Rivian R1T | Can you Off-Road an EV?

[@OXFOOT]

Check out 4bladesdigital.com if you liked the drone and go pro footage!

[@OXFOOT]

Also let me know if y’all want to see a walk around of this Rivian!? I think this stuff is really cool but I don’t know if it’s universal.

[@eric9432]

Would definitely be interested in a walk-around. I feel the Rivians is just about the only electric vehicle I would want right now. But still not about to trade the Runner for it.

[@trailrunnah8886]

I would love to see a walk around of one of these. Especially if the owner was present to answer questions, and talk about his experiences living with it and off-roading with it. Kind of like the TFL style dude, I love my truck videos.

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Don' matter what you drive as long as you get to explore!!!👍

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah totally agreed! I’ll take a Rivian or an old beater blazer and it’ll still be fun!

[@LNLBGLD]

I wish the network for charging was better, which I imagine eventually it will be. But the rivian is more than capable, would be awesome to have one!

[@OXFOOT]

That’s hopefully going to expand soon. Also nice that next year they will also be compatible with the Tesla network.

[@ericnexplore]

Hello there, yes please a review on the Rivian would be great. I always wondered about electric trucks offroading. Greetings from Yellowknife 🇨🇦

[@OXFOOT]

I’ll get in contact with one of the guys to talk about doing a walk around. They are super cool.

[@Ninjalisha]

Super informative and scenic! 😍

[@OXFOOT]

Appreciate it!

[@trailrunnah8886]

I love these things. I still think the front end is a bit goofy, but other than that I think they look great, and I like the tech. I'm still not 100% sold on EVs, mostly because of our lagging infrastructure. Once that catches up though, I think they really will be a good alternative. Right now, I think hybrids are still the way to go. I've actually been considering trading my 4Runner for a RAV4 hybrid. I probably won't do it, the RAV4 is still a little small and lacks capability, but the 40 MPG is very tempting. Hopefully the next generation 4Runner is some sort of a hybrid that can touch 30 MPG. I think that would be a winner. Then hopefully by the next generation of vehicles, the charging network and range will be better for EVs. One thought I had, is that you can buy extended-range fuel tanks for vehicles like the 4Runner or Land Cruiser. I wonder if it would be possible to utilize some sort of an auxiliary battery. Yes it would really cut down on the bed space and cargo capacity, but would it be worth it for a few hundred extra miles of range?

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah the infrastructure in the US is what’s holding back the advancement of electric vehicles. I feel like the faster we can get that fixed the faster we can develop the tech and bring more efficient cars to the rest of the world. The Rav 4 is a good option but yeah it’s just not super capable beyond easy to moderate trails. It’s a trade off for sure. The new Tacoma coming out in a few months is going to have an EV model so I’d imagine that 1. There would be a hybrid version and 2. If it’s successful in the Tacoma they’d add it to the next 4Runner as well.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah I think the Evian has an extended range battery coming out but I think the addition of another battery like an auxiliary tank would be incredibly expensive. My 2000watt power bank was $2k and that would get the Rivian about 1 mile.

[@trailrunnah8886]

@@OXFOOT good point on the cost of the aux battery. Also, I didn't realize there was going to be an EV Tacoma, very cool! Hopefully it's a hit and the 4R gets the tech too.

[@fpartidafpartida]

Range extenders (gas engines that produce electricity…BMW Rex had one) get a bad wrap in the EV circles, but I think they are perfect for trucks. You only need to run them when towing or when overlanding for more then a few days. Most of the time you’d run full BEV.

[@LimitlessOverland]

Reported that unwanted stuff at the bottom. Awesome content btw!

[@OXFOOT]

Thank you for reporting and also thanks for the compliment. Very much appreciate it!

[@LimitlessOverland]

@@OXFOOT Not a problem! that stuff is completely uncalled for.

[@momoGuavajelly]

Love the video! Hopefully this moves the needle for other manufacturer's to compete; b/c this isn't priced for the everyday person. Would still like to daydream w/an in depth walk around.

[@OXFOOT]

That’s how I feel about it. Can I afford it? No way! Do I still want to know more? Absolutely!

[@OXFOOT]

I’d love this Rivian to be a blue print for other companies to follow on how to make a really fun electric car. A lot of them are soulless kitchen appliances but this one is really fun.

[@heyvern100]

Thank you so much I am the White one So much fun Love watching

[@OXFOOT]

Awesome! Glad you came out had a ton of fun out there!

[@MrAndrew941]

I think you would be mad not to get a Rivian, low running costs and all the off-road you could want with lower maintenance costs too.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah it’s just having that cash up front. I considered it since I may be able to use it as a tax write off but it’s still fairly expensive for me right now.

[@vegvisiroverland]

Do you know if the guy from Oklahoma is near OKC? OKC Overland does monthly meetups and it would be cool as hell if he could come out to one and show off!

[@OXFOOT]

Hm I don’t actually know. I’ll have to try to find out. I didn’t really know anyone there other than the Rivian I rode in.

[@JeffBarnhart]

Looks like Imogene pass?

[@OXFOOT]

I wish! This is Webster pass not too far from Denver. About 45 minutes away.

[@MrAndrew941]

But Jeep has just lunched it’s all electric off road truck that’s rubicon rated, so that’s a option.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah I’d love to get a ride along in one of those and see how it does.

[@2-old-Forthischet]

I don't see why not, as long as someone has a generator.

[@OXFOOT]

Lol true

[@ameyphatale4407]

Loved the VDO for most part. Focus quality is poor, hope you make a note of this in your next VDOs.

[@OXFOOT]

What? Focus quality?

[@hayesginther897]

While I love the idea of electric cars its hard to consider this any more of an offroad capable vehicle than a Subaru. The weight and durability are a huge issues. Ive seen videos of them struggle on steep inclines that a stock 4runner or jeep would walk up with no problem.

[@OXFOOT]

That’s fair. It doesn’t really have a low range of any sort however the major difference for me is the amount of clearance. I think the best comparison would be a Subaru if it had bag suspension and was able to get that height. So more capable but not by a ton.

[@trailrunnah8886]

@@OXFOOT counterpoint to that, and this is just a thought: Since electric motors make 100% torque at 1rpm, do they even need low range? And as far as speed control going downhill, it seems like the re-gen works pretty well as a hill descent control on these.

[@admantiom1848]

Indeed, the weight is a huge issue for me as well, also a Rivian was stuck in sand in Death Valley and we had a major hard time getting it out it was me with my Fj and my brother with his Dodge truck and we both hocked our winches to it and still had a hard time getting him out. 8000 lbs truck plus camping gear will bring it close to 9500 lbs mark, and that’s is a lot of weight, also some sorts of low rang gearing/system is a must since he was spinning tiers. I have a 4 speed Atlas transfer case with 11.69:1

[@fpartidafpartida]

Do you mean struggling like this? kzbin.infonhAftR0hTZw?si=syqjCeRqSMRPOKNh. Please post a link to a non-modified Subaru doing that 😀. BTW, a stock 4 runner would not have the approach or departure angle to be able to do this very same hill. As far as your durability comment goes, Rivian offers an 8 year /175,000 mile drive train warranty from the factory (which includes the battery). What does Toyota or Jeep offer since they are so reliable?

[@fpartidafpartida]

@@OXFOOTThat’s not a fair comment at all. The Rivian R1S just completed the Rubicon Trail in 2 days (without extra charging). Go ahead and Google “Hardest off road trail in the United States” and see what the #1 result is. The only modification they did to the vehicle was they added rock sliders and a winch attachment. You’re telling me you’d want to do that trail with a Subaru? 🙄.

[@jazminforbes209]

21:19 what song is this????

[@Humandriver5280]

Goodluck finding a charging station in Creede or anywhere in remote Colorado.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah the goal is to plan the routes out so you have enough to make it through the trail. Obviously the will be difficult as this is the first year model of the Rivian and the EV Tacoma hasn’t been released yet. By the time you ordered a new Rivian and actually got it (2 years from now lol) the network should be better. But yeah right now you are limited to trails off 70 or 285.

[@fyneyoungstunna]

Coloradian here , most of the mountain towns have chargers at city hall or close to. The Tesla guys go out all the time and I see the Rivian guys up and around too

[@albeklik8055]

Romanticize in about this~ electric I'm not gonna say anything more than that the reliability it is the question I won't fall in romance On the other hand I love my4unner never ever traded trade it to anything else.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah true. I love my 4Runner and it’s likely something I’ll have a while, maybe I’d trade for a Tacoma or tundra but I like Toyota a lot. I’d love to see the stats on the new electric Tacoma but at that point maybe I’d just do a hybrid. Or just a regular gasser.

[@albeklik8055]

The problem with Tacoma especially it is A pickup truck and is Built-in United States And the cab from the top to the bottom is short And I don't trust tondra whatsoever.

[@Shabobidhuffy]

There should have been a Subaru passing you guys up for context. Still , Nice EV truck for sure.

[@OXFOOT]

These are way more capable than Subarus but yeah the no low range thing is sort of a killer. The clearance and low end torque makes these at least twice as capable as a stock Subaru.

[@Shabobidhuffy]

@@OXFOOT I was just joking. Absolutely EV is way for 4x4 future too. EV is all I drive. What I meant was that the difficulty of this trail is a joke.

[@DeDREWS1F]

Love this truck, but if there is a loss of power you have a brick. Seems like an oversight for an off-road vehicle. This truck can't even be recovered depending on the location.

[@OXFOOT]

Yeah I’d like to see more charging stations at trail heads. I think at some point if more companies make offroad electric vehicles then they’ll get to that it’ll make the feasible.

[@DeDREWS1F]

@@OXFOOT even if we get charging stations at trail heads (which would be incredible) it sucks that the rivian has to have power to the wheels or they lock up. Maybe a future plug in battery for a "neutral" gear option in future models as a safety precaution.

[@charlesgraham7088]

Just think a coal fired or natural gas power plant is charging up the batteries. So, electric vehicles being better for the environment is nullified. Not a fan of them.

[@OXFOOT]

Oh it has nothing to do with environmental reasons. I worked in oil and gas for like 4 years, I got nothing but love for oil and gas, just love the fact that I could have an all electric truck that can tow/haul and be used as an offroad rig while also doing 0-60 in 3 seconds. It’s the ideal two car solution but it’s one car.

[@bakerboy5690]

Ya ima be big fat no on electric overland vehicles… sure they have no gas but..no going through water? If a battery gets punctured or randomly combusts big fire no stoping that. Also no charge stations out in wilderness no extra battery to just swap or charge up. Only plus i see is running appliances and heated blanket haha.

[@OXFOOT]

The charging network really is a big issue right now. Electrify America has made an effort to have charging stations not too far from trails. I don’t know if that was intentional or just happened to work out. While they are conveniently located, the charging time isn’t my favorite.

[@zonehawk]

They can go through water better than most ICE trucks (3ft from Rivian). Also if a gas tank gets punctured or randomly combusts, no stopping that either. The only thing I agree with you on is the current lack of charging infrastructure but that's getting better rapidly too.

[@PumpUptheJam81]

I have seen many vehicle fires in off road situations. Also have come across many people out of gas. And yea they can ford a stream. Let’s cut the nonsense misinfo that’s out there.

[@OXFOOT]

@@PumpUptheJam81 very true

[@AKNigel]

Rivians have the deepest water fording ability of any new pickup. They catch fire 1/20th the rate of regular vehicles. There aren't gas stations in the wilderness either btw.