wait for them to actually deliver a car before calling them a rival
@peterzerfass46094 жыл бұрын
Sean Mitchell recently had a good talk about all the past "Tesla Killers" (Aptly named the "The Tesla Killer Cementary") at the at Fully Charged Live meetup kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpWwpKR-opWHjsU Let's see if Rivian will end up there, too.
@2013TombRaider4 жыл бұрын
Max Morrison oh they are competition you can ignore all you wait and say many came and many failed etc but rivian is different. They actually have good tech software etc and they also have big companies backing them up to make sure they don’t go bankrupt also they have pretty good support from people not tesla level support but they might after they start delivering..
@emmanuel93254 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right. Comparing any car brand to tesla is a cursed
@JoseLopez-dt6sw4 жыл бұрын
nik maknojia difference between Tesla and everyone else is that Tesla is a luxury brand. People buy Tesla for the brand more than anything
@olivierdols55564 жыл бұрын
@@JoseLopez-dt6sw well yes and no because Tesla's are currently the best EV's on the market so they go for the brand Tesla
@J-Gx4 жыл бұрын
Every electric car seems to be a Tesla rival/killer. Good luck with that.
@dravidan87324 жыл бұрын
Ziggi Mon aren’t the Renault and other like a lot cheaper and more well suited for those kind of environments? Tesla is selling to the entire world
@clevernduruza86244 жыл бұрын
@Ziggi Mon French people support their manufacturer's unlike Americans.
@distantarray4 жыл бұрын
@Ziggi Mon Most important figure is Tesla sells EVERY CAR they can produce. No one else has a backlog of orders that they can't fulfill. Nice try in cherry picking a tree with only a few cherries.
@Zee2164 жыл бұрын
@Ziggi Mon france is a baby market
@shadowninja66894 жыл бұрын
Best case scenario for every 'Tesla Killer' is they become the #2 EV maker in the market. Tesla has already secured their spot as #1, their tech and branding lead is too many miles ahead of the competition at this point.
@76century234 жыл бұрын
Start making vehicles already. Been hearing about this forever.
@distantarray4 жыл бұрын
10 years and still waiting...
@shadowninja66894 жыл бұрын
@jabberwolf Tesla moved the release date for the Model Y UP, not back. Tesla has gotten much better at meeting their deadlines lately.
@eatyournoodless4 жыл бұрын
jabberwolf Tesla is probably 10 times better lmao. They are way ahead in terms of experience, tech, and design.
@yootoober20094 жыл бұрын
@jabberwolf - Green car makers go through painful learning curve just like others - Duesenburg, De Lorean and Future. We'll wee if Rivian is an exception but to date there are ZERO successful new car makers in the US.
@anthonyle17334 жыл бұрын
@jabberwolf I mean if it takes you 11 years to make a car you better release it on time. Also no point in delaying if they only have 2000 preorders.
@L3L3Lee4 жыл бұрын
Tesla never got this much love when it was a start up. I remember everyone saying the company wont survive and now every new start up is celebrated as a Tesla killer. Shouldn't we be celebrating innovation and creativity, surely more is better than less......right ?
@jaykumar71004 жыл бұрын
I like Elon but competition always favor customer.
@Mr-ji2im4 жыл бұрын
True. However even if rivian wrecked tesla, I'd still be buying tesla just because his plans to go to mars and revolutionize earth. Competition is a good thing most of the time, but until rivian starts making space companies I just can't go with them.
@staph80224 жыл бұрын
theory816 traitor? traitor to ice cars or other ev companies😂
@shubhankardasgupta47774 жыл бұрын
@theory816 but soon you IC car is gonna cost more than driving a kilometre.
@matrix26784 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-ji2im Tesla is a ticket to mars
@matrix26784 жыл бұрын
@@zoyaspencer8025 wait for Japan
@mehtaverse4 жыл бұрын
I visited their Normal, IL factory in Spring 2018 as part of my practicum curriculum. It was an abandoned Mitsubishi factory that they planned turn into a electric car assembly line. It was very nascent during that time with few stamping machines, automated robots and a paint shop. They want to make an electric truck which I found to be very unique and promising at that time and I am happy to see they are ready to launch soon. We need as much electric cars on the roads as possible but we should also try to figure out alternative and efficient ways to produce electricity to meet this new demand because, as long as we keep using conventional energy sources to generate electricity, these electric cars would not be able to make a significant impact.
@artbyshk4 жыл бұрын
Steve-O now CEO of some electric car brand god damn
@MajorWTech4 жыл бұрын
3:33 real player? The only "real player" is Tesla. Don't get me wrong but i would love to see Rivian succeed but until they start delivering some cars or starts producing some cars dont call them Tesla's killer or even rival.
@jasonv63194 жыл бұрын
Messias Alves rivian will be like samsung to apple.. right up there but apple still on top for its ecosystem
@elliotthampton31673 жыл бұрын
The thing about rivian is how it’s skateboard can be moved across. For example the same skate board in the vans are in the trucks and the suv, not to mention they can be easily adapted due to their design to scale vehicles, including turning these packs into power walls. The difference between Tesla and Rivian is the scale ability and depth that they have.
@Lumumba_003 жыл бұрын
@@jasonv6319 rivals to Tesla are in China and will take over the world soon. Nio and Xpeng.
@vegetarianandsimple53884 жыл бұрын
so where can we get the stock I looked on stash and robinhood and I cant find it
@jeez-rz4 жыл бұрын
Rival? These aren’t even in consumer hands yet.. Get to market first.
@Miura004 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s real charismatic
@ghostrunner21384 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone so parted? I’m a huge Tesla fan and I also can’t wait for this thing to hit the streets.
@paulrybarczyk50134 жыл бұрын
@Sal B I'm a Tesla fanboy, and I think Rivian is great. So that's not the point of contention. The point is ... this video is an infomercial disguised as news. It completely ignores the huge expansion struggles that Rivian is about to face. Their design is very clever, but they're basically Tesla in 2012. Tesla struggled for years even with no real EV competition. Rivian will face the same struggles but with huge competition.
@qwertygames23394 жыл бұрын
@Sal B basically what paulry said.
@2013TombRaider4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care about their cars but I do wanna know where can I buy their stocks 🙂
@robertchristensen99494 жыл бұрын
nik maknojia Amazon has a large stake in it, investing in Amazon is in part an investment in Rivian
@TheNebraska4024 жыл бұрын
i would suspect that in the upcoming years you will be able to hear of an IPO from the company. start saving for some of the IPO stocks. that is what I have been doing. and if the company is bought out before an IPO, then at least there is some cash to invest in other companies or go on a vacation. with an investor like Amazon, i find it hard for the company to file bankruptcy right out of the gate. Bezos is going to make sure this thing is around for a few more years
@Dee24ization4 жыл бұрын
Get ready for the IPO in the near future
@GoatDirt4 жыл бұрын
Such a great company! Can’t wait to see these get moving.
@vladislavbashev17074 жыл бұрын
They don't have their own chargers and no battery supply factory, so there you have 2 big problems from the start. How are they going to get enough batteries, when there are already so many manufacturers struggling and delaying their production due to lack of battery supply.
@robertchristensen99494 жыл бұрын
Vladislav Bashev not to mention it won’t have the self driving of Tesla
@temporalsoliton4 жыл бұрын
They need to extend their partnership with Amazon for the logistics to sell their vehicles online, install home chargers and service the cars on site. That type of full service would really change the automotive paradigm.
@xijingpooh58794 жыл бұрын
so what basic spec do you get for $70k USD.
@dannyabe64524 жыл бұрын
Not as much as Cyber Truck.
@konferowicz19674 жыл бұрын
Where would I service this truck?
@JSMachineWorks4 жыл бұрын
Definitely way better looking design than anything Tesla has ever come up with
@dannyabe64524 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they need to increase their range though and build a dedicated charging network.
@arthureum4 жыл бұрын
Founded in 2009, and no production. lol Tesla, founded in 2003. made their production car in 2008. It doesn't look yet like they are trying to beat TESLA with speed.
@thevinceberry4 жыл бұрын
I think their truck is too hard to build for a startup
@gusmartin59814 жыл бұрын
I have a question, given that towing reduces range for all vehicles, can trailers/caravans/floats etc have additional battery packs with EV motors thereby assisting and potentially increasing the range and not decreasing it. By feeding charge back into the EVs. This would be more doable than in the case of Petrol/Diesel vehicles, But it could still benefit combustible vehicles, if they were converted into hybrids. Any thoughts? regards Gus
@SB_Tommy4 жыл бұрын
the Tesla supercharger network make it hard for auto makers to compete with i wonder how Rivian is going to tackle this problem
@fpartidafpartida4 жыл бұрын
Electrify America and Chargepoint.
@canine5554 жыл бұрын
One day, maybe in 2035, they might actually release a car. How about a little less talk and a little more action.
@teamtoken4 жыл бұрын
They are, they’ve said a 2020 launch for years and thats what they’re ready for in the next 6 months
@lukelim50944 жыл бұрын
@@teamtoken covid already crush the car industry. No way a startup gonna survive when even big companies are struggling .
@biohazard9114 жыл бұрын
What I wanna know is can I put a sheet of drywall or a 4x8 plywood between the wheel bass on the bed ?
@victorvandyke98984 жыл бұрын
Yeah I ordered mine in Nov 2018! within the first 10. I've been asking for a while now when color and other options would be available, just no real response. Rivian needs to be more open about what's going on!
@davidrte.6643 жыл бұрын
Hope they do well. I like the look of the truck. Watched it on Long Way Up and it was impressive. Plus it’s in my home town well almost. I’m from Bloomington. In California now left in 66. But a lot of good memories.
@OGHiddenpaw4 жыл бұрын
That’s a whole Lotta nothing. They just use the word sustainability 1 million times.
@TheBodyShop-2474 жыл бұрын
This guy has to be related to Steve-o
@ThePanda-MARS4 жыл бұрын
the dashboard on that truck looks nice
@USNEM4 жыл бұрын
Once they actually start selling a car ill take them more serious.
@sumedhpradhan4 жыл бұрын
How they cam they be rivals if both automakers are having cars in different segments..
@alanramirez4724 жыл бұрын
When you have companies releasing the paten for their vehicle technology, because they truly care about global sustainability not monopolization. It those principles that will always keep my support . #Tesla
@theknave44154 жыл бұрын
The Rivian pickup will find a market niche among the upper middle class adventure sports crowd. Depending on how the market plays out, they may end up stuck manufacturing EV delivery vans. It could still become a profitable company, even so.
@incrediblehulk78114 жыл бұрын
Self driving? Charging network?
@dpellek744 жыл бұрын
There is a huge flaw to this truck. And this company doesn't think about it or even see this flaw. Wanna know what it is?? Rivian doesn't even realize their problem.
@Stutterstun4 жыл бұрын
Pelican74 care to share?
@johnsmith11674 жыл бұрын
Yes would you let us know
@Mr-ji2im4 жыл бұрын
@@Stutterstun I will share. After all it's in my best interest to share with you the problem he didn't share in enough detail. There is a huge, no, major flaw in this truck, and that flaw is something, something that is big. And that flaw is Rivians inability to share the flaw, just as the original commenter.
@dannyabe64524 жыл бұрын
The flaw is the price, specs and range not to mention the small bed size and lack of a dedicated charging network.
@amirkazemi25174 жыл бұрын
is this gonna go public or what.....????? beautiful looking truck
@GregStew4 жыл бұрын
Great development. Looking forward to seeing the first ones off the production line!! 😊
@tomdavison91074 жыл бұрын
Good luck sourcing enough batteries.
@Neojhun4 жыл бұрын
They already have, they are getting Cells from Samsung SDI. Due to poor reputation (Galaxy Note 7) not many Legacy Automakers are using them. But Tesla used them for Power Packs. Rivian imports those Cells and builds their own Battery packs.
@maxtruong1874 жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun expect battery shortages
@TheNebraska4024 жыл бұрын
@@maxtruong187 i wonder if Rivian will produce their own batteries within 3-4 years??
@maxtruong1874 жыл бұрын
@@TheNebraska402 not likely at least 10 years
@gusmartin59814 жыл бұрын
It is not fair to compare Rivian with Telsa, because Tesla is more than just cars. It also leading the charge into battery technology (excuse the pun) , self driving and generally vertical integration than any other car manufacturer. No one is killing Tesla this side of 2100. For this reason I am a Tesla fanboy, but I am getting a Rivian anyway. Go Rivian, you guys rock.
@MikeOnTheInterwebs4 жыл бұрын
When there's only two players in a market, and only one of those players actually has production and sales...
@Neojhun4 жыл бұрын
The underrated player is Hyundai Kia Group and their 4 Models of BEVs already on sale.
@Steve-wo9uy4 жыл бұрын
this is the kind of pickups that some people drive as a car, not use as a truck.
@Vger8884 жыл бұрын
Tesla is a lead in the EV world but they alone can’t possibly replace the entire worlds ice vehicles. We need competition to drive down prices and that includes an actual affordable Tesla for the masses. The term Tesla Killer stokes much anger amongst fanboys which in turn generates negative comments deriding all alternatives.
@b2l4214 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Research Fronteries Inc SPD Glass on the roofs of these models.
@abazam774 жыл бұрын
so good and good Luck 😍😍😘😘
@raphymartinez4 жыл бұрын
Who the heck is Jeff Beezos?
@shubhankardasgupta47774 жыл бұрын
The Owner of the Amazon.inc
@sanghyunhwang12974 жыл бұрын
Very good to have more competitions in the EV market
@nanuarora24014 жыл бұрын
It will be Tesla>>Lucid Motors>>Rivian>>Every other automobile company in about 10 years
@markplott48204 жыл бұрын
Lucid cars are NOT safe. TESLA is Beyond 5 star Safety.
@nanuarora24014 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 How can you comment about safety when they haven't even started production yet?
@markplott48204 жыл бұрын
@@nanuarora2401 - Rivian is all Smoke & Mirrors, they have been in Business for a Decade and have produced NOTHING.
@benpaynter4 жыл бұрын
Rivian are awesome and I really hope they succeed but for the article to say that they along with Tesla are the only serious players in the EV market is a joke. They haven't sold any cars yet when multiple legacy automakers have sold tens of thousands of EV's already. And to put them on a par with Tesla is also ridiculous. Tesla is so far ahead at the moment. Sure, maybe Rivian will catch them in time but currently Rivian are selling zero cars and Tesla sell thousands a month.
@muskreality4 жыл бұрын
It's so sad they canceled Rivian I was really looking forward to see the company succed
@223costa4 жыл бұрын
Already?
@TheAgentTexas4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is complaining about time and rivals. These things take time. It's not just a car it's a enormous piece of software too. Most car companies aren't taking software as seriously as Rivian and Tesla. Give it some time and it will come out (granted a bit of delay with the virus). As far as rivals go, Rivian is more competing against Jeep and Land Rover. It's an adventure vehicle Tesla's brand is anything but adventure. Even the Cyber truck isn't an adventure brand. It's built as a tank for outdoors and heavy lifting but it's aesthetic design is anything but adventure.
@philabot4 жыл бұрын
I want one!!!
@santiagovilla62194 жыл бұрын
with no battery supply… it Will be dificult for rivian to compete
@ogkingpin19624 жыл бұрын
they'll probably get it from tesla. It'll be like the relationship androids have with apple when it comes to phone screen production
@vladislavbashev17074 жыл бұрын
@@ogkingpin1962 Tesla cant keep up with their own projects battery demand(semi, roadster need a lot of batteries), so in the near future they will be using the batteries for themselves, until they ramp up.
@jasonsmith11434 жыл бұрын
I like this truck. hope they will make one under $50k.
@MIZANURRAHMAN-hl9rl3 жыл бұрын
Competition of TESLA? I lost it there... startup vs the world's richest person. Is this a movie plot!!!
@mactastic1444 жыл бұрын
How can they manufacture and deliver vehicles without a single retail store or service center? How are the people that buy it going to service their vehicle?
@wrk89994 жыл бұрын
And they batteries, where?
@wrk89994 жыл бұрын
And they get batteries where?
@chrisose45854 жыл бұрын
If a company does say “The next Tesla rival/killer” They won’t get as many clicks. Am I right or am I right? Alright Alright Alriiiiiight as Mathew Meconahey would say
@peterzerfass46094 жыл бұрын
It's not really a competition. For one the market is way larger than Tesla and Rivian combined can cover. For another these two aren't even vying for the same demographic or can you see someone going for the rivian also going for the cybertruck (or vice versa)?
@flo34844 жыл бұрын
That exactly what Tesla wants , more competition and EV that are not teslas !
@francomann59744 жыл бұрын
That TeslA Cyborg 👽 looking of a suv......made Revian already subservient...I mean substandard,..Belle deliver
@grantslife4 жыл бұрын
Elon was nice when designing his cyber truck to look nothing like a traditional truck, probably so Rivian didn't go bankrupt and now this creates competition for both companies!
@financeroyce47410 ай бұрын
Fast forward 2 years, they’re still catching up but slightly ahead of ford, we’ll see if they fall behind or stay mostly in commercial space, cargo vans etc.
@resivaz4 жыл бұрын
Clark Kent vs Tony Stark! Well played Forbes!
@TradingFeline4 жыл бұрын
How many times am i gonna be hearing about this company while they still have nothing to offer?
@sadmanchowdhury42604 жыл бұрын
They have been around for 11 years and still not a single car has come to market.
@PhillProbst4 жыл бұрын
I don't see Rivian and Tesla as competitors. They're targeting different market niches. Models X & Y are crossovers, R1S is an SUV. Cybertruck targets the Hummer buyer, R1T the Ridgeline. They don't compete with one another, they complement one another.
@oakmonster21644 жыл бұрын
I'll buy into the hype when they at least start allowing test drives.....
@sadigov4 жыл бұрын
In old Sanskrit Rivian means “dream on, Scaringe!”
@angelmatos91434 жыл бұрын
A rival is much more than 'temporary cute cars'. Way more.
@MuhammadUsman044 жыл бұрын
2 words "Cyber Truck"
@Je.rone_4 жыл бұрын
*they'll have a lot of caughting up to do*
@Neojhun4 жыл бұрын
I really want them to suceed. But i doubt Rivian will be a mass produced brand to consumers. They will be a Drive Train Supplier & Commercial Vehicle contractor. Those are areas where they can carve out safe market. At most their Rivian Adventure Vehicles will be a halo product for their real business.
@stevenwellesley4 жыл бұрын
Just as Tesla painfully experienced, designing and prototyping the product is only 10% of the journey, that's what Rivian and countless of failed auto startups have achieved. Production, charging infrastructure, service centers, software/AI, and battery supply are the real challenge which all these 'rivals' need to overcome.
@santoshkumar-gc8bp4 жыл бұрын
First This is not a truck it does not have toughness that needed to be a truck .this is just a crossover in truck shape...
@rehabsportsclub4 жыл бұрын
Let them go on the stock market please
@aalindtyagi94134 жыл бұрын
Yeah they haven't actually done anything yet. Just waiting for a company to do something. But still, you can't beat Tesla at its own game.
@weightliftingdoktor4 жыл бұрын
That huge empty floor space they call a ‘plant’ will be churning out EVs in a few months 😂
@prez18944 жыл бұрын
I wish rivian best of luck
@HaluhalongPuna4 жыл бұрын
i have a dumb question though if anyone can answer this, please do so. coz i've been wondering all this time: So, aren't Rivian paying royalties to Tesla because of manufacturing the same single-battery structure design? isn't that an exclusive design for Tesla only? coz otherwise why aren't other automotive legacy companies doing the same thing with single-battery style battery for their EV's? is it their pride that's holding them back? i hope you get what I' saying. thanks.
@Tangopassion14 жыл бұрын
Another Rival ? Rivian is great, but of course we have to see
@JaredW-te6ho4 жыл бұрын
They should work with ford to make a r1t “raptor”
@Neojhun4 жыл бұрын
Nah their Ford Partnership $500 Million stake is not for high-end fast trucks. Seems like Rivian will design a cheaper drive train for Ford & LG Chem to build a F-150 mid range. Rivian simply does not have the production capacity. Ford doesn't want to do high end BEVs.
@fpartidafpartida4 жыл бұрын
Neojhun that’s no accurate at all. They will make Ford’s higher end Lincoln brand.
@maxtruong1874 жыл бұрын
To be call tesla rivial, they need a car similar in specs and techs. Also they need to be able to mass produce their vehicles. Tesla makes hundred thousands cars a year. It doesn't matter if the cybertruck is produce 200k a year while rivian is 30 or 40k. Big big different with similar price point. (The base version of.cybertruck is 39k, yes but i compare the dual motors and tri motors
@Bighomiehobbs4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is just like hype gear you cant compete with it everyone will always want one because its tesla
@3deaster4 жыл бұрын
Forbes they’re disrupting gas ⛽️ cars
@extremeclimax4 жыл бұрын
STEVE O in parallel universe??
@jasonfuqua42843 жыл бұрын
Dude looks like Steve-O Jobs.
@royallad29614 жыл бұрын
Didn't they already get extinct 2 years back?
@terrancenelson7134 жыл бұрын
There are many regular car manufactures that are and have made electric cars. This editorial makes it appear as they never existed and it’s only Tesla and Rivian. If GM and Ford make an electric car/truck that is below the affordability of these manufactures and long range then they will eventually rule the market. There are dealerships across the country that can service these vehicles, the same cannot be said with Rivian and Tesla, huge disadvantage.
@darkkthief16264 жыл бұрын
Telsa is like Apple. No competitors are going to overtake their market share, their brand is too big already.
@meejmuas86864 жыл бұрын
Even if they finish building the plant, how will they produce enough batteries to make these cars? Every challenge that Tesla faced, Rivian will also. They can only follow behind big brother Tesla. Tesla created the innovation, branding and vertical integration. Throwing money at a company is one thing, actual execution is where the genius work needs to happen.
@larsrome28634 жыл бұрын
They lost me at “Jeff BeEeEeEzOs”
@thewolfdoctor7614 жыл бұрын
If they were $30K cheaper, I'd buy one.
@MarquosXoloVanda4 жыл бұрын
How much are they?
@samv024 жыл бұрын
Tesla became Apple of automobile industry. To beat Tesla, other companies should be as flexible as Samsung and should adopt changes much faster....
@ReevansElectro4 жыл бұрын
Too similar to existing trucks that have very strong brand loyalty. There is not really a good case to make someone jump over to buy one. Cyber Truck is the one to buy.
@Jordan-jh8yj4 жыл бұрын
"rivals".... cars built and sold? ...No? oh boi, I'm not sure about this one chief.
@staph80224 жыл бұрын
zzz boring af when will they stop saying tesla killer or whatever. tesla seems to be the benchmark for an EV company. rivian tesla rival, lucid air tesla killer, once ice car companies produces evs tesla will dead. bruh take a step back and see what all tesla has done.look at some checklist before saying tesla killer: -extensive and increasing superchagers -Autonomous software -Stable battery production -Vertical Intergration manufacturing -Battery technology -Constantly innovating -Having multiple (gigafactories) -Over the air software update and performance -Great price and performance Other players dont even have their own charging network and rely on public charging point or if they believe in sustainable transportation,they can use tesla's supercharging network without have a big pride and ego
@leonelaventuras15264 жыл бұрын
You need to go public bro, I have some money getting rotten in my bank I would like to invest in your company.
@benjicool28084 жыл бұрын
every automaker make a wide range of electric vehicles now btw
@ChrisDriven4 жыл бұрын
Until they can have a affordable truck to price against Tesla then they could become a competitor
@reignmkr644 жыл бұрын
OK. I've keeping track of the reviews of the Rivian products and so far there hasn't been a single third party test drive--NONE--not even a ride-along! The company has been very very careful to create a lot of buzz with the automotive press basically leveraging Tesla's reputation/product and the media's desire to report on ANYTHING that might give Tesla competition. I'm growing a little leery about this company and its claims
@unusuario51734 жыл бұрын
You cannot call them a rival unless you can buy their cars already. Making an appealing prototype is easy. Mass-producing it isn't.