This Annoying Beginner Independence Problem 😫 And How To Fix It ✅

[@ifilmalways7122]

All drummers deal with independence.. Def a huge obstacle for nearly everyone I know but practice defeats all!

[@Luk04G]

Even goes for all two handed instruments, i play piano and holy sht it was hard

[@dustinford18]

I gave up on drumming because i couldn’t get the independence. I’m here now.

[@Schism404]

I am literally on my first day of starting to learn drums and your lesson immediately gave me the ability to break the cycle of my right hand and foot following each other. Thank you! I have a lot to learn but so far this was the most frustrating thing!

[@sa1laway]

Roughly 10,000 hours of practice before I begin to hear and possibly play a smooth groove, having just retired at the age of 67, two hours a day of practice I will be 82 years old at that point. The goal now is to survive the marathon. I intend to go out with a bang, .......crash out laying on the floor, snared on my Tom.🤟😁

[@cliffsmith1305]

DOOO IT !😁!

[@ant-zf7pk]

ur a legend m8

[@terrymiller111]

Get it, Pop-Pop!

[@tommo3378]

Yes! You’ll feel great

[@travobaltazarmusic]

Do covers

[@MarkDobbs697]

Thanks for all the help Beatdown!

[@MatrockRecords]

Love that he apologized to the snare at the beginning.

[@BryceRobinson-s2x]

This seriously helped me!!! I went at least 5 months with not being able to keep my right foot and right hand separated and I watched this video and hours later I can play doubles even triples with my foot while my right hand keeps an 8th beat. Thank you

[@johnbaker3375]

You have a gift for teaching Rob. I took lessons back in the 80's from a very, very good drummer. The problem was he wasn't a very good teacher. He assumed I knew things he was talking about when I didn't, showed me things instead of taking the time to make sure I understood them. I ended up being completely overwhelmed and discouraged. Now I'm turning fifty in a few months and am picking up the drums again after a thirty year layoff. I have been researching online instructors, I plan on picking two or three to follow instruction from. You are the best teacher I've come across by far. You keep it simple and fun without making the lesson feel like a chore. You explain things very well and you inspire me to believe I can start over and do things right this time around. I used to hate practicing, you've made me love it. Thank you so much.

[@akshgpt7]

9:44 first exercise 11:04 second exercise 12:24 third exercise

[@2ysur]

thanks so much

[@2613-l3l]

Took man 9 mins to get to the point

[@prod.bydiaz6998]

nah the whole vid helps

[@akshgpt7]

Bro they're just timestamps for practicing later

[@prod.bydiaz6998]

@@akshgpt7 i was talking to homeboy 2613

[@5150engr]

I love this guy as a teacher. I hope his channel blows up.

[@rhythmantic]

Yea, I like playing that stuff that you played at the intro. Love 16th notes but especially 32nd note grooves and after drumming for 56 years that’s what I’m challenged with. What I dig about your’s and other drummers who demonstrate how not to play something is that you can actually play it- that’s quite challenging. Good job Rob as always- you’re a gifted instructor.

[@jamesmoran7511]

I bet nobody in the band likes 32nd notes. Sure way to get asked but to come back. Rule 1 is simple. Play less

[@69zenos1]

I'm not a drum instructor...but one thing I tell beginners is...learn to RELAX when playing. It helps a whole lot.

[@stephenryan2676]

I think thats sound advice for any single thing in the world ur trynna learn

[@anthonyhumphreys2935]

Got to profess how amazingly helpful this video was. I’m a beginner with basic ability, and zero independence of limbs, until I watched this. Been doing the exercises for an hour and I’ve gotten so much better already. So pleased - cheers Rob.

[@emmanueljimenez7921]

Other foo’steaching drums : “Your independence is getting better just keep practicing man” Rob: “your independence sucks, but ima show you how to fix it”

[@HarakiriRock]

You know someone's a badass drummer when they can build an epic groove using just kick, snare, and hi hat. I've recognized my lack of independence as a major road block and it's driving me crazy. Gonna start practicing these exercises asap. Thanks for the lessons man.

[@rogerwelsh2335]

Awesome presentation of the material. You’re a true teacher. You can flat out play, but that’s not what’s making you a great teacher. Lots of incredible players who can’t teach. Not bashing those guys because teaching is a skill. You got that skill. I could go on and on about what makes your lessons work so well for people studying with you but there is no need to because everybody that comes back to you already knows it. Im not a beginner but watched anyway because I wanted to know your approach to independence because I knew your take on this problem would help me approach some other aspect of where I have problems. Practice is obviously indispensable. But the ideas are as critical. How to think about something how to mentally approach something. You can practice all you want and still struggle. Many times it’s looking at something in a different way. I only developed the that basic level of independence shown in this video through frustration and way to much time and effort. I know that if I would have had this video I would not have been frustrated, I wouldn’t have had days of feeling depressed that I would forever suck and it would have come together for me much quicker. Thanks for the work you put into this. I personally appreciate you and it also amazes me how there are people like you who sacrifice their time and money to just help a fellow drummer. Whether you know it or not, I think you are one of the most important people in the entire professional drum world today. If the was a compiled list made by any industry journal or publication your name should be on it

[@stefanradev6172]

Well said, man...

[@notEggsLamar]

Well said friend!

[@zangified0117]

Indeed man👍🏾

[@stuartbrown8309]

Woke up this morning, thinking I’m going to practise limb independence and see this video! Brilliant stuff

[@annon6904]

i was 21 when I started playing drums and now i am at my 60s. What 40 years of drumming didnt teach me this video has done it in 15 mins. Bravo

[@justinsymanietz2844]

I have only been playing for a few months and this was one of the first problems I recognized that I wanted to fix straight off. I used When the Levee Breaks as a model. Thanks for the exercises, these are great! Going to practice them now.

[@kellyt5187]

Exact same here!

[@bruce1947]

Wow that is the single most helpful thing i've ever seen. Within about 20 seconds my drumming improved by about 5% percent.

[@christopherhoffman481]

Only at 2:00, speechless, truely a master at work! One of my greatest source of inspiration, after Jeff that is! Rob, you THE man! U the reason I picked up drums again! Much love n respect!✌👌

[@Chiroman527]

Chris. Agreed, Rob is the man. He makes it look so easy. Love the way he delivers the message

[@butchcassidy3373]

One of the best drummer's I know used to be one of the best guitar player I had ever heard. So go for it.

[@midplanewanderer9507]

The best teachers know how to impart useful drills that are _musical_ as well. You are definitely one of them, Mr. Brown. Those first two runs have such _wicked_ groove-potential right there; but the concept didn't properly start carving itself into my brain and spinal cord until I slowed the tempo waaaaay down. Like, waking up still blind-drunk-in-a-strange-dark-room, slow. Took about 40 minutes to get up-to speed, for the initial 're-programming' to 'take.' Your lessons are freaky-addictive! Glad I found your channel. You're a helluva teacher!

[@Britt-q1q]

Thanks to you, my air drumming skills have improved drastically 😂 I'm a guitar player, seriously considering getting a drum set.

[@rogerwelsh2335]

Just get one. Drums are the only instrument out there were you have incredible fun from the very 1st time you sit down. It’s the only instrument that you don’t have to be go at to enjoy. In no time you can put headphones on and start playing many songs. You don’t have to learn songs beat for beat, or note for note like other instruments. You can always dumb down a song to your level so you can still enjoy playing songs easily. You will not ever regret getting a drum set. I ask people all the time... how many ex piano and guitar players are there in the world. Then ask them how many ex drummers. Drummers are always drummers. Yeah we’ve all had times maybe where did play due to certain reasons but we always were still drummers and we always come back to it. Drummers play for fun. With most other instruments, people played it for a specific reason and don’t touch the instrument unless for that reason like high school band, recitals, my parents made me, etc. I can’t count the people I know who played an instrument but weirdly aren’t in love with that instrument. They would choose to sit down and play it for the fun of it.

[@joshualewis8077]

Nikki Britt You have the Jerome Flood kit right now 😂😂

[@lotharluder2743]

I am a Guitarplayer. But sometimes I think I am a Drummer. Since I got a drumset 3 years ago already it is also effekting my guitarplaying positiv.

[@andthoseotherguys]

I've played guitar long than I care to admit. Had drums for years but just recently started sitting behind them when no one else wanted to. They are fun. And Rob is the best teacher I've come across on YT. The others are alright for tips...but lessons...I stick with this guy.

[@9C85-g4b]

I have been playing guitar for 40 years, and drums for less than 10. I got started with a cheap acoustic kit, got decent cymbals and drumheads, and eventually got decent enough to do a few gigs, but now I play for pure pleasure. I have just bought an electronic kit so I can go to the garage play any time I want. I hardly play guitar at all these days.

[@MendedFuzz]

Brilliant! That made it so much easier to grasp.

[@notEggsLamar]

Rob, I feel like you've been watching me play drums or something 😂😂😂😂 every problem has been plauging me since I started playing, cant wait to try out these tips! Thanks for making this content, I truly appreciate your instruction and you always inspire me to learn more!

[@NineElmsTrucker]

100% agree with that David! 😂

[@Kathanis]

I had this issue for a bit and discovered this trick on my own, but stopped playing for a couple months because I didn’t think I was teaching myself correctly. Glad to see I was right! Can’t wait to use these example practices you showed us, this is the one thing that’s really given me a hard time

[@patrickkirwan2870]

Love this for my beginner daughter (and myself)!!!! Absolutely fantastic. Would love to see a video on independent left foot hi-hat work. Thanks for what you do, man. You are making a difference in the beautiful world of music!!

[@MrMctwisted]

Well that cowbell just blew my mind. Wow. What a concept. Thank you so much

[@AUGUSTIN-MUSIC]

As someone who has never payed attention to drums at all… watching you play in the beginning all I can say is just… *GAMN!!!* that is INCREDIBLE! You make it look SO SMOOTH!!! 😅😅😅

[@melinae4919]

Out of all this beginner drumming videos I’ve seen this is by far the best one. Thank you!

[@jonasbarry8979]

The most useable info in a very affordable amount of time. Top notch clarity. Your approach is entertaining but more importantly it is very engaging. I leave feeling like I owe it to myself to work on your lesson. And kinda like I owe it to you too lol

[@timholzheuer]

Mr. Brown, thank you so much for your videos. I love them! I started drumming again with the age of 40 and a brake for 25 years. I surched for practice videos and find yours. You are my coach now. Greets from Germany.

[@avitolourenco]

Literally did the first tip, and I mastered double off kicks in 10 mins playing for just a week prior

[@kirbywallace7547]

0:45 - That's *exactly* why I clicked on this video. LOL. Thanks

[@jimvinelli7114]

Thx Rob! always loved percussion. 56 years old and finally giving drums a try. Your beginner are very helpful!

[@cliffsmith1305]

Same boat :-)

[@zbqb84a]

Man, your delivery is second to none. Love these videos.

[@aarondozier4101]

Mannnn...Rob, you're too cool dude....when you dropped that wood block at the end of 7:30....all I could do was laugh!!! Great stuff bro!

[@jdon_mac]

wow - I'm self taught for 23 years but this came on via autoplay. I remember being 10 years old and imagining I was hitting another hihat on the upstrokes to fix this. it worked! thanks for the nostalgia :D

[@craigphilpot1440]

Subscribed. You're an amazing teacher. Played the piano for 22 years, professionally for 5 and I always struggled with hand independence. Only painful repetition allowed me to gain some independence but it never came as naturally to me as I would have liked. Always been amazed by drummers and their easygoing abilities with timing and doing opposite things with different hands, and always wanted to take up drums myself. This video gives me hope. Thanks man!

[@Levi89723]

What did you do to get hand independence?

[@spencerorr4374]

@@Levi89723 He told you, painful repetition. That’s all it will ever be.

[@Capguyyy]

I have been playing for nine months on the kit and i couldn't get my right foot independent from my right hand. That first exercise gave me complete separation. Hats off to you Rob Brown. Definetely subscribing.

[@StrongOakTree]

I'm having a hard time following the instruction. Can you elaborate on the first exercise? Thank you.

[@kingskidgirl2]

I'm brand new to all of this; I just started playing about 3 weeks ago. I had to slooooow waaaaaaaay doooooown in order to break the 'tie' between my right hand and right foot, but that finally worked. Patience... definitely! I'm looking forward to trying these exercises. Thanks! 😃

[@amishadowbanned6264]

Any more advice or updates I'm struggling with this too

[@froggy_boy_kermuttt41]

@@amishadowbanned6264 I've only had drums for 2 days, I recommend learning how to play the main part on snuff by slipknot. Find a video that's just the drumming part and slow it all the way down to 0.5x speed. I learned after a few hours and it really helped my independence

[@neonrecording]

Lol when i saw the arrows on the right hand and right foot in the thumbnail, I knew I was clicking on the right video lol This is so great! Thanks! Subbed , and will be back for more once I get this down lol😅

[@nathanielnicholson559]

I've been playing for 35 years and your approach and delivery are always like an epiphany, fresh and new. So glad you're doing this for us all. seeing you playing live has become a goal for me. Sick, sick, sick.

[@ShadowXero]

I NEEDED this video badly. It gets annoying when my arm and leg syncs up. Thank you so much.

[@2ndAveScents]

Most valuable drum lesson on the internet for me so far. Just got my e-kit and haven’t played in 12 years and probably only played 12 hours maybe 10 times before so I’m starting over basically. I’ve been looking for a video on independence that made it click for me and just you showing your understanding of what’s happening showed me you’d have have the answer to fix it

[@gothic8]

I'm sure you know my wife tried to contact you on your page. She knows you are my "Drum Hero"! Dude this is not just for new drummers at all! It helps me with my recovery from my knee surgeries all day long and fits into multiple drum bounce sequences. You are the best! Thank you so many ways....... for so many people!

[@devolta]

I stayed because you said my independence sucks. Because it does. Great lesson. Thank you.

[@scotts8985]

thanks for this! I had my FIRST drum lesson last night at 50 years old. Drum lover my entire life. My instructor was testing me to see where I was at and I got hung up precisely with this. This will be very helpful.

[@jabedoben]

I've been struggling with this for years, and you made it so simple to get it right. Thanks, Rob. Your vids are amazing.

[@jath810]

I've always wanted to play so I recently picked up drums. At 57. My independence totally sucks. Beats and fills go pretty well, but anytime you throw in quarter rides it all goes to hell. Practice and patience! I'm picking up a lot of good tips from your videos, thanks man!

[@TheWaveFiles]

That 1st exercice was so in the pocket that when the snare enters at 10'20 ... it covered the click of the metronome for the whole exercise.Beautiful.

[@ernieficklin3593]

Wow Rob. No one I have seen ever explained this like you just did. I tried this and right off the bat....it worked. Ive been playing for quite a while and just never got good at my independence. In a matter of a few hours, major improvement was made. Thanks dude. Love you videos and attitude 👊🏼

[@marlowmarshall5167]

I am a Sax/Bass/Keyboard player recently learning drums. You clearly Identified a newbie issue and a practical mechanism to address. Thanks to you and about two weeks of working on your lesson, right and left are vey much independent now. Thanks.

[@tommystroupe1289]

Been playing a long time Rob,but this is a great exercise regardless,if nothing else,put it in your warm-up routine.u da man!keep thumping them out man!

[@Glockenstein0869]

I dont even play the drums and I completely understand what you are saying. Excellent instruction.

[@mikoo4061]

OMG this instantly fixed my feet and hand independence just OMG THANK YOUUUU!!! You earned a sub man!!

[@jamesmoran7511]

I'm a guitar player. I find these videos helpful to communicate with drummers. They are a different breed

[@nolanp.6831]

It’s cool bc the first tip u gave u did naturally to teach myself. Wow. Good insight! Glad I’m on the right track!

[@LegendaryGames420]

Bruh the one thing that's discouraging me to play.... And you got the right information to keep me going... Thanks man subbed and like for sure!

[@robertdavis4916]

Thank you sir, this video has Extremely improved my independence. Please keep the knowledge rolling.

[@dharmaboy75]

Dude, this is mind blowing. I was struggling with this today (drumming for less than a month now) and imagining hitting the phantom note in the air is working. I was using my hand as the cymbal in the air and my practice pad while doing the kick pedal pattern. I am going at this slowly but I can't wait to do some off beat funky rhythms.

[@freshbutter8607]

Man, I learn more in this video that I have learned on all the other videos combined what you said about imagine hitting something on the upstroke of the hi-hat as soon as I started imagining that I got it right off man. Beautiful job. Beautiful job. Beautiful job. That's all I can say man. That analogy will spot on. Thank you so much! Great job!

[@rhoelg]

best ever free lesson on the topic! i use melodics on vdrums it has exercises like this too, i kept repeating im getting progress, he's absolutely right repetition is patience are all you need... heck and drums of course!

[@goldenwayfarer]

Easy to understand and effective! I don’t understand why a lot of other drummers make this lesson more complicated than it has to be. This is exactly what I needed.

[@bryanharrison3889]

I clicked on this video because I knew it was coming... I didn't know WHAT was coming... BUT! I KNEW that I would KNOW WHEN I SAW IT... and it happened at 5:42 when the lines came out of the kick and snare and pointed to a big giant "X" in a red circle.... I laughed my ass off. Your humor is as good as your lessons.

[@strangersound]

Thanks, Rob. Lots of drum teachers on KZbin, but you're the only one I watch regularly. Great lessons, presented clearly, and most importantly...with a great sense of humor. :)

[@teddibiase8442]

Solid session. My 1st time with you. The examples make sense. Enjoy your approach. Watching you is more valuable to me than other teachers preaching thru an exercise. You certainly can play. The visuals are helpful. The hitting the bell in the upstroke is a good ref point for learners like me. Looking forward to more of your insights . Thank you.

[@cosasquenuncatedije]

This is a great exercise for people like me that want to learn how to use the double bass pedal in the near future 😊

[@philipkarovski281]

Newbie drummer (3 months playing consistently) here this video is very very very useful

[@industrialvz]

Rob, very useful is playing straight groove with hands starting with right hand, and inverted walking beat with feet, starting with left foot ! This exercise as rudiment !

[@Aaa-c1b7u]

You are the best teacher I have seen on the internet so far. Thank you.

[@jipsee70]

"Shut up!" to your snare! 🤣...totally cracked me up! I do that all the time too. Thx for all the rockin lessons!!! 🤘

[@alexanderchristy8691]

This was mind blowing. This had me grinning ear to ear when I realized how simple it was.

[@Durwood71]

Everything seems simple once it's clearly explained. It's the application where things get tricky.

[@MrMickhew]

I’m left handed, so play differently. You’re an excellent teacher. Thanks.

[@steveo1897]

Thank you Rob. This is so helpful and I love your approach and help. Full of soul and giving. Bless you from the UK,

[@ilikelemons2197]

Thats actually crazy, i was following along messing up, the second you started hitting that bell I was perfect

[@PaulBirm]

Love the sound of the SNARE!!!

[@godwinbssdd]

Best drum lesson ever, this unlocks a lot more than just playing bass on off beats

[@SingerDuoScreens]

Great tip here to play the off-beat in the sky. It helps me to control it better.

[@jezfredd]

Me and my 2 very young kids just started learning and your exercises are very helpful and explained well. You have a gift of teaching. Thank you.

[@chrispuletz2946]

Thank you for this. I'm a drummer of 30 years, and this is what I needed. Thank you

[@charlesadams41]

Haha! I'm a brand new drummer...been watching and practicing along with your '10 beats for beginner drummers' and @5:40 is me exactly when the kick is on an off-beat! Gonna practice through it!

[@StacyODell]

I've just been drumming less than a year, and besides single kick foot speed this independence thing has tripped me up more than anything. The only time I could get it working was at a really slow bpm, and even then I still couldn't figure out why it worked. That was until I watched this. I had never made the connection between the upstroke with my hand playing the eighth notes and the foot needing to hit on the 16th. Holy crap was this helpful. THANK YOU!!!

[@kirstenfruehling2868]

You must have just heard me complain about exactly this all week!! Awesome lesson, thank you!

[@BeinDreki]

You had me at the conversation with the snare, stayed for the lesson!

[@josteinv.jordet257]

Starting off at the age of 7, i remember having that problem myself. It took me about a month to fix it. I didn't really have a method for it, but whatever i did, it worked. And im sure this does too. Now five years later, after school, im a drum educator at my local school, teaching the kids how to play drums! And also, 1:30, best groove ever played👌

[@jocareding533]

Of all the methods I had tried before this one just made click so much faster! Thanks man!

[@MikeFoerster]

After 4 years of fighting with my limbs, thank you for putting this out.

[@musicmanxii]

Got the Alesis Strike on a whim last month around Christmas. Been playing guitar/bass and other stringed instruments for like 12 years, your videos have been incredibly helpful for starting off my drumming exploration!

[@onebadhombre7158]

Great lesson! Imagining that I’m playing an upstroke that can be heard helps a lot! Man this is great stuff

[@timcorbett5454]

Wanted to say thanks man! I held my left hand up and smacked it on the up stroke of my eighth noted and was actually able to hit the 16ths with my foot! I still have a long way to go, but this bit of progress felt great today after watching your video last night!

[@doktortranslator]

Man, you're just genius! Make bass drum on the top of hihat stick. It works! I got the idea. Thank you, man, from Russia. 🎉

[@floydthebarber71]

Was waiting for the lesson, then got hit HARD with that groove. HOLY SHIT MAN

[@1shirlehful3]

Woahhhhh!!!! I never thought I’d be able to this!! I got that first exercise down and it’s so exciting. It’s so interesting how when you broke down the 8th notes into 16…something in my brain just switched!

[@teiga23]

Man!! This is killer stuff---side note, though, with an apology to get off-subject--I really like your posture---this is something I have trying to be more conscious of---do you have a video on just posture at the kit?

[@Chiroman527]

Mike, my posture sux too. I have lots of back problems. But watching Rob and others, I see how important this is. And not just while playing drums. I noticed how much higher the snare is positioned to his legs. I think mine is too low and will start to adjust immediately. Also seen on other Drummer vids. Just got Gibraltar motorcycle style throne that hopefully help with the saddle anathesia I get from sitting just 20 minutes. At 68, with lots of lumbar back problems it really sucks to deal with. Happy Drumming

[@qd_w]

Thank you so much!! This has helped me enormously! I was watching it at half speed and playing along, then .75 then full speed. Thank you!!

[@njdrummer7120]

Great video Rob. Things happen slowly and thanks to your videos I have the slightest improvements each day. I’m 48 started playing drums 3 years ago and I really enjoy your videos more and more each day. Your left foot independence video is fantastic.

[@remander3873]

Just started the drums. Finally found a comfortable, stable, controlled grip for me (French). Going to start grooving this week, and independence I know is the main problem I'll encounter with that. Great explanation and exercises. Thanks!

[@beautynotstatic2419]

Simplification, for the nations. Mucho appreciattooo! Peace and love.

[@ericdouglas8678]

Brother Rob your style is simple and yet so Great and so educational Thanks and God bless you young man: I will use your teachings to play a to my Church God willing

[@joelsimon3213]

Thank you so much! I've unlocked 'em! Now just gotta keep it up everyday.