Fallkniven Thor. Big knife talk.

I use the fallkniven Thor to process wood and light a fire, talk about my relationship with large knives.
extra piece of feather sticks wisdom after credits.

[@derekstynes9631]

That feather sticking created a work of art well done Rob .

[@dennisleighton2812]

11:07 "One tool option" - I must agree with you Rob! Thor's Hammer and knife - very pretty!

[@willmur54]

Thanks Rob,very entertaining!

[@ogrithetrog]

Pearls of wisdom from our Rob - a poorly designed handle can sabotage a good knife and a well designed one can be the making of a mediocre knife. I would normally suggested putting a length of bicycle inner tube over the handle to improve grip, but there doesn't look to be anything to hold that on - Oh well! I'll have to give the 20 curls a try when I'm having a fossick at some time. Thanks Rob, keep 'em coming!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Pearls of wisdom eh? There's one guy that comments (I removed his comments) who thinks I talk balls of shit! Says I use dangerous techniques and abuse my tools, funny that he's the only one that dose. I prefer the modern Bowie it's heavier and the handle is far better. But the Tor is a sexy big of kit 😜

[@The_Arby]

Now...That's a BIG knife Rob, lol Love to see your whole knife collection sometime Rob :-)

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Next video has a bigger knife.

[@ntesla66]

I found your channel looking for reviews on the Trail Master. I wanted a Recon Scout but finding one of those is like hens teeth. After I watched your review I went back and watched every video you'd posted... became one of my favorite channels. I did end up with a Trail Master San Mai... haven't regretted it.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

That's what I like to hear, makes it all worthwhile, getting up at 6am every Sunday , risking the long arm of the law during lockdown, getting wet and spending a small fortune on tools........ .. ....I love it really , otherwise I wouldn't do it. My Recon Scout is 31 years old and was my main user for years, until I got a Chris Reeve shadow 4, I should have got one in san mai when they were readily available. I'll have to console myself with 3 trailmasters and 4 kukri's .., Lol

[@DS-kg4do]

I also found your channel whilst looking for Trailmaster reviews. I love how down to earth and normal you are. I was born in ‘75 and believe we have a similar mindset, especially when it comes to a love of big knives, In spite of knowing they aren’t usually the best option. I’m ex military (9years) but I have nowhere near your experience with the outdoors.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

We're a dying breed in this age of soppy woke nonsense and people who can't think for themselves, following the heard and whatever trend social media is throwing at us.

[@DS-kg4do]

@@RobEvansWoodsman Agreed, on all counts!

[@LegionTacticoolCutlery]

It’s a nice blade. It’s a Fallkniven. But the prices on all their blade have gone through the roof and I don’t understand why. There are so many other knives out there for way less. But great video! I enjoy watching them and listening to the reviews!

[@iruwild]

There are techniques to chopping with big knife..or even an axe. I like the side to side technique, cutting only about half the diameter wide and going from the other side once I reach the center. You gotta make the chips fly. I find with knife, you can cut much thinner width on the log than an axe.

[@oldpisces49]

Heyyyy Rob!! Interestin video! Bein on the down side of the mountain in life I'll stick to the saw and axe!! Maybe U could show us your approved method of carryin a forest axe on our packs please?? As always thanks for spendin time with us!! ATB....Stay safe please!!

[@AR9ify]

Your videos are great, not just for the content, but because you are genuine, being yourself, honest and just a seemingly good guy. 👍

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'm really a horrible bastard 🤣

[@Zenmastersean]

Wolverines!!! Sweet curls off the big blade... Loved Thor's hammer! The best thing to do with Rambo knives was sharpening them and showing off the edge....I broke too many by actually using them lol. I still love the silly James Bond kits/survival kits inside... 20 curls... I like a challenge. Beautiful control. Thanks for sharing Stay healthy brother!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I love that movie almost as much as First Blood! I'm going to make a better handle for the mallet.

[@Zenmastersean]

@@RobEvansWoodsman they don't make them like that anymore... Classics! Ps... Unlike Rambo I could never cut the barbed wire with my knife no matter how much I sharpened it lol I'm digging out my DVDs now lol lost in the 80s tonight "How'd you get shot down? There were 5 of them... I got 4.." "All that hates gonna burn you up kid..... It keeps me warm!" "You're not hunting him.... he's hunting you." "Whatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like Rambo? God didn't make Rambo. I made him!" "Don't forget one thing...a huge supply of body bags!"

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Awesome Sean. I could recite First Blood from beginning to end years ago. It's great to know that there's a kindred spirit over the pond!

[@frankieviljoen]

@@Zenmastersean My all time favourite, what did Rambo say to the Sheriff, "don't push it"

[@Zenmastersean]

@@frankieviljoen that was an epic scene! " I coulda killed 'em all, I coulda killed you. In town you're the law but out here it's me. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go!" I just watched it last night... It's still Great!

[@lancedyck3730]

Thanks Rob! Great video

[@ChrisSurrey]

Absolute quality mate. You ARE the best feathersticker on KZbin! 27 curls!!!!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'll do better next time.

[@ChrisSurrey]

@@RobEvansWoodsman wolverines!

[@oldfart9287]

Great stuff again Rob love your videos getting 2 jakapcho (cant spell the word) 110 and 140 on monday, dont know why, I sure dont need em, but why not ? I am getting way better at feathersticks and ferro rod control, will dazzle my daughters saturday in the garden and light the clay chimney with feathers and sparks, guess I am a real tosser playing at it, but believe it or not you have got me interested in life again and dragged me out of the waiting to die chair, thanks mate

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

That's so amazing mate, I'd thought I'd have the opposite effect on people!

[@philleath-dawson2113]

Twenty seven..... well done, I need a three foot stick for that many. I had the survival knife with the catapult which was crap and my friend had the Rambo knife.... I was so jealous..... That was the good old days when kids could have a knife and not get half the police force scrambled to arrest them.... Another great one.👍👍

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Them were the days mate, I used to walk up the woods with my survival knife on my belt, through town!!!

[@frankieviljoen]

@@RobEvansWoodsman Good memories. What happened between then and now?

[@robsteel4407]

There is a lot to learn from your videos. Great techniques 👍🏻

[@HankSielski]

Hi Rob, I love re-watching your old and re-edited videos. I learn so much by watching them a second time! On the subject of big knives, have you ever tried a Svord Von Tempsky Bowie? It’s a beast, but the handle is a bit rough. Thanks for doing this and keep with the re-edits! BTW, hope you have some leeks with a beer or whisky 🥃 for St. David’s day!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

No familiar with that knife, I know they made a machette or parang but not a Bowie.

[@whiskeyriver4322]

Great knife discussion. Wish I could have partook. I grew up in the 50's & 60's, so most knives for us were slip-joint folders, old Marbles hunters, or Dad's WWII Kabar's or Q25 Cattaraugus utility knives. Whatever you had, you made it work; or you went cold, wet, or hungry. No specialty knives back then, no ferro rods, no Bic's, no folding silky's; and no Uncle Ray or Grampa Mors to enlighten us. Just Baden-Powell, Dan Beard, and our Boy Scout Manuals. We'll talk more when we get around the camp fire......

[@mariopavlic4395]

Fantastic video Rob!!! 🔥I’ve been looking for a big knife for some time and now I know what to get. You need to show us your collection! Also 27 curls is impressive!!🔥

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

The modern Bowie is better.

[@MIIIB]

I found your channel because of this knife. I'm still deciding for Thor or Modern Bowie (Lam CoS). Thanks for the review you deserve a lit more followers.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Thanks, I would choose the modern Bowie out of the two, I use that in a video from a few weeks ago, it's not a dedicated knife video it's a campout video.

[@MIIIB]

@@RobEvansWoodsman right know I got the ESEE Junglas as chopper.(Or a GB Scandinavian depending where I go) I carry the Fallkniven A1XB in a leather sheat w/Dangler as main batoning, heavy duty, etc..., And in a cross sheat for quick access the Mora2000 for fine cuts.

[@MIIIB]

@@RobEvansWoodsman you make very good review. Very worth watching. You had very good skills, whatever's knife in front of you, you procees wood like butter.

[@anthonydeacon881]

Your big knife talk was fascinating, Rob. Your experience has much in common with my own, but I started a few years before you. I was bitterly disappointed with the Lofty Wiseman parang. The handle is/was badly designed and badly finished: nasty sharp bits to chew your hand up. I sent mine back for a refund straight away. I bought a Mk IV from Chris Reeve at a knife show in Johannesburg in 1984 or 1985. I can't remember exactly whether or not I took delivery at that show or if he sent it to me later on. It has the production serial number 10. It's essentially unused and probably worth now as much as all of my other knives put together!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Hell fire Tony that must be worth a few quid, I was looking through the knives on Manchester knives and militaria last night and there was an early project knife going for about £500.

[@farquharwilson2523]

Good chat on big knives, just been checking the web for some of these knives. Always fancied a big knife. What a great challenge, I'd be happy with 20 feathers let alone 20 curls. 😆

[@jurgenkrebbekx4329]

Really enjoyable Rob, great content from start to finish mate 👍🏻

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Thanks!

[@robsteel4407]

Great Rob 💪🏻👍🏻

[@martinoutdoors6941]

That Thor is a nice looking knife. I agree with your thoughts on the lofty, have seen a chap do a handle mod which looks to improve it.

[@chris6559]

I bought the Thor off you and I sold it on a few years later, one of my regrets, the bloke I sold it to then went and wrecked it by chopping dried and knotty trade wood, he twisted the edge so maybe not wrecked but it needed a re-grind at least. It's the knife I regret selling the most.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Hi Chris, wasn't that the replacement from Heinnie Haynes? He must have hit some awful wood for it to get in such a bad state. When it's that bad just burn it whole.

[@chris6559]

@@RobEvansWoodsman Yeah, the replacement so was brand new, big thread on BB at the time, general consensus was that it was his mistake not the knife's, really wish I hadn't sold it but you know how it is at the time, something else comes up.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

You bought an air rifle if my memory serves me correctly.

[@omadon7331]

Interesting review of Thor, and chat about big knives, Rob. At 27:00 you might have a point about safety, especially if person in question is self-taught type. On the other hand, if you have someone to show you basics of safe axe handling, IMHO it should not be an issue. Of course, no argument about portability. Big knife is waaay better if you (for any reason) have to travel light. In any case, hat down for great knife collection. As for Cold Steel, we can only wait and see what will become of them now, when Lynn sold it. Cheers, and take care.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Quality had been going downhill for a while with CS, the early stuff was great, I still have quite a few pieces.

[@Hl_custom_knives]

Great video rob

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

My mate Russ was first this time! 😉

[@Hl_custom_knives]

@@RobEvansWoodsman I'll be first again. Dont you worry about it

[@clivedunning4317]

Dear Rob, Thank you for another very informative video. Two suggestions, firstly your great talk about the Lofty Wiseman survival tool would have been one million times better if you'd borrowed one, to show to all the folk that are not familiar with it ! Secondly, here's a thought for you, how about doing comparisons with old type knives ie 1950's stacked leather handle bowies from Richards of Sheffield, black handled army jack-knifes with the thing for taking stones out of horses hooves, bill- hooks and World War One bayonets, which were all used "in the day" ! All the best, keep knocking out these great videos.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I have some ye olde knives that you mentioned but no bayonet.

[@oldfart9287]

Not really for you Rob but for your viewers, I will add that I spent a few years in the early 90s in B C and have been with outdoorsmen fishing and hunting, most of them never heard of a featherstick or ferro rod, we would usually drive out to anywhere we felt like it and chuck an aluminium boat in a lake and get a few trout, I carried a chainsaw, axe , shotgun and a 30 06 rifle, handsaw 3 knives loads of grub and about 10 methods of firelighting, I helped skin a deer with a cheap snap off blade ulility knife and took home loads of wood for my log burner at home, its only now I realise in my dotage that if I had walked a mile from my truck and got lost I probably would have died through lack of knowledge, so pay attention to guys like Rob if you ever are going to go somewhere with real wilderness, the knowlegde they give you will enhance your chance of living through a bad turn of events

[@dennisleighton2812]

I just picked this video up again after a year or so, and since then, as you know, I've acquired my Trail Master. This has had the effect of making me a whole lot more critical of larger knives reviewed by all and sundry. So, I'll add a few comments here and there: handle: now this is where the TM excels in my opinion. In particular in the wet. The other day I was doing some work and the grass was wet and I was working low down, so my hand got wet too. It was a while before I even registered that my hand wasn't slipping at all. I hardly noticed it. Another thing that is different is that the shock of chopping on a hard, dry oak branch was far less than I was used to (with my Bushwhacker!) As I've got smallish hand that came as a blessing. Choil: I get what you're saying. How would it be if the ricasso was thinner? Would that not alleviate the problem to an extent, as your hand would be that much closer to the beginning of the cutting edge? [This is not so relevant with the TM] 13:40 " ... never replace a bushcraft knife, and axe and a saw.. " This goes back to your statement earlier about one-tool-options, not so. Yet, I have it a little different: I'd prefer a Silky saw, a big knife (my TM), my Victorinox Swiss Champ and a bushcraft knife ( currently considering the Victorinox Venture Pro, and enjoying all the talk about it!!). This would be lighter than the axe option, and much easier to carry. 24:23 Just realized that what you said here was probably instrumental in my actually buying my TM! In retrospect I guess I owe you a debt of gratitude for that! ;-) 25:56 Becker: your comment about the handle, coating (and also the spine) - got into a bit of a argy-bargy with a bloke who thought the BK9 was the best things since Neil Armstrong! 🤣 27:00 Axe - yeah, I once saw a guy hurt himself with wielding an axe without any experience or skill - he's very lucky to still being able to walk today. Anyway, Rob, I enjoyed that as much as the first time! Cheers!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Bk9 - poor man's Busse!

[@dennisleighton2812]

@@RobEvansWoodsman Yeah, you're bloody right!

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

I think the technique you show at 15:00 really demonstrates why a large knife is safer than a tomahawk or a hatchet... but I still prefer the hatchet... will just use it in different ways!

[@Bill-mw7sh]

Bro that sheath is boss mode. I love it. Make a new one if you hate it. I love that thing.

[@tikkidaddy]

My original CSTM has a heavy leather well made honker of a sheath like that. I have a disability and TBH I need a heavy sheath so yeah...me too😂

[@alanbarr2735]

Enjoyable video.

[@frankieviljoen]

Thanks for the video, enjoyed it. Have you ever looked at the TOPS Tom Brown Tracker? Tried it perhaps? It is also called a movie prop and then there are some videos on it where it seems to be a very handy tool.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I've had two, tried to like it but didn't.

[@jongjoorhee931]

You said it all Rob. I wonder what kind of quality level ColdSteel would put out since LT had sold it.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'll have to buy something. I was thinking of getting a SRK compact but this knife buying is getting expensive!

[@Simon_Mouse]

Interesting your thoughts on Lofty Wiseman's parang, perhaps more suited for the jungle environment? Amazing how Lofty's input to the community, as well as Mors and even Les Hiddins gets overlooked by the newcomers. Keep up the good vids 👍

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

The newcomers just watch the big KZbin channels for knowledge and pretend that they know everything by sounding off on Facebook groups.

[@outdoorwoodchipps3107]

I should work on More curls. Your M.K. Tribute knife is excallent for featherstick making. Did a small compareson some days ago. Stay safe.

[@gubiii79]

I think that the Ontario SP series offer some brilliant budget big knife options, I've been using the SP10 for a few years now and it hasn't failed me yet.

[@daemonharper3928]

I've just bought one of those monster unground Wilkinson Sword Dartmoor knives, I've put a sabre grind on it and I'm kinda enjoying it.....the sawback is excellent at creating fatwood and magnesium dust - I was really very anti big knife but I'm softening my opinion.

[@tankdiesel9738]

Great video Rob... did that falniven come with a square spine or did you have to put one on it ? Would love to see a picture or a little video of your grail Rambo knife and I think since you drink miso much tea you should show us tea fans across the pond how to make a proper cup of tea... also have you seen the new silky outback saws yet... they supposed to have a little thicker blade on them... I’m waiting for them to hit the public to try one as I’m a big silky fan too... keep up the great videos... ATB👍

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I've looked for the new Silky saws but couldn't find them. I'm sure you will get to see everything in time, I'll show you colonials how to make a great cup of tea!

[@Homeyomey]

Please stay for the outtakes they are hilarious 🤣

[@Homeyomey]

30:00 🤣🤣😂

[@michielvanbekkum896]

'I'm not a steel nerd. I'm a user.' LoL

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

You won't see me cutting rope in a video. Silly tests don't mean shit, the nerds in their back gardens can do that.

[@Daxxii1966]

You really should do the feather stick tutorial mate 👍🏽

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I've done one mate, you must have missed it.

[@Daxxii1966]

@@RobEvansWoodsman just found it - Feather Stick Tutorial - clue is in the title 😂

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I may do another one later on.

[@henrymoreland8719]

I went down the Cold Steel route, got myself a Tuff Lite :-).

[@pAdDy111hDH]

The Thor knife performed really well in this video. What do you think about a similar knife called Svord van tempsky bowie?

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Never heard of it, sorry

[@mikelychock0310]

Love the big chopper! So which is your favorite, the axe or the big chopper?

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'd prefer an axe but it's close.

[@seanthomasdowd]

Would love you to take your kukri out for a good test sometime, it's my all time favourite knife and as close to a one tool option as there is, I thought when I saw the name the Thor it would have been a seax

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I just got my hands on a CS Gurkha kukri in San Mai so I will be using that very soon.

[@seanthomasdowd]

@@RobEvansWoodsman will look forwards to that one

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Next one is the tops elchette

[@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548]

That thor is a good looking knife though lol, maybe yours was demo and thats why the handle shows wear. I got a TOPS scratch & dent and the only way you could tell was the micarta edges were softened and not crisp, or the fella carried it and never used it lol. The el chete is a beast for sure lol.

[@waynejones9500]

Good vid, always enjoy the out takes. Around the time lofty released his survival tool there was another one doing the rounds, quite similar in blade shape but with a black handle. Can you help with the name?

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

The lofty knife had a black handle. I'll need to think about this one. Not the Wilkinson sword survival knife? Gerber BMF maybe.

[@waynejones9500]

No, not Wilkinson it was personal named, the handle looked rounder and more comfortable than lofty's. I want to say Chris Reeve but as I remember the were roughly the same price. IT'S DRIVING ME MAD coz I was always looking at it waiting for the price to go down lol.

[@waynejones9500]

As I remember the handle looked or resembled ebony, I remember it being quite shiney.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

That's the Oakwood, the predecessor of the lofty knife, I missed out on one a few years ago, I was gutted! I think it was expensive to make and they stopped making it.

[@waynejones9500]

@@RobEvansWoodsman I found it!! It was the Chris Caine survival tool.

[@blackhill6426]

I’ve just discovered this channel . Really great stuff . I’m the same , born in the early 70’s and always had a fondness for a big knife . I’m seriously considering the Svord Von Tempsky Bowie as I love the rustic no nonsense look to it . Have you tried one Rob ? . If so I’d love to hear your thoughts .

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Great to have you here my friend. Not a knife that I'm familiar with.

[@blackhill6426]

@@RobEvansWoodsman No worries . Think I’ll just get it anyway 🙂👍

[@mattkiehne1954]

Forget tea, just sorted a steak dinner

[@daeholm]

That's some nice featherstickin'. Do you know the exact grind angles on your Bushtool? Maybe 12 or 13 degrees per side? Trying to figure out the best scandi geometry without having to use a microbevel. My puukkos are a bit too delicate without a microbevel. Also Red Dawn is a great movie, the remake is crap though.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

The remake was awful, even Hemsworth couldn't make it any better and the guy playing his brother was a disgrace to B movie actors! Sorry but I've never measured my grind , it's reasonably steep.

[@ertraccia]

Hi Rob, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Very interesting. I do really like the NortherLight series, in fact I just got the Idun NL5. Do you think that the hidden tang of it and the screw at the end of the handle can be considered a POF (point of failure)? I mean....can I do reasonable batoning without breaking the screw because vibration? I do also like the combination of 3’s: I have a SilkySaw 130, Becker BK9 (ever tried?) and NL5.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I have two videos on the Idun, Im pretty sure I bash it through logs with no issues. Videos are from about two years ago. I still have the knife, if I didn't rate it I would have sold it. 👍👍

[@mattkiehne1954]

Thanks. Have you considered Wandertactical Smilodon in or Godfather?

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Sorry but I don't know what you are talking about.

[@mattkiehne1954]

Check out Alex Wander on Facebook or Instagram. Italian knifemaker who does big and robust knives in D2

[@mattkiehne1954]

@@RobEvansWoodsman messaged you on fb. If you want to try out I could send mine over for you to have a play

[@Homeyomey]

What abou all these worktuff knifes. They have like 7 new big blades

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'll check them out 👍

[@gorancvijovic2635]

Hi Rob. Would you buy it again? I have nl5, nl4, and nl3. Dont know if I should buy 2 an 1. Advice please. Thank you. Ps SC Recon scout is imposible to find.

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Buy the Thor!! Big is better. It's the second one I've had, beautiful knife but give me the modern Bowie or San mai trailmaster any day

[@gorancvijovic2635]

Thx, friend!!

[@Bill-mw7sh]

Lol where they filmed red dawn.. lol 😂

[@neil_castell]

think i had 3 of those shit hollow handle 'rambo' knives growing up, all lasted under a week, lol what do you think of the drop forged range cold steel did? i have the large survival knife, think its great but am not 100% sure i like the handle (lack of scales)

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Neil mate, you offered to lend it to me last year , something that I will take you up on next time I venture over the bridge to your area, the lack of scales dose put me off to be honest. I can probably remedy that mate .

[@neil_castell]

@@RobEvansWoodsman your still welcome to test it, or survival lillys APO-1. The cold steel clips into the sheath ... with scales on, it would need a new sheath. I took it out a couple of days ago for my april camp out, used it mostly for cooking chops on the fire, lol

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I wouldn't want to use Lily's knife in case I liked it! 😜

[@howardvarley8795]

Interesting!!! So you’re saying 15 curls aren’t good enough because they won’t light so you need 20 curls to start a fire!!???

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'm saying that 20 curls shows excellent knife control, well Mors kochanski said that, I'm just repeating it, obviously you don't need the shaving to curl loads of times just to light a fire.

[@lynella6073]

Feathers, mors says a student will pass at 4 curls:). I’m passing!!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

I'm talking about instructor curls, apologies if I didn't make that clear.

[@lynella6073]

@@RobEvansWoodsman no, it was clear! We students new to this get a bit excited when 1. I can make a curl of any type and 2. Make a feather stick that is almost like a real feather stick, It helps to watch you and then go practice, I love your videos! Thanks!

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

My pleasure Lyn , I'm so pleased that you and others like you enjoy my little outings , shaving splitting and burning wood!

[@leemichel8199]

as soon as you said pause and make a coffee ,my other half could not have moved quicker to pass me her cup ... lol. L

[@RobEvansWoodsman]

Poor woman sits through my bullshit?

[@poisonousbadge126]

ah shit fuck me. :D

[@collector7993]

The sheath on the new version is just as bad, who puts the retaining strap on the cutting edge side? Someone who doesn't understand, use or carry knives. Get it right will you Fallkniven, if you are going to charge the moon for a knife at least get your sheaths perfect and also stop painting the sides of your sheaths, bloody sand,buff and dye the sides instead of cheaping out. Yours sincerely, a serious leathercrafter.