💸 Greenley by Parfums de Marly | Unboxing Series 🎁 GREEN APPLE / MUSK / CASHMERAN

[@RobbieSwan]

Thank you for being you and not changing after all these years. I really value your honesty and knowledge and the fact you're not afraid to be yourself on camera. Love the content man. Greetings from Copenhagen, Denmark

[@robes08]

Thank you so much for the support all the way from Denmark!

[@RainySunday21]

That reaction on body spraying tho 😂 😂 Oh those scent memories of realizing one has just made a huge mistake by trusting the first notes before others start punching one in the face. Good times. Part of the adventure 😅

[@robes08]

😅

[@TheJlorette]

I’m here for this. You’re in my top two favourite reviewers. Love your approach and style of presentation.

[@robes08]

Appreciate that! Who's with me in the top two?

[@andrewmanzanares6618]

Yeah Mark is a refreshing voice in the sea of "top 10s" and "panty droppers". He is not here to make friends, he's just here to review fragrances. This modern age of reviewers are more about selling products than actually being a useful source of information to others. I love this old school style of reviewing.

[@alexandersvensson8841]

For me it's the 🐏

[@TheJlorette]

⁠@@andrewmanzanares6618 Yeah I agree. I think one of the main reasons I prefer Marc is that I wear fragrance for myself, not for others or the chance that undergarments may succumb to gravity… I don’t tune in to be sold anything and I think Marc is authentic and is in for the “love of the game”. If he’s not, he’s got me fooled.

[@TheJlorette]

@@robes08 Has to be Justin Copeland. You both are at the top of my very short list.

[@jasonhoward3643]

Your honest reviews are truly appreciated! Whenever someone seeks advice on fragrance influencers, your name is the first to come up. Thank you for your enlightening content, Robes! However, I have to admit, when I tried Greenly, it felt somewhat ordinary. It didn't seem to justify its high price tag. While it may garner compliments, to me, it smelled synthetic and overpriced for its offerings.

[@robes08]

Awesome! I really appreciate that my friend. Thank you so much and I agree with your thoughts on Greenley.

[@jaroslawgambal5634]

Hahaha...what the introduction...my man 😂. On the spot as always

[@robes08]

😎

[@Ulvaeus]

I find all the negative comments so funny. Honestly folks, you like what you like. There is far too much snobbery in the fragrance community. I’m not a huge fan in general of the PDM’s I’ve tried, but I actually quite like Greenley, particularly the dry down. And if you don’t that’s just fine.

[@ishmael737]

The snobbery do be on another lv. Watch his vid cuz I expect a negative and harsh review. But we like wat we like. Pdm is overpriced tho

[@robes08]

thanks for sharing.

[@viggenone]

The story about the name... priceless! Another one that I don't need and I have to mention I hate PDM bottles, the cap is Ok, it doubles as a weapon but the two horses in the bottle 😬 Another Green Apple fragrance? FM Promise maybe? But you already have it. Thanks for the Unboxing Marc!!!

[@robes08]

No problemo! I'm starting to collect these horsey bottles now lol

[@wutru3142]

Love the forced smile in the thumbnail. It suits you haha

[@robes08]

this shall be my PDM thumbnail picture as of today.

[@mauricesas7650]

PDM and Initio are the Souljaboyfication of the fragrance world. Charging insane prices for designer smelling fragrances based on youtube hype.

[@robes08]

They perfected the social media thing and be successful off it. They should really teach classes.

[@bogdantoneff2693]

I completely agree with you. Never understood the appeal of the brand. They just don't offer anything special in terms of scentprofiles nor quality. A *meh*brand at best for a premium pricetag That's a no in my book.

[@mauricesas7650]

@@bogdantoneff2693 I'm not a PDM hater but i can't justify their price tag. Before fragrance influencers on youtube PDM was almost nowhere available and they never had a topseller. PDM is not a creative brand that makes unique or groundbreaking fragrances.

[@Lee-ofar]

Appreciate your honesty!

[@robes08]

Always!

[@sbespn3820]

I consider you the original fragrance reviewer. You were in the game way before anyone else pretty much.

[@robes08]

Pretty much, fragrance reviewer number 004 checking in. Respect to the ones before me (Tim, Cubby, Katie).

[@Leonard_Washington76]

Can’t wait to see your Carlisle video. I know it’s coming??! It’s my personal favorite and I think it’s really the best one PDM made.

[@robes08]

I'll take a little PDM break but I'm sure one will be coming in the coming months, I might go Initio again and try to balance things out with this line.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

@@robes08 Initio Paragon perhaps???

[@Jesus-Christ-Is-Our-King]

@@robes08Please do one on the Oud For Greatness, if you didn’t do one already.

[@levanabrzeni]

Honestly, this one is pleasant yet simple enough to think that Zara would put out a fragrance like this

[@robes08]

Zara could clone this rather easily I would assume.

[@princemichaelwilliam7137]

Honesty. Love it.

[@initdialog]

@robes08 Will you make a Layton review?

[@plamenski5244]

from their newer freshies I like Sedley much better, but I can see why so many like Greenly in the heat. Habdan is still the best PDM I've smelled, hopefully you'll get your hands on it so we can hear your take on that underrated gem. 👍

[@robes08]

I actually own Habdan and have a video on it, it's an old video but it's there!

[@boogiedaddy3434]

ELDO does 2 of my favorite green apple scents: Experimentum Crucis and I Am Trash. The former is aromatic rose with a base full of laundry musks reminiscent of the stuff Francis K likes to use in his freshies, though I think Quentin Bisch is the nose. Some say the rose is the star but the apple sings loudest on my skin. I Am Trash is almost like its lighter, more ethereal second cousin. It's nearly a whisper of a scent, but man I do like it on a particularly hot day.

[@robes08]

I am Trash is a gem!

[@aaronandelise]

I have a few PDM’s and think they are generally good. I have about 200 frags, mostly niche. That being said Greenley is my most complimented scent that I own. I have had many coworkers buy bottles because they like it on me. On my skin it is a beastmode scent that does smell great. It is not my favorite frag, but it is in my top five, the compliments may help raise its number, but I generally love the scent myself.

[@robes08]

you sound like an influencer lol , it's sexy, beast mode, compliments every day lol all kidding aside enjoy the scent my friend.

[@aaronandelise]

@@robes08 I’m no one, just a person that appreciates frags. Greenley gets me tons of compliments. I am in a warm climate, but mainly work indoors. It lasts an easy 14+ hours on me. My favorite is Profumum Roma Patchouly. I have Jovoy Psychedelic and Maison Crivelli Parchouli Magnetik as well that are in my top 10, but Profumum Roma Patchouli lasts forever and smells insane to me.

[@nikk_we]

Appreciate your independence and honesty very much 🙏

[@robes08]

✊ fighting the good fight

[@seldina1]

Love the shirt! A good green apple fragrance is Apple Brandy by By Killian 🍏🥃

[@robes08]

Oh right , apple brandy, I'll need to revisit my bottle as I don't remember the apple being granny smith but now you have me interested back into it.

[@tzfragrance]

I like this one as a warm weather casual wear, but waiting on a solid clone for sure. Not worth anywhere near its price-tag. Mid-level designer certainly. Cafe Tabac from Aedes de Venustas was a recent sample that I had a tried that had a nice green apple. Thanks for this review, Marc! Enjoyed walking through this one with you!

[@robes08]

Ooh there's a brand I haven't heard of in a while, good ol' Aedes. Thanks for stopping by, always a pleasure!

[@kietngu9658]

Hi, new sub. How do I decant my PDM collection? Does FragFlex have decant affiliation?

[@robes08]

Sorry there's no affiliate to decant your own collection with fragflex.

[@Mrfpsara]

If you live in a hot and humid country greenly is heavenly, for Canada it doesn’t cut it for summer!

[@robes08]

In Canada we don't want it lol. In a hot and humid country I'd suggest Menthe Fraiche by Heeley, Bigarade Concentree by Frederic Malle and that money would bring you an amazing scent profile.

[@Mrfpsara]

@@robes08 thank you so much, I will check your recommendations, it’s very hard to find scents with good quality and performance here.

[@apprentice008]

thank you for another great review, i like the Apple in Brioni Intense EDP, i really think you will enjoy this fragrance.

[@robes08]

That one is on the list to sniff.

[@apprentice008]

looking forward to hearing your thoughts, btw i love when you share some knowledge about influencers, backgrounds on the fragrances and humour 👍🏻

[@boogiedaddy3434]

Oh man, I forgot about that one. As far as designers go, the Brioni EDP and Intense are really nice. I wasn't expecting much, but instantly bought the Intense after getting a decant.

[@joyamin954]

Greenley is more appealing for the masses. People who are not into complex fragrances, its nice like apple brandy on the rocks, good for everyday use in summer days. But its way overpriced for what it is. But so is adg,mib and other new designer frags like luna rossa :(

[@robes08]

Don't get me started with prices and brands, but when I sense quality vs price is grossly different I feel I need to mention it in reviews.

[@Namo81]

Hahah 😂😂😂 loved the intro

[@robes08]

😎

[@justaddlight]

Crazy how well those green glasses fit you. 😂 Toppa da marnin' to ya. 🎩🍀 I've seen some comparisons to Lacoste Red which to me is just one long apple syrup accord with a side of pool chlorine and sugar water...thoughts? Cause...the kiddies love that stuff. 🍏

[@robes08]

Ohh yes, actually thinking about it now I do have a bottle of that somewhere that I bought back in 2008. I go revisit that sugary stuff... but it did smell like something Lacoste would do...

[@AlexandreTasca]

Smell Molecule 05 and the turbocharged Ambroxan called AmberXtreme and you will understand what is there! And you should have looked at the box and said that everything is ok and in accordance with safety and sustainability laws!

[@robes08]

😂 I think i've done that joke a few too many times, let's give it a break for a month or so.

[@AlexandreTasca]

​@@robes08 😂

[@AlexandreTasca]

This joke is one of the best!

[@Itsmemulder]

Hey Marc ! One really good green apple fragrance is Oud Aquilaria by Oman Luxury, perfumed by Dominique Ropion, It’s a little on the heavy side but man it smells so classy. I’d get that one over this PDM any day .. I’d get anything instead of PDM to be honest 😂.

[@robes08]

Ropion is the man, so perhaps worth a sniff. I wrote down the name for reference, thank you!

[@PhreaSpirit]

Brioni Intense. I guess i am not the first one to suggest. Brilliant frag in designer's realm. It's still an imaginary green apple (on top of very familiar oud/saffron combo), but still very juicy. Where credit is due

[@robes08]

Apparently I need to get my nose on that Bioni.

[@brookybrookz2255]

Hey random question, what are your top 3 nasomatto fragrances?

[@robes08]

very random but let's see. Black Afgano for the win, Baraonda would be 2nd, and 3rd would be hmm maybe Pardon or Duro.

[@DHolmes419]

The fragrance that stands out to me in regard to green apple is Promise from Frederic Malle. The contrast between the green apple and Cypriol works somehow.

[@robes08]

ahhh of course! Great mention!

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

I've watched the video and read a few comments. I live on a sub-tropical island and I like Greenley a lot. This, Torino21 and Sedley work wonders for me.

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing!

[@michaelbullock8011]

Great video and I enjoyed it and I like this fragrance and I give it a 8.5 out of 10 in my opinion and have a blessed day

[@robes08]

8.5!!! Cut it in half and we can talk until then we aren't on speaking terms with a rating like that 😂

[@ryany2882]

I didn't like it smells cheap

[@corismaster7168]

Don't answer to bots Rob...no real person would use "and" 3x in one sentence

[@ryany2882]

I prefer sedley try & review that one if possible

[@robes08]

It will eventually find it's way to me.

[@Mrfpsara]

In Dubai most designers will disappear of the skin in 10 minutes, greenly performs well. Also most niche and sophisticated scents smell funky and awful in the heat unlike greenly, most pdms can be bought for 50% of the retail price….

[@robes08]

no need to defend it in the comments tbh but hey go ahead! I disagree with you as in Dubai I'd be wearing much better scents for the price they ask.

[@edwinp.]

Sedley next…it’s sexy, beast mode, most complimented, somewhat unique blue freshie, summer banger. There I got five!😂 can’t wait to see your take on it and see if at least one sticks.

[@robes08]

lol we will see what's next. I'd like to take a little break from the line for now. lol

[@JT-rx1eo]

Greenly is the only bottle of PdM I have. Yea its synthetic but the intense green apple is almost quasi mint like and I enjoy it. Yea don't overspray. The worst PdM Ive tried is Kalan. An incoherent mess. And synthetic.

[@robes08]

I'm scared to see what's next for me to sniff from the brand, some say Kalan is a star!

[@RambleStorm]

Love Greenley and it's probably going to be my next purchase I just need to hunt a bottle down(no hurries my decant's gonna last me till I can find one)...thing's been MIA for a bit on discounter sites in europe/uk at a reasonable price at least(not paying more than 150ish for a bottle that is a fair price for it IMO).

[@robes08]

I hope you find it for the price you seek, happy hunting!

[@RambleStorm]

@@robes08 thank you!

[@flightgravity7483]

Apple shampoo. Or, alternatively, D&G Light Blue Eau Intense pour femme with double the dose of amberwood.

[@robes08]

truth

[@omarion2k]

Greenley is such a good gym fragrance, but yeah would never wear it anywhere else. Only PDM I really like is Herod.

[@robes08]

Gym is made for cheapies imo, even with my collection I would not spend $300 for a gym only scent.

[@WSF176]

Can you please do an influencer tier list and wreak some havoc 😂

[@robes08]

someone already did that and last time I checked it went sideways 😅

[@WSF176]

@@robes08 robes can do it better. As usual. I have faith in you 😂

[@ahmadabdalkhan5467]

Fantastic video😂😂😂

[@robes08]

Thanks 😅

[@adaniel8632]

Which Hermes scent did you compare Oajan too? I couldn't quite catch it and would love to look it up.

[@McRipperMitWurst]

Hermes Ambre Narguile

[@adaniel8632]

@@McRipperMitWurst Thank you!

[@robes08]

what he wrote lol

[@brenlynch4811]

Cheers Marc ,another one bites the dust, they try to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear ,and charge us for the effort and by the definition of the above mentioned adage, fail, have a great weekend catch ya on the other side 🙏✌️👍

[@robes08]

Have a great weekend Bren!

[@cyberbully3074]

I own this fragrance and I like it but it's way overpriced and very synthetic , you should make a top ten spring/summer list

[@robes08]

I know I need to make a list of sorts at some point.

[@javoneldridge8046]

Awesome video! I am not a fan of this company. I get bored with mass appealing fragrances. I don't even purchase popular scents at all.

[@robes08]

who decides what mass appealing is? Just some jargon an influencer made up and others ran with it. I'm not a fan either of this company so looks like we have the same taste.

[@AB-bw5yc]

I live in miami and it's hot af here. Sure this smells synthetic but it works great where I live. I've gotten great compliments with it and it lasts all day

[@robes08]

don't forget it smells sexy 😂 just kidding. Enjoy it in good health!

[@wailali5646]

Literally “hold the horses”😂

[@robes08]

😅

[@qnunyuh8417]

I just watched a Demi rawlings top ten videos, and lost my shit ,when I heard her tell her viewers ,Louis vuitton ombre nomads was one of the 1st fragrances to be bring oud to the western consumers , being a reviewer, huge collection, in the perfume industry and living in a middle Eastern country, what she said was mind blowing , and then thinking of all the oud fragrances that came before it, or the oud rush after oud wood.

[@robes08]

that can't be right, even Demi should know better than that. 😵

[@qnunyuh8417]

That's what "hurts" the most knowing better , but still shilling +sharing bad information ,with a smile.

[@johnwilliams221]

Stop watching demi. Have some respect for yourself.

[@wagsbass]

Let's go Robes

[@robes08]

💪

[@taylorbookout506]

Killian Apple brandy and boss bottled oud are my go to green apple scents

[@robes08]

Solid choices!

[@JohnDoe-zw8nq]

Carlisle is still my favourite from the brand then Sedley

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing!

[@J_M_E_83]

This would be ok for a desiginer release, but for the money it's a bad joke. I am happy to report I have never owned a PDM fragrance, ive only tried a few 5ml decants and none have impressed.

[@robes08]

exactly how I felt. I'll keep fighting the good fight, now the question is which one is next.... lol

[@taylorbookout506]

People hyped this one up on fb but it’s honestly one of the worst fragrances I’ve tried in the past few years. My wife felt the same way. Just a synthetic mess.

[@robes08]

Wife has a good nose, give her a high five for me.

[@moneyparhar]

Marc putting out dark Secrets of PDM.

[@robes08]

Ohh that's well known secrets, the dark ones aren't out YET lol

[@dyson3509]

Most apple scents I have smelled always smell synthetic as hell, especially green.

[@robes08]

Agreed, I haven't found one yet.

[@david-2]

Since PdM use race horse names for many (most?) of their frags, I'd guess that Epsom was named after the racecourse in the UK.

[@robes08]

most likely, wonder what really happened to that name? It only lasted days and never went into production yet it was put up as marketing and on the site.

[@yassver]

I live in Epsom

[@nickk8829]

You should try Carlisle. Greenly smells cheap.

[@robes08]

I probably will smell all the PDM's now with decanting, the more popular the more I'll be getting them to decant.

[@Teeb2023]

Carlisle is the top of their pile IMO. Herod is good, but terrible performance. Byerley is very good, but incredibly "niche", with a distinctly "old felt-lined writing cabinet" feel to it. Layton, I like, regardless of the now-hip-to-hate reputation. Sedley is just blah, with diabolical performance on my skin. Altair & Haltane I really like, but waaay overpriced for now.

[@JT-rx1eo]

First of all Bond No. 9 is apparently VERY litigious. They must have New York lawyers on their payroll. Sebastian once got a cease and desist letter from those jokers for an unfavorable review.

[@robes08]

Seb got much worse than that, he lost his channel as well, all that work. Happy to see him flourishing now.

[@Gardocki74]

I think you are going a little out of the way to bash PDM. Greenely is VERY unique. I haven't smelled anything like it and I do own a bottle I bought retail when I first started in this game. Greenely is one of my best freshies.

[@No_Dice200]

PDM sucks and is way overpriced dude. Don't get triggered because most people think PDM sucks.

[@darrendonahue2797]

I totally agree! He has lost all credibility with me after watching this video and He doesn't even have his information right because its Sedley not Greenley that was renamed. Obviously he isn't the Fragrance Guru he thinks he is. Seriously I am done with this self absorbed Foolish snob.

[@robes08]

I'm having a little fun with a brand that uses social media to push the brand, it's all good fun as for the scents themselves I would never change my thoughts or go out of my way to bash them. If you are good I'll say it.

[@Gardocki74]

@3pumps483 Most people don't think that. I have 150+ fragrances and Layton is still my personal fav and gets the most compliments from women. I agree they are overpriced and hyped in a lot of instances but not all. I won't touch their newer stuff for instance.

[@Gardocki74]

@robes08 I appreciate a lot of what you say about their fragrances and how a lot are copies of other fragrances....Greenely isn't one of them though. Very unique fragrance and one of my fav freshies.

[@blagojmilosevski9547]

They reformulated all their fragrances in 2021

[@robes08]

Thanks for the info!

[@Teeb2023]

Really? How did you find this out?

[@Leonard_Washington76]

You forgot to say “beast mode” 😂

[@robes08]

bah... 😅

[@MattyS54]

synthetic in the worst way, shocking so many people like this one. it's like Office for Men with apple lol. Chome Aqua is a better smelling fresh green apple and it's $20

[@robes08]

I'm working on my testing of Office for Men for next week, wish me luck. It's a rough ride already.

[@MattyS54]

Headache for Men would be more apt. still, Jeremy knows his audience lol.

[@Koichi75]

Sounds like you are describing Lacoste Style in Play… almost.

[@robes08]

I need to revisit my bottle of Lacoste now lol

[@nunyabidniz3262]

While my taste isn't necessarily the same as Marc's, I'm shocked to hear him say Perseus is quality. Perseus has thee worst 'grapefruit' and 'vetiver' notes of any so-called niche house I've tried. Very much a synthetic mess. Sedley is a basic ambrox driven fragrance. I don't hate this house, it's just not noteworthy.

[@robes08]

Well I didn't say it was quality, I said the grapefruit was authentic which to me is quality but the rest of the scent was not worth the money and honestly what I didn't say in the video because it was an unboxing was the drydown was really underwhelming.

[@nunyabidniz3262]

@@robes08 the dry down was worse than underwhelming. I'm usually diplomatic, but I'm gonna say it, Perseus is trash

[@saabreplay7553]

I had greenly for a minute. Had to return it because it was so awful

[@leozito2004]

Nothing special with this one. I wouldn't even wear on the regular basis. The apple scent that I enjoy the most is Apple Brandy On the Rocks By kilian, together with the booze just kills this one.

[@robes08]

I still need to sniff the on the rocks version of it. I hear good things. Thanks my friend!

[@ryany2882]

The best apple note is in creeds spice and wood

[@robes08]

oh ya totally forgot about the Creed

[@blagojmilosevski9547]

Is this 81% alcohol or 77% alcohol content?

[@robes08]

it's brand new so I would assume 81

[@bogdantoneff2693]

Pdm screwed the pooch on this one. This much money for this scent profile? Naaah.

[@robes08]

100%

[@fredbadu7571]

All you need is a green screen….. A literal green screen…. For this dumpster fire of a fragrance 😅

[@robes08]

maybe it'll disappear lol

[@fredbadu7571]

@@robes08 😆

[@The_Fuzz1]

This one is pretty terrible.

[@robes08]

it was, it reminds me of something lacoste would do.

[@kez850]

@@robes08hey now, Lacoste Essential brings back quite fond memories 😂 granted it’s like $30

[@MattyS54]

@@robes08 and lacoste have some things in the past few years which are far better than this!

[@jlovesmith3792]

U ain’t got a clue this 1 is a banger

[@Mr.Cologne]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robes08]

Hope you liked the glasses lol

[@Mr.Cologne]

@@robes08 I did 🤣🤣🤣

[@naf4361]

This reminds me of those car freshener cards you can buy from the dollar store. It's junk and people are going nuts paying $$$ over this garbage.

[@robes08]

yes!! exactly that!

[@yastilltoyou]

Man stop bashing the shit out of de marly perfumes that shit is so funny 🤣🤣 but for real tho de marly perfumes aint that bad ...

[@robes08]

Lol but for real they are THAT bad at least from the ones I've smelled. I'll try again with another one and see where it goes.

[@yastilltoyou]

@@robes08 have a sniff of pegasus de marly

[@No_Dice200]

PDM and Initio are laughing all the way to the Bank. Overpriced garbage if you ask me.

[@robes08]

That they are. They really cornered this social media thing early and cash in, sold the brand recently and made a killing.

[@Malick_ibn_dinar]

I miss the old robes08 that reviews the thing he likes and find relevant . I’ve watched lot of influencers on the fragrance realm but at the end of the day I find your content more relevant to my taste because I start collecting from your recommendations over a decade ago . I just wish you focus more on your experience on a particular product and not worry too much about other people opinions , some find it entertaining that you clash some reviewers but we are losing the point because scent is subjective and they do have their audience that find their contents relevant even though I’m not one of them

[@TheWestbury09]

Actually he never only reviewed the things he liked, he's from the era where reviewers would do subscribers choice or find new, overlooked and niche fragrances and Actually give an unbiased review and score it unlike the overly positive reviews and list we have today

[@robes08]

I never focused on just what I like which was what made my channel unique as I bought blindly everything and gave it good, bad and ok reviews. I see what you mean but also I spent a good chunk of this review on the scent but I always do like to give a disclaimer to newer noses to know that hey this brand does this, and reviewers aren't honest about certain brands. I never felt the need in the old times to do that because all reviewers discovered brands organically but that's not the case anymore so brands get ignored because they have zero social media influence as others get all the limelight even though the quality isn't there. Just my 2 cents why I do it and it's only for certain brands.

[@dieselboy77]

You forgot the baseball hat and dress like a 14 years old

[@robes08]

the glasses was enough for me, I didn't want to go full cringe.

[@dieselboy77]

@@robes08 haha , fair enough

[@jamesbaird1342]

I use to watch you for 20 plus min reviews of fragrances. Now all you do is put othe reviewers down. Unsubscribe.

[@jmb2467]

Influencers, not reviewers.

[@jamesbaird1342]

People not perfimes, check your wedding ring finger Mr. Perfect

[@robes08]

we had a good run ✌

[@Indecencealicia]

Tfs not the best at all

[@robes08]

💯

[@angelcuev6762]

I got this as a sample and i get Irish spring soap 🧼 you want something worse than this but similar? Coach 🟩 green bottle with kiwi note 🤮One of the worst releases

[@robes08]

ha, I had the same thoughts when I sampled the coach months ago.