Roar - Christmas Kids

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[@freshnightmares]

that "ill know, ill know" is so haunting. it speaks to a pain in my heart I'm not sure how to articulate. it's bittersweet and I can't stop listening to it, no matter how hard it makes me want to cry

[@scararb]

This is exactly how I feel, I listened to this song for 2 and a half hours yesterday

[@shadzs]

exactly

[@Ss-hi7rj]

No literally.

[@zyrupt]

Noooo because i thought I was the only one who thought so

[@boitumelo2582]

this is EXACTLY how it makes me feel 💀

[@ghanawalktour]

The song tells the story of a woman who was held captive by her husband, with no way out. To make her stay, he went as far as adopting twins as a gift for her. It's a haunting tale of the lengths some people will go to keep control over others, even at the cost of their happiness and freedom. The song captures the woman's pain and longing for a life she knows she deserves but feels powerless to attain. It's a powerful reminder of the importance of recognizing and breaking free from abusive relationships.

[@loveactually167]

Yeah, it is a real story. The two are the album cover, their names are Phil and Ronnie Spector.

[@Rika.g13]

im so glad i brokeup from my toxic relationship

[@blub2422]

yea, the song is probably called christmas kids because phil (the husband) gave those twins to ronnie (the wife) as a christmas present

[@user-wn9po7ww1o]

And yet the songs still a banger.

[@deliatamayo9760]

That is Ronnie spector

[@toelickers]

Guess im gonna be that person this time Ronnie Spector was a singer in the Ronettes under the label Philles Records, which was founded by Phil Spector. After a 2 year affair, Phil divorced his wife and lived with Ronnie in a Beverly Hills mansion. They were married 2 years later in 1968. The relationship was manipulative and abusive. Phil sabotaged Ronnie's career after their marriage and forbade her from performing. He surrounded their home in barbed wire and guard dogs, and took all her shoes to stop her from leaving the house. When he did allow her to go out, she had to drive around with a life-size dummy of Phil. He threatened her with a gun on multiple occasions, and installed a gold coffin with a transparent cover in their basement, telling her that he would kill her and display her corpse if she tried to escape. in 1971, he adopted twin boys and "gifted" them to her on Christmas. He used their lives to threaten her and make sure she wouldn't leave him. She did eventually escape in 1972, barefoot and without any belongings. A long legal battle ensued, where she was unable to perform for money because Phil owned all her tracks. In the end, he was forced to pay her over $1m in royalties, and she was granted custody of their 3 children. In 1982, Ronnie remarried Jonathan Greenfield and had two kids. She wrote a memoir about her life, career, and marriage to Phil. She died on January 12 2022 after battling cancer. She was 78. Phil Spector died in 2021 after spending the last 14 years in prison for a murder he committed in 2003. He was 81. ++ they are the two people on the cover art of this song ☹️.

[@MXGIRL87]

this should be the top comment, Ronnie spector was an amazing woman everyone should know her story

[@Lovekaylapls11]

Heartbreaking omg

[@cleo840]

I love you thank you for being that person. You’re appreciated!

[@sowhat3668]

Thanks a lot for your effort! Sending love ❤

[@TheNameless69420]

what about the kids

[@palomanina123]

After hearing this on tik tok I really loved the chorus but now actually understanding the meaning of the lyrics and hearing the rest of the song, it’s fucking heartbreaking. She didn’t deserve that, poor thing. I’m glad she lived her life to the fullest but it sucks this happened to her

[@fortnitbatl9991]

This song so scrad whan whan whan him say לי you chance your name or your mind i know i know is so scard think about it

[@peanut4223]

​@@fortnitbatl9991 fortnite balls

[@abandonedprofile]

@@peanut4223 all in yo face

[@a_molotok]

hearing that this slaps even more tbh

[@a_molotok]

how do i do real emojis i hate youtube

[@giada5885]

this song actually gives me chills especially after learning the history behind it ,,

[@mr.penguin1480]

What's the history behind it?

[@maritzameza7008]

@@mr.penguin1480 it’s about a women who was pretty much help captive by her husband and he adopted twins as a gift for her to make her stay. Her name was ronnie something I forgot lol it started with an s tho

[@777nikes]

@@maritzameza7008 ronnie spector :)

[@mr.penguin1480]

​@maritzameza7008 wow that's a lot to take in thats sad man

[@catcreepz]

@@mr.penguin1480thats her and her abusive husband in the album cover

[@KittyMuff1n3000]

i feel so bad for ronnie, the fact that she even had to go though what she did is just horrid and insane. im so glad she was able to leave

[@pacybitsopener6422]

what happened

[@boji4504]

@@pacybitsopener6422 I’m pretty sure the song is about a woman named Ronnie kept hostage by her husband and the husband got kids to get her to stay? I saw this by another comment

[@pacybitsopener6422]

@@boji4504 tysm

[@pacybitsopener6422]

​@@boji4504wait is that based on true story?

[@souljaboiiiii8]

@@pacybitsopener6422 i’m pretty sure yes

[@Gelpo_]

Ronnette, my dear, don't ever disappear Do what you want as long as you stay here I need you now, I love you so much, more than you could know The Christmas kids were nothing but a gift And love is a tower where all of us can live You'll change your name, or change your mind And leave this fucked up place behind But I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know Appearing unsightly, with devils inside me If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie I'm leaving, Phil, I'm leaving now I'm going to escape, but you won't know how Or where to find me when I'm gone I'll drink myself to death insi-i-i-i-i-i-ide this prison cell, thi-is prison cell So, get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here You'll change your name, or change your mind And leave this fucked up place behind But I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know

[@luzitorres]

it's so terrible once you actually listen to the lyrics, and see what she really went through. its heartbreaking.

[@puffystrawberrycow]

I honestly didn't know the lyrics but this is actually just shocking that this happened in real life.

[@FranzzzWasTaken]

This song hits so hard that even Lorax is not leaving

[@NeetYeets]

LMAO

[@coolepic519]

true

[@Th3_M4dl4d]

Facts

[@TheTwistedPuppeteer]

ronnie sure did though

[@Mrvitalitytank]

SEWI

[@fajarsodiq3229]

Lyrics: Ronnette, my dear, don't ever disappear Do what you want as long as you stay here I need you now, I love you so much, more than you could know The Christmas kids were nothing but a gift And love is a tower where all of us can live You'll change your name, or change your mind And leave this fucked up place behind But I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know Appearing unsightly, with devils inside me If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie I'm leaving, Phil, I'm leaving now I'm going to escape, but you won't know how Or where to find me when I'm gone I'll drink myself to death insi-i-i-i-i-i-ide this prison cell, thi-is prison cell So, get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here You'll change your name, or change your mind And leave this fucked up place behind But I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know I'll know, I'll know

[@its_imactuallylayzefan]

Ty foo

[@izaylee4447]

Damn

[@liamJKDAT1gamer]

"If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie" Is just very unsetling

[@Neoduck60]

@@liamJKDAT1gamer yea especially with the meaning..

[@liamJKDAT1gamer]

@@Neoduck60 yeah fr

[@777nikes]

this song terrifies me but i can't stop listening to it

[@ester9854]

me too

[@you_gullible_fucc]

Same. It's like a cursed song that's too catchy to stop replaying in my head. I'm glad it's not directly related though like Phil didn't make the song

[@Silly_cat2011]

Same .😕

[@almightysmite]

why are we like this, same

[@trulysanta1793]

poor ronnie, im glad she escaped

[@howlsmovingcastlelover69]

who is ronnie? can you explain whats happening?

[@ran6643]

@@howlsmovingcastlelover69 ronnie is who this song is about. her ex husband trapped her in his house, adopting kids as a christmas gift. you can research the tortures she had trapped in the house and being forbidden to preform again, but needless to say it was insane

[@oliviamalfoy6359]

@@ran6643 is ronnie a character

[@sugarsugar2016]

@@oliviamalfoy6359 no, she’s a real person - look up Ronnie Spector and “Ronnie Spector abuse”

[@minsleepy4466]

​@@oliviamalfoy6359 she was the lead singer of a girl group called the Ronettes! She's a real person not a character

[@vixxybug]

The meaning of the song: The story is about phil and Ronnie Spector, (her being mentioned in the song, also an 60s pop-star,) to cut it short, Phil was abusive to Ronnie, and often threatened her to death if she ever tried to leave him. The lyrics said “You can change your name or change your mind” Because she couldn’t change her name, because everyone knew her as Ronnie. The song is called “Christmas Kids” because Phil Spector adopted 3 children as a Christmas “Gift” and left in 1 bucket to act as a toilet for the kids. He got the kids so he could make Ronnie emotionally attached to them so she wouldn’t leave. He also threatened Ronnie Spector with a gold coffin that he would display her corpse in. He also took her shoe’s so she couldn’t escape that easy. She luckily escaped threw a broken window. Veronica Yvette Bennett. (Her full name) 1943-2022.

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

daaaamn that's fucked up

[@nataliebirfer9545]

it was a glass casket and there was only 2 kids. They birthed the 3rd one i believe

[@hunterbunter2009]

Bro the "if you ever try to leave, I'll find you running.." gave me goosebumps.

[@Connion-1992]

Its actully "Ronnie", the name of the "wife" of phill inspector

[@hunterbunter2009]

@@Connion-1992 oh mb

[@ratankroy]

@@Connion-1992 *Phil Spector

[@Connion-1992]

@@ratankroy shit

[@mammonthedemon]

lol

[@jennifertheegg4779]

I love how on the album cover, ronnie look gorgeous but Phil looks like he just said "you got games on your phone"

[@k-trashradio5163]

It's based on an actual photo of him the man had a creepy face his whole life

[@chipotlesteakbowl3674]

Gotta love the watery vocals. Best way I can describe em

[@omarshams]

The "I'll know I'll know" gives me goosebumps

[@KazuiKurosaki]

So glad I own the vinyl for this album, great that more people are seeing more of roars music. Owen Evans is great

[@lxve.mayyy122]

You should read the backstory, he was not a great guy at all.

[@BigOlEmery]

Are you confusing him with the dude who trapped Ronnie in the basement?

[@KazuiKurosaki]

@@BigOlEmery No what? Lol, Owen Evans is the singer for ROAR, I wasn't talking about Phil

[@BigOlEmery]

@@KazuiKurosaki what did he do?

[@avalynboyle3243]

Owen Evans made this song based off of the Phil Spector and Ronnie spector case.

[@unosocongorra5779]

2010: The story behind it is so sad 2023: *T H E L O R A X L E A V I N G*

[@frostburnice3931]

Wow so sad

[@mariamadiallo6977]

I liked this song until my sister told me the backstory behind this song . Now this gives me the chills😢

[@V0IDFANGZ]

yeah, listening to the song right after seeing the comment on this video talking about the meaning behind it saddens me a lot

[@SpiderRhon.]

@@V0IDFANGZ same

[@safiaamagatos]

I feel sad for her but I still love the song

[@kylemorales9343]

the dark lyrics aside, this bassline is so addicting 🤩

[@lettuceforlife4827]

This song reminds me of my old abusive work place. How all of us became so close because we had to protect each other from management. How fucking manipulative management was. My old boss used to tell me that the grass isn’t greener on the other side. It was his way of saying it doesn’t get better than this job. I was 16 when I started working their and I opened the restaurant with them. I was their first hire. I worked my way from every position in the place. By the time I was 18 I was a bartender. I regret staying as long as I did. It left me so damaged by the end. Everyone I cared about slowly but surely left and I stopped having reasons to stay. I was left in charge of the bar by the end of my employment because we didn’t have a manager for it and all the other bartenders left or where fired. I trained all the new bartenders, I wrote the bar books, I bought the equipment, I trained the new management on how to do stock of the bottles on my last day, I also did inventory. I never complained about the extra work. I took pride in what I did. I cared so much. I never got payed for any of the extra shit I did either and I never asked for more pay. My wake up call was when my manager told me that “ You can’t say this restaurant hasn’t done more for you than you’ve done for it.” I walked out that day without doing my two weeks. I said my goodbyes to the bar staff and the kitchen manager (the only good manager we had) and I told the new manager to not let those fuckers turn her into a monster like them. I still have so much baggage from that experience. This song just captures the manipulation and feelings I had during this time so well.

[@0llie0811]

the meaning is so haunting..i love this song way too much 😭

[@kankrivantsass]

I recently saw a Southpark chef edit to this and I'm bouta cry I miss chef so much

[@stinkyghoulette]

me too 🙁

[@heh4389]

you people are so cringe

[@xiaoliicious]

bro literally

[@kennylover-yc4ml]

ME TOO😭

[@airvents1992]

Same I was literally so sad😢

[@CesarTorres-fu3nc]

''If you ever try to leave me, i'll find you, Ronnie.'' ''I'm leaving Phil, i'm leaving now. I'm going to escape and you won't know how. Or where to find me when i'm gone. I'll drink myself to death inside this prison cell.'' *So the lore this song makes all sense now.*

[@SanDiego_Railfan]

Oh my god it does

[@juliashirokova8374]

"the lore" is irl...

[@CesarTorres-fu3nc]

@@juliashirokova8374 I know i know..

[@0529love]

That “ if you ever try to leave, I will find you Ronnie.” Is so haunting

[@BeanKally]

“I’ll know, I’ll know” hits hard when you know what the song is about

[@engrademafias]

the bass is incredible

[@yung_tron]

when i first heard this song i thought it was just a love song with a hint of darkness, but upon learning the story behind it, holy fuck was i wrong 💀💀💀

[@GrinkMode]

love song 💀 yikes

[@OLD_ACC713]

@@GrinkMode more like abusive jerkface hate song

[@TheSpadeStealer_98]

"Never judge a book by it's cover" is so relevant for this.

[@noodledaddy3234]

This song feels so nostalgic and sad

[@K.C.J]

The amount of people sleeping on this song is TOO MUCH!!

[@mirolike104]

It’s currently everywhere bc it’s trending wtf do you mean nobodies sleeping on this Literally go off yourself bc you don’t even know what you’re talking about get off the internet

[@majora_03]

@@mirolike104 why the actual fuck are u so mad just ignore the comment no need to tell them to off themself.. not trying to be rude to u genuinely please just chill out

[@stanmarsh11111]

are you slow

[@K.C.J]

@@stanmarsh11111 waht

[@K.C.J]

@@stanmarsh11111 How am I slow for saying this track from the album is underrated?

[@beepbeepimasheeep]

every time i listen to it it makes me cry instantly. i don’t think it’s the meaning of it but the vibe of it is just so emotive

[@BorgirLechuga-hk4qg]

cool

[@Neoduck60]

The meaning is about Ronnie and Phil Spector, Phil was an abusive husband that held her captive and even adopted two kids as a gift to make her stay

[@xibalbalon8668]

Even without knowing the meaning, the vibe of this strong always felt self-destructive and melancholic. I think they captured a horrible relationship well

[@Ur.local.dip.shipper.Esther.]

“Appearing unsightly” even roar thinks Phil is ugly

[@stevenfragoza46]

I heard "I'm tearing up slightly"

[@kitsune630]

A lot of people like this song for the chorus, but im super addicted to the first verse for some reason

[@unosocongorra5779]

Me too

[@DaTrainMan]

Same

[@OLD_ACC713]

im addicted to all of it-

[@ThatR1ZZYGL1ZZY]

"If you ever try to leave me, ill find you, ronnie." That gives me chills, if you know the backstory..

[@chriskawaitori2003]

This song reminds me of going to places that have vintage antiques , most specifically ones from the 60s

[@subjectvoid8617]

The really eerie part of the song that always gets me is "If you ever try to leave me, I'll find you, Ronnie"

[@Peanutz09-]

Literally one of my fav songs on my playlist on Spotify

[@menacemaguire335]

This slaps

[@engrademafias]

swears bro

[@Jade_886]

Real

[@Lu.ci4]

Real

[@JvstLex]

Frl

[@OLD_ACC713]

yes

[@user-rx9cj7di7h]

The beat:🤩😀👍 The back story:👹☠️😔☹️🤒

[@almightysmite]

Explanation: Veronica Ronnie Ronnette was the lead singer of the girl group the ronnettes, she was married to Phil Spector, famous by wall sound, Phil was abusive to Ronnie and Ronnie even claimed Phil had a golden coffin in his basement and Phil would kill her if she tried to leave, in Christmas Phil got 2 kids for Ronnie to get her back hence the title (the 2 kids were named Louis and Gary) Phil hid Ronnie’s shoes so she couldn’t escape, she finally signed divorce papers and escaped the man who made her life hell.

[@almightysmite]

pls like it took me so long to make this

[@iwuvayeshaerotica]

This song is terrifying but I love it 💀

[@_EPlCMAN_]

I'll never be the same listening to this song after hearing the lore

[@pepperwithlegs5979]

Same! I used to sing this song with my chest but now I feel like I shouldn’t after learning the story behind it

[@SpiderRhon.]

Same

[@skygirl4616]

After all this time. hearing this song all day, thinking it was about Christmas kids getting out off a town. but it was actually based on a sad sick story about Ronnie. It gives me chills

[@ChaoticDarryyy]

This songs and the other songs from Roar in general give me such, such a strong sense of nostalgia and regret everytime i hear them. Especially this one. My brain just associates every song from Roar with something i regret or a past experience, that just succeeds in haunting me and leaving me sleepless. This, personally is a song i associate with both something from the past, but from the future too. It reminds me firstly of Luz Noceda and her story in the owl house, reminds me of all the friends i had no trouble making but so much trouble keeping. It reminds me of the inevitable future, me finally moving out from this school and going into a better one. I wanted this and nobody seems to even think of missing me. But I'll miss them somehow. I'm not sure if this choice was a good one anymore. Sorry for the long comment but i just had to write this somewhere.

[@frostburnice3931]

JESUS

[@VenetianMapping]

Song: **is about abuse in a relationship** Memes: *l o r a x*

[@keijisauxcord8425]

this song is just perfect. it itches my brain the right way but knowing the backstory of it is so sad at the same song. im glad people are listening to roars music and making it popular

[@-LittleMoth-]

I used to listen to this a lot and hearing it on tiktok recently has bought me back to it :) I love this song ❤️

[@kerokerosene]

i loved this song and 'i cant handle change' and tiktok brought me back to them too

[@-LittleMoth-]

@@kerokerosene yesss I can’t handle change is sooo good 😁

[@danielzorga920]

@@-LittleMoth- the backstory:

[@totally.not.herrrr]

The backstory tho

[@kekwl.1369]

''the fcking lorax grabbing his ass and flying away''

[@Kate-em1kf]

This song hits different when you literally lived thru a DV relationship and my ex would actually say he would unalive me if I ever tried leaving him

[@kexinchen8368]

oh god, are you in a better place now and did you heal from that?

[@the1andonlycakelover57]

I’m sorry you had to go through that, I hope you’re okay now

[@SaunteringMellows]

Is this referencing you or Ronnie Spector?

[@shadooooooostayss]

@@SaunteringMellows they're referencing theyre self and maybe ronnie?? high chance of just being kate

[@SaunteringMellows]

@@shadooooooostayss Shit mb, I didn't read the wording correctly.

[@Drop_Dead_Gergious]

Now knowing the truth of what this song is about brings me chills.

[@portaldogo5829]

GUYS ,GUYS! I FINALLY LISTENED TO THE SONG WITH OUT TEARING UP OR CRYING

[@Daria-qn7xh]

OMG CONGRATS😱😱😱❤️

[@theroyalmemes8611]

Why would you cry over a song that emphasizes the amazingness of the Lorax ❗️❗️❗️

[@portaldogo5829]

@@theroyalmemes8611 it’s the way he flys away that gets me

[@blahaj3730]

OK but how does this affect LeBron's legacy 🤔

[@LYTE_Sameer_f_on_ipad]

@@theroyalmemes8611It had a dark backstory

[@thedoorguy2023]

Damn this song's backstory hits so hard that the Lorax grabbed his ass and ascended to heaven

[@its_imactuallylayzefan]

Bro has ass powers 😢

[@Minittwastaken]

RIP Ronnie, I'm glad she was able to escape and live her best life.

[@Zephose]

The freacking Lorax pinching his back and fying away...

[@hillwoop9101]

**The Lorax leaving**

[@-Papasmurf-]

Backstory of the song is dark, but the song is goated

[@Mctrrt1]

the history behind this is so sad but i will never be able to get lorax leaving out of my head whenever i hear *that* part of the song

[@markusistv6658]

it really shows how poor ronnie is and how phil was so abusive yet so caring its so sad😢

[@0keyd0kei]

I’m sorry but Phil’s face on the cover-

[@rbm_gps3088]

the lorax: 🟠 ☁☁☁☁☁☁☁ 🟠 🎩 the lorax leaving: 🟢

[@frostburnice3931]

Congrats

[@amphibbya]

this makes zero cents

[@TheAncientOneVI]

Imagine if Phil Spector produced this

[@Baldi1999]

Imagine.. he died though a couple years ago. I hope he rots in hell.

[@Supersonic1369_2]

0:20 blud does NOT know the Lorax

[@AttackHelicopter671]

Ronnie didn't deserve this... And that "get me out of here" hits hard

[@metal_pipe9764]

The fact that it's about actual events and people are using it for a lorax meme

[@Mr.Pocket]

It was sad for what the Lorax has went through

[@Inoki_Francae]

True, poor lorax

[@ObamasFork]

Okay, that doesn’t really matter. A song is a song.

[@PrimeGlaxy]

Couldn’t agree more

[@aniboo8668]

@@Mr.Pocket *DUDE*

[@boobies34]

song makes me cry. both the vocals and the meaning behind the song just makes me cry

[@user-pe2jn4kj5s]

I LOVE THE SONGGG

[@broisgaylike8086]

Fr

[@RememberYourSafeword]

this song makes me want to wail like, let out some primal sounds of absolute despair and sadness im going through an awful episode right now and i just want to stop crying but i can’t and it’s so painful. i hurt so much.

[@ruins6686]

when ever you can, let yourself cry. stuffing those emotions in will make the pain worse. it will end one day, and this song will be a distant memory. it will be okay, i believe in you.

[@noahpeek7230]

I ain’t reading allat

[@meniixx]

then dont be a prick and just ignore there comment if you dont have anything nice or helpful to say

[@meniixx]

directed to peek whatever replies aint working

[@DumbAsianDude]

I know the dark meaning of this song,but i can’t stop listening to it

[@Piz33]

i can feel you man

[@natttttttie]

same here

[@Antolin723]

"The Lorax Leaving"

[@Tailsgamereview222]

Bruh

[@PRAYINGMANTIS.]

"If you ever try to leave me I'll find you ronnie" makes me feel some stuff ☹️☹️

[@strwbber1]

You all finally found this blessing!!

[@IAMCHILLOK09]

The part where teh song went "the Christmas kids were nothing but a gift" reminds me of Nostalgic minecraft youtubers and voice actors of some of the minecraft game like minecraft story mode. Rip; LowlevelNoob, Ivor' voice actor, and Technoblade

[@maggotmilk9395]

One minutes you are vibing to the vibes. Now you are having an existential crisis

[@d3nn1z]

bro just listened to this with my mom and she usually likes this type of music but she actually listened to the lyrics and now she’s getting a therapist for me

[@ObamasFork]

Obviously cap but still funny

[@rich29YT]

The song that plays once you graduate high school and you separate from all of your friends

[@thunglaing2918]

my sleep paralysis be like💀

[@Murdertina]

My favorite dark music❤

[@TheGamingTrinity]

This song is what I felt like when I was told that I would pretty much be separated from my friends, since I belonged in a different school.

[@ZBey0]

Hope things r going good, gotta be one of the toughest things to go thru

[@SamanthaRoque-kq3vy]

I LOVE THIS SONG SM ♡♡

[@Batman_B3y0nd]

"If you ever try to leave me ill find you, ronnie. If you ever try to leave me ill find you ronnie. " this line right here left me quiet...

[@asuko-san7440]

The part where it repeats with the you’ll change your name or change your mind and all brings me up such nostalgia

[@timmitytom]

my ex-wife misses me. But her aim is getting better!

[@frustrationcorner6551]

But her aim is getting better!!!

[@ASweetShortCake]

Y’see? It’s funny because marriage is terrible.

[@thilsiktonix]

And the woman in the cover was kept locked in a basement by the man in the cover

[@funtimewithnickandfriends1998]

@@thilsiktonix i-its funny cause marriage is terrible!

[@neocryst]

but her aim is getting better!!

[@ShiningMoon26]

The thing I didn’t know is that the “Christmas kids were a gift,” that part is talking about twins that the husband actually got for her although he still abused her.

[@TheHonoredOne218]

15 year old kid: Mom can we listen to Christmas kid? Mom: Yeah sure! I’m glad you’re in a Christmas Spirit! Kid: 🗿

[@penumbragaming5072]

This is the time where the lorax flies off because you saided a joke really dark that even your friend leaves you

[@quetimporta9]

Man the lorax fly away 😭😭

[@catzonsaturn]

god the south park edits to this song make me wanna cry

[@_avawastaken_]

"You'll change your name, or change your mind, and leave this fcked up place behind, but I'LL KNOW, I'll know.. I'll know I'll know.." BEST PART EVER 😭

[@emilyhenry5849]

I heard this song and wondered the backstory to it and what its meaning is but seeing comments I can see what it's about, and it makes sense. I feel kinda sad seeing how it's based upon a real thing.

[@emmaforeman1929]

an explanation to the lyrics: in 1969, Ronnie Spector, the lead singer of the Ronnettes (a popular band back then) married Phil Spector. Phil was a famous record producer and songwriter, discovering the Beatles, the Ronettes, and many more golden pop stars. Phil was known for his charm, but behind closed doors he was a horrible husband. He essentially held ronnie captive in his mansion. He hid her shoes at night so she couldn’t run away, as well as lining the property with barbed wire fences and guard dogs. The scariest of these precautions, perhaps, was the golden coffin he kept in the basement. He threatened to kill ronnie and bury her in the coffin if she tried to escape. The only time she could leave the mansion was once a month, to go to the store for menstrual care products along with an appointed body guard. Ronnie lived this was for a long time, until one day, seemingly out of the blue, Phil comes home with two twin boys. Ronnie asked him who they were, and Phil replied “Merry Christmas!” hence the title-“christmas kids”. Phil had adopted the two boys without and consent from Ronnie, who became their mother. While Ronnie became a mom, hers was becoming worried. She had lost all contact with her beloved daughter. The details are fuzzy, and I am unsure how it happened, but somehow Ronnie’s mother freed her from her prison. The boys went back to their biological father, and Ronnie and Phil got a divorce in 1978. Phil forced her to give up a lot of money, and threatened her life with hitmen he had hired. although Ronnie is dead now, the horrors she went through will not be forgotten. Phil went on to murder actress Lana Clarkson in the same mansion in 2003. he was sentenced to only 19 years in prison. Ronnie tragically passed away due to cancer on January 13, 2022. Phil spector died on January 16, 2021.

[@thatgurlbabb8977]

Damn she didnt deserve all that

[@I_eat_soap12]

She really didn't deserve this kind of stuff

[@thejollydude1907]

This is the 6th time I'm actually becoming glad that people died. Ronnie didn't deserve that and Phil Spector should suck nuts for eternity

[@metal_pipe9764]

And people are using that on the scene with the lorax leaving

[@kallimoon8023]

Lyrics Ronnette my dear, dont dissapear Do what you want as long as you stay here I need you now i love you so much more you could know The christmas kids were nothing but a gift And love is tower where all of us can live You'lll change your name or change your Mind and leave this fucked up place behind But i'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know Appearing unsightly, with devils inside me If you ever try to leave me i will find you ronnie If you ever try to leave me i will find you ronnie If you ever try to leave me i will find you ronnie If you ever try to leave me i will find you ronnie Im leaving phil, im leaving now im going to escape But you wont know how Oh where to find me when im gone? I will drink my self to death inside This prison cell this prison cell So get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here Get me out of here You'll change your name, Or change your mind And leave this fucked up place behind But i'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know I'll know i'll know

[@EvilBemmyBlox]

my friends leaving cuz i went to far on a joke* me The lorax The lorax leaving

[@waltmyman]

Other people: writing long paragraphs about the meaning of the song Me: *lorac*

[@Mr.Pocket]

Sad Lorax moments 2023

[@jakecoste4800]

lorac

[@oikawaisagod7930]

This song reminds me of the toxic relationship I have with my mother, no matter how much I try to get away from her or distance myself she always manages to break me all over again. I cut my hair to make her angry out of spite, I changed my identity, but I still cant escape her.

[@fuicide]

im so sorry i hope youre doing better now...

[@alinavonschweetz3065]

do you live away from her ????

[@oikawaisagod7930]

@@alinavonschweetz3065 no, I still live with her because I'm not old enough to move out yet

[@themanwhowouldbebrick]

Why not call cps or the police

[@zahfiramaruzo506]

Same

[@darknotefalilvtopic]

For people who are lost this song is ahout an abusive relationship about music producer phil spector and ronnie frome the ronnets phill threated to end her if she ever left him and he threatend her with many physical tourture and by christmas kids hes talking about when he adopted kids on Christmas for her but he abused his kids too she left him and he later went to jail for murder (thats whole diffrent story) but people shouldn't remember her from her sad past they should remember her by her being an amazing music maker and also she says she misses the days her and phill made music together (meaning phill still has a spot in her heart)

[@thatesteban09]

*The lorax leaving*

[@twotime_buttercups]

Funny thing. I was obsessed with this song when I had a crush on my soon to be abusive boyfriend. And was still obsessed when we were together,, little did I realize and less likely to be excited about was that this song was almost like speaking my future. Kinda funny but at the same time, this song exactly describes how horrible it felt to be with him. Yet again this an amazing and well written song

[@OroDentroGaming]

Thanks for your private info

[@zlch4021]

I wonder if Ronnie Spector ever heard this song before she died. The emotions this could have brought back to her 🖤

[@crashigerlp]

The animals leaving Me trying to get them back Me sad The lorax The lorax leaving

[@sebziez]

This song as some might know is about Ronnie Spector(Her and her ex husband are on the album cover btw!), now i've always loved her music, with the Ronettes and her solo stuff that had failed. i also got her memoir, the song is basically about the time she met Phil Spector, her record producer who she had an affair with and married because "Either you tour with the beatles or you marry me", she was so much in love with him, so of course she married, so the ronettes had to get someone else to go on the tour. While Ronnie married Spector, over the years he was losing his sanity, he kept her away from her sister Estelle a lot and her cousin Nedra, he threatend her with a gun, he threatend the beatles with a gun, he shot in the studio from what i heard, and he kept her captive in his mansion, surrounded with barbed wire and guard dogs and FORBIDDING her to perform ever again and sabotaged her career, he was extremely abusive, yelled at her for days for even asking "Hey Phil wanna go back to the studio?". Phil had said he would put her in a golden glass coffin if she ever attemped to escape him, as for the title "Christmas kids", it refrences the fact Phil had surprised her with 2 kids for christmas, which i believe was to force her to stay with him even more. Ronnie was only able to leave the house by having A LIFE SIZED DOLL of Phil. she even attended alcoholics anonymous just to get out of that house. The abuse had gone on for years until she made her escape with her being able to call her mother, barefoot and no belongings, just running to survive. 1972 was her escape. However it wasn't over. Ronnie had a long legal battle because in the 60's she NEVER gained royalties from spector. She had won later on and then she would try living her life, which was a massive struggle, she was alone, her sister Estelle from the Ronettes was schizo, a homeless drug addict, her cousin Nedra was a born again christian and wasn't much around Ronnie i'm sure, She was friends with big names, yet she never was able to regain her fame she once had no matter what she did, her alcohol and smoking had also worn out her voice over the years just to find distractions to get rid of the trauma even after remarrying with Jonathan Greenfield(her present time husband) and having children of her own. Meanwhile her sister lived homeless, drug addict and a schizophrenic. Estelle passed away in 2009 from cancer and Ronnie passed away from cancer in 2022, they both were close sisters yet so far apart after the split up from the ronettes and their life issues. Nedra Talley Ross is the last living member of The Ronettes. I will never forget that day personally because she was stunning, she even talked with me once and saying "Your mother raised you right", never forgetting that, she was an angel.