ROASTING STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE

[@Nxrth2001]

Dalinar: You're my SISTER, NAVANI! Navani: Its not incest if you say No Chromo.

[@Hadrian1616]

😂

[@fenrirzen]

not his sister... so... everything is allriiiightt

[@Hadrian1616]

What ArE YoU DoiNG sTeP-BrO??

[@Nxrth2001]

@@fenrirzen nOt bY bLOoD

[@Nxrth2001]

@Abhi Prakash l Chromo meaning chromosome here

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

What makes Shallan less likable than the rest of the main characters is due to her character choices. But, honestly, those choices paint her flaws and strengths in a way that is unique to the other characters. Her internal struggles with identity are seldom a theme people tend to like. It touches on many "cringey" things, but that's what makes her character much more organic. 3rd book rocked her character upside down but I know that means there's more for her to develop. Personally, she's the character I most relate to with Renarin a close second.

[@tanisha5709]

Shallan isn't my favorite either, a lot of her struggles are also relatable to me but in the context that I worked through those things years ago. That kind of makes her boring to me because I'm not getting anything new from her arc, and that's on top of not liking her personality. I can totally understand why a lot of people enjoy her though. I love Renarin too though and I want more of his perspective!

[@cartergreen2309]

Yeah her choices are why I'm not that big on her but I totally agree with what you said. It shows her flaws and is very unique. Thats also why I don't actually mind that I dont like her that much. Its different. Well put!

[@kvereensr1]

I didn't like Shallon the first whole book because I know too many people like her in the first book. She only becomes interesting to me because of the personas in book two and three.

[@cartergreen2309]

@@kvereensr1 thats actually the main reason I don't like the character much lol but I'm glad to hear someone has the complete opposite reaction to that part of the character and likes it!!

[@Mightyjordy]

Honestly I hate Shallan because she reminds me of a girl I dated that always tried to be the most funny person in the room and it made me insane.

[@jareddavis554]

Unsubscribed. Dislike of Adolin isn’t allowed. Jk by the way but seriously I don’t know how you can dislike Adolin. He is such a nice guy and you can see him changing.

[@nataliaweronikapetersson3425]

Agreed. At first I also disliked Adolin calling Kaladin "bridgeboy" but by the end of Oathbringer it turned into a nickname of sorts- a reluctant admission of Adolin that Kaladin is freakin' awesome and Adolin is actually second best in many respects. Apart from that Adolin is a good guy, no sign of him being a conceited princeling.

[@platowannabe]

Yeah. Adolin is not privileged in the derogatory sense. He actually is one of those characters that deserves it. He is talented, charming and good hearted. Only reason to dislike him is a jealousy because it comes easy for him but that is a reflection of the jealous person, not Adolin

[@Eli-234]

I don't mind Adolin, but I will say that calling Kaladin "bridgeboy" is kinda weird. It's almost like using the N word.

[@mattbinkowski2095]

@@nataliaweronikapetersson3425 I dislike how easy it is for adolin. Kalladan was struggling with murdering a king and adolin kills a high prince with little to no consequences.

[@SashyyKane]

Adolins just rlly nuanced tbh theres a lot more to him then just that egoistical privileged bastard (he actually isnt really like that), he just gets jelly easily

[@saugatthapa7859]

Can we just take a moment to discuss how everyone calls kaladin a bridge boy. Even shallan calls him bridge boy.

[@Eli-234]

Yeah I find it kinda messed up. It was a derogatory word that he was called while a slave, Kinda like the N word.

[@KevinHarvey-YT]

Is it not used like a term of endearment by now ? Like we call you bridge boy but we ALL know you are so much more?

[@mattbinkowski2095]

@@KevinHarvey-YT no shallan and adolin mostly used it condescending ly.

[@ryankong8713]

Yeah, it is pretty messed up. Imagine constantly reminded of the worst time of your life, in which you almost killed your self and fought tooth-and-nail for even a hope of salvation. Honestly, the word should trigger a lot more from Kaladin than annoyance. I’d be throwing hands or be close to breaking down at mentions of Bridge Duty, so it does kinda suck that some of the cast use it so lightly.

[@ThanatoselNyx]

@@mattbinkowski2095 no they don't.

[@ducky36F]

I think I liked Words of Radiance the best 🤔

[@sixseasonsandamoviee]

@@hobbitholebooks832 WOR is my favourite too, but i do prefer the climax of oathbringer. enjoy reading!

[@nataliaweronikapetersson3425]

I liked all three books in a different way. I honestly can't pick a favourite.

[@WoWhunter007]

No wonder. It's literally the highest rated book in the world.

[@davidanthony2553]

Renarian is similar to spook in mistborn in the first book. I feel Sanderson intentionally makes social awkward characters who will end up doing heroic things in important parts of his major cosmere books

[@ebnovels]

I think that’s probably very accurate!

[@brightskysyl3913]

RENARIN FTW! TRUTHWATCHERS FTW!

[@Mattfreeman89]

I call that "Gohan-ing"

[@Urzaden]

Technically he has several repeating trope characters like his love of making a bookish female character. I think it was war breaker, elantris, and Stormlight that he made characters all very similar. Don't quote me on that, it has been a while since I read them. That being said I still feel like the characters seem fresh to me each time, they are similar but unique.

[@isaakvandaalen3899]

Love Stormlight Archives because the characters feel like real people, with flaws like real people. I disagree with your assessment of Adolin. I can't say that he's my favourite character, but in terms of his privilege he's actually not too bad. I don't want to rant too long about this, so I'ma just say this; Adolin has had a very privileged upbringing, perhaps one of the most privileged of his generation, yet despite this he still acts primarily out of duty to his family and the people that he is responsible to protect, as the son of the Blackthorn. He is a good person at heart, and does not act out of greed or selfishness, but rather out of a desire to see the world become a better place. Yes, he is cocky and arrogant at times, but given his position and upbringing, it would be more shocking to me if a child who was raised from birth with the expectation of being an important person *wasn't* cocky and self-assured. I mean, he was a kid too, a kid who everyone showed respect to because his father was the mf Blackthorn, his uncle was the mf King, and storms help the man who upsets 5 year old Adolin. Given that, Adolin probably could've turned out much worse than he is, not that I think he's bad.

[@DL-idk]

Can't agree more. He probably has never seen things from the lower class prospective and I can't blame him for being ignorant, because who isn't? Everyone could be ignorant and locked down in their own prospectives-Kaladin had been stuck in that lighteye resenting mode for so long and I won't say it's any better than Adolin's arrogant (hatred could be very dangerous, no matter how much it is justified). It's not Adolin's fault that he's so privileged and not his fault either that many others are not. Just like it's not Kaladin's fault that his eyes are dark.

[@laiaal.3324]

Agree. I also really like his reaction to slowly realizing he is not as powerful as everyone made him believe all his live (mostly in Oathbringer). Instead of sulking he still tries to do his best and help as much as he can and I think that is really admirable

[@ToriTalks2]

I love Adolin. 💜💜💜

[@derekdurst9216]

And once he meets Kaladin and actually gets to know him, he realizes how darkeyes are just normal people. And he befriends Drehy and Skar after they save him in WoR. I love Adolin.

[@whosaidthat84]

I never imagined anyone could dislike Adolin. Sometimes he got mildly annoying in WoR because of the way he treated Kaladin but Kal came back at him with some good insults and ultimately they became bros. And he freaking killed Sadeas!

[@nataliaweronikapetersson3425]

I do not like any romance in Stormlight Archive to be honest, but this is not the reason why I read and love those books :)

[@Mightyjordy]

I agree. At first I thought Sanderson just didn’t write romance well after reading reckoners, stormlight and mistborn, but I’m reading Warbreaker and I’m actually a huge fan of the romance in that one.

[@Urzaden]

Yea I was freaking out when it looked like he was trying to make a love triangle with Adolin, Shallan, and Kaladin. I really hate the idea of that, mostly because I despise Shallan.

[@ankushnishad1165]

I seriously feel Oathbringer should have been longer because there were many interactions between characters and smaller events that were brushed off to focus on more plot important events. I'll give some examples so spoiler warning. Like Jasnah's arrival felt a little underwhelming, she was just there and started doing things, nothing significant between her and Kaladin, considering the number of radiants it's not unreasonable to expect a little bit more interaction. Even after so many parties coming together in Urithru everyone mostly stayed in their own circle and split off in different directions. Also after the final battle a lot of things happened quickly in background like Szeth joining them etc, I wanted that more fleshed out. I read it at release so it's been some time, there were a couple other things i forgot.

[@ebnovels]

I 100% agree about Jasnah. I’ve mentioned in my “books I wish were longer” video that whole thing!

[@cobaltobject1855]

Adolin literally held his whole family together for years as a teenager while Dalinar was a being a useless, abusive alcoholic. He's definitely privileged in a lot of ways, but don't act like he always had it easy

[@ebnovels]

No one always has it easy; everyone has struggles. I find him incredibly annoying regardless.

[@daniel.tufeanu]

There are people who absolutely love Shallan! We exist 😂 or at least I do 😅 but seriously, she's a serious life inspiration for me, Shallan is one of those characters that I feel it's "written" exactly to me, to my taste, like Shai, like Lift, like Wayne and to a small degree like Stephen from Legion

[@julienmason2769]

I feel the same! It makes me so sad when no one else loves Shallan like I do because her character and her arc are the most impactful, and well developed in the book IMO. I love Shallan, and I wish I could share in that love with someone

[@daniel.tufeanu]

Like I think the people who hate on her don't or can't understand her, and it's not a good point to judge. She's the most real and relateable character for me 😅

[@kvereensr1]

Personally that is Kallidin to me. I dislike Shallan but it's mostly because I know too many girls like Shallon and those type of people always rub me the wrong way. What I am talking about is the quirky girl stereotype, when she started working more out of that stereotype she became better but I still have a dislike for her because I absolutely despised her the entire first book.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

2 years late, but yeah I quite like her. People always say she's the weak point of the way of kings in particular, but she was actually the pov character I enjoyed the most in that book.

[@Nxrth2001]

My chemistry grades remind me of Adolin and Shallan's relationship. A big fat zero.

[@Nxrth2001]

@@ammalyrical5646 I'm fine with romance, I'm only roasting for fun. I didn't see any romance development that's all. Kaladin and Dalinar take up all my time, don't care about Shallan cuz the other two are too good.

[@Nxrth2001]

@@ammalyrical5646 lol my chem grades arent bad either, it was just funny. I actually like the books, and submitted a lot of funny roasts. Sorry they didn't get featured, so put em in the comments

[@derekdurst9216]

Ammalyrical I think that they actually do have pretty decent chemistry. Not the best, but better than 0. And times are different so I don’t think you can apply modern day ideas of when someone becomes of age to a fictional world.

[@Nxrth2001]

@@derekdurst9216 yeah. They're okay. I don't really care about the romance when there are big swords and epic battles and flying knights involved.

[@whosaidthat84]

@@ammalyrical5646 I know some cultures would have girls married off at 13-15 years old or when they develop "women's" bodies. I feel ya that Shallan is quite young but at least Adolin has only about 5 years on her. It would be too weird if it was 10 years

[@JimWilbourne]

Lift is a chaotic neutral character and feels like archetype you might more often find in manga and anime. I think viewing it through that prism helps you understand her as a character more and why she behaves the way that she does. Also, reading Edgedancer makes her personality make a lot more sense. Also, pancakes aren't specifically what you might think. There are pancakes all around our world and they are very different than the sugar-filled American breakfast food. So maybe that'll help you make sense of her pancake love. Especially since she's a character who literally gets her power from food. In short: I think lift is great. But I definitely get why others don't like her. Chaotic neutral characters aren't normal in most fiction. It makes us uncomfortable because we can't pin them down.

[@vellichor7676]

Not gonna lie, your dislike of Adolin escapes me lol... I love Adolin, I felt like he was largely an exception to the lighteye reputation. Now, Shallan... I inwardly groan each time a chapter begins and she's the POV.

[@devinfisher3278]

After learning of Lift's visit with the Nightwatcher, I think she instantly became more compelling. She asked not to change, and I think her curse is remaining a child, in a child-like state, forever. Her boon is to have the ability to change everything around her with her abilities, but she remains the same. I don't think we ever really know how old she is (or how long she's been alive rather) and I wouldn't be surprised to find out she's been around well beyond what her physical appearance implies.

[@becklebooks]

I find your hate of Adolin hilarious (in the way you reacted), not cos it's unfounded! I just found, on rereading Way of Kings in the past week, that I now adore Adolin. You can see his growth is gradual, that the prejudices he's grown up with are part of who he is but he's slowly logic-ing his way into being a better person. "What is life, what is magic, I like to draw" is the PERFECT, most hilarious way to describe Shallan. I almost spat my tea. Basically all of these characters have become my babies upon rereading Way of Kings. Except Moash, I'm of the 'he can roast' camp, hahahaha!

[@duncanregan4447]

Saying Kaladin’s viewpoint in WOK is boring is wild haha. I think his stuff is by far the most interesting in that book. Dalinar and Adolin’s story in that book grew on me, but I really couldn’t get into Shallan until WOR. Her character just didn’t interest me until it became higher stakes.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Opposite for me.

[@Jaylono0]

I adore Lift so much, Her and Shallan can do no wrong.

[@davidanthony2553]

Lift is awesome . Her habits make her one of the stand out characters in the series

[@julienmason2769]

I agree, she’s like a breath of fresh air in a sea of depression lol. No one but Lift can be truly happy in Stormlight 😂

[@ToriTalks2]

I can’t stand Lift! The way she was introduced was basically 26 pages of her being a total brat. And I’m a big fan of Adolin. Maybe I’ll do a whole video about why, lol. 💜

[@couchpotatoe91]

Yes! Her book should've been called 'edgy dancer'. I was honestly really disappointed, to me she comes across as one of these D&D characters that break the immersion because the player behind her wants to draw all this attention with "haha, am I not funny?", "this campaign is boooring!" and "do we have snacks left?" while having the sickest luck with dice ("oh look, natural 20 again!"), resulting in the player never having to make the difficult decisions the campaign is supposed to force you in. Or that poker player that plays for the first time, goes all in with 2 and 5 because you go easy and play without actual stakes only to say "oh well, I guess I've lost" at the end before players point out that she has actually won because she has a straight.

[@GuardianKnightoftheRealm]

I feel that comment about Sanderson's writing being boring and chaotic at the same time. His writing is straightforward and I'd even say lacklustre in its prosaic style, but its also chaotic in that he will often add in a couple sentences describing something that is not the focus of the paragraph its in. He does it often enough that it feel like he's really jumping around, adding in tiny bits of world building at seemingly random places, and it can seem very chaotic to me. I'd rather a full paragraph or two describing/world building, then move on.

[@JessieMaeBooks]

OMG YOU HATE ADOLIN?!? Hahaha he’s such a sweet little cinnamon roll and must be protected at all costs ❤️😂 haha no I totally get the criticisms! That makes sense! But Kaladin is the best. 🥰 Shallan is fascinating, she is super flawed but I love her for it, I just hope the best for her haha LOL the Mickey Mouse comment was so out of left field that it just had me cracking up 🤣

[@Aidadsgaming]

I thought me really liking Shallan’s character was an unpopular opinion.. hahaha

[@scootskute]

If you couple the fact that Lift is street urchin and by circumstance would often find herself hungry, and the fact that she is unique in her ability to metabolize food into Stormlight, making herself even more hungry by becoming awesome, you might be a little more accepting of her food infatuation. Her insulting oath is to call someone starvin' because that is one of the worst thing she knows. She takes food to survive and has has made it a game or challenge to take food from those in better circumstances, kings at the top of the list.

[@LEOrgill]

I’m currently reading Oathbringer. My favorite so far is The Way Of Kings. My problem with Words of Radiance is Shallan’s arc. I didn’t feel like her actions match up with her character and her decisions are so illogical. It drives me nuts that she doesn’t think things through. But I LOVED her interactions with Kaladin.

[@ebnovels]

I liked reading her backstory, but she definitely makes some interesting decisions!

[@OrionSeas]

I think Shallan's decisions in Words of Radiance can sometimes be frustrating as a reader, because we can see things from a different angle. But I think a lot of it can be explained or accepted if you look at it as she's trying to become the "grown up" version of herself that she thinks she needs to be. She kind of gets thrown into/throws herself into a much bigger world than she's prepared to handle.

[@nasteho6614]

That Mickey Mouse and Kaladin comment killed me. I am gonna have to read all his sections in a Mickey mouse voice now

[@Clockwork0nions]

3:00 YES! I’m just about to start ROW, and so far my biggest complaint about the series has been that they all feel like they could be several hundred pages shorter.

[@josephmoore5041]

I'm like falling apart cause I've been pronouncing half the names wrong in my head 😢😢😢

[@ebnovels]

Haha, it’s like having your world flipped upside down.

[@scootskute]

Brandon refuses to answer questions about pronunciation. His take is that you get to be the director of whatever you are reading, and that includes much more than pronunciation. In skirting the answer he has shared the story of one of his friends telling about how on his mind Thom (a Wheel of Time character) doesn't have a mustache even though he is often describes as blowing air out through his mustache. Imagine it, pronounce it, and direct it in a way that you enjoy it.

[@nikkisweezea2388]

@@scootskute I had a similar experience recently rereading The Dresden Files ahead of Peace Talks. In my mind, the Carpenters were always a black family. Michael looks like Idris Elba. Imagine my shock when he shows up for the first time this reread tall, thin and blonde. Like, where did I even get that?

[@OrionSeas]

Me but with Rock. Through the entire TWoK I imagined him as a big, burly guy with super dark skin. When I realized that Horneaters tend to be on the paler side I got all shook. I've been able to adapt my overall image of the Horneaters to be closer to the canon descriptions, but I still think of Rock as pretty dark

[@scootskute]

@@OrionSeas, same. I thought of him as a traditional large poly with dark skin, rounded but muscular features, long black hair . . . Wait, he has red hair, damn! Now I have to turn him into a chiseled large, lean, and muscular Irish or Scotsman. The blend doesn't work very well, so my image toggles between the two with no in-between.

[@avanz2885]

My biggest thing about Adolin was he had no character development as the series went on. In the early books although he's thoughts and character was formed by the society, you can see that without the discipline of the father to act responsibly at all time and the influence of his mother to add levity and compassion, he could have been quite monstrous as the High Prince's heir and King's nephew. I love that Sanderson was not PC and didn't shy away from the power dynamics of a warrior society with noblity, soliders, servants and slaves. If this was grimdark you know what the highborn/lighteyes would be doing with impunity...

[@lucaleone4331]

Im definitely huge Shallan fan. Im not sure why people would dislike her so. I love that she is one of the only plots where we see the powers of this world be used for something other than fighting. Her point of view is always refreshing to me. I think its why I like Book 2 the most.

[@DL-idk]

Unpopular opinion: I like pattern more than Syl

[@ebnovels]

How dare you! :P

[@DL-idk]

Come fight me! Lol

[@TimFrie-GD]

Pattern is absolutely best spren boy!

[@blakejackson5340]

mmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmm

[@couchpotatoe91]

I sometimes cringe with Syl because she falls into this manic-pixie-dreamgirl territory. Like she's this character that I don't even have to look it up to know that there's r34 stuff out there between her and Kaladin. I wish I could not have these thoughts and just enjoy her character as I read.

[@jordanneal576]

I heard that Rhythm of War is going to be the longest yet

[@ViperRT99]

The only thing that makes Kalodin's POVs bearable is Syl. Without her in them, I might have killed MYSELF by now.

[@melrosebooks]

Lift is one of my favorite characters, but I do admit that came after reading Edgedancer (which also explains the pancake stuff). She has a Peter Pan complex, which explains her hyper childishness, although there are hints that she is growing up. I cheered when she showed up in Oathbringer and I’m pretty sure she has a higher purpose that no one will see coming.

[@ebnovels]

I’ve read Edgedancer-that’s what I was referring to :)

[@GaaMacgfx]

I love how this was people roasting stormlgiht archive and you defending the series 😂

[@Tylertized]

Please do a part 2! This was so fun!

[@balrajsingh1492]

Roast the name of the wind, Dresden files....oooh roast mistborn!

[@aoi6075]

I love Shallan, I learned to love her... and what Moash did. His judgement was blinded and he should suffer the consequences. Adolin grew so much.

[@kyleeclawson2581]

Is it common knowledge among the fandom that Renarin has autism? That’s why he seems so socially awkward sometimes. I love Renarin and I hope we see a lot more of him in the upcoming books.

[@nikkisweezea2388]

I don't think he has autism so much as he was just a sickly child and was never socialized because he couldn't do normal boy child stuff with Dalinar and Adolin. I could be wrong, though. Has Brandon ever confirmed one way or the other? The only time I'm heard him talk about an autistic character was the one in Elantris.

[@BurntheJacket]

At first, I didn't enjoy Shallan's POV in "The Way of Kings" until the end when she speaks her first truth. The interest in her life spiked so hard

[@SHISUIAFTERDARK]

We just got word from him that Rhythm of War is longer than all of the previous StormLight Books. twitter.com/brandsanderson/status/1279212882060734464?s=21 Also he just finished the Final Draft. twitter.com/brandsanderson/status/1282194268883316736?s=21

[@balrajsingh1492]

I read warbreaker and it was fine... Should I read mistborn now or stormlight archive....I have ordered way of kings and words of radiance... So can I start stormlight without reading mistborn...??? I want to start stormlight first because I guess mistborn can be underwhelming, unless u tell me I absolutely can't.

[@daniel.tufeanu]

You can start with Stormlight, people generally recommend Mistborn because it's shorter and easier to digest, as in the Way of Kings the beginning can be a little slow and confusing, so it's best to already have some trust in Brandon, as all the threads connect and pieces fall together progressively

[@sixseasonsandamoviee]

you dont need to read mistborn before stormlight but in my opinion, reading mistborn makes you trust the author more. that is important because stormlight is slower and has a higher learning curve. plus they are 1000 pages long books so you have to approach them with a different midset or you end up feeling thye are too long or they have unnecessary details. reading mistborn makes you trust Brandon enough that the pay off of reading those behemoth books would be well rewarded. Just my opinion.

[@tanyam928]

Stormlight would be better to read after Warbreaker. Some characters from WB show up later in SL even though they are on different worlds. Mistborn won't connect much at all. I liked it but it is separate from SL for now, once each story progresses further than he will connect them. There are a few things that would make more sense, like if you know the magic from MB then you would pick up on one easter egg where a character uses the magic to manipulate another character's emotions. And if you know characters really well from MB then you will recognize a few very minor characters that show up from it. But those things are very minor. The connections with Warbreaker are bigger, but they won't show up until Words of Radiance and Oathbringer.

[@OrionSeas]

@@tanyam928 Wait, I totally missed those MB Easter eggs! Can you put up a spoiler warning and point them out to me?

[@tanyam928]

@Hunter McDonnell If you really want to find Easter eggs and all the connections, I would recommend reading Secret History and also looking up the 17th Shard website. They have a forums section where people post and discuss theories or any cosmere topic, which will be very active when the new book comes out. They also have the Coppermind which you can look up any Brandon character, world, book, etc and see all info about them compiled. And another good resource on there is under Arcanum which contains the interviews and posts that Brandon has made about his works, called Words of Brandon (WOBs). The 17th Shard also has a KZbin page where they have a podcast that is good to learn more. **Spoilers... So if you read Secret History then it shows how Hoid/Wit takes a bead and eats it at the Well of Ascension, that is what gives him full Allomancy. There is a scene where Wit is speaking to Shallan's father and puts something in his drink, its bits of metal that he burns and then uses emotional Allomancy. The characters Demoux and Felt are worldhoppers and show up on Roshar. In a letter written by Hoid he mentions Ati, which is the name of the man that took up the shard of Ruin (where the name of the metal atium comes from). In another letter he is writing to other Shards and one he is communicating with is Harmony/Sazed. Brandon has also said that there is a kandra worldhopper somewhere on Roshar and to look out for them. The metal that they use to block themselves from being found in Oathbringer is aluminum which is shown in MB to be inert if tried to burn in Allomancy. And the woman in the Ghostbloods that always wears a mask is a descendant of the people on the Southern continent from Mistborn Era 2. There are a lot of little things you can find the more you look that will have more meaning if you are more familiar with each world in the Cosmere.

[@thomasmiller8289]

Ok here we go - my tongue in cheek roasts: Shallan exists for Brandon to insert his worst puns into the books. (Well, and Hoid, but that's obvious ;P ) Starting another Sanderson series? Get ready for the fight scene that breaks down the magic system. (I swear this is why I can't get my wife past the first chapter of a Sanderson novel.)

[@ducksducksducks1884]

I started reading stormlight in fifth grade with no context cuz my classmate gushed to me about how it was better than percy Jackson and Harry Potter combined,,, so yes the rock cliff thing was very relatable

[@julienmason2769]

This killed me

[@loriannwhite8384]

OCD: Why Is The Way Of Kings below the 2 & 3 book?

[@literarythrills806]

I read the first 2 SA books and I think I need to just give up on the series. I liked them but they’re too long and too much of a commitment for me to just like them 🤷‍♂️😢 I’m so disappointed because Mistborn is my favorite trilogy ever

[@brightskysyl3913]

Perhaps you didn't connect to any of the characters that's why you're hesitant to commit. And that's okay. I, on the other hand, will continue because I love Renarin so much and I want to know how he develops as a character.

[@gloria5334]

Aww, the "haters" have been kind with this roasting. 😆

[@elcee8]

I love Adolin, but I hate it when both Adolin and Shallan call Kaladin bridgeboy because it comes across as very elitist and classist

[@OrionSeas]

I think that's kind of the point, at least from the start. Adolin doesn't trust him and Shallan doesn't like him. Adolin sees him as impudent and disrespectful, so he intentionally chooses to talk down to him to show him what he thinks. And he's partly justified in this opinion: Kaladin *does* tend to defy command structure and has a prejudice against lighteyes that leads him to disrespect all of them. Shallan and he get off on the wrong foot, so to speak, and they have no reason to like each other until they begin to understand one another. Since she's betrothed to Adolin it makes sense that she joins him in calling him bridgeboy. I don't like it, because it's unkind and I want them to treat each other better, especially once they start to become friends. There's a point that I remember asking myself why they still call him that because it doesn't make sense to me anymore, but I think part of it is that not as much time has actually passed as it seems and it's still sort of a habit. Just because they're *good* people doesn't mean they're always *nice* people.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Once they become friends, I don't think ''bridgeboy'' is meant as an insult anymore, and I don't think Kaladin is bothered by it.

[@sepantafathi3093]

Im a 1000 pages into the way of kings and its awsom im loving it but it feels like i know nothing of the plot magic or anything im hoping to get a good payoff if not i will be very mad.

[@OrionSeas]

Brandon Sanderson has acknowledged that The Way of Kings is one of his slowest books as far as pacing goes. He starts to dig much deeper into the magic system in book 2.

[@hanarielgodlike9283]

SO REFRESHING TO SEE SOMEONE SHARE MY TOUGHTS ON ADOLIN!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!

[@brookelawrence6740]

if someone wants to attack Renarin I offer to fight you

[@sophiachristodoulou8678]

I'd love to see a part two!

[@maverick8520]

Al is gonna be the first person to bring a blade back to life and you guys are smack talking him?? For shame.....

[@RoyLol1987]

I love Lift! I really hope we get a lot more of her in RoW. I also love Adolin and Shallan is my second favorite character in the series after Kaladin. So hard disagree on almost everything in this video. Moash can choke on a shardblade though.

[@BurntheJacket]

"I think he could trim a little..." i.e. Some/all of Adolin's bits

[@davidanthony2553]

I hope you will one day do a review for ken Liu s Dandelion dynasty books

[@clarkkentnaruto4322]

Your husband is too funny. I have not read or listened to the Stormlight Archive yet, but I want to now,. So many series to work on, so little time. I haven't even read the Sword of Kaigen yet. Also, I found out that Audible has recorded book 3 of the Ninth Rain series. Hopefully, they will be recording the first 2 books now.

[@barbershopbible]

I love Lift. She matches my excited energy that I override my negative attitude with. Really just so much fun to see how she thinks about things.

[@sentient.ball.of.stardust]

So it's ok for Kaladin to hate and despise a whole rank of people simply because they were born into it, but not ok for Adolin to display some very very mild prejudice for another rank of people even when it's shown again and again how he is the change. Yeah sure, makes sense.

[@andrewmmbogori8339]

Good to hear that there's a deadhouse gates review coming..

[@stefanmccall1588]

Shallan is definitely my least favorite character in the series.

[@cartergreen2309]

Hard agree but I do still find parts of her story interesting so I guess job well done by brandon by still making me somewhat invested in a character I don't really like that much

[@sophiasthoughts]

I actually was joking, don't worry. Although Oathbringer could have been two books I think to give more time to Shadesmar - so I basically want that one basically both longer and shorter

[@ebnovels]

I definitely wish we’d had more with Shadesmar...even though that part simultaneously felt like it dragged? That whole part was strange 😆

[@sophiasthoughts]

@@ebnovels I know exactly what you mean!

[@jamesprothro7442]

Do a part 2! This made me laugh my whole lunch break!

[@cinnamonsugartoast1428]

Can’t be the only one that thinks lift is actually like 30 or something but didn’t want to age so she went to that person that gives you like a wish and a curse of whatever and the curse or was it called a boon? I forgot anyways was the curse boon thingy like all the food she eats turns into stormlight so she can’t grow? Idk but I always thought that ( I haven’t read it In like a month and my memory of books always trash unless I reread the book so sorry if somethings wrong)

[@angeluzgomez789]

I'm new, but I would love to see a whole video of you hating adolin. It will be so funny. HAHAHAHA

[@Urzaden]

Here is my controversial / highly disputed opinion. But first SPOILERS!!!! Brandon's rewrite of the Kaladin, Szeth fight was a terrible idea, it doesn't fit were Kaladin was as a character, Killing to protect was still something that was OK in his mind at this point, it takes away from the sacrifice Rock made at the end of book 3, and it makes Kaladin way worse. In the first iteration Kaladin accidentally stabs Szeth because he was expecting him to parry, unfortunate but understandable in a fight for your life. In the rewrite Kaladin cuts off his hand making Szeth lose his ability to fly and rather than holding him and letting him down gently he drops him in a high storm hundreds of feet in the air to chase after a sword. The first one was accidental the second was prioritizing a weapon over life.

[@bethanynystrand2375]

Oooh this was almost too painful. But so much fun. 😂

[@RiashadHassan]

I've never read any fantasy epic. I wanna start though Should I start with the Stormlight Archive?

[@MariaKryvohub]

No, you should start with the Archive. Not Mistborn. What the hell, guys?

[@shannonvermeulen9111]

It was my first epic and it was easy for me to get through. So do so if you wish

[@tanyam928]

There are minor easter eggs that will be fun to find between the different series but none of them are so big that it means that you have to read them in any order. The different series take place on different planets in the "cosmere." The technical chronological order would be Elantris, Emperor's Soul, first Mistborn trilogy, Warbreaker, Shadows for Silence, Stormlight Archive, Wax and Wayne era Mistborn, and then Sixth of Dusk. Mistborn and Stormlight are the big series, the others are smaller, standalones. I would recommend Warbreaker and then Stormlight, but you can read them in any order really. Hope you like them too!

[@scorpian221]

Unless you have read a lot of epic fantasy start there

[@MariaKryvohub]

@Apoorv Mathur Well, maybe I'm saying this just because I started with Archive, but for me it makes sense to just start with the best... Although, maybe it IS hard for someone who just starting to read high fantasy.

[@Abunchaponys]

Spoilers below................................................................................................................................I typically think adolin likes Kaladin and treats him like a younger brother really. Examples would be joking with him and stay in prison with him along with the celebration giving him shard plate and a sword. Renarian has an evil spren attached to him I believe? So he will be important in the future.

[@georgia5049]

Pattern is MY FAVORITE!

[@siddhishah6515]

Honestly, I get the hate on Adolin because he seems privileged and a bit boring, but I know he understands how much effort it takes to be a highprince. Like when he was talking to Azure, he mentions how duty is serving the greater good rather than yourself. Additionally, he had worked hard to get where he is at... he has won his own shard plates in duels and has trained for years. He’s become the best in dueling and although this happened because of his privileges, it’s hard to deny it.

[@DryBooks]

Adolin is privileged, but I like him because I get to see him change and get better. Lots of people love Dalinar and he is nowhere near a saint but because we get him AFTER his change, we have no problems? Lol, sorry, but I agree, more love to Adolin!

[@ebnovels]

Haha, well, while I think Dalinar is cool in some ways, I kinda think he needs to die. So...I guess I don’t love him either 😆

[@loriannwhite8384]

Elliot Brooks Hahahah.

[@sanyamkalra4]

Is it necessary to start with something like mistborn or elantris because i don't feel like reading them but i really want to read way of kings.

[@masi1167]

No, seperate series with subtle connections only. Mistborn is really awesome though.

[@ducky36F]

Not necessary at all. It’s just generally recommended because they are quicker reads. They aren’t really related.

[@Nxrth2001]

I read Warbreaker, and then Way of Kings. But you can read that first, and read Warbreaker before starting Oathbringer.

[@laiaal.3324]

@@Nxrth2001 You even can read Oathbringer without reading Warbreaker, there is people not interested in the connections between books and the book can be equally enjoyed

[@Nxrth2001]

@@laiaal.3324 You can, but h mentioned the other books so I assume he wants to read the cosmere entirely at some point.

[@Joshua.zero29]

Why stop at part 2??

[@lucaleone4331]

I feel like its obvious why you SHOULD like Kaladin. Its just the typical hero. With Adolin theres more nuance. Plus youre right, he does come from privilege but what I like is HOW he uses that privilege and is still a good guy. Lets be honest, we can actually learn and take things from Adolins story and use him as a model for ourselves. Especially in a time like now during Black Lives Matter and other scenarios. None of us will be in Kaladins position. Raised in a above average home to be a doctor but instead joining the army, where your family dies and you are saved by a magic fairy and have untold godly powers? Its a cool character and story. But Adolins is realistic. (well as much as you can in a fantasy story lol) I feel like he only treats Kaladin badly bc Kaladin is kinda a butt, AND he feels like he cant trust Kaladin because he thinks hes hiding something...which Kaladin is. lol so, I would take that argument to defend Adolin any day :)

[@Nxrth2001]

Shallan was already an annoying chick, and then Sanderson decided to make her into 3 different people. Goddamn it.

[@miztercasuall3718]

My problem with kaladin is that he is down all the f**ing time I loved him in way of kings and words of radiance but being depressed in his character works for a time but for all of the books can .really. he at least be happy for one book .

[@tanyam928]

I never liked Moash either! And how does Kaladin "talk like Mickey Mouse" exactly? lol

[@mischarowe]

I'm still trying to decide whether or not to read any Sanderson books, so this helps. ... Kind of. I'd love a part 2. ;)

[@dancerJulie77]

You should definitely try reading some of his books. I'd recommend starting with Warbreaker because its a stand alone, so it isn't a huge commitment. Even his YA stuff is very good. The Rithmatist, or Skyward are also good spots to start.

[@mischarowe]

@@dancerJulie77 That actually sounds really great. The size of his books is always a concern for me, but a standalone could work to get started. Thanks so much. :)

[@ebnovels]

Of his YA books, I actually personally wouldn’t read Steelheart first. I think it represents the worst of Sanderson’s writing. I do agree about Warbreaker, though, and the Rithmatist is fantastic :)

[@mischarowe]

@@ebnovels It's something to think of. Thanks. :)

[@ambale455]

I want a part 2!

[@tjl594]

I love when you do roasts/unpopular opinions because it's so funny 😂 Xcatherinereads is amazing! Her content is hilarious and she loves Sanderson too

[@Tylertized]

Rhythm of War is going to be slightly longer than Oathbringer 😂😂

[@MrCyberMuffin]

I'd say that Adolin is the good kind of privileged. It's not his fault for being born up high, but he learns, grows, and respects now light and darkeyes. He also goes to parties/drink with his men.

[@safinan8008]

Cute video.. I luv Brandon Sanderson books. Keep safe

[@riakm921]

Oooo, Deadhouse Gates review incoming :)

[@sillypuppy5940]

Ah, now you're talking! The Chain of Dogs plot thread is one of the highlights of the series.

[@Ailvara]

A video about why you hate Adolin sounds super interesting!

[@fightingirish5755]

Oathbringer sort of feels like the Return of the Jedi of Stormlight. Its generally acknowledged to be the weakest of the first three books but is still very much beloved and there's a massive group of fans within the base who think of it as their favourite.

[@Aldric524]

I know this is an ancient comment, but I couldn't help responding a year later, since I'm one of that "massive group of fans" that Oathbringer is their favorite. The ending is just so utterly epic, basically all of part 5. My favorite stormlight books pre-RoW was exactly reverse to Eliot's. It went Oathbringer, WoR, WoK. Post RoW it's probably O, WoR, RoW, WoK. I don't dislike WoK by any means, but there was so much worldbuilding since it was a first book, and it felt a bit draggy to me. Granted on rereads I like it more than when I read it the first time.

[@kennethpayne8331]

From what I can remember Lift it a child. The night mother or whatever keep her small. She says that or thinks it i can't remember. Ot toward the end of the book in a fight sine

[@ebnovels]

Definitely a child, yes.

[@jamesbaird1342]

I'm reading book 1 with other reads life expectancy is 72 years right? Really not my favorite genre . I remember in college hearing that Chekhov always wanted to write a full length novel but couldn't. I wonder if Sanderson thinks he would like to write a short story but can't.

[@najeebhq]

I think we can safely say RoW won't be 600 pages, being 460,000 words long

[@isaiah952]

Part 2?? Yes please!

[@lavaleenlund9274]

Jasnah she was ok in the first book but when she comes into oathbringer she acts like everyone should bow to her. The way she treats Shallan isn't good.

[@marylowrie4548]

Imagining Kaladin's lines in the voice of Mickey Mouse. It is a strange experience.

[@CurieBohr]

Adolin is awesome. When he put himself in jail to back kaladin it sealed that opinion. Action over words. Most people say the right things and take the wrong actions (shallan)

[@lilyschubert2635]

Oof. Yo Adolin, do want some stormlight to heal that burn? Oh wait..😬

[@Rhendali]

YAAAAAASSSS! So glad I'm not the only one to hate Shallan and Lift.

[@davidhamilton676]

Uh. Hating Adolin is like saying you hate puppies and sunshine. Do you also hate Mr Rogers?

[@potionseller2083]

Bro Oathbringer is the best one. Dalinar is the greatest character

[@Mightyjordy]

I really don’t like Lift (though I actually don’t mind her in Oathbringer). Wendyl is amazing though. I think they’re so much better together. Edge dancer was so hard to get through.

[@FloorD604]

only thing about 1k page books oftentimes they could be 3-5 books if they broke them up