only concern is the number of steps necessary to use it. Seems like that may be a problem on a cold winter day.

[@emtguy4321]

Holy crap that serious overkill by riv for a simple spare tire job

[@KalikaAdventures]

The video is great, for this amount of money this is just awful, imagine doing this on a cold windstorm in the night next to the highway…

[@brandonnelson4164]

Torque stick with electric impact wrench, *shutters*. They don’t work right with an electric impact wrench.

[@RivianDad]

Thx

[@Speed04GT]

That looks like it will be fun to do in the rain when you are in a hurry. Kinda sad to see manufacturers making a simple tire change in to so many unnecessary steps just to save a little space and money. Cool truck! Just sad to see things made more complicated than they need to be.

[@shawnconti8915]

Sounds like my love life…

[@RivianDad]

Ha. Good luck. :)

[@quanchyplimp]

What a f**k around just to find out what pressure the spare needs to be, how about Divian simply print that on the big bright yellow sticker of the wheel itself?, unbelievable. How about access to the compressor from the trunk space, so you can rest in on the tailgate and inflate instead of breaking your back putting the damn spare on the floor. There is not much thought gone into some parts of this very modern truck, how disappointing.

[@maxkendal5152]

Over $80,000 and the spare is optional? Any vehicle with the potential for off road use should have a full size spare as STANDARD. Poor engineering and design choices.

[@jaycrooks5141]

This is impossible where does the original tire go do you leave it and have someone mail it to you and to go into your car settings it takes an hour and a half to do something that should only take ten minutes you have 30 pieces you can’t lose that you need or it’s useless this shouldn’t be legal and it’s an option no you buy a brand new car and this is thrown in if I bought a brand new car and I found this out I’d take it back and get that tire thrown in or if not I’d take the piece of shit car back it’s not worth the trouble and who on earth is going to be able to figure this out you need a phd in car assembly screw that

[@JohnSmith-ug5ci]

Wow, VERY inconvenient. Definitely not user friendly.

[@RivianDad]

could be better, could be worse. My other car doesn't even come with a spare!

[@Uriah625]

@@RivianDadit it could be much worse. My Grand Caravan has the spare in the middle of the underbelly of the vehicle. Between the front seats there is a nut (for lack of a better word) that you put the lug wrench on. Then you spin that nut, which lowers the spare on a cable. Oh yeah, I’m sure that system is totally not seized up, lol. Then I have a Chevy 2500HD. Yep, spare is installed on the underbelly once again on a pulley system. A guy at work had a flat on his 2500 when he finished for the day. Had to use an angle grinder and cut the cable to get the spare down.

[@jibithomas6161]

This is inefficient. Tire changes shouldn’t take longer than calling Triple A. This process is way too long.

[@RivianDad]

Yeah, could be better although I prefer having something onboard rather than calling AAA. I'm a DIY type so it's good for me. Thx for the comment.

[@Uriah625]

Really? Other than having to increase the ride height, not sure how this is that much different than other spare tire changes.

[@hoffbd1]

that is one ugly vehicle

[@Japplesnap]

Too bad they couldn't have figured out a way to fit a fullsize matching tire and wheel.

[@Anti-Groomer]

The clothes you are wearing look really odd. You are not 16yos.