A video about the Cybertron games.

[@RoadRustle]

Thanks for watching this video - it was a long effort so I'm very happy that it was worth it for y'all! Subscribe to stay tuned for what's next!

[@silent_dude]

Hello, cool video, I liked that he fired at the expense of Grimlock and this is told in the Transformers Prime and Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters comics from IDW, which connects Prime and the dilogy. There is also a full walkthrough of FoC on my channel

[@allforart1st267]

Where did you get the intro music from?

[@smoke264]

About the third game, it was rumored to involve the arrival of unicron and to return to cybertron to stop him

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

Yo bro, PLEASE tell me how you played this???

[@They_Hit_The_Pentagon]

Hey as a quick question where did you fine those clips of megaton talking about Orion at the beginning

[@thefmehnater]

A quote Cullen carried with him while auditioning for Prime back in the 80s was "be strong enough to be gentle.”

[@moonwhooper]

From his brother

[@fernosbonos5394]

@@moonwhooper that advice brought him to an iconic creation of transformers

[@TransformersGeek14]

“If you are going to be a leader, be a real leader not a Hollywood leader with the yelling and screaming and pretending to be a tough guy. Be sincere, be honest, be respectful….be strong enough to be gentle.”

[@Pyracyntrix]

@@TransformersGeek14 and then they threw all that out of the window. Thanks, Michael Bay

[@twistedyogert]

​@@moonwhooper His brother was a Marine.

[@Esty568]

I love how they nailed Megatron’s (and everyone’s) personality in this game. He straight up lies in his own records about Optimus accepting primehood, even when it is apparent without a doubt, that Optimus never wanted that. Megatron’s pride is so hurt in that moment, that he lies to himself to feel better. Also in the prison, he demands Optimus one thing: to leave Cybertron. But when Optimus tries to do just that, Megatron starts shooting at them and yells, that noone leaves without his permission. Just shows how much he is loosing his mind and i love it. I love this game took the characters this seriously.

[@YeetIsHere]

I honestly feel bad for megatron, he’s just a bot blinded by his own rage and thirst for power

[@galaxycamerata]

One of my favorite things about FoC is that the change to consistent faction swapping between chapters, ending with a final level where you repeatedly swap between them, feels like it's making a grander statement on what's happening as a result of Megatron's war. You are literally always making things worse for yourself no matter what. The war no longer serves its purpose. It's just the Decepticons riding their collective battle high and hoping it will all be worthwhile.

[@sadchild9478]

@@YeetIsHere I think the dark energon might also be messing with his head

[@JEF_W]

Well, he’s probably a guy who wants to hurt the planet who hurt him so many times. Maybe he wants to do the same to the universe by conquering it too.

[@nialltealeaf275]

@@galaxycamerata Which makes choosing Optimus a rejection of Megatron's ideals of total victory in war; whereas choosing Megatron implies embracing the final, true, attack on his character he'd demanded out of Optimus from the start. Hell, what once felt like a funni ha ha choice meant for us as kids to play with our imaginations becomes a greater question... The final choice in Fall of Cybertron is between a moral victory (Optimus wins, Ark makes it to Earth) or a final victory before long and painful withdrawals (Megatron wins, only to find himself alone on Earth, with the Decepticons becoming a shell of what they were while the Autobots continue to successfully dunk on what had once been a nihilistic drive for "victory against the Primes for all they stood for, and their Orion Pax, too!").

[@omegaraver7609]

I noticed how when optimus and grimlock are chained up in their respective levels, they each take a different approach. Optimus tries to talk and reason with with Megatron, while Grimlock just busts out of his chains.

[@2bdaqueen268]

Fitting because Grimlock and Optimus are often at odds with each other with Grimlock not liking Optimus being soft and merciful and viewing him as weak for it

[@moonwhooper]

@@2bdaqueen268 yes that was said in the video

[@2bdaqueen268]

@@moonwhooper and I’m repeating what they said to prove this persons point

[@FearFxl]

@@2bdaqueen268i would’ve liked having dinobots involved more - the the reunion with everyone but dinobots vs combiners at the end would’ve been 10x better but i lovee these games i played both like 30 times as a kid.

[@lilithofthevoid4922]

Always found it funny that Bumblebee calls Starscream a yellow-plated coward when Bumblebee is most all yellow

[@jaredgarcia8638]

But he ain't a coward

[@gamingmoran9597]

@@jaredgarcia8638 yes

[@withsomeflare054]

It's a play on "yellow bellied"

[@coolface211]

He is calling Starscream a racial slur 🤝

[@seannoone2474]

@@coolface211 that could be used on him as he is yellow

[@onlycorndog6322]

These games really captured what a horrible tragedy the Great War was. You're not just experiencing a civil war, you're witnessing an incredibly ancient and vibrant civilization completely tear itself apart.

[@Chino56751]

Don't be so dramatic. If the core hadn't been sabotaged, everything could've been fine

[@Man_Aslume]

If megatron took anger management lessons then none of this war would happen ​@@Chino56751

[@Lolpy.]

@@Chino56751 And why was the core sabotaged?

[@Chino56751]

@@Lolpy. Decepticons are evil to a fault

[@korinthegrimm5538]

The planet was still tearing itself apart, not to mention megatron always goes the extra mile to make sure he wins so the core could have always been always been a target@@Chino56751

[@zatodoge9369]

It's a shame we never got a proper sequel to FOC. Never gonna forgive Activision for how they treated High Moon Studios.

[@lutherheggs451]

Ummmm you do know that Fall didn't do well and it was Hasbro who wanted Full Moon off the title right? Because it was literally Hasbro who wanted another studio handing the 3rd game.....It doesn't matter how "great" some people thing FOC was, it didn't sell well and it was buggy as all hell.

[@ironmaster6496]

@@lutherheggs451 Ok smartass you DO inow that the reason High Moon studios didn't do the third one was because they had to make a Deadpool game right? They were pretty much forced by Activision and it were them who made an unexperienced team to make a weird game that mixed the movies with Cybertron. Try to be more informed before trying to basj a game while acting smug about it

[@markss367]

​@@lutherheggs451 fall didnt underpreform That isnt true it infact preformed above expectation The reason no 3rd game happened because activision overworked high moon seeing they had a good streak they tryed to exploit it so they had HM develop the deapool game wich flopped hard thus that being the end for high moon as a independent game maker

[@Gentle1920]

But after Tf Foc was the Tf Prime Series.

[@chilly456]

@@Gentle1920 they meant another game. But in terms of being a story following the events following the game, it doesn't really even fit in properly with the decepticons apparently forgetting about Trypticon and vice versa. They're apart of the same continuity, but only if you squint at it and overlook some details.

[@sharkbyte1565]

The blood curdlin screams of pain and terror The "pull up pull AAAAAHHHHH" and the dialogue "Look at this there's bodies everywhere" "Focus on the ones we can save soilder" Felt like something straight out of a war movie as opposed to a transformers game and I love it It really makes you feel like the autobots are struggling against the cons and paints a dark grim picture of the war

[@techarm7351]

Oh, and did anyone mention the Saving Private Ryan easter egg in the first mission of FOC? An autobot soldier lost an arm and tried to pick it up and put it back in place

[@NightmareTrash88]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@techarm7351i never even noticed that, thats a great easter egg, part of the reason i love the cybertron games they took the violence from games and movies like call of duty and such and put it into the transformers universe, the part that sticks with me especially is that mission where you get taken to kaon prison

[@sk_hermit1809]

You're literally dominating the Autobots in the Decepticon campaign, while you play a struggling Autobot campaign where morale is low and forces are direction less. Heck when the Energon Bridge reactivated again the Autobots were done for, Zeta's death and Omega's defeat is just the cherry on top. If not for Optimus taking command, all of the Autobots would be executed.

[@Alzeal07]

I loved the fact that Earth was in the center of FOC, it's shockwave's portal destination, a place he already went to where he found dinosaurs, a prehistoric earth shown to Cliffjumper in the map room, and that glimpse of hope behind that portal, the destination we as players know they will reach, the place where everything will be settled, but they, as characters, don't know about it yet.

[@Glyph69]

Man a sequel could've been so damn good

[@techarm7351]

Think about it though, that sequel is really G1 and everything after

[@Alzeal07]

@@techarm7351 of course, but still not a game

[@sk_hermit1809]

It would've been so cool if FOC added a post credit scene. Many millions of years later when some random family going vacation and they stumbled upon a giant spaceship filled with 'dead' robots and the scene ends with Bumblebee's eyes flickering online.

[@charmyzard]

@@Glyph69 Far from Cybertron

[@tjswizz]

I think there is lot to be said about the Trypticon's forced transformation into the Nemesis paralleled with Metroplex sacrificing himself to power the Ark. It really cements the ideals of both factions. Whereas the Decepticons will force a (likely incredibly painful) transformation onto one of their own as a payment for perceived failure, the Autobots will literally lie down their own lives if it means their allies and friends could survive to live another day. The writers of these games really got the assignment here and deserve all the praise they get.

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

the WFC/FOC games were probably one of the best revisions of the franchise after the Unicron/micron triolgy and Dreamwave, animated, especially the unique dark-war vibe and the great cybertronian designs,and I appreciate the fact that idw RID 2012 did used a lot of WFC/FOC designs,plus we got some Unicron triolgy designs in it like Armada demolishor, cybertron scattershot and some other characters like slipstream, barricade,we really need to see the FOC/WFC designs to get the best accurcy in the upcoming WFC/FOC studio series toyline

[@legomania2427]

So a video game adaptation of Exiles and Retribution?

[@PansexualDumbass9169]

I really hope that with this new toy line then perhaps that means a new game or maybe a remaster of the two games

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Don't forget prime cartoon. I know aligned continuity is a mess but damn with IDW and animated it is the best universes Transformers ever created.

[@mrzirak792]

@@legomania2427 hmmm hell no. High moon shouldn't make adaptation any of these aligned BS, instead they should make their own plot for 3rd game, it either could happen on Earth, or game could skip this time and do some "Return to Cybertron" stuff and resurrecting Cybertron or something.

[@sulwhale3171]

Wasn’t it part of primeverse

[@heartless2147]

2:15:50 You can actually find Sludge's body in the Jazz and Cliffjumper level, Jazz takes his memory core to find out what Grimlock and his team were doing in the Sea of Rust.

[@RoadRustle]

yeah i know, i just didn't show it cuz it ruined the pacing of the video

[@megatronusorionpax4900]

Yeah wish he mentioned that when discussing Sludge's absence cause there was an in game answer and it wouldn't have really messed with the flow of the video

[@jonathonworner360]

That was truly a sad moment. I wanted to see all the Dinobots present

[@chickenmaster0636]

He actually appears in the follow-up comics

[@joshuavis2736]

@@chickenmaster0636 how’d they actually explain his survival because he was down that hole when all the explosions occured

[@DavidSilva-mn4dz]

The fact that Optimus earns his title, that the bots named him Optimus, Is so endearing. It shows how great he is and an inspiration: if a clerk could learned to fight and is next to Zeta Prime then every civilian could too. Optimus having a cultured background gave him an advantage over megs with the knowledge of history, customs and culture of many places of the planet. Hope some new iterations take further the approach.

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

the fact that the FOC game was released in the same year as armada 10th anniversary,make it even better

[@endersage3514]

Huh, so that's why Demolisher is in the game?

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

@@endersage3514 there was also cybertron scattershot

[@bingisboy]

how.

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

@@bingisboy did you even read the comment ?

[@bingisboy]

@@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 yes, I am trying to imply that Demolishor and Scattershot are not in FOC because it was Armadas 10th anniversary, but because they were re-used assets from WFC, which came out 2 years prior

[@davidwelter4204]

I remember meeting Steve Blum at a Comicon about 5 years ago and telling him that I thought he was amazing as Shockwave. To my surprise, he completely forgot he played Shockwave in these games. He had to pull out his phone and look at gameplay to remember what he even sounded like

[@foxyplayz1399]

Meg's: "Not that he stood a chance against my intelligence!" Breakdown: "Uh Megatron..." Meg's: "What?, WHAT?!" one of my favorite moments in the decepichops campaign and meg's relationship with omega and metroplex Is top humor

[@soundwave-superior7372]

With the Studio Series planning on making figures off of one of these games I can finally immortalise my childhood.

[@cyberfire7191]

While very likely I just want to state it's not been confirmed or suggested that it's the videogame designs while it's very likely and hope it is the game designs theres a tiny chance it refers to the netflix trilogy and I mean tiny chance but I just want everyone to keep there expectations low untill we know for certain so we're not crushed if worse case scenario happens you know? But I'm with you I hope it's the videogame so I can get my hands on physical versions of those designs

[@ltb1345]

Hopefully that'll happen, I always wanted FOC Shockwave and Grimlock.

[@JacobNGames]

@@cyberfire7191 There is no way they would make the WFC trilogy designs AGAIN. I would be so mad.

[@washingmachine5225]

@@cyberfire7191 still it wouldn’t make sense they’d do the WFC Netflix trilogy. The other only option would be the Highmoon games.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

@@cyberfire7191 there's virually no chance they're referring to the Netflix series. Those designs are already based on existing figures.

[@UltimateTS64]

4:14 probably the most random thing to focus on, but I love how right after Optimus talks about Megatron's dangerous level of intelligence he has this eloquent monolog where I had to look up one of the words he used because I've never heard it before 😂. Honestly a prime example of how Transformers has expanded my vocabulary, they've always used a robust vocabulary that made me more interested in learning words and set me on the path to become an English teacher

[@shcdemolisher]

It's in the audio files that was likely cut from early drafts of the story where it was gonna be a bit more narrative driven and character focused. Though some of these are in actual audio logs in the game's final product as collectibles.

[@RedStar441]

I deeply admire Optimus as a character. He’s the inspirational leader yes, but deeper inside he’s the empathetic protecter. He wants to protect everyone so much to an absurd degree. It takes reminding from his team to give him a clearer goal. He just cares so damn much its infectious.

[@jvbutalid8316]

I have only recently realized, that if we tweak Zeta Prime's helmet just a bit, it becomes Galvatron's helmet.

[@jvbutalid8316]

@Atomic Beast more ironic, I guess

[@loonylenny]

You can edit comments

[@jvbutalid8316]

@@loonylenny what do you mean?

[@lilithofthevoid4922]

Just finished the whole vid. Love these 2 games. Something I feel that goes underappreciated is that in the Combaticon levels, you can tell that Onslaught actually cares about his team. He may berate them, but he tells them to brace for impact, gives them orders in a stern but not aggressive way. Like, in WFC, Megatron just doesn't care at all when his troops are dying and he shoots a guy just for disagreeing, but Onslaught makes sure everyone is ok. I just love how close they feel

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

I know right! Finally a stable combaticons even Swindle is invested in the team! XD

[@marley7868]

granted I would like to bring up that guy megs shot got up but still

[@hexthunderbolt1718]

YES! The Combaticons are my favorite Transformers, ESPECIALLY Onslaught! Those levels were amazing and truly showed the skill and effectiveness of just a five-con team!

[@Vidiocity92]

"They're like Ed, Edd, n Eddy" XD that was awesome Loved hearing how passionate you are about these games, and hearing other people's experiences and memories at the end. That's awesome that a game can have that impact

[@dankerbell]

it's true, honestly that level's one of my favourites just because of the seekers' relationship with each other, like when skywarp calls thundercracker ugly even though they all look the same

[@anyderrosek5143]

"this is the moment Megatron became Heisenberg" is a good quote too

[@tritonk1759]

2:51 - 9:09 is one of my favourite things on KZbin, and encapsulates EVERYTHING I love about Transformers.

[@fearful6202]

“Till all are one.” - Metroplex 😢

[@TshepoNkadimeng5]

💔😭

[@Afanof1]

Till all are one

[@hshdjddhd7559]

I think it's cool how Trypticon and Metroplex kind of mirror each other. While the Decepticons basically force Trypticon into becoming the Nemesis, Metroplex willingly gives his life to power the Arc

[@HaydrogenBomb]

That's a great point. (Though, if we're being honest, Metroplex would WRECK Trypticon; he's like twice his size.]

[@v2actingsus]

54:07 “Ah- Is that good or bad?” “Bumblebee, we’re locked inside an enemy prison, surrounded by decepticons bent on our destruction.” “..so it is bad…” “It’s purely a matter of perspective.”

[@kablaaamations2167]

Megatron: *DONT GET HIT BY THE TRAIN YOU FOOLS* also Megatron: *gets obliterated*

[@DEADEYESTUDIO]

lol that’s exactly what happened when I played megatron XD

[@marley7868]

"you got smited asshole" is one the best responses to megatron I've heard in a long time

[@Xaxares]

2:10:00 That Starscream section does a good job to illustrate that, though thoroughly incompetent as a leader, as a solo operative though, he is impressively proficient.

[@skwid6483]

The dynamic between Optimus, Bumblebee and Knuckles the Echidna works really well during the jail chapter

[@coolfightlady2434]

I thought the voice sounded familiar!

[@2bdaqueen268]

Voice actor joke aside Sideswipe is basically a less uptight Knuckles lol

[@TheGrimoiresVoice]

For once, Travis Willingham plays a character who's less of a tank when it comes to pummeling stuff

[@matti.8465]

All II hear is Boom Knuckles, which makes it even better

[@BraveBladeProductions]

This video is incredible! The length, the editing and the commentary are all excellent. This is a video that truly lives up to the quality of the Cybertron Games.

[@RoadRustle]

Thank you!

[@SkyReign777]

@@RoadRustle Wait what bout the Dark Spark?

[@dreed138]

@@SkyReign777 we don't talk about that one

[@SilentShadow423]

@@SkyReign777 do not mention its presence

[@quotastrider801]

1:04:08 a really neat detail is that the healing grenades you can pick up revive ratchet instantly

[@Patobaixinho]

fall of cybertron is a literal masterpiece and is violently underrated and underplayed, i always wished that we got a remaster of it

[@IronForce-ff2qx]

I think making Decepticons start of as a oppressed slave cast is a really good concept. Because unlike how this trope is usually used, it’s not meant to make you question who’s in the right here. No,it’s meant to make you even more disgusted by the Decepticons because of how they managed to become this much worse than the people who oppressed them.

[@jvbutalid8316]

"the slaves of today become the tyrants of tomorrow"

[@LoganLS0]

It also follows real world patterns. Like the Americo-Liberians and Mamalukes.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

@jvbutalid8316 Or the Jews that survived the holocaust went on to create an Apartheid, Racist, Settler Colonial Ethnostate.

[@moonwhooper]

​@jvbutalid8316 where is that from? Good quote

[@halofean]

This is how the blacks and indigenous people in America should've done white people and should in the future

[@neostrax3646]

I like that you incorporate the audio logs in your analysis they are a hidden gem of lore.

[@kool2skipper17]

I think that that adiou file where starscream talks about the bribing of the deceptions is some of the best characterization for him. He would embarrass and denounce a plan he proposed if it means he would ultimately appear smarter or superior than everyone around. He's such a weasel and I love it

[@michaelthesanta3610]

"It's just a silly robot game, you don't need to go too hard" High Moon Studios:

[@SpaceWampa]

1:44:00 my god the clip of Ratchet saying "I need assistance" unlocked a memory

[@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981]

These are nearly flawless interpretations of the Transformers series. Activision should be given capital punishment for what they did to High Moon

[@eur0be4t3r]

One thing I noticed a bit through the Autobot campaign section of the video is the decepticons have more triangular and edgey designs while the autobots have more sphereical and round designs

[@cryptek1225]

Makes sense. The Decepticons thrived on destruction and death, so they’d harmful in any way possible, including making their bodies so. The Autobots were the opposite, peaceful before the war, so they don’t try to hurt by making themselves un-prick-able to touch.

[@poisonpawn6452]

What a miracle Troy Baker pulled giving Jazz that old Scatman Crothers sound and feel.

[@BeeTheTravler]

I remember I used to think jazz in FOC was black because of how well he did Crothers voice as a kid

[@spiritwalkeres9196]

I love how bumblebees voice actor also plays Ichigo kurusaki from Bleach. Very fitting

[@thelegendmaster3935]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelouch_Lamperouge

[@aag2139]

was wondering why he sounded familiar 😂

[@HaydrogenBomb]

As well as Giyu Tomioka from Demon Slayer

[@emperorkumquat]

Whoa! What an amazing video❤ The Decepticons are really so much more evil and awful in the video games vs the novels

[@rk900prototype9]

Yo it’s Emperor Kumquat! I love your videos so much, keep doing your thing

[@concept5631]

Yo its you

[@atompunk456]

the final battle and the ships being ripped apart while being dragged into the portal still gives me goosebumps

[@krishp1104]

as someone who loves bayverse movies, that finale is more cinematic than any final battle. Optimus was so goddamn hard to beat in that fight while playing as Megs

[@WrathfulEel]

As someone who got the privilege to experience the multiplayer and its community I can say it was an amazing experience and I am livid that it got shut down 😔

[@jonathonworner360]

Fall of Cybertron had so many great moments. Like Metroplex smashing Megatron under his gigantic fist, much like how a person would deal with a cockroach

[@wilsere1048]

I'm late to the party, but I always love the genius design behind the dinobots in this game. Not just their actual character design, that's amazing, but how they BECAME Dinobots. Realisitically, it doesn't make sense for transformers to turn into earth creatures, but in FoC, it turns out Shockwave had been studying earth (which we saw in level 4, is still in the age of dinosaurs) and he studied dinosaurs. We learn in room near the end of Grimlock Smash that he was particulary studying the T Rex, Pteradactyl, Triceratops, and Stegosauraus. He says that he wanted to test these creature's biological design on his "Autobot test subjects" which of course, are the captured "Lightning Strike Coalition Force". Grimlock of course being the perfect candidate for the T rex because of his already hulking size and strength. I just thought that was genius, they kept the dinobots and gave a perfectly logical (get it shockwave) and honestly fascinating reason as to why the Dinobots turn into earth animals. They weren't born like that, shockwave made them into that, and in turn made his own destruction because NO ONE. CONTROLS. GRIMLOCK!

[@EnzomusPrime]

RoadRustle, you are one of the best TF KZbinrs out there. I just finished watching the video, and it was like I was playing the game with you. I can't express everything I loved about this video, but know that I enjoyed all 3 hours of it. Your commentary is awesome. Thank you for letting me experience a game I've never played before.

[@RoadRustle]

Thanks, I really appreciate that.

[@medafan53]

War For Cybertron has an interesting place for me becasue it was when I learned I needed to prop my laptop up, I kept trying to play the Megatron Level, and my Laptop kept cutting out, eventually I figured out it was overheating and I needed to give it air to cool it down... so I propped it up on stacks of DVD cases, I also remember Exodus the loose novelization of War; I got it at a train station on the way back from my Mum's beast friend's wedding, and basically read the entire book in one sitting as we were on the train pretty much all day. Outside of that, like everyone else, I loved these games, they are very much part of my cycle of games that I replay again and again. After the Bayverse tie ins that are all... okay but had something missing, they finally knocked the Armada PS2

[@heartless2147]

1:32:12 That axe is Optimus' axe from War for Cybertron, it probably got permanently damaged in-between games.

[@RoadRustle]

I know it's the same axe but I assume Optimus was speaking about Zeta Prime and the axe was just a reminder of WFC in general.

[@CheshireCatMystic]

I feel there can be a good balance between a “grounded” Transformers and the more mystical side of the lore as long as one doesn’t overpower the other.

[@Anton-de5vu]

Breakdown is even funnier when you realize that this is the same guy that was with knockout in transformers prime, dudes bearings finally dropped and now he’s a beast

[@brandoncrutchfield2258]

They really went in on Troy Baker voicing so many different characters lol, I love it.

[@Man_Aslume]

Troy baker The same one who voiced the Jonkler at Man ham origins

[@docvoygx3788]

@@Man_Aslume he voices Joel aswell

[@TFICreations]

It’s always a great time going through these games again, and this video does these stories justice! Thank you for having me be part of this.

[@TYGUY321Films]

Man, both these games really put you through an adventure, huh? But seriously, I will forever cherish these games…you’ve really put a lot of thought into everything you’ve said…and I mean everything. It really goes to show how much of an impact these games have had on the entire Transformers fanbase. I would kill for a third game if that would be possible…

[@just_type_ultra]

These games were really, more than meets the eye. Regret nothing.

[@mojojo0205]

I love as soon as Megatron comes back from the dead, he immediately asks where is Starscream? Knowing what the fool has done

[@gojirafan0577]

Both wfc and foc are absolutely incredible and my favourite games of all time the fact that they are over 10 years old and that the graphics still hold up to this day is just absolutely amazing i am kinda sad we never got a third instalment and with the fallout with hasbro and activision makes it even more unlikely but I’ll still always love these games you can tell that high moon studios made these games with a lot of love of the franchise put into them (little bit of a personal fact these games were actually the first ever things I bought online for my bday)

[@lutherheggs451]

the third game was literally Rise of the Dark Spark. 90% of that game was set in the same universe....Hasbro didn't want Full Moon making a third game because the 2nd didn't do well

[@gojirafan0577]

@@lutherheggs451 but still I would have loved to of seen a game that had taken place after the events of fall of cybertron as the game did technically end on a cliffhanger

[@jdpragmatic8644]

Chapters: 2:50 Backstory, The Early Cycles The War for Cybertron: Decepticons 11:15 Dark Energon 17:52 Fuel of War 22:15 Iacon Destroyed 26:40 My favorite Starscream moment out of both games 30:59 Death of Hope 36:14 The Final Guardian 39:08 “The Transformers will continue after these messages.” Autobots 43:24 Defend Iacon 51:54 Kaon Prison Break 1:02:12 To The Core 1:09:27 Aerial Assault 1:15:29 One Shall Stand The Fall of Cybertron: 1:20:09 Prelude 1:22:02 Exodus 1:27:03 Defend the Ark 1:35:28 Metroplex Heeds the Call 1:39:28 Eye of the Storm 1:43:42 Cut and Run 1:48:44 Belly of the Beast 1:54:45 Combaticons Combine 1:58:29 Megatron Returns 2:03:53 The Final Countdown 2:08:44 Starscream’s Betrayal 2:12:41 Grimlock Smash 2:25:41 Till All Are One 2:30:57 Duel for Cybertron 2:36:11 Closing Thoughts

[@DracoSafarius]

I like to attribute Optimus' redesign, and added bulk/armor, as something that happens after he gets the Matrix and enough time hadn't past after the core section in War for it to change him.

[@freddieawsome1]

"I was highly anticipating watching other people play this game," Relatable to a painful degree.

[@fourthknower9831]

One of the cool part about the Metroplex sequence? You can hear him talking to Optimus as you making your way to his core

[@Daedalus-BC308]

On my first playthrough of FOC, the cutscene where Grimlock eats Sharpshot glitched out so I only heard the audio while the screen was just black. Made it seem even more gruesome ngl.

[@coreymcgivney5897]

This video fucking rules, I haven’t actually been able to play the games but I remember watching the “Game-movie” with all the cutscenes and in-game dialogue for WFC and loved it, so yeah, these games and this video bangs. Also I gotta say, I’m really happy that you pointed out the holes and hypocrisy of Megatron and the deception cause, it’s so easy to just side with the deception movement as a fan but I’m glad that you were able to point out and show that the deceptions were pretty squarely in the wrong

[@Achieme]

Man the games had so much depth from the story to it's characters. Imagine what an actual continuation of the games could've been. And my personal favorite moment out of both games is when Megatron shouts at Omega supreme while saying "do your worst" he sounds like Tony Montana.

[@Whayles]

Damn! Transformers has always been heartfelt and emotional, considering they are giant alien robots, they are very human and relatable. Also imagine being on Cybertron during this, it must have been rough

[@ShadowedOne]

Fall of Cybertron felt like the developers absolutely understood the assignment.

[@josephmachado6081]

I'm glad I sat down and watched this. Boy was it good seeing these games again. I miss them so much, and I never really had the chance to play FoC and only watched countless hours to live vicariously through them. WFC was a very monumental game for me both as a child and now as an adult a decade later, I had sooooo many hours on that game both PS3 version and even the DS versions a few years later. On WFC I replayed that story countless times, and even more time spent on both the multiplayer and my favorite game mode, escalation. I remembered just how much fun I'd have on it, especially on escalation as Shockwave and doing a glitch to fly out the map and go to the png of Cybertron in the distance. I wish I had actually bought FoC on the Xbox One when I had the chance, just to play it. Now. With no real ability to play either, I'm probably going to try to find an Xbox 360 and buy both games no matter the cost. I thank you for letting me relive my childhood and knowing that there are tons of people who truly care for this series.

[@briannaeans6487]

I had these games growing up and that’s when I fell in love with transformers for life. The art style was beautiful and the game play and story was so fun. One thing that I don’t see a lot of people talk about is the game’s multiplayer. It was a really fun and best of all was that you got to make your own autobot and Deceptacon. So it felt like you were playing your own character which was really cool. I really hope that transformer reactivate takes a lot from these games and improves. Also really enjoyed your video!!! Keep up the good work😁👍

[@TheNameBrandCompany]

Excellent video! It’s a shame there aren’t more video essays about TF content! Nice work!

[@RoadRustle]

Thank you!

[@TheNameBrandCompany]

@@metal_fusion oh yeah big fan of those channels. I just meant it’s a shame we don’t have more video essays about TF content in the typical video essay format like this. Like we have hundreds of video essays discussing the MCU and DCEU etc but only a handful of videos about TF. At least in this style

[@orion_paxx]

@@metal_fusion I think this type of video essay is fairly different than those you listed, a big difference is humor, many of them aren’t funny. But here, it’s very clever in its input of dialogue

[@haydenhowell9277]

Ah yes The golden age I seriously want another tf game like this

[@poisonpawn6452]

I literally just finished FOC twice, this time on Steam Deck. Love to see a fellow fan of a favorite game.

[@nyalter5511]

as someone who adores these games with all my heart. thje bit of spliced together backstory at the start was incredible. i loved listening to it and the rest of the vid. glad to see im not the only one who loves these games

[@gunnarredford8261]

2:51-9:07 Bro, they way you just combined all the audio logs together and they way they just flowed through from Ironhide to Onslaught to Clifjumper etc, was just awesome. Think you can make a separate video with just the logs like that? I’d listen to it all day!

[@JeanneCanni]

finally, a REALLY long video about two of the best games EVER made

[@awsomewaver]

Wfc holds a special place in my heart. It was the first game that taught me that i could play video games online against real people. I would spend countless hours playing the multiplayer demo on xbox thill I saved up enough money to get the full game.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

These games were so incredibly cool. You dont have to be a super big Transformers fan, these games can be fun for anyone.

[@zーz]

I was always a fan of transformers. They did not sell this game where I lived so when my parents managed to get a copy for me for my birthday I was completely ecstatic, it even puts me to tears to this day. I distinctly remember not being able to sleep that night, I would get up from my bed and walk over to admire the cover art because I had promised my parents not to play it until the next day. I feel very fortunate and I am incredibly thankful to the designers and the team behind these games. They really outdid themselves and I fear we may never have any games as good as these ever again...

[@lurking5784]

I gotta say I always come back to this video for the way you did an excellent way of putting together the audio logs at the beginning is superb, and I love the way you've had it told the story and all separate opinions, the visuals you've added are another excellent enhancement to that part, the qaulity the rest of the video is held to is just as good as the part one of the best transformers videos I've ever seen thank you.

[@Coolestkid69]

Biggest reason I personally LOVE these games is that FOC and minecraft were the first two games i ever owned. EVER. The coolest ever. Still play it occasionally lol

[@kingster14444]

Wow, you've done it. You've made me care about Transformers. Genuinely an insanely cool pair of games I missed out on growing up

[@zemmo429]

I literally went back from school and watched this straight away without no breaks treating like this as my important class presentation

[@Breadn]

It's so nice seeing these games have a slight resurgence. They were my childhood and never got the recognition they deserved. Such passionate developers aswell.

[@marveler8994]

That intro with the audio logs was beautiful

[@sidewire8777]

It’s great how this video comes out the same time as the studio series WFC toy leaks

[@stevenmoseley7430]

The best Megatron iteration in any universe.

[@athanasiosk9911]

I loved the example with Athens and Sparta you put in the video because I'm greek. Nice video

[@kaleblegat5682]

24:48 literally my favorite interaction in the entire series🤣

[@Pokey_Puni_]

Recently i finished replaying foc after a few years, and it still holds up, felt a lot of nostalgia rush through me when playing the ark level (last level) it was just as awesome as remember it, gonna replay wfc soon.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

This game, and Star wars force unleashed both showed the height of what a game could be. After this graphics became the center of everything, but the graohics in these games were clean..just a little blurry but with so much presence and elements like the lightings, dark energon, lightsabers, space, and fascinating technology, it all made it fit perfectly. I think Transformers Dark of the moon also did similar and had a great game of course with those iconic Bay verse transformer designs.

[@menace275]

God I love the Cybertron games. Dude you earned a subscriber. I didnt play War for Cybertron but I did play Fall of Cybertron: both of those games were phenomenal. Also, I loved your narration, your takes on each level and the way you told the story of the games. To be honest I didnt know the games had such a deep and intricate story, it was only because of your video that I realized that. I admire how the writers and developers actually made an effort to include a strong, interesting story that had tons of great characters: I seriously cant name a single character that did not fit in. The Cybertron games were amazing and I always wondered why they never gained enough attention: they made a cartoon into a cinematic, breathtaking and visually stunning video game experience that never seemed dull or annoying. And, I really appreciate that you took your time to make this video. I watched the whole thing: I didnt skip anything because it was just that fun and interesting to watch. Not a lot of people cover or talk about this game which makes me sad but when I see guys like you talking about it, it just brings me so much joy. The memories I had playing Fall of Cybertron were unforgettable. I remember the first time that I saw Metroplex: I went crazy. Just the sheer size and the way he smashes his enemies into dust. Oh and the multiplayer was extremely fun, I had a lot of good times there. Oh and by the way I love what you did at the end of the video. Fall of Cybertron brought me so much joy and Im glad that Im not alone. And again, thank you so much for making this video: I truly enjoyed it.

[@BrodyW2012]

It would be so cool if we had a game set on completely different worlds like Aquatron and Velocitron

[@gojirafan0577]

I would really wanna see a beast wars centered game in the style of wfc and foc

[@joshfarmer8408]

@@gojirafan0577 or just a game focused on lesser known transformers, like beachcomber, cosmo, or octain

[@gojirafan0577]

@@joshfarmer8408 that would also be cool like a transformers game where you play as characters fans haven’t seen in years

[@jvbutalid8316]

"Are you insane? Ah-uh-I mean, brilliant, Megatron!"

[@HunterKenway]

This was one of the first games I ever owned. I was around 7 or 8 when I was getting invested in Transformers(Thanks Bay) and I had just gotten an Xbox 360 a few months ago for Christmas when I went to my local Gamestop and saw this game on the shelf. It looked cool so I asked my dad if he could buy it, he said yes, and I went home, put the game in, and was immediately amazed by the soundtrack. My father is a musician so I wasn't a stranger to great music but nothing could prepare me for the amazing soundtrack. I pressed start and when I saw the cutscenes, I thought I was watching a movie for a second. The game was awesome and I played it at least 5 times in one year. Thank you creators of the game for bringing us this masterpiece of a video game.

[@chuchupow]

What didn't help the WoC/FoC toys was that this was during the era where Hasbro was starting to cut corners to reduce costs. This meant thinner plastic. It made all the figures feel lighter and flimsy

[@Lunacy4]

War for cybertron toys were badass mostly but yeah the fall of cybertron ones feel like nothing in the hands compared to even movie 1 toys

[@Pigpen_YT]

Outstanding video. Easily the best look at the Cybertron games on youtube. Will 100% be coming back to this for a rewatch a few times. The Cybertron games are extremely special to me and I really wish the multiplayer or at least escalation was still avaible to play. (Ik there's mods for the PC and PS3 versions that bring them back but them being back officially would be nice.) I'm sure others have asked but do you intend to cover Rise of the Dark Spark? As half of that game is technically a midquel taking place between War and Fall? Dark of the Moon the game video would be interesting too since High Moon made that as well. I only ask because your way of talking about/reviewing these games was amazing and I really wanna see this style of video about other Transformers games/media. Keep up the great work king!

[@the.time.capsule.podcast]

Im only 15 mins in and I'm loving every second. The voice log compilation was something I didn't know I needed from the Cybertron VA's. I'm looking forward to the rest of the vid. I thought I was alone in my love for these games.

[@the.time.capsule.podcast]

I just finished the video. What a beast this must've been to make. I don't envy your FCPX timeline haha. Although, I do believe that the Rise of the Dark Spark Cybertron missions deserve a shoutout. They are in between the two games and have some great missions. The Shockwave mission and Jetfire missions being my favorite. I know the RoftDS game as a whole was a bit of a mess but those Cybertron missions really felt good. Not to mention, when you escape as Jazz in FofC, you drive through the boss battle rooms from RoftDS when Shockwave beats the Insecticons. When I replayed FALL and noticed this I thought it was super cool. Especially since you are in those rooms for a about 9 secs before the whole thing floods. The Jetfire mission isn't too interesting as it is satisfying to play. His transformation makes for some great shockwave attacks and evades. It also mirrors WAR when he flies out of Tryp's mouth at the end. Would love to see a small sequel to this vid covering those missions from RISE.

[@RoadRustle]

Thanks - I kinda wanted to keep this focused on High Moon's games story so that's why ROTDS wasn't included plus ROTDS is, from what I've seen, barely consequential to the story. IDK, there's a likelihood i will do one on ROTDS but we'll see.

[@diesel7835]

This is a FANTASTIC video! I absolutely LOVE these games and this is the most in-depth video I've ever watched on the Cybertron games. Well done, sir!

[@RoadRustle]

Thank you!

[@diesel7835]

@@RoadRustle You're welcome. Your video is fantastic. Maybe when I get my KZbin channel going we can talk Transformers sometime! 👍

[@USSWisconsin]

I've always loved jazz's voice in g1, its unique. And when I heard it in the game I was very happy

[@DavidPoddany]

I can’t wait to spend the next nearly 3 hours once again getting to reflect on these games, I never get tired of the Cybertron games🙏