How to Adjust and Set Up Your Hi-Hat Stand (Beginner & Intermediate)

[@n.ciebevilaqua3603]

Thank you SO much! I'm a 60-year-old woman who just got her first drum kit (after 40 years of wanting one!). It's basically just a kid's set, so that I could really make sure that it's something I can pursue before buying something more expensive, but I DID decide that it needed a hi-hat (ride cymbal is probably next). I was having a hell of a time making it sound right, and now after your one short video it's been adjusted and sounds great. Now I just need to learn how to play it all properly...

[@benwh6540]

Dude, these vids are epic... it’s like you do the “elephants in the room” topics... I am a hobby drummer that’s self taught... totally get the hi hat now man! Thanks (subscribed)

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Nice. Welcome to the channel 🙂🤘🏽

[@Andy912love]

English is my second language. I'm learning English as well as drums. The way Bob talks is easy for me to understand. He talks relatively slow in my opinion and that is good for me. Thanks for the post, Rob !

[@steveafanador6441]

Your writing is perfect. Good job 👍👍

[@Andy912love]

@@steveafanador6441 I'm glad to hear that. Thank you for your post!

[@Matt_bechillin]

Your writing is better than mine forsure

[@Andy912love]

@@Matt_bechillin Thank you for cheering me up💕

[@joshlybecker3476]

If you lean your bottom hat away from you, rather than towards you, you won't chip n chew ur sticks up as much either. Just another small tip I learned

[@michelelittle3789]

Thank you! I am 60 years old and just got my first kit. I am over the moon with this site. With Covid not too many people are giving personal lessons.

[@drummerguyron]

4:08... So that's why I can't get any chicks.. ahhhh.... :D Great vid man..

[@dwaynerobertson383]

This man is a gift! Every single video - instant improvement..

[@barrybebenek8691]

I’ve been playing for a good 35 years, and I can attest to spending on good hardware. (Or at least the best you can afford). Mine is now DW 9000 and Pearl. You won’t go wrong spending what you can for quality. Great tips again Rob. Thanks. 👍🏼🇨🇦 Great tips again Rob. 👍🏼

[@cecilopez3369]

Love your videos!!! I am a beginner drummer, and love how detailed and super helpful!!!

[@godislove8740]

I watched it all and I was "good to go" after.

[@DerekZane1]

a guitarist getting back into drums and I been overloading on different players but I finally subscribed to you cuz of this video! "So THAT'S what that screw under the hi hat is!" Thanks, Rob I'm digging all of your stuff

[@monstersaint]

Been playin' for 10 years, still did not know the nitty gritty on Hat stands. Now I do. Rob, your vids are awesome and excellent.

[@jazz4asahel]

Truly a beginner. Nice to have a pro to help me out. Thank you!

[@shanahaudree]

Sir, can you zoom in a little more?

[@Goabnb94]

Pull rods - can you get shorter ones or is there an adjustment I am missing? I've got my hi-hats on the lower side of the spectrum, and it seems there is miles of rod sitting above it. And I see you and other drummers have only a little more than you need which looks a lot better. Is there an adjustment I am missing to change this or is it fixed like this?

[@mellowords]

I would like to know this too

[@ianagustin18]

I think that in standard hi hat stands you can't adjust the rod but if you buy like a mid-high end stands you can surely adjust the rod.

[@blujay2084]

I've hacksawed more than one in my day.

[@gmoney9794]

When I got my dw5000 stand it came with two different length rods. I play with mine pretty high but the longer rod still had miles on it so I use the short one and have an inch or two of rod sticking up. Looks way better. Also I think the rods are typically longer by default for those that play standing up such as a Latin percussionist with timbales etc.

[@louisdimov8956]

HEY 🥰 THAT'S DA DRUM TECH'S JOB BEFORE U GO ON STAGE!!!!😂

[@deepbluntman___8650]

Obligatory comment to help the Chanel! 😁👋

[@Rockin_Ross]

Great tips! Some things this 30+ year drummer didn’t know. Thanks, Rob.🤘🏻

[@theophany1770]

I'm a guitarist and new drummer. Just subbed, thanks man!

[@tullyliddell]

Thank you sir, setting up my 1st HH in my home studio after about 58 years of playing mostly guitar. Great job, next move is getting a new clutch. Preciate it.

[@channelindierock8061]

Having professionals like Rob on KZbin is such a leap forward for drumming education. For most of my life, I had to find information about drumming techniques by listening to my teacher, trying to interpret images from drum education books, watching drummers playing on Tv and live, and finally saving up questions for when I visited the local drum store. Now you can browse the Internet and get direct access to excellent and varied audio-visual lessons made by some of the best. Position of accessories on your kit and ergonomics. (sorry it's a long comment but I think it is useful) I just want to add body mechanics to this great advice. It will save serious wear and tear on your back and joints if you want to play for 50-60yrs. I know because of the damage and pain I have from incidents related to being a musician. • Why not play on like Charlie Watts who layed down beats till he was 80yrs. RIP Charlie Watts - The Rolling Stones• Anyway, I have been playing drums for almost 49 yrs and have found with hi-hat position that the degree the hats are locked open by the clutch affects your timing and if the gapping and placement of the hats are not comfortable you can tend to have sloppy timing. I discovered that I was exerting more energy with my left foot (for most of us right-handers) to close the hats while my right foot was laying down the bass pedal rhythm if my hats were not adjusted and positioned comfortably with good claws or a small sandbag to stop them slipping during a gig, recording and practice sessions. Once I found the best position I marked kit layout spots on my drum rug and little paint marks on my accessories sort of like the memory locks that exist now. ( If you are playing a gig you may want a lightweight carpet similar to the lining used on a car floor to place on stage with all your drum kit positions marked out. (then if your lucky someone else can set your kit up exactly as you like it) It's like having two glasses of water filled with the same amount of fluid. The right leg beats the bass drum while the left leg controls the hat. For example, emptying the glass (relaxing the muscles) is when the hat opens and refilling the glass to the same amount means the leg/ankle/foot muscles are engaged to close the hat. Of course, there will be variables with emphasis on bass beats or tap slapping the hats to achieve a longer opening ring of the top hat cymbal. Then there is the heal-to-toe variation on pedals. (probably a subject for intermediate drummers to investigate) By getting some even equal pressure on the left and right leg muscles you can play smooth and reduce tiring your leg and losing time. (Think about it if you are playing two 1/14hr sets a night with 40 mins between sets. It is tiring) Finally, your body height, leg and arm leg length will have to determine where you seat your hats in relation to the snare for comfort. I am 6ft. 1 and raise my seat so the belly area is in line with the snare rim. Mind you that belly of mine has dropped a bit over 60yrs.😅 Consider keeping the snare almost horizontal for consistent drumstick contact (i.e. velocity) and for playing rim shots and especially different beats like Afro-Cuban beats like rhumba and Cha-Cha rim-snare patterns. Do your research and see what the experts say. I find after studying many drummer's approaches that this seems to be a pretty good guide. It protects your back from serious strain over the years. Finally, don't forget to work on developing equal strength in both feet as you are with both hands. Rock and drum on ladies and gents and watch all of Rob's video tutorials because they are great. BTW, Rob is spot on about cheap Hi-Hat clutches and the same for slipping cheap pedals both bass and hi-hat. Plus watch his hi-Hat development video.

[@richardliles4415]

Thank you. That was very helpful.

[@JS45678]

There is truly nothing worse than that damn high hat coming loose and falling apart...ugghhh! That’s why I keep ample tubes of Super Glue next to my kit. I’ve used it for everything from securing impact patches to my Pop Rocks figurines to those damn cymbal wing nuts to gluing down those high hat bolts. Problems are always solved w Super Glue and Duct Tape around my sprawling kit. 🤓 Regarding high hat height, mine is fairly tall and I smash away on the side as I’m a beginner and love playing like Tommy Lee or Lars Ulrich, putting everything Ive got into each stroke. Plus, I use the carbon wrapped aluminum core 5B ROCK plastic tip sticks so regardless how much I hack away on my hats, no significant damage to those two lead pipes I use behind my kit. I went ahead with your GREAT ADVICE and opened my hats much wider which makes it much easier to splash them using my left foot pedal! 🙏 Awesome video for us beginners Rob, keep rocking out, thanks! 🤘😝🤘

[@DeanWuksta]

John Smith not a good idea, sticks are designed to take the impact of cymbals, not the other way round, i hear this a lot, think about it, much cheaper to replace sticks than cymbals, and eventually something is gonna give. Glue is not a great idea if your pulling down and setting up for gigs every day.

[@garyjones8707]

Thank you so much for the info on 'fixing' the long spindle which my grandson thought was broken - saved .me the cost of buying him a complete new high hat. Great videos you've got on here

[@blujay2084]

Nice video. Thoughtful. Complete. What I've come to expect from Dr. Beatdown. The only thing I might have possibly added is a mention of some of the quick release 'drop' clutches that release and drop the top cymbal down when tapped with a stick so you can play the hat with a stick (kinda) even with your left foot on a double bass pedal and then tap down with your foot on the hi hat pedal to re-engage the mechanism to lift the top cymbal back up again. Gibraltar SC-DC is an example.

[@Reub3]

I've been trying to figure out what am I doing wrong with my left foot/high hat/setup and all. I couldn't play comfortably with the way the store had my high hat stand setup. This was everything I needed. Thank you so much.

[@thunderfan77]

I was surprised to see my brand new expensive Mapex Falcon hi hat stand came with the same kind of clutch you mentioned that pushes against the rod. It has the fancy quick release mechanism for the top hat, but they totally dropped the ball on how it connects to the rod. So I quickly got the Gibraltar Turning Point clutch with the much better eye bolt style connection to the rod and it's been great. I have two of them, one for each of my kits. I love Mapex and have no problem spending primo bucks for their Falcon hardware. But was disappointed they didn't put much thought into the small details.

[@gaboogablah]

Mapex sucks, the only good thing from mapex is the MC903 multi clamp with two swivel joints.

[@gaboogablah]

Mapex has more stupid names for their models than Pennsylvania has town names. A real sign of Chinese quality, saturn, mars, falcon, eagle, gold, platinum, super deluxe. Maybe they think they can trick people in thinking its good using names like that.

[@thomasmckay6826]

Mr Brown Great video! Extremely helpful for beginners too. Thank -you

[@richardpoile2118]

Hi. Great simple explanation for setting up the Hi-Hats. At 59 years old I decided that I wanted to learn the drums properly and your videos are really helpful to someone who does not yet have the knowledge, and experience, to set up correctly. You are not like a lot of the other 'help' videos who seem to spend more time talking about themselves and how great they are than actually helping beginners like myself and that is so refreshing to see. Keep on helping and, who knows, maybe one day I might just find myself being more than just a good beginner! (Subscribed)!

[@Louisejames23]

Thanks for this, my hats sounded awful practising today, gonna try this & see if I can make them sound.... less awful 😬🥁

[@scottyhughes9179]

Thanks Rob, a great lesson!

[@AHGV19987]

Nice video Rob, thank you so much. I've used the technique you describe with the thumb and pinky to set the distance between hi hat and snare. It's worked countless times for me. Thanks again for the great advice!

[@ShakingTwoTrees2012]

If you position your hi-hat leveling screw facing you (the opposite to how Rob has his in this video), the top hat will overlap the bottom hat and cause less stick shank wear.

[@fujitattooz5127]

Hi Rob just bought what seems to be an older Yamaha 700 series high hat stand as I upgrade my hardware , incredible stand and great DW double clutch as I am just starting to learn the double pedal ( doubt I’ll use it much but good to learn ) anyways that video explained some new stuff thank you . Question , I am a pattern of yours but on my other account , does your site have a place I can switch my email back to this one as I miss stuff and don’t use that one much so I want to delete it but not lose our contact and patreon info . Thanks again Beatdown ! Fuji .

[@larshetfield2156]

5:39 FINALLY!! SOMEONE ADDRESSES HOW ANNOYING THAT IS!!! It is especially annoying for me as a metal drummer, when it goes loose while I'm doing a skank beat. Thank you for finally acknowledging this Rob!

[@drumsrlife71418]

Thanks for tutorial on proper hi hat placement, going to apply those techniques to my stand today. 👍

[@gmoney1592]

No matter what level of drummer you are you can always learn something . Having your hi hat in the right position . And adjusted correctly is extremely important. Think about how much we use it in our playing . These were some great tips . And a good review. As always thanks. And it’s cool that you do lessons for drummers of all abilities. Thanks man

[@TonyVazquez8265]

I'm a 57yo drummer in a garage-rock punk band, yeah beatin my kit like a 20yo, LOL... Cool tutorial on hihat setup! I used to smack my snare hand often while playing my hat... I solved that problem by raising my hihat higher, now I play my hats at chest height with the hats all the way to the top of the pull-bar, tilted, so I can chick it and play some nice bell rides on the hats without smackin my snare hand with my right-side stick.

[@davidkral118]

Thank you! You just saved me some bucks chasing more expensive hats.

[@melissasergent7881]

This video was super helpful! I recently started learning drums and I have an electric kit at home so setting up a hi-hat on acoustic kits is always daunting to me.

[@OldStationRecords]

Rob, you are the best. Humble, clear, and generous on sharing your knowledge, keep rockin..! Best regards, and thank you. Joe

[@jarrahdrum]

thank you Rob for the lessons about hi hats and hi hat stands. Ive already improved after watching and listening to you. I do not think that there is not enough information with regards to the hi hat stand and hi hat cymbals and this is really surprising considering that, well, in my opinion and hopefully many others that this is the most complex part of a drumkit ?

[@drumhead869]

3:44 !!!!.... Thanks Rob ....You saved me from that mind set

[@samisalloum6575]

I just would like to thank you for this very useful detailed video, thank you so much!

[@THESLOWDEATHHOOKS]

nice tips

[@gcorriveau6864]

I really enjoy your thorough explanations. Thanks for sharing! (An old, self-taught drummer getting back into it ;-) ...✌🏼Peace&Love

[@Kik2nek]

I'm a super beginner... never had a drumset, but I won Sweetwater mapex december... although no cymbals yet... need lots of help

[@gaboogablah]

Normally i put the bottom hat tilt adjustment screw close to me to keep the wider open side on the other side and the side with the hats closer ir touching nearer to me to have a more consistent playing surface and better chic from the hats, but I got a new pearl H1050 hihat stand and I was surprised that the tilt screw can be on the other side and the closed hats side is next to me. That's the only stand I've ever seen do it that way. And that's compared to two Ludwig, two tama, a sonor and Mapex hihat stands. I've got a tama star set but I didn't like the tama stands and this pearl H1050 is great. I don't use two leg stands because every one wobbles when you're jamming. And the H1050 legs rotate 360°. I think before I got this, my favorite was my old sonor, but from the several new stands I've had, i got rid of them all and stuck with the pearl H1050.

[@juliovargas697]

I just got my drum set .thanks for making this video

[@Joshlouey]

Can u do a affordable cymbal pack video?

[@stephanedrumcover4141]

Hello Rob Brown, thank you for all your information and lessons. I see that you are working with the new Zoom livetrack L-12 recording mixer which has compressors, EQ etc... Can you tell me what you think of this table with its strengths and points? weak. Thanks. Stephane

[@henk-janwormgoor8497]

Thanks Rob for the video. I have 1 extra adjustment: i like the angle of my left foot when hi hat is closed same as the angle of my right bass drum foot when the beater hits the bass. This way ...if i move my feet the same way ...the click and hit are exact at the same moment. So for instance for a disco beat wityh a bass drum on 1234 and with open hi hat on all &'s the close of the hi hat has to be on every beat exactly the same as the hit of the bass drum. I now just can move my legs the same way up and down and the open hi hat will be OK and also the close will be OK at the same moment as the bass drum.

[@jllafoy8605]

Rob, I have a few detailed questions I would like to ask you on the side if you have a Facebook or somehow I can holler at you in a private message. Thanks man, Jake

[@curtisvasseur9785]

What hi hat model is this? I’m guessing Yamaha but which one? There are like 3 HS-1200 models but none look similar to this one below the middle. Unless the one pictured here was discontinued.

[@curtisvasseur9785]

Thanks brother. I only knew about half of what you showed me. I already knew about the clutch thing though months ago, before I knew about your channel. The kit I was playing on. I upgraded a couple of things, and I changed out my hi hat stand for a better one and I got a Gibraltar clutch. But you show me about two things here I wasn’t even aware of adjusting. I pretty much left those 2 things as is. But I’m gonna try what you said.

[@davegarciaofficial]

The bane of my hi hat experience has always been the obnoxiously long rods that stick up a foot higher than the top cymbal! Just awful. I see here that his rod is really short. Basically no protrusion over the top cymbal. I’m not about to start hacksawing and filing and rethreading rods and all that nonsense. Does anyone make a shorter rod that fits say a DW3000 hi hat stand??? What rod is being used here that’s SO short??

[@T.Maximus]

Thanks brother,,.found exactly what i needed.!

[@peterholdenmusic]

Love the vids Rob. Switched from playing guitar for 20 years to drums and digging it. Your vids are easy to understand and I’m already taking notes on upgrading pieces after I make sure my timing is solid and can play with some songs. Tuning....that’s always a work in progress! Will pick up a Drummer For Hire shirt for wear maybe in later 2021!

[@alexmanojmathews]

Great video Prof brown. Could you do a video on how to set up a 3 leg hi hat stand with a double bass pedal. It's a nightmare

[@timrussell5988]

Great info for a beginner like myself. I purchased a like new stand earlier today for my first kit.

[@glenspringle7337]

Cool! I learned a couple things... lower hat at a angle, and that there are better top clamps... the difference between a set screw and a proper shaft clamp!

[@classixdrummer]

Canada? Where you at, Rob?

[@TheKilissaCissoko]

This was so helpful! Thanks!

[@genxrev]

Super helpful video. Many thanks!

[@ickleed1980]

Daft question - the spring tension adjustment - when it’s at the bottom it’s loose as the top it’s tight?

[@sandeepvaheguru]

What is the Hi Hat Cluth that gibraltar makes? Is it the quick release / Drop clutch?? :S

[@jomudesimedia]

Nice video! Thank you. Trying to decide on the 1200 D or T. Hmmm

[@bigman5306]

i need help man, i just got a drumset like last week and i'm tryna make my hi hat higher because it's even lower than my snare drum but the wing nut in the middle isn't stopping the tube that holds the felt and the bottom cymbal. i put my finger where the wing nut is and there isn't even a hole for the wing nut to come out of to stop the tube

[@adamg3531]

Is it wrong that I just put thread tape on my clutch and it's never fallen off again?

[@trevathecleva]

This vid is perfect, trying to set up my first kit! Thank you.

[@Filmyak01]

As a brand-new drummer who is learning what I can.... this video was incredibly helpful! Thank you for taking the time to really break it down in detail!

[@josefsebestyen8134]

Great explanation brother. Thank you

[@voederbietels]

when i put my feet from the paddle you hear a lout bang the highat goes up and stops without damping i have no idee how to resolve this. it is a DW. dont know what to do.

[@irving2006drummer]

Great video, thank you very much 👌🏾

[@opgamer9296]

How do I set it up though? Like it’s in pieces and I have to build it

[@jerrylehti7230]

you re not going to get a chick , lol good information !! Thanks Rob

[@stanleyvo5198]

Thanks for explaining how to set up hi hat ....

[@billdowning6818]

Should the hi hat seat be glued or permanently attached to the stand?

[@rickle_pick9934]

my hi hat has a very bad sound sounds like u hit a can what can i change to make it sound better?

[@springmandujano7206]

What about the foot pedal adjustment itself?

[@lmjb64]

Great video, thanks!

[@DannyGadish]

What setting do you have your springs at?

[@golflre7179]

Ty! New drummer, setting up my new set.

[@АнтонА-ь9б]

Thank you so much! Lots of new info!

[@bushmon4529]

What about the foot pedal on the high hit?

[@blackrichard1029]

Love your vids, bro! Keep it up!

[@HipHopHistoryGuy]

Great tips Rob! I will be making some adjustments in the morning.

[@dleonp_32]

Thankkkk you you help me alot

[@mikebarker5783]

Is that your gig throne in the corner?

[@schememusic]

Consistently great videos

[@oinkooink]

Oh you had a cold? You know what we call that today? Covid.

[@mountainman78629]

I tell everyone my aids is flaring up

[@oinkooink]

@@mountainman78629 Is that the covid quaxxccine induced aids? Or the old school 1980's aids?

[@mountainman78629]

@@oinkooink not sure. Might be gonorrhea or syphilis, who knows.

[@oinkooink]

@@mountainman78629 No worries. Maybe just get more booooosters and you'll be socially acceptable.

[@jraelien5798]

DUDE!!! Thank you so much!!! I bought a drumset almost three years ago, been playing almost daily, and never saw these adjustments! Priceless information!!!

[@kayaramirez5608]

Thank you so much

[@thomaswise4063]

Hi Rob, I have a DW5000 hi-hat stand with Roland electronic VH-13 cymbals. I am hearing a clicking noise near the cymbals whenever the pedal goes up. Do you know how to correct this problem? Thanks.

[@paddymaguire1703]

Thanks, Rob!

[@ruthfreiderich]

Thank you Rob!

[@ralphgilbert9527]

I really a appreciate all the videos you do, after taking a break from drumming for 13 years I'm back to it. I've learned soooo much from you, wish you were around when I first started 56 years ago along with you tube. Keep up the great work bud!!!

[@deniz-akkaya-x]

Hi Rob! Great information again. Can you please tell us which HH clutch do you use if you can tell? Huge fan of you! Cheers!

[@freddiericdelara8395]

Thanks Rob!

[@mantashaft]

I am a 47 yr old guitar player that knows little to nothing about drums (except when it’s out of time ;)... I got a starter kit for my kids hoping one will pick it up. But I can’t help messing around with it. Thanks for the video because I’m clueless