2224 Energy Storage Game Changer - The Eindhoven Heat Battery

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@TheBushMaster
@TheBushMaster 10 ай бұрын
Be aware quicklime will blind you if you get it in your eyes. It used to be used in ancient battles. They would throw it into the faces of enemy solders so they couldn't fight. It may also have been used in Greek fire.
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 10 ай бұрын
So will caustic soda if it gets into your eyes.
@TheBushMaster
@TheBushMaster 10 ай бұрын
@@muahaha5929You got that right.
@michahaas9148
@michahaas9148 5 ай бұрын
@@TheBushMaster so use of glases would be aprecited. Kids are seeing this.
@j.rumbleseed
@j.rumbleseed 10 ай бұрын
The largest waste heat suppliers that I have found are Brake disc foundries. I proposed the generation of hydrogen to the brake disc foundry, but they laughed at me...However...Steam blown through Iron particles generates enormous amounts of hydrogen rich steam....An old book that I have "Industrial Hydrogen" by Hugh S. Taylor D. Sc 1917. clearly outlined how to create hydrogen from steam and Iron. A brake disc foundry has both waste heat and scrap iron...Which would be a modern way to move toward a hydrogen economy. The issue at heart is simply this...Corporations are ran by stupid idiots.
@allenhammer7923
@allenhammer7923 10 ай бұрын
Just because you get degree does not mean you are inventive. Most folks learn how to do something but that does not mean they know how it works they just repeat actions and can not carry on a conversation of how to improve it.
@JSabh
@JSabh 10 ай бұрын
The danger associated with high temperature, iron oxide, and hydrogen is why they laughed. It would never fly with any level of safety. The same reason every petroleum plant exploded is because they use a spark wall to re-crack the gas. Then oxygen creeps in somewhere and the plant blows up. Look into it, it's very interesting.
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 10 ай бұрын
The amounts of iron grindings from manufacturing processes is minisculte compared to the amount of hydrogen needed, also waste iron is currently recycled so diverting it to make hydrogen will just raise iron smelting needs, and iron smelting is carbon intensive. Their is stupid idiocy in the world but one should do their own homework before accusing others.
@grinchyface
@grinchyface 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand why a brake disc foundry would want to produce iron oxide. They spent all this money popping the oxide off of iron, why would they spend money to reverse the process to produce hydrogen? Then what would they do with the iron oxide? Send it back to a refinery and pay them to turn it back into iron at a greater expense energetically and economically? No matter how that's sliced, the physics don't work. And if the physics don't work, the economics can't work.
@Coen80
@Coen80 10 ай бұрын
Corporations are run by, most of the time, mediocre people. Not idiots, but certainly not the bright minds either. The company was just laughing at you because it is more expensive. And as long as fossil fuel remains cheaper industry will keep polluting.
@michaelsohocki1573
@michaelsohocki1573 10 ай бұрын
I live in San Antonio, where we have a huge number of 110F days. The heat part, if that's what the exothermic stuff is for-- is taken care of here--if I could ship you 40% of our entire net heat here, they'd build a memorial to me. As it is, nobody here would touch their car with the bare skin, because it will literally burn you. Crayons and plastic objects left in the car melt and warp, open the door and you can smell the carpet cooking. You can rig up, in about fifteen minutes, a solar collector (such as the parabolic mirror, or solar cooker, or fresnel lens, or whatever) that will knock your socks off. I guarantee you can fry chicken with it. The problem, it seems to me (as you've mentioned before, Rob), is the cost of the Peltier device to perform this conversion at any meaningful scale. So here's the big ask. Do you think it would be possible to create LARGE SCALE peltier-like devices on the cheap, to make USE of all this ridiculous heat we have? (I will happily send half of my proceeds to Great Britain.)
@andytrewin
@andytrewin 10 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, I trailed a sodium acetate tri-hydrate heat battery for a certain company - for one reason or another they all failed - Over all, I have now had 7 x 9kWh units, the last one I am awaiting collection of but I will not be doing any more trials. Its back to a simple divert excess generation to an immersion element in a cylinder for me. Shame, the idea in principle is good.
@orcoastgreenman
@orcoastgreenman 10 ай бұрын
What problems develop with them?
@DavidWilliams-yh6pq
@DavidWilliams-yh6pq 10 ай бұрын
That battery sounds like it was designed for geothermal projects
@chaoskiller1758
@chaoskiller1758 10 ай бұрын
This battery design doesn't work. It leaks energy constantly. Even if it was put in a geothermal project, it wouldn't really do much failed. Battery tech needs to be thrown away.
@dermotbalaam5358
@dermotbalaam5358 10 ай бұрын
@@chaoskiller1758Evidence?
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 10 ай бұрын
Great info, thanks for making this video. That was impressively fast how quickly you were able to make one on the Eindhoven heat Battery! I guess one advantage of the Eindhoven is that the "fuel" can be recycled, and remain cool when not needed.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
cheers mate and yes exactly
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
But the cost of recycling is the question, that determines where your energy loss/financials show it's true value and with carbon becoming a taxable commodity that too has to be factored in.
@CelloSounds1
@CelloSounds1 10 ай бұрын
It’d be interesting to see how much improvement can be had if you mix exo and endothermic reactions either side of a peltier device
@jasondreams202
@jasondreams202 10 ай бұрын
I thought that’s where he was going. I too am curious how much of a difference that makes
@mrvgranfield
@mrvgranfield 10 ай бұрын
I just loved this video . When I was last in Thailand a tremendous wind came from nowhere I asked what was going on as it was calm then about an 80 mph gust came .Rain come now said my girlfriend at the time .All the land in the area is clay and after months of no rain as the deluge of rain hit the clay the first bursts of Monsoon downpour this would of caused a massive heat reaction over a vast area as this hot gust past the deluge came minuets later after that a stillness . Now I finally understand this mystery, thank you
@waltersaunders7699
@waltersaunders7699 6 ай бұрын
Another great video of possibilities. Thanks Robert
@milohobo9186
@milohobo9186 10 ай бұрын
I love my solar cooker. I would love to have more uses like this
@szogun1987
@szogun1987 10 ай бұрын
I think it may be a solution to my problem. I have a summer house. It has floor heating to keep it above freezing in winter. Heat comes from a large wood burning boiler and is stored in a 1000 liter water heat battery. The idea was to heat it up once a week if winter would be cold (like -25C) and once for 2 weeks when it would be around freezing point. The problem is the boiler and battery are stored in the old cowshed. Temperature there is low (-5 when there is -20 outside) heat battery dumps it's heat to the cowshed. Especially when it is almost fully charged. As I have a lot of wood ash I can have plenty of potassium carbonate and use it as a second layer (like once water battery would be above 65 degree I can start drying KCO3 and once it would drop below 15 I can put water into it.
@mpgtrikes
@mpgtrikes 10 ай бұрын
Why not do the drying by pulling a vacuum with a little bit of solar photovoltaic and a scroll compressor, add a little bit of a solar thermal heat of some sort to speed the process up. A lot like modern high efficiency washer dryer dries the clothes using vacuum
@kennethkostyniuk9072
@kennethkostyniuk9072 10 ай бұрын
Wow ... First one up to see this...Cool! Keep up the good work...
@michaelcerkez3895
@michaelcerkez3895 10 ай бұрын
Ah, the wind has been blowing constantly all day today in the South East U.S. This would have been a great day to have a VWAT going today. See you have me hooked.
@simongross3122
@simongross3122 10 ай бұрын
Great information, thanks. I'm intrigued by the fact that urea will cool down when it gets wet. Perhaps we can make more efficient water cooling devices this way. Perhaps it can be used to cool down solar cells on Australian rooftops without using too much water.
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 10 ай бұрын
notable issues, including with other 'no-cost' energy sources, ir energy density and source amount. Example: these would take an amount of zeolite equivalent to the size of a shed to power a house unless you're really frugal. And to recharge by drying in the sun would take either a long time or a huge area, as your sun collector would need to collect enough energy to dry the zeolite or whatever in under a day. And you'd need enough storage and water for a few days. So now you need to roof over half an acre...
@BB-sm8ey
@BB-sm8ey 10 ай бұрын
You are being too absolutist. You only need a few tonnes for periods where solar isn't providing enough input. It's also the reason such systems typically send damp air through the system to get hot dry air out of the back.
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 10 ай бұрын
@@BB-sm8ey Depends on the task. If you want a short-term 'battery backup', yes--but it still needs to be in thin layer or layers to dry fast from absorbed sunlight. That 'couple of tonnes' could still take up a tennis court or more, and if you're using sun-drying only you need a bunch more than that. Now, if you set it up with sun-concentrator mirrors and vertical panels it'll take us a lot less space, but you're adding cost and infrastructure. However, you may need to do it that way to get the energy back out usefully.
@BB-sm8ey
@BB-sm8ey 10 ай бұрын
@@thekaxmax Hi. If you do the maths it comes out differently. If it interests you look for papers on a institutional install in München/Haidhausen. They used seven tonne setup. As a rough rule of thumb it's about 1tonne per 100qm of reasonably well insulated living space (not passive home standard).
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
@@BB-sm8ey Nice to have some metrics ! What about the minimum "temp for some times " needed in some case (like with sodium acetate heat pack system) ? About the surface, I was thinking it could be interesting to use the south side roof of the house, and the storage could be in the back, in an unused side of the house . Using the roof, or simply collecting the dry and hot air heating under the roof and going out by the upper vent. There, it would dry kind of linked pillows/conveyor belt full of zeolite. When dried enough, the conveyor would run enough time to expose the next "pillow" to the driying place, etc. They'd go to the north's storage, and be used later when needed. A more basic way could be a solar hoven with a standard meshed box full of zeolite, that we could take off by hand in a waterproof storage when reloaded, then take back into the woodstove, and let drip water on it to release heat when needed.
@Biggles732
@Biggles732 10 ай бұрын
Potash may be strategic ly necessary however for agriculture. Around 1979 the use of sodium sulphide for the same purpose was discussed in popular science and a house constructed using itfor heating .
@quangobaud
@quangobaud 10 ай бұрын
Some KZbin creators have THE BEST viewership with the most interesting and informed views. If there was a KZbin comment reader app/site, I'd spend even more time reading them than I already do. These "heat difference gradient" devices and methods are everywhere with great variety as Robert shows in his vids. Business would prefer we only use their "commercially profitable" products to supply energy/heating. Heat-pumps ("reverse fridges") and Stirling Engines would definitely make a massive contribution to reducing fossil fuel use (though they would possibly enlarge the chemical/chemistry industries ... and increase their energy use). Commenters have mentioned ways of producing hydrogen for the nascent ("burgeoning"?) Hydrogen Economy. We should all remember that the processes we take for granted today had to be worked on (and then have been developed and refined) over decades (and centuries). Robert produces absorbing content with ideas and knowledge I don't get from any other (engineering) channel. Just hope he never has to do those cringeworthy in video ads like some of my other favourite creators are now doing.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
KZbin comment search is a good tool for that. But now it doesn't work anymore for me ...
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew 10 ай бұрын
Nice one Robert!
@iangregory3719
@iangregory3719 9 ай бұрын
The exothermic properties of Soda Lime are used in a device called "The Little Dragon". Developed by cave rescue teams, as a spin off from diving re-breathers, to prevent/treat hypothermia. Its a container holdind a quantity of soda lime into which is squirted a small ammount of CO2 - from a home brew keg - the CO2 activates the soda lime, and the heat produced is used to pre-heat outside air, which is inhaled by the casualty, which helps to raise their internal core temperature.
@HalEvans
@HalEvans 10 ай бұрын
Robert, as always well researched, very informative and a compelling presention. THANK YOU. My main concern and one I've raised before is being able to integrate any system, no matter how simple or inovative, with established 'on grid' infrastructure. To emphasise my point, do you supplement your own electrical supply with any device? With your expertise and access to tools, parts, etc. I would've anticipated a power wall storage type energy sink with an array of potential inputs, fed by your wind, solar peltier, metal air battery, etc. prototypes. If you haven't started to harness the power you're making, how viable is doing so and what chance do we stand of doing this ourselves?
@georgemckenzie2525
@georgemckenzie2525 10 ай бұрын
Another banger. I keep thinking that the heat differential generator must be applicable in a residential siding. Its about -5 Fahrenheit outside and a steady 50 degrees in the basement...
@louisvl10
@louisvl10 10 ай бұрын
wow never thought of that, thanks for sharing!!
@matthewconnor5483
@matthewconnor5483 10 ай бұрын
This could be very useful for heating building. Use solare and ac waste heat to dry and then add water for heating, especially when its too cold for a heat pump.
@alexmousley7213
@alexmousley7213 10 ай бұрын
Another fascinating and educational video- this exothermal/endothermal way of creating heat is a game changer- scaled up and constantly improved could be a big part of reducing fossil fuel dependence (and, given that much of that is somewhat dependent on Russia is a vital move in the right direction).
@colleenforrest7936
@colleenforrest7936 10 ай бұрын
I got to thinking of an overlooked use for this reaction. It could also be used for transporting water in a solid, non-sloshy, form, which might be useful for materials transport.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
Great point!
@NickAskew
@NickAskew 10 ай бұрын
I'm living a bit further north in Leiden. I really think that this is a great idea. Many years ago we invested in solar panels but now the capacity of the houses with panels oustrips demand. Imagine if the grid could store the excess and deliver it back when the sun has gone. I'd happily pay for such a service rather than having batteries in my own house.
@fransvanberckel3789
@fransvanberckel3789 10 ай бұрын
I would say, use these panels to store the heat. With sand it will last for an half year. And use that energy when it's cold outside. Search Google for Rijswijk TNO thermal, for details.
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
The problem with it as a service your adding costs and the savings goes out the window yet again, then also the transport of power also adds to the cost, so much for trying to provide cheaper power.
@NickAskew
@NickAskew 10 ай бұрын
@@troywhite6039Yes, of course the off site battery option won't be as efficient as on site. But if the site of the battery is relatively close to the source of the power (within the same city or town) then losses are not going to be as significant. Many countries already have pumped hydroelectric storage as an offsite option. Obviously the Netherlands is not going to be able to to do that, but a heat storage system is going to be just one option. Now my house does have room for a battery and I'm OK with that as an option. But the option of grid storage would mean that people who are not so fortunate could at least play a part in solar even now that we are beyond the grid capacity.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
Check the work of "OffGrid Survival Mike" About his heat battery and rv fridge working on solar
@craigglewis
@craigglewis 10 ай бұрын
Always amazing to learn new things with you Rob. So you are going to build a home unit. Maybe s 2kw portable unit Are you on the power grid, and Why? Lol
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
Nice ! Is it possible to recharge the zeolite in a car exposed by sun, or a solar hoven ? So we could reload plenty of "pillows" days after days, store them in a watertight container for later, then put one in the fire stove, letting a waterbottle dripping on it to heat the house for grey days.... ? The problem is that zeolite in quantity is a bit expensive.
@banerifthammer4608
@banerifthammer4608 10 ай бұрын
Awesome bit of tech would like to hear more about it
@l0I0I0I0
@l0I0I0I0 10 ай бұрын
Love this stuff! ❤ TY! Potasium carbonate? Any size, smaller the better?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
in granules like it shows in the vid mate
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering What is the cheapest and easy way to get some usefull quantity ? Farmer's shop ?
@idiocracy10
@idiocracy10 10 ай бұрын
has there ever, in the history of Popular mechanics, been something featured in that magazine, that actually came to market?
@eastcorkcheeses6448
@eastcorkcheeses6448 10 ай бұрын
Ireland has loads of data centres , concentrated around dublin , they use a huge amount of electricity , and generate a buge amount of low grade waste heat ,
@travismoore7849
@travismoore7849 10 ай бұрын
That works with the cold outside air and the hot stove pipe with a heat sink for the cold air side.
@jackpalmer5067
@jackpalmer5067 10 ай бұрын
Another great video thank you very much
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
cheers mate
@venusayobami2179
@venusayobami2179 10 ай бұрын
Hello, I've always wondered if the Searl Effect Generator works... Please could you shed more light on it.... Thanks so much. Love you and your work❤
@Coen80
@Coen80 10 ай бұрын
Eindhoven.... I would expect a 'rain battery' in The Netherlands 😂😂😂😂😂
@fransvanberckel3789
@fransvanberckel3789 10 ай бұрын
It rains 2 millimeters a day on 192 days in the Netherlands, resulting in an average annual rainfall of 853 millimeters, which is 15,936 billion liters of rainwater per year.
@tomasviane3844
@tomasviane3844 10 ай бұрын
If it's too cheap to maintain and nobody really gets rich of it, it will probably be scrapped...
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
It's not cheap when you discover all that is left out if the factor.
@paddy2661
@paddy2661 10 ай бұрын
How long will zeolite stay Hot Rob ? Awesome video as always love this stuff.
@rickscaggs3089
@rickscaggs3089 10 ай бұрын
Like smith gauges in sport cars, they have smith refrigerator s why beer remains unchilled
@danp1224
@danp1224 10 ай бұрын
Do the chemical loose any form after how many cycles.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
Is it possible to "reload" in the sun the urea of the cold pack, like done with zeolite, or it is wasted after use ? Is there some cooling material usable like this that is cheaply accessible ?
@winstonsmith935
@winstonsmith935 10 ай бұрын
Ever walked in the Sahara desert, sand is bloody hot during the day, freezing at night. Add it to sand, secondary heat release many hours later.
@fransvanberckel3789
@fransvanberckel3789 10 ай бұрын
Isn't that what the sand battery principle is about? And sand battery, secondary heat release many weeks (if done well even months) later.
@tobyaustin9638
@tobyaustin9638 10 ай бұрын
Adaptations to wood burners for water heating and creating power would be interesting!?
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
YEah a stainless mesh basket fitting in the stove, a dripping bottle on top and let's go ! When finished, back to the logs storage, then to the sun hoven
@Red9GearHeads
@Red9GearHeads 10 ай бұрын
Imagine a small circular track, SS cars full of dried clay stopped in a reaction chamber, waters added, heat tapers and the system advances the train to replace the wet “car with a dry one. Round and round the train will go.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
Or a conveyor belt stuffed with zeolite, covering the south part of the roof, then when the material is dried, each "pillows" being folded back the house.
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
What stops the reaction? If it is the evaporation of the water, would stopping the water from escaping keep the reaction going????
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
You don't stop hydrogen, you only slow it's escape.
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
@@troywhite6039 Hydrogen? I thought it was just steam. I guess I'll have to pay closer attention rather than multitasking so much.😅
@billschwandt1
@billschwandt1 10 ай бұрын
This is excellent. I really needed to see this. Does this mean that "cold" is negative charge and "hot" is positive?
@quoudten
@quoudten 10 ай бұрын
endothermic (heat absorbing) vs exothermic (heat releasing) completely different concepts, completely different physical domain
@billschwandt1
@billschwandt1 10 ай бұрын
@@quoudten negative finds positive like cold rushes toward warm
@quoudten
@quoudten 10 ай бұрын
@@billschwandt1 electrons (electro magnetic energy) are positively or negatively charged, thermal energy arises from internal molecular states, at a certain level (micro or nano scale, really really really small) it becomes useful to consider "phonon", not a typo, states, but at the macro talking about the differential temperature is good enough.
@billschwandt1
@billschwandt1 10 ай бұрын
@@quoudten I rally do think high pressure and low pressure, hot and cold, acid base, north pole south pole positive negative, hot cold, all the same thing basically. The static electric field.
@quoudten
@quoudten 10 ай бұрын
@@billschwandt1 you can't study things by saying "it's all the same", you have resolve differences between objects to understand how those objects interact or are affected by their environment. Yes, there are similar and analogous aspects between different domains, it's even reflected in the math, but there are also important differences, important enough to warrant different language, models, and tools to study each individually.
@carly09et
@carly09et 10 ай бұрын
This is interesting, the ideas resulting from paten expiry. Patens slow commercial exploitation which 'kills' technology research/development of the key physics.
@Barskor1
@Barskor1 10 ай бұрын
If they keep the cells under hard vacuum and added a steam capture and condensation/water tank unit per cell then adding water to the second cell would dryout and thus recharge the first cell and so on in a series you could ripple on forever.
@merinummi9123
@merinummi9123 10 ай бұрын
Love the idea of rippling the reaction, but I think it would be quite complicated and/or energy consuming to keep the vacuum when water starts to evaporate because of the expansion rate of water into gas is something like 1:1700.
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
Steam power is highly regulated, licensing and government control extract and exceed any savings from it via extortion like all tax based schemes.
@chrisbingham3289
@chrisbingham3289 10 ай бұрын
Question Robert is there any power other than heat generated from the chemical reaction .
@mikedodger7898
@mikedodger7898 10 ай бұрын
I tried buying Zeolite here in Canada and I tested the reaction ... no luck 😢. Not sure why. Anyone have any ideas?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
te best is X13 so make sure it is that type for guarenteed success mate
@tebbi67
@tebbi67 10 ай бұрын
I wish you use a thermalcam, to show how the temperature is making his way.....thx for the vid.
@kevinroberts781
@kevinroberts781 10 ай бұрын
I'll be honest with ya. Burning wood is the easiest way to create energy for the average person. We really need to bring this back in to style. Energy costs will drop over night
@Hermit_of_the_Holler
@Hermit_of_the_Holler 10 ай бұрын
Anthracite Coal for me
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
@@Hermit_of_the_Holler Si I don't need to heat my house, you'r already heating the planet^^^
@kevin_6217
@kevin_6217 10 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing. They managed to pack a twenty foot container with the energy of a gallon and a half of diesel fuel... I wonder how much diesel it takes to transport one of these to the drying facility and back again?
@rowanshole
@rowanshole 10 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. But given it is low grade heat it should be able to be done effectively in situ in the right circumstances. Many domestic solar and wind systems (that aren't grid tied) dump a lot of power throughout the year and the dump could be something such as this, or the other heat batteries Robert has covered in other vids. Probably not enough demand to make this a commercially viable product for sale, but of use to a do it yourselfer.
@Barskor1
@Barskor1 10 ай бұрын
Most of the "energy" in fosil fuel is wast heat
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, moving around such low energy dense materials is completly prohibitive. It needs to be recharched at the point of use. I Think zeolities have potential a long term backup heat sources, they could be dried by directing the homes normal exhast air over them to slowly dry them at littleo or no cost. It's not gonna be a homes main heating system, but it may act to fill a winter heating gap which would otherwise be filled with things like diesel generators.
@FuhrChris
@FuhrChris 10 ай бұрын
So, If I took a stainless steel (clothes dryer drum small used unit) and put it inside a large air duct, then in theory rotating the wet Sodium drox would lower it's own temperature creating an AC effect?
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 10 ай бұрын
Unless its's just coming up out of the ground in endless amounts (aka Geothermal) heat at a few hundred degrees is useless for power generation as per Carnot heat engine efficiency, so the only appliction for these exothermic reactions is direct heat usage. Only a small number of industrial processes (food processing mostly) can make use of heat at that temperature, which means the home heating market is all that's left. And even their I only really see water based exthermic reactions being attractive as a backup heat source, if you have had a lull in renewable energy production in winter (the infamous dunkelflaute as the Germans say). But the idea of moving the stuff around back and forth to industrial sites for recharge is a non-starter, better to recharge it at home by simply venting the homes normal exhast air over the materials to dry them again. Zeolites can be dried by room temperature air of sufficiently low humidity, it just takes a long time, but this is ok in a backup system which will be used just a few times a year.
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
The problem is the cost in scale, volume, storage and safety, as well as government regulation which always increases the cost.
@ghostindamachine
@ghostindamachine 10 ай бұрын
Most excellent!
@David_Mash
@David_Mash 10 ай бұрын
Supply heat energy > releases water. Supply water > releases heat energy
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
The price of water keeps going up like everything else. The price of "supplying" does also, somebody gets paid to do it at a premium.
@johnmarkgatti3324
@johnmarkgatti3324 10 ай бұрын
sterling Allens dad had a eutectic salts solar heat storage system in his house ,maybe 40 or 50 years ago ,wondered why it hasn't caught on ,for those that don't want to feed the plants their vital CO2 gas that is .
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
Disapproval and regulations have destroyed many a good idea.
@JSabh
@JSabh 10 ай бұрын
Chemistry is cool. Still, simply burying a pipe 8 ft underground for about 50 ft solves the heating and cooling of a home with a simple fan. This is great, but not practical for its cost and complexity if one has a 10ft by 10ft area to dig. Coiling the pipe, depending on the diameter of course, will determine how large the hole needs to be dug. Not water, just air being radiantly cooled or heated by the earth. Super simple and much cheaper. Sometimes people just over complicate things.
@Biggles732
@Biggles732 10 ай бұрын
That was done for a mother earth magazine article back in say 1980 .
@rowanshole
@rowanshole 10 ай бұрын
Where are the research grants in that?!
@KeithStafford-p4j
@KeithStafford-p4j 10 ай бұрын
some of your best work..... is on batteries!
@David_Mash
@David_Mash 10 ай бұрын
The extra energy is released as heat and sound but what if you offer it a path to released energy as electricity. A carbon catalyst to inspire electricity instead of heat?
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
Yeeesssss. That's what I was looking for! But I thought they didn't chill beer in the UK, I thought they drank it at room temperature?
@Biggles732
@Biggles732 10 ай бұрын
Rob in past has demonstrated urea fertilizer becoming very cold when water is added . Ammonium nitrate slightly better but no longer publicly available and costs have risen in last four years.
@LawrenceMarks27
@LawrenceMarks27 10 ай бұрын
Would you be able to use the cold reaction on one side of the peltier and the hot reaction on the other? Would that increase its effect at all, or is it no different than running each off of its own peltier?
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
Peltier is still expensive and fragile, too much heat shortens it's life span and even destroys it, has to be controlled too precisely.
@selfcorrected-Bobby
@selfcorrected-Bobby 10 ай бұрын
would wreak havoc if you put it in your enemy's rice crispies box, hahaha!
@101jchristensen
@101jchristensen 10 ай бұрын
Think of home energy sources in the previous century. You would have a coal delivery if you had a coal furnace, or an oil truck for an oil furnace, or even a truck delivering firewood. Now, think of zeolite deliveries, dried by the waste heat of the local pizza joint, bakeries, and other waste heat sources, including local entrepreneurs building small scale solar drying facilities. Not so strange or futuristic.
@steved4429
@steved4429 10 ай бұрын
So are these Cellcius guys using Peltier devices? Because my research suggests they are only about 4% efficient!?
@Russmayra
@Russmayra 10 ай бұрын
Please fix the quality of sound and turn up the volume.😊
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
I think this was a compilation of old and new videos on the sound issue.
@dermotbalaam5358
@dermotbalaam5358 10 ай бұрын
Sounds fine to me!
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 10 ай бұрын
Didn't the Netherlands have a bunch of cogeneration plants where the exhaust steam from the power stations was used for district heating and industrial process heat? Now that they've closed many of their coal burning power stations and replaced them with wind, they have the most expensive electricity on earth, and a lack of heat for buildings.
@andrewhoward7200
@andrewhoward7200 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Germany has the same, it's called Fernwärme. The pipes run overground from factories and waste disposal sites. Germany is now in crisis because of their insane ideological aversion to both fossil fuels and nuclear power; industry is crippled through high energy prices and is leaving the country.
@fransvanberckel3789
@fransvanberckel3789 10 ай бұрын
Adding heat from greenhouses to grow lettuce and tomatoes is used for district heating.
@jtmvintage
@jtmvintage 10 ай бұрын
Could you use Acetone and Copper reactions
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
Heat pipes and heat loops ?
@lightcapmath2777
@lightcapmath2777 10 ай бұрын
"Salt in a tin" love it RMS. How much would it take to have such a device to run a simple house? let UK pound nor US Dollares be a factor. Am very curious. a game changer it is. Best DVD:)...P.S. how is Luke doing at University? DVD:)
@FuhrChris
@FuhrChris 10 ай бұрын
How many cycles will this stuff work?
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
That's what I was wondering about too.
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 10 ай бұрын
I think it can be recycled for decades...
@Nordic_Mechanic
@Nordic_Mechanic 10 ай бұрын
I'd buy a link to download all your videos for safe keeping. There are excellent introductions to a plentora of physic and technological principles. Anyone else would?
@kevinleesmith
@kevinleesmith 10 ай бұрын
Can u think and tinker about making sure your audio is synced with ur video!
@VrilyaSS
@VrilyaSS 10 ай бұрын
I believe you can run a stirling on 2 different gem stone-types, for some of these mini stirling engines only need 2 degree celcius difference in temperature to run, you just have to find the right gems or stones, one day i dream of going into a gem sone store with a heat camera and get out with 2 or more stones with high temperature difference and build myself a nonstop-stirling engine powered by heat difference of gem stones/stones, i believe this is possible, some stirling motors are ablke to rzun with the heat of the hand , just 2 degree celciuss difference and i think this can be archieved with different minerals or gems/stones, what do you think?Motoflux Magnetic Coupling Overunity Magnet Motor Review soon?
@remcovanvliet3018
@remcovanvliet3018 10 ай бұрын
You can buy thermal cameras that connect to the USB C port on your smartphone from China for not a whole lot of money. Your dream of taking a thermal cam to a gem shop might not be as unattainable as it seems. Just Google USB C thermal camera.
@russellgilson3536
@russellgilson3536 10 ай бұрын
What size stirling would u need to power a generator for lights for your house, what size gems.
@wesKEVQJ
@wesKEVQJ 10 ай бұрын
I read a book once about a couple who went out to sea with the woman's brother. He was one of those who doesn't look before pulling out of the driveway because if they got hit it would be God's will. Anyways, they got into a storm and it wrecked their boat, the idiot bil throws away the solar water deaslinator.He also lied about having a radio license and knowing how to use the radio. Later on the bil dies and gets fed to the sister who also dies. It was all very tragic.
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a threesome love triangle gone wrong. They must have been from Kentucky. 🤪🤣
@ThePataks
@ThePataks 10 ай бұрын
surely focused sunlight can get enough heat to dry the cells
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
Sure but then you need a constant water source, this has become a hydrothermal process if where to store the water and at what costs. Think size and volumes. Where do you store your homes lake and everyone elses?
@VRtechman
@VRtechman 10 ай бұрын
I guess I'm only here because of my history with Mr. Wizard. Some things must be explained to us who are not that bright. 😢
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
If you keep adding water does it stay hot?
@101jchristensen
@101jchristensen 10 ай бұрын
Sadly, no 😊. Chemical reactions occurred between individual molecules of the two things reacting. So let's say the reaction is 1 molecule of zeolite reacts with 1 molecule of water and gives off heat. If I add 100 molecules of water to 100 molecules of zeolite, all the water and all the zeolite will have reacted and additional water will have no zeolite to react with. Now If I started off with 200 molecules of zeolite and added 100 molecules of water, THEN adding more water would produce more heat. But at some point, the water molecules will run out of zeolite molecules. At that point the zeolite will need to be dried out so it can be reused to produce heat. Does that make sense?
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
@@101jchristensen So after the steam stops is there still water remaining? Then you have to apply more heat to dry it out?
@williamgidrewicz4775
@williamgidrewicz4775 10 ай бұрын
Sort of like space which is very cold and our planet which is warm. The difference in temperatures plus the earth's magnetic field lines which trap what is it hydrogen and oxygen ions? or just one or the other? This earth, in the vast cold of space, is so to say a giant battery!
@1973Raido
@1973Raido 10 ай бұрын
Wait, 2 in the Netherlands and 1 in Holland? So that's 3 in the Netherlands/Holland?
@johnruckman2320
@johnruckman2320 10 ай бұрын
So how much would it take for the average home, farm, that can be continuously recycled in both of the endo and exo thermic devices? What would the costs likely be like? Could something like this be a game changer in the bantered shtf scenario or biblical end times scenario where the sun and moon go dark. It does look like something that could be used in one of those disaster or steam punk video games. Come to think of it, I've never seen a video game that used science, engineering, rednecking devices.
@Asphyr
@Asphyr 10 ай бұрын
"Oxygen Not Included" is all about trying to make most out of the environment your colony is spawned in. A lot of fun but also pretty exhausting to play.
@MB-st7be
@MB-st7be 10 ай бұрын
Cool vid, but maybe sort out the microphone volume levels, they're all over the place
@jeremyduke715
@jeremyduke715 10 ай бұрын
Heat only works for less than 2 minutes. It isn't enough for a refrigerator or stove top.
@NextGenerationHealth
@NextGenerationHealth 10 ай бұрын
Where can we get this clay to experiment with?
@troywhite6039
@troywhite6039 10 ай бұрын
From the ground like everything else.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades 5 ай бұрын
ebay of sometimes as pet litter...
@kellyb.mcdonald1863
@kellyb.mcdonald1863 10 ай бұрын
Thank You!!! We all want a greener environment, and what you propose will help a lot!!! but I can one up you, and say that in the times of ancient Lemuria we utilized dielectric piezo electric quartz crystal nodules, and had vehicles and craft of every conceivable configuration that operated under magnetic levitation of some sort, and we had cities that floated 10 miles up in the Stratosphere!!! And the Bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. will never want to see this temple, and hundreds of additional holy temples go online again, after more than 10,000 years of being a dormant technology. This kind of technology does not lend itself to commercial enterprises, or War!!! it's holy like Jesus is Holy!!! Just Be Holy and Namaste!!! Kelly!!! and in my past incarnation I was a Energy Healer and the non-gendered late Empress Mary of The Temple Lemuria, that sank way out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean more than 10,000 years ago. Have A Beautiful Day!!! Lightworker, and Energy Healer, and Everything Too!!! Take Care!!! Bye!!! Bye!!! Bye!!!
@101jchristensen
@101jchristensen 10 ай бұрын
Yikes.
@kellyb.mcdonald1863
@kellyb.mcdonald1863 10 ай бұрын
I Bet You Waited Your Whole Lifetime To Hear Someone Say A Thing Like. For Those Words To Come Out Of My Mouth Or, Any Bodies Mouth, For That Matter!!! But I Was Sincere, and Meant Every Word Of What I Said. So You Go On And Exclaim In Holy Terror!!! I would see the world I talked about, and you would run from it, Shrieking in Terror!!! I'll still hope you have a beautiful day!!! and I want to see Mother Earth survive the folly of man, and global warming,. The kind of technology I represent will not contribute to greenhouse gases, like fossil fuels do today, and everyday. If all of this wasn't enough, I'll tell you I eat a Vegan Diet, and I'm a Teatotaler, and I detoxified my Pineal Gland, and am psychic. Which you would have probably preferred not to hear. I Send My Best To You!!! Have a Beautiful Day!!! Sincerely, Kelly @@101jchristensen
@Vibe77Guy
@Vibe77Guy 10 ай бұрын
How much power could you get out of a 6 cylinder Sterling engine? LOL.
@kevin_6217
@kevin_6217 10 ай бұрын
If you ACTUALLY think about it, it's a reeeeeeealy stupid idea. How about you try to harvest the extra heat from factories and turn it into electricity, rather than making a wet gravel machine?
@ancapftw9113
@ancapftw9113 10 ай бұрын
Because you would have to attach a power plant to every heat source, and would only get 30% of the power as electricity at that temperature. Better to just store the heat and use it to heat during winter.
@corinneyeager
@corinneyeager 10 ай бұрын
Could a person use this in, say , a sand battery to heat the sand and a steam engine Obviously I'm no expert ... Seems like several containers in a large sand container could heat it at least to heat a room, and several of those wheel things on top for elect. To run icebox....
@lauchlanguddy1004
@lauchlanguddy1004 10 ай бұрын
no safety goggles....
@daves4026
@daves4026 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting makes me think about the short video of a USA man who got a car working on water alone but was killed and conspiracy theory’s where abound. Although I scoffed at it at the time I m thinking he might have been on to something now
@markhodgson2348
@markhodgson2348 10 ай бұрын
And still your avoiding the energy solution
@claudesilverio677
@claudesilverio677 10 ай бұрын
Potash and Graphite, really
@portugal1969
@portugal1969 10 ай бұрын
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 10 ай бұрын
cheers mate
@Mark_Linford
@Mark_Linford 15 күн бұрын
😊
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
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@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew 10 ай бұрын
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@sebastienloyer9471
@sebastienloyer9471 10 ай бұрын
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@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 10 ай бұрын
LOL
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