Robert Deniro Doesn't Understand the Joker

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@officialmasqq_594
@officialmasqq_594 4 жыл бұрын
DeNiro was basically the OG Joker as Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver, I'm fairly sure he understands the themes of the film
@wc2433
@wc2433 4 жыл бұрын
I think your right.
@rebusd
@rebusd 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always thought that this was yet another case of an artist wishing to foil previous work. Maybe Bobby just doesn't wanna discuss it at the moment.
@fauhwn
@fauhwn 4 жыл бұрын
definitely. watched taxi driver after i watched the joker, and couldn't help but notice so many similar elements between the two movies
@trevordunn3728
@trevordunn3728 4 жыл бұрын
@@fauhwn i'd say Kin of Comedy is actually more similar because he wants to be a standup comic and he attacks the host
@trevordunn3728
@trevordunn3728 3 жыл бұрын
@BoredHub no not at all it doesn’t represent the one bad day that is the Killing Joke the joker is slowly losing his mind. It’s definitely inspired by King of Comedy and Taxi Driver
@celticbird2398
@celticbird2398 5 жыл бұрын
Franklin Murry didn't understand the Joker either, De Niro was perfect for the role!
@parulgarg4502
@parulgarg4502 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, he's playing joker all his life, King of Comedy and Taxi Driver..Joker is nothing but a 2019 homage to Taxi Driver
@bbbllsels2773
@bbbllsels2773 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, joker 2019 is shit
@parulgarg4502
@parulgarg4502 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbbllsels2773 it's not shit, it's a very good movie but comparing it to Martin Scorsese's masterpieces it's an average product
@bbbllsels2773
@bbbllsels2773 3 жыл бұрын
@@parulgarg4502 well, when it compared to heath ledger's joker imo. Also it's the least accurate joker of all the jokers. And yeah I agree with you, it's not good enough to compare it to masterpiece taxi driver
@parulgarg4502
@parulgarg4502 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbbllsels2773 tbh there's no sense in comparing this with Heath ledger's joker it's not based on comics and it's is a complete different version of Nolan's joker.... it's more of a character study on isolation rather than nihilism
@marcelfigueroa2449
@marcelfigueroa2449 4 жыл бұрын
Joaquin’s clap at 0:25 is very reminiscent of Heath’s famous Joker clap
@degenerategambler4830
@degenerategambler4830 5 жыл бұрын
0:24 Joaquins clap aggressive as hell lmao 😆
@hudmud1538
@hudmud1538 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the sarcastic clap from the Dark Knight
@rmdo5583
@rmdo5583 4 жыл бұрын
@@hudmud1538 when jokers in jail lmao
@ramonserna8089
@ramonserna8089 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't like Deniro and both actors had trouble on set.
@2am934
@2am934 4 жыл бұрын
@@ramonserna8089 de niro is his favorite actor
@swisscheeseplease97
@swisscheeseplease97 4 жыл бұрын
@@ramonserna8089 well you’re right they did have trouble on set.
@imaturquoisecloud0421
@imaturquoisecloud0421 4 жыл бұрын
0:50 Joker's laugh
@rjaymolina
@rjaymolina 4 жыл бұрын
Robert’s like, “Stop adding nuance. It’s all pretty straightforward. Just watch the damn movie”
@KydzPlays
@KydzPlays 3 жыл бұрын
It’s annoying. Joker is so surface level compared to KOC and Taxi Driver.
@rjaymolina
@rjaymolina 3 жыл бұрын
@@KydzPlays A friend of mine just saw KOC for the first time the other day and basically realized the same
@805livin4
@805livin4 3 жыл бұрын
@@rjaymolina what’s KOC ?
@rjaymolina
@rjaymolina 3 жыл бұрын
@@805livin4 King of Comedy
@FrancisCastiglione
@FrancisCastiglione 2 жыл бұрын
@@KydzPlays Meh, doesn't have to be subtle to be good.
@renokru7443
@renokru7443 4 жыл бұрын
0:24 OMG Joaquins clap look like Joker Heath Ledger clap in police station
@beatsbylaith1358
@beatsbylaith1358 4 жыл бұрын
Feels like he does it on purpose
@dylanthrillmour866
@dylanthrillmour866 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a clap.
@nightcrawler2717
@nightcrawler2717 4 жыл бұрын
De niro had the whole joker scene in 1976 lol
@ikejugend
@ikejugend 5 жыл бұрын
Why he doesn’t understand Joker doe? He just answered questions
@psychwardpussyeater
@psychwardpussyeater 4 жыл бұрын
wtf!!why you type doe thats wrong english omg eported!!
@psychwardpussyeater
@psychwardpussyeater 4 жыл бұрын
@@ikejugend It's a joke, damn thought you'd understand. Made it so blatant.
@skepticchic3426
@skepticchic3426 4 жыл бұрын
@@psychwardpussyeater doubtful.
@psychwardpussyeater
@psychwardpussyeater 4 жыл бұрын
@@skepticchic3426 ok lol
@lokithor83
@lokithor83 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen taxi driver, but i haven't seen king of comedy but apparently the director liberally borrowed from these movies to make Joker.. So, i guess that's why he wouldn't be suprised by it..
@mhaze210
@mhaze210 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I thought Zazzie Beatz's eyes were bugging out at 0:18 but it's her eye lids.
@eriktenhag2022
@eriktenhag2022 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Creeped tf Outta me for a second
@NoOne-px5vz
@NoOne-px5vz 4 жыл бұрын
0:55 Joker still exists
@heftyyjelly9766
@heftyyjelly9766 4 жыл бұрын
uh... he just doesn't give a shit about overly-analytical questions lmao Bobby D just wants ot go home, he understands the Joker just fine
@kk-sr1wl
@kk-sr1wl 5 жыл бұрын
If de Niro could've been in dark Knight as mob guy
@Incondave2406
@Incondave2406 5 жыл бұрын
mm mm Joe pecci as the penguin
@Karlebow571
@Karlebow571 4 жыл бұрын
And al Pacino?
@rmdo5583
@rmdo5583 4 жыл бұрын
@@Karlebow571 two face Harvey would fit perfectly
@Karlebow571
@Karlebow571 4 жыл бұрын
Batman movie directed by Martin Scorsese Robert deniro as carmine falcone Joe Pesci as penguin Al panino as Harvey dent/two face
@marcelfigueroa2449
@marcelfigueroa2449 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Would have been an amazing Falcone
@busstopboxer7519
@busstopboxer7519 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the man doesn't like the character and tried to stay away from his(joker's) motives and his rather explosive psyche... I love how he sort of goes around the questions , instead of answering them. And the lack of a "deep philosophical conversation" actually proves his intentions to generally avoid the 🃏 Good, kind hearted man
@cristianotv4673
@cristianotv4673 5 жыл бұрын
I Understand his old but i love Robert DE rirro
@jeffaffects5813
@jeffaffects5813 5 жыл бұрын
I understand his old aswell
@greenetseng
@greenetseng 4 жыл бұрын
Love him so much 😘♥️
@JGunit
@JGunit 2 жыл бұрын
Her eyeshadow is trippy af. Looks like Storm about to make all hell break loose
@felipeharger
@felipeharger 3 жыл бұрын
Bob does not overthink things. Just the way he is.
@kenthefele113
@kenthefele113 Жыл бұрын
That’s what makes him a great actor.
@OneNationSoul
@OneNationSoul 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect answer for silly question
@ibrahimtufekci512
@ibrahimtufekci512 4 жыл бұрын
When you understand why your cat wants to catch laser light, then you can understand joker.
@spunkymaniac9312
@spunkymaniac9312 4 жыл бұрын
Because they think it's a little animal, like mice or birds, they see it as a pray , easy
@charlesshankle3178
@charlesshankle3178 3 жыл бұрын
Robert De Niro should have played Batman when he was younger. His subtle acting style works for his character and Bruce Wayne. Considering he is from NYC, he could embody a wealthy Gotham socialite with ease. De Niros portrayal of a similarly troubled, lonely and capable character such as Neil from heat in my mind displays he can portray Batman well. I would have wanted to have him play opposite a Joker played by Mel Gibson. The overall movie would have needed a really polished style befit Deniro; allow Bob to write some of his own lines in and let her rip
@Karlebow571
@Karlebow571 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve say Robert De Niro can play falcone and Joe Pesci as the penguin
@charlesshankle3178
@charlesshankle3178 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karlebow571 both good choices. Pesci as the penguin would be especially cool, a truly unhinged Penguin. I also like Mel Gibson as the Joker. Imagine an evil Martin Riggs, a true madman. Contrast that with DeNiro and his subtle acting style, clean Gotham and in my mind you have a really cool, almost believable Batman movie.
@gvngbvngiggy
@gvngbvngiggy 7 ай бұрын
Those are some of the weirdest choices ive ever heard of for batman and joker lmao
@charlesshankle3178
@charlesshankle3178 7 ай бұрын
@@gvngbvngiggy I don't see how it's weird. Gibson has excelled at playing unhinged characters such as Martin Riggs and Conrad Fairbanks in The Expendables for example. DeNiro has a subtle acting style and has played loners, vigilantes such as Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver. Polished such as young Vito Corleone in the Godfather. In my mind, it wouldn't be a huge undertaking for DeNiro to be a happy median of those two characters without the moral failings. Mel Gibson as the joker would play a true psychopath. Think of a Martin Riggs gone bad and wearing face paint, purple suits, etc. The precedent is there for both men
@thereliablesource7938
@thereliablesource7938 Жыл бұрын
“I understood all the connections”
@Beans360
@Beans360 5 жыл бұрын
Deniro requested to be sat next to Zazzie Beats.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 жыл бұрын
Gee! I wonder why?
@meemy1337
@meemy1337 4 жыл бұрын
well he played the taxi driver which is similar to the joker
@ashith1297
@ashith1297 2 жыл бұрын
Don't use clicbait in the title. He clearly said that he understood the theme of the movie, and how wouldn't he? Guy has done the same thing 40 years before this, of course understands it. And to those who are saying that Robert prbbly doesn't like the character's motives and morals then you are highly mistaken coz this is the guy who has played every type of Gangster role one can think of. He was in Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Godfather II, Goodfellas, Casino, Heat, Irishman and so on...So he's never gonna have any trouble doing or associating with violent roles. Here he's just being his usual self - not really interested in interview and acting like audience-oriented presenter. He's always been a little introverted and just doesn't like to follow most of the conventional media- showbiz rubbish.
@kk-sr1wl
@kk-sr1wl 5 жыл бұрын
De Niro badass in heat n Goodfellas joker would be proud
@dogbruh5778
@dogbruh5778 4 жыл бұрын
mm mm taxi driver too my nigga
@ScaroMK
@ScaroMK 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Casino
@MEXICANMOOSE1976
@MEXICANMOOSE1976 5 жыл бұрын
Its awesome to see you uploading again!! I hate that you deleted all your wonderful content!! Ppl needed to hear what you had to say bud!! Hope you're well and staying blessed!!!
@beinDAman
@beinDAman 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to stay anonymous in order to promote my webcomics. I say it better through visual imagery anyway.
@TheFantastictaco
@TheFantastictaco 5 жыл бұрын
I love how he cuts through the bullshit.
@seanchaney3086
@seanchaney3086 2 жыл бұрын
No
@outlawblack123
@outlawblack123 2 ай бұрын
He looks like Scorcese in the second clip.
@MrAztek
@MrAztek 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the man that played Travis Bickle didn’t play the joker
@Perrypedia81
@Perrypedia81 3 жыл бұрын
Joker it’s like a mix of the King of comedy and taxi driver
@srv1347
@srv1347 3 жыл бұрын
'We had no deep grand philosophical discussion about it' , just watch the demn movie !! 😳
@jqyhlmnp
@jqyhlmnp 5 жыл бұрын
Great actors don’t mean great minds... it is noted that he seemed to really understand king of comedy and heat so perhaps it’s age? Idk
@gamingvn3797
@gamingvn3797 4 жыл бұрын
He is alive doesn't dead
@users10116
@users10116 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael Johnson no a think he is old
@mariodebuckfilmcomposer434
@mariodebuckfilmcomposer434 3 жыл бұрын
Well you are young and don't seem to have a great mind ... It's straightforward film , not philosophical bs .
@jqyhlmnp
@jqyhlmnp Жыл бұрын
@@mariodebuckfilmcomposer434in my defense I’m an idiot
@Souliban
@Souliban 2 жыл бұрын
Phoenix was in Joker yet .....He didn't have enough time to switch off
@thesmilingvagrants
@thesmilingvagrants 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's that he doesn't care, he's just old as shit now. You can see in the clip with Todd he vaguely remembers talking about something with him but has to be reminded of other details. No disrespect to the legend, but he was young in the 70s, look at Scorsese now
@nationalcoasternews5798
@nationalcoasternews5798 4 жыл бұрын
Scorsese is still making cinematic masterpieces. Your point?
@brianstephens52
@brianstephens52 4 жыл бұрын
When I was watching Taxi Driver my mom came in and she said why would you want to watch something like this what is wrong with you why would you watch this find something else right now
@avocadoo4387
@avocadoo4387 4 жыл бұрын
Wow lol
@SJNaka101
@SJNaka101 10 ай бұрын
Yeah i think deniro is just so entrenched in art that he's like the fish being told by the other fish, "nice water today, huh?" Deniro fish replies, "what the fuck is water?" None of it is all that profound to him because he's seen every story every theme everything that every story's ever had to say.
@ci7446
@ci7446 4 жыл бұрын
wish joaquin had done the joker laugh here in full! 0:53
@MWayne-zz1cr
@MWayne-zz1cr 3 жыл бұрын
De Niro, insightful as always. Thankfully, he's much better when it comes to acting.
@queenera1939
@queenera1939 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but does joker knows that De Niro has played the joker before?
@ben11058
@ben11058 4 жыл бұрын
He understands it perfectly, he doesn’t respect it
@utkarshpandey6424
@utkarshpandey6424 3 жыл бұрын
@@newtigom9460 ey f off mate hating on Deniro legend at this age Do your job mate
@FrancoisDressler
@FrancoisDressler 9 ай бұрын
As he shouldn't. It's a simple movie for teenagers.
@SamRossVlogs
@SamRossVlogs 4 жыл бұрын
3:17 rona
@cl759
@cl759 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't get it?
@kmchipower
@kmchipower 5 жыл бұрын
Deniro just phones every performance in now. He's so great and experienced that he's still rock solid in everything, but he never has that something special anymore.
@elimitchell9716
@elimitchell9716 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Lee that’s crazy imo. i mean its ur opinion but in the irishman i was actually kind of expecting just an ok performance that would be super fitting for a gangster movie but he blew me the fuck away. i thought he should have been nominated for best actor imo
@okokokokokok6818
@okokokokokok6818 4 жыл бұрын
Ehm.. you forgot irishman just dropped?
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck off.
@chaosjut
@chaosjut 4 жыл бұрын
Lol yes the Irishman, where he tried for the first time in the last two decades. Idiots
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 4 жыл бұрын
@@elimitchell9716 If that was ok performance then Joker 2019 was mediocre
@kristijan585
@kristijan585 4 жыл бұрын
The lady can`t contain herself haaha
@chuck34984
@chuck34984 2 жыл бұрын
As if Travis was bullied... That's what it's about.. bullies.. and payback
@kldalm1379
@kldalm1379 3 жыл бұрын
De Niro made amazing masterpieces in cinema, he is a legend so show some respect whoever wrote that title. Also, I think Joaquin Phoenix doesn't show respect to De Niro and their relationship seems tense.
@gvngbvngiggy
@gvngbvngiggy 7 ай бұрын
Her eye makeup is so shiny it looks like she has robotic eyes lmao
@jamesdavies5266
@jamesdavies5266 4 жыл бұрын
That girl baby girl
@TTM9691
@TTM9691 3 жыл бұрын
It's more like you don't understand De Niro, lol. I don't know what's more embarrassing to the times we live in: trying to "analyze" the Joker, or picking "The Shining" as the Kubrick movie to dissect and find deep meaning in, lol. De Niro hardly ever talks about his classic roles in any detail, I seriously doubt that the guy who was in "The Deer Hunter", "Raging Bull", "The Godfather Part II", "Taxi Driver", "The King Of Comedy", "The Mission", "Goodfellas", "Cape Fear", "Jackie Brown", "Mean Streets", "Brazil", "Awakenings", "Casino", (Etc etc) is going to sit there and give you some pretentious dissection of a dopey comic book movie.
@thedarkknightisrisingup7640
@thedarkknightisrisingup7640 4 жыл бұрын
Phoenix claps like joker
@Blahsy
@Blahsy 2 ай бұрын
Too bad they didn't follow the King of Comedy plot for the Joker 2 sequel
@geneanthony3421
@geneanthony3421 3 ай бұрын
And now he’s ranting because Joker 2 failed after the audience rejected it
@samglynn6886
@samglynn6886 4 жыл бұрын
who is the interviewer eric trump
@pkpapers
@pkpapers 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't understand bankrupted and harassed US citizens, either.
@geeteshm4858
@geeteshm4858 2 жыл бұрын
I think Juaquins loves that Niro doesn't take himself seriously but I'm like very sure that he sees that Niro doesn't even take the craft of acting seriously either...unlike his past. He seems disappointed in Niro hence over-the-top clapping and laughing. It sounds disapproving than reassuring.
@FrancoisDressler
@FrancoisDressler 9 ай бұрын
You're projecting.
@maximeonyt7819
@maximeonyt7819 4 жыл бұрын
Joaquin is awkward af
@theriddler482
@theriddler482 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not about the money, its about sending a message.
@gjergjaurelius9798
@gjergjaurelius9798 Жыл бұрын
Fuckin eh zaza!😘
@nightowl5475
@nightowl5475 Жыл бұрын
DeNiro is such a great actor but has always been a lousy interview. It would be interesting to talk about the character of Joker and to see how society has really messed this guy up. If you objectively watch the movie and see how badly this man is treated by society. In the beginning of the movie, a bunch of teenagers steal his sign that he’s using to advertise a going out of business sale for a store. He’s dressed up as a clown and he’s out front of the store trying to draw in customers. He runs after the teenagers and they wind up jumping him in an alley and crack the wooded sign across his face and kick him and stomp on him while he’s down. He’s just a poor mentally challenged guy on medication that has trouble dealing with society. It would of been interesting to really talk about the movie and get the feelings of the actors who created these characters. But DeNiro. Doesn’t seem to want to participate and talk about the movie. It’s a shame too because it seems to be art imitating life and the movie really has something to say about us in society. I would of really enjoyed DeNiro’s perspective on the characterization and the feelings that the character represents. I consider it a lost opportunity.
@Nominay
@Nominay 4 жыл бұрын
DeNiro's just a no bullshit kind of guy - keeps it simple. He's not a pontificator. He'd probably be a worse actor if he was.
@도영민-w4c
@도영민-w4c 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Lohan`s Uncle & Joaquin Phenix
@rollin19
@rollin19 3 жыл бұрын
That black woman is smoking hot.
@Fourclover7
@Fourclover7 5 жыл бұрын
He is getting old
@ccchezzaa
@ccchezzaa 4 жыл бұрын
Joachim well he is 76 lol
@hecantguardme15
@hecantguardme15 4 жыл бұрын
De Niro been getting old since meet the fockers .. still looking good
@TheSuperPlaysAwesome
@TheSuperPlaysAwesome 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone gets old lol
@Fourclover7
@Fourclover7 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSuperPlaysAwesome what i mean is that he is at the age where he doesnt understand modern stuff
@TheSuperPlaysAwesome
@TheSuperPlaysAwesome 4 жыл бұрын
Joachim oh yea that’s true
@kostadean2839
@kostadean2839 4 жыл бұрын
This what makes the movie so interesting and perfect esp for the joker role
@ThisEpicLife
@ThisEpicLife 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no fan of DeNiro, but I do have to sort of defend him here: I think when they interviewer says Murray "pushed him into becoming" the Joker, Deniro interpreted it to mean that Murray consciously encouraged him to take on the new persona, kind of like a therapist encouraging someone to make changes in their life... and DeNiro seemed a little confused by this. I could see him trying to process this and thinking, "What the hell are you talking about? My character wasn't even aware of his identity, much less try to convince him to become this 'Joker'. " IMHO it was an ambiguously-worded question, and it just threw DeNiro.
@yourbro8906
@yourbro8906 5 жыл бұрын
Travis Bickle>Joker
@saketadarsh7606
@saketadarsh7606 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to billion dollars
@21kburd
@21kburd 5 жыл бұрын
=
@GellertTV
@GellertTV 5 жыл бұрын
NOOOO
@EditRewind-AB
@EditRewind-AB 4 жыл бұрын
@@saketadarsh7606 When you can't make a good argument so you bring in the box office differences between a movie released in the 70's to a comic book movie released in 2019.
@saketadarsh7606
@saketadarsh7606 4 жыл бұрын
@@EditRewind-AB do the inflation
@james6940
@james6940 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of reddit soyboys in this comment section
@RasMajnouni
@RasMajnouni 4 жыл бұрын
Di Niro a grandified same -bit-character since 1972 on a stage with Joaquin Phoenix ?? Phoenix never plays a role remotly as himself.Evidently that IS all DiNiro can do.Himself
@utkarshpandey6424
@utkarshpandey6424 3 жыл бұрын
What? You think robert deniro from Cape fear is same as rd in taxi driver which is same as rd in raging bul same as goodfellas which is same as awakening which is same as rd in meet the fockers? What do you mean
@RasMajnouni
@RasMajnouni 3 жыл бұрын
@@utkarshpandey6424 KZbin comments are open to intelligent people as well as idiots like myself. Its my opinion and obviously 99% of film fans will disagree and fine. I may be wrong. NOT that he is NOT a good actor,I have seen him in very few films where he broke away and acted a character not the central one he mostly plays.But in comparring him to some (not many) fine actors like Daniel Day Lewis and many British actors who simply are different in 30 roles,never repeating their own personality. Again, I do respect other people's opinions. PFOOF: ALL of us decide which film to watch and often we decide not to watch a n actor who can't act but plays himself each time.
@eharper7
@eharper7 3 жыл бұрын
No offense meant (seriously) but he never understands anything unless it's political.
@stereo-type1510
@stereo-type1510 4 жыл бұрын
Thats it
@Saltedslug382
@Saltedslug382 3 жыл бұрын
DeNiro doesn't understand a lot of things...
@beinDAman
@beinDAman 5 жыл бұрын
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@도영민-w4c
@도영민-w4c 4 жыл бұрын
DeNiro is Lindsay Lohan`s Uncle
@nyg_dbone
@nyg_dbone 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad that scene wasn’t real when De Niro got his brains blown out
@patrickcharlton1351
@patrickcharlton1351 5 жыл бұрын
Robert deniro doesnt know who he is. Listen to him, hes clueless. Lets not mention politics. Lets make america great again!!!
@degenerategambler4830
@degenerategambler4830 5 жыл бұрын
Get your political opinion out of the way and comment something constructive relating to the video next time. Who cares if deniro dislikes trump, there’s millions others out there that do too. He’s a pos anyway.
@kingshekk6882
@kingshekk6882 5 жыл бұрын
Patrick Charlton bruh
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you, Trumptard.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you. Trump hates you. He inherited his money.
@LJ-wm1bl
@LJ-wm1bl 4 жыл бұрын
shut up
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