Norman Finkelstein: October 7th Revisited | Israel, Palestine, Hezbollah, & The End of Gaza

[@robinsonerhardt]

Norman moved heaven and earth to make this conversation happen. On my end, behind the scenes, the production was difficult in too many ways to count-and there are some problems with the video and audio that I hope you can forgive-but the challenges were nothing compared to what Norman has been through. Whether you agree or disagree with his interpretation of events, I am incredibly grateful to you for watching this, because a lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into this episode about a situation the discussion of which is worth far more than we can give. - Robinson

[@carpediem44]

Thank you, Robinson and Professor Finkelstein.

[@robinsonerhardt]

@@carpediem44 Thank you!

[@Dua1512]

Literary, humanitarian and peace noble prizes for Mr. Finkelstein!

[@diegob8319]

When so many in western academia are silent... this man forever has my respect.

[@Ashdad99]

Finkelstein is a perfect example of intellectuals in the world that get almost no attention because of their political or ideological position in academia, and its a crime

[@mrmustard1633]

Norman you will forever be my intellectual and political hero, and I will never stop being in awe of your courage, your integrity, and the strength of your moral compass. I have followed you since i was a young teenager and for me you will never be replaced

[@robinsonerhardt]

He is one of one.

[@lovedbygodinc2023McMillen]

Ameen🎉

[@giuliana413]

I 100% concur!!! I’m ashamed to say I only discovered him after October 7th, but I’ve been ravenously consuming all of his content ever since! The man is an absolute legend!

[@daedesmonk7143]

@@robinsonerhardtDude you are literally platforming the Brett Weinstein level academic multiple times. Get some real historians please.

[@MALIKAGAA]

@@daedesmonk7143 and who might be your real historian might I ask? Alan Dershowitz? Benny morris? 😂😂

[@afro5380]

I am lucky and honoured to witness and be schooled by Professor Norm while he is still alive. He is a living encyclopaedia. An old African proverbs which reads,”When an Elder dies, a library burns to the ground”. Long live Professor Norm

[@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4]

That’s a brilliant proverb because of how true it is, when Chomsky, Pappe, Finkelstein die, we would have lost so much knowledge comparable to the library of Alexandria

[@MrPiccolop]

There will be others. 😊​@@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4

[@svodcat7524]

​@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4 not really, they wrote books.

[@noravaisman1230]

I hope this person understand about many other genocides smd

[@svodcat7524]

@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4 not really because they wrote their knowledge down, Famously.

[@musaibaltaf8727]

Professor Finkelstein....Huge respect for you....May you live long enough to see an independent Palestine

[@robinsonerhardt]

:)

[@musaibaltaf8727]

@@robinsonerhardt You earned a Subscriber for life today...This episode was on a whole new level

[@jo-annerichardson34]

New subscriber here too. Fantastic interview with Norman Finklestein that never disappoints. Thank you for this.

[@Timeisright]

Ameen 🇵🇸

[@victormount1613]

Read the Bible. Palistine is a myth and made up lie in 1881 and even further in 1967.

[@rebellerevelle]

Finkelstein and Chomsky were the first I learned about Palestine. Much respect and appreciation for their dedication and integrity.

[@edwardjones2202]

Same - Fateful Triangle was the first book i ever read on the topic

[@someoneelse8412]

Now try learning the truth for a change

[@zetatheta964]

You have my deepest sympathy.

[@alawi854]

That is a sea of intelect who never shall dry. Much love and respect from sweden😊

[@rosalinddobson1912]

I too became aware of the real deal listening to Prof. Finkelstein.

[@MyWits_End]

These days, we often find ourselves feeling like we've wasted a chunk of our life watching something unimpactful or trivial. What a priviledge to spend the last 3 hours listening to Norman Finkelstein. An amazing human being, who has dedicated his life to the issue of Israel-Palestine and brought so many of us along on this critical journey. Thank you for touching my life and teaching me things I otherwise would have never known. Sending my gratitude from Australia 💞

[@sunviewer7]

I want to praise Robinson for allowing Professor Finkelstein to express himself to the fullest extent. As an interviewer he brought out the best. Thank you for bringing this to us.

[@AntonBerg-pz8ip]

I am an atheist, but I fully agree with you and would like to add, "a match made in heaven".

[@funckmasta]

Finkelstein, your intellectual hero who thinks that: (1) Russia had the right to invade Ukraine; (2) the terror attack on Charlie Hebdo was justified; (3) Irving (a Holocaust denier) was a „great historian"; (4) Jews use the Holocaust to make money from it.

[@sacamain0]

Came here to say this. Never heard of Robinson but then he has Norman Finkelstein - one of the greatest of our time - on his show and also interviews Rashid Khalidi... Wow, thank you! 🥰♥️🍉

[@maureencohen379]

Thank you for extending Norman Finestien’s interview to us and helping maintain the important historical research he spent his life on for all of us to learn

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thank you!!!!

[@Comical-Intellect]

Shame is knowledge of recent history isn't so sharp. I've concluded from all his interviews, that he wants another October 7th

[@douglashobden]

If I can achieve 10% of the integrity Norman Finkelstein has before I die it will be a life well lived.

[@robinsonerhardt]

!!

[@Crytoma]

Real

[@batphink2655]

Well stated!

[@fatemehm2949]

He should not talk about religion or religious people because he is a secular person!

[@douglashobden]

@@fatemehm2949 That is a truly ridiculous statement.

[@frankcarlos23]

Norman is the man. He sat there for three hours and spoke without a pause.

[@funckmasta]

@@frankcarlos23 Because - as any selfish person - he loves hearing himself talk.

[@phasespace4700]

@@funckmasta Agreed! He's worse than Trump (who is apparently Finkelstein's preferred candidate). He needs to just accept his irrelevancy and go away.

[@Soesii]

​@@phasespace4700huh he said he wouldnt vote for either. Don't listen to gossip

[@phasespace4700]

@@Soesii I heard what he said. Disgusting.

[@MyWits_End]

@@funckmasta He may have tendrils of pretentiousness, commonplace amongst professors of his age and stature. Fortunately, he also has the humanity, integrity and obsequiousness to balance it out... unlike some.

[@Marami424]

I remember meeting Professor Finkelstein at my university in London in 2012, I was so very excited and loved his lecture. An intellectual human who does not deter from his beliefs and truth.

[@Daybyday439]

As the grandson of Auschwitz survivors, Norman talking of his family resonates with me so much; almost as if he's describing my grandmother. He's truly a guide for these turbulent times.

[@justpassingthrough...2492]

I have lost count of the Holocaust survivors I've seen quoted as condemning Israel and what it's perpetrating. They know what a real genocide looks like.

[@noravaisman1230]

I still don't understand conection with holocaust in Germany. For me, as being part of the family of holocaust victims, why in this concentrations camps are gypsies, gays, dissidents all in the same oven. You are discriminating as well. NEVER FORGET OTHER PEOPLE

[@noravaisman1230]

Nothing in comparison with October 7th. Why these Jewish self called intelectual feel empowered living Gaza?

[@hafsahassan394]

not grandson. Son.

[@Daybyday439]

@@noravaisman1230 I mean, it was done in Germany, that's the connection. Not that hard.

[@AmyA-i2y]

What Norman has done even in the face of so much hate from his own people is simply amazing. He is one strong soul, a Hero among Heros.

[@Kato_87]

Zionists are not his people.

[@AA_AlegriaApenas]

His own people?

[@AmyA-i2y]

@@AA_AlegriaApenas Norman is Jewish and other jews (not all) are not very happy with what he says.

[@LeonMassey-p1k]

Samuel Jackson in Django unchained wow could of been token member of NSDAP

[@samtheman6388]

@@LeonMassey-p1k could've *

[@crispis68]

Thank you so much for bringing profesor Norman Finkelstein to your program. I have discover him less than a year ago, and I am loving each interview that I see. He is so clear, honest and well informed that I feel privilege to be able to have him for 3 hours.

[@thabangmahloko6952]

From a young South African who learned about the history of the Palestinian people a few years ago and stumbling across Prof Finkelstein has been amazing. Really appreciate your work and intellect. Thank you

[@someoneelse8412]

Now try learning the truth for a change

[@meistereder9135]

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[@youssefelsayed8025]

@@someoneelse8412cope

[@klaudiadelmer1064]

This man is so admirable. I am in owe of his dedication to truth and justice.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thank you for watching!

[@AlainPaulikevitch]

A lot of people are dedicated to truth and justice. What makes professor Finklestein so special is how lucid and well articulated he is in linking historical facts to moral (in the good sense of the term) assessment leading to stances.

[@IronMan-nu3rb]

Will Palestinians get Justice ever?? Iraqis didn't get Justice

[@matthewstone1362]

​@AlainPaulikevitch his response to BDS was a little puzzling even after listening to his reasons.

[@AlainPaulikevitch]

@@matthewstone1362 what is or who is BDS?

[@gs123]

Do I want to invest THREE HOURS listening to Norman Finkelstein? Damn right I do! The professor is so well-read and knowledgeable about this subject that the hours flew by. And thumbs ups to Robinson for, once again, giving him the time and space to fully share his many insights.

[@robinsonerhardt]

this is so sweet

[@AntonBerg-pz8ip]

I am listening for the second time around and it is a pleasure - as sad as the subject is, this is a great interview.

[@fouadmas5413]

​@@robinsonerhardt Norman touched on many things except the Elephant in the room. How much of the Knesset Extremists actions is based from Jewish Extremists teachings by Radical Rabbis, such as Justifying Genocide and killing civilians with Amalik categorisation?

[@phasespace4700]

@@fouadmas5413 He also says Zionism is not a problem. He’s made himself irrelevant, but he loves to get in front of a camera.

[@badiyasudah5022]

You have already earned a place in human history's book of honor.

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

Please, watch "Europa the last battle" 12h documentary. It answers all the questions.

[@ileathan]

KZbin: "how israel merked its own civilians on oct 7th GDF"

[@Anan-qq7fg]

Yes. And CHRISTOPHER Bollyn is even more important

[@shawndorv8953]

And the ones he criticizes earned a place in human history's book of horror.

[@janettedewar6617]

Book of horror & lies more like

[@SaraAli-pu7vj]

Norman Finkelstein is a pure soul and so smart!

[@luisdavidllense2293]

Unrelenting courage in the face of shameless cruelty. . . I'm glad I live on the same planet with wonderful people such as Professor Finkelstein. So grateful that you bring him on your show. I could listen to him talk forever. Thanks!

[@yington]

Where can I hear the Finkelstein interview

[@ajamanaid]

@@yington It's the one you commented on, right above the comment section, on your screen 😉

[@yington]

@@ajamanaid Thank you am googling it and seeing if I can find it

[@ajamanaid]

@@yington You don't need to google it, just scroll upwards to top of this page

[@peterboytRaKs]

Reminds me of the stories my Irish grandparents and their brothers a sisters told us kids when we were young. Some survived the potato famine. Some didn't Yes, I'm that old. Older than Norman. It's definitely about survival Norman. Especially today. Thanks Robinson and Norman.

[@ludviglidstrom6924]

The Irish, the only Europeans who know what it’s like being colonized! Thabo Mbeki said that visiting Ireland was very different from visiting any other Western country, because the Irish understood colonialism.

[@eileencondon5438]

Which is why (as an 80year old Irish woman ) I have been supporting Palestine since the 1980 Prof. Finkelstein is in my algorithm for which I am grateful. Thank you

[@daveg6839]

The potato famine was 175 years ago. I guess it's possible in the same way that President John Tyler's grandson is still alive.

[@fouadmas5413]

​@@daveg6839 the British imposed "potato famine" . The Ottoman Empire sent Aid ships , Britain blocked 2 of them

[@jimmymoriarty3679]

@@ludviglidstrom6924the Scottish do too Gaelic people in general know.

[@mahmoudalchrbji5505]

Thank you so much. Norman is one of the very few people, who can talk to your brain and also to your heart. What a beautiful mind. Thank you both

[@verw719]

Very well said. Thank you

[@rosalinddobson1912]

Amen!

[@rashides8960]

I can't believe how fast 3hrs came to an end. When someone speaks deep from the heart, unsponsored unbiased, you could listen to them the whole day. The confidence, the ease in speaking is like a talking book.

[@matthewstone1362]

To be honest Normans rate of speech answers for at least an hour of the interview.😊

[@justpassingthrough...2492]

@@matthewstone1362 The old wise ones speak with thought, considering the fact that it all goes someplace. Make it someplace good.

[@michaell8002]

I have listened to this 3 nights in a row.

[@pedropapas4596]

​@@matthewstone1362 nonesense. Get back to your video games.

[@BB-nh6ij]

@@michaell8002 Worth listening to..

[@Helios2025]

No words can express our gratitude for the dedication and integrity of Pr. Finkelstein!

[@brianmcgrady2674]

Thank you Norman, please don't give up, you have been s constant truth in a world built on lies. You are an inspiration to me and thousands of decent people, who know right from wrong. Professor Chomski is another inspirational truth. Thank you, both of you.

[@alphonsemoonflee299]

Professor is a wonderful, informative human being who puts justice, fairness ahead of irrationality. A man of integrity.

[@postyoda]

This was the best discussion with Norm I've seen on the internet and the reason is you let him do as many of his tangents as he wants; you get a 3 hour video but that's where value is.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thank you so, so much!

[@fuvbk6230]

That is literally the best thing. Norman is an amazing lecturer, every tangent is meaningful, powerful and ties perfectly to the main topic. The way Norman Speaks and his command with words is something I look up to.

[@jensheahan7522]

@@fuvbk6230👍🏻

[@seximcsexington]

The man has so much knowledge, and studies what he discusses in such depth that any tangent he goes on deserves a segment in itself. I admire his commitment to intellectual rigor and making sure to study anything he speaks on from all angles, to make sure he represents that info honestly and objectively

[@justpassingthrough...2492]

I'm amazed at Robinson's willingness to allow that. He is wise beyond his years.

[@rlud304]

I see Prof Finkelstein, I click

[@MB.77]

Me too!

[@Momof-2]

Same

[@PeterkStauffenberg]

@@rlud304 Norman Finkelstein sold his Judaism as currency to gain applause among anti-Semites and Marxists who love a Jew willing to attack his own. He distorts facts to turn 1.9 billion Muslims into “oppressed” and 9 million Jews expelled from their homeland into “colonizers.” In truth, he’s just another hired intellectual serving dictators, always blaming the “imperialists” or “capitalist Jews” to divert attention from the real oppressors. It’s the same old scapegoat tactic: manipulate the people to hate a convenient enemy while the tyrants remain in power.

[@kaparsow]

Same here.

[@PeterkStauffenberg]

Finlelzt got his voice like that because his Jewish parents ripped off his balls... and that's how his hatred for Zionism began! lol

[@cakewhisperer7113]

He is a role model for true jews who’ve had family witnessed the horrific holocaust and respected their memories by defending this injustice that once again being denied like the holocaust. Much respect to Mr. Finkelstein for standing up to injustices against Palestinians.❤

[@JD-td8kl]

Robinson, this interview may be your crowning achievement, pal. It is a cornucopia of information and compassion. I don’t always agree with Norman, but he is still a hero of mine. Keep up the wonderful work.

[@conorknapp6764]

His book on Gaza should be required reading for anyone seeking the whole horrible truth about what is being/has been done to those poor people, history will shudder from the record of their suffering

[@robinsonerhardt]

Norman is a serious, serious scholar.

[@scotttatertot69]

An inquest into its martyrdom?

[@conorknapp6764]

@@scotttatertot69 yes exactly

[@mEmory______]

Just got that book

[@Naushad1210]

Especially the empty games and willful dereliction of duty by the UN. History repeats itself.

[@adambriest5257]

i have tremendous amounts of respect for this human being,professor Finkelstein has a compass and he stands by it. thank you so much for making this interview happen! appreciate it,much love to the team behind the scene too!

[@chasekanipe]

Wow, the production quality of this episode has been massively upgraded

[@robinsonerhardt]

Like I said--blood, sweat, and tears. Thanks for always watching and commenting, Chase.

[@MarieeSiou]

@@robinsonerhardtwow. Can you tell us more? It truly does looks and sound brilliant 🍁

[@cattie605]

The world needs you, Norman, now more than ever. You speak truth to power and have the knowledge, expertise and understanding to do so in a way that informs, educates and inspire people on all sides. Please take care of yourself; rest and remain healthy, in body and mind.

[@ahz353]

As a Muslim I would love to live side by side this Jewish man. God bless you Norman You only need to listen for a few minutes to feel your humanity.

[@Walt-z4u]

Please consider buying AND reading all Norm's books.

[@MaggieGuevara-Fayad]

I am👍🏼

[@strodo7013]

@@Walt-z4u I bought his books on audible

[@missglitteryone]

They are so well researched

[@PeterkStauffenberg]

@@Walt-z4u Norman Finkelstein sold his Judaism as currency to gain applause among anti-Semites and Marxists who love a Jew willing to attack his own. He distorts facts to turn 1.9 billion Muslims into “oppressed” and 9 million Jews expelled from their homeland into “colonizers.” In truth, he’s just another hired intellectual serving dictators, always blaming the “imperialists” or “capitalist Jews” to divert attention from the real oppressors. It’s the same old scapegoat tactic: manipulate the people to hate a convenient enemy while the tyrants remain in power.

[@simhei95]

Thank you for all of these long, high quality interviews in which Finkelstein gets to elaborate and share his vastness of knowledge.

[@omaymahaq1766]

Norman… Our planet is a better place because people like you are in it. Thank you!! All respect for you and your work! 🇵🇸✌️🇱🇧

[@TheOldTurds-c7c]

What are you're thoughts on Adolph Hitler?

[@idontknowmuch3441]

@@TheOldTurds-c7coh got him didn’t you. You cheeky clever litttle fellow aren’t you

[@clashislife]

A nice person​@@TheOldTurds-c7c

[@TheOldTurds-c7c]

@@clashislife Thank you for your honesty. It's too bad Finklestein is so mentally ill he doesn't understand that you are his fanbase and that he's feeding into Nazi narratives. I wish there were more people as honest as you. You should get your friends to stop being the cowards and liars that they are and to be as open as you are.

[@RootKaissar]

@@TheOldTurds-c7c Europa: The Last Battle (2017) watch this doc and then ask yourself the same question.

[@annalisezaverdinos3565]

This man is the epitome of integrity and decency. An intellectual giant and a hero of humanity.

[@paulconnelly4050]

The definitive interview with Professor Finkelstein. Huge credit to Robinson for this. A gift to the people with more than a 10 second attention span.

[@jenniferkamerer8320]

I respect You, Professor Finklestein. You exceed expectations in your humanity, intellect, courage, character and values. You have a purpose and you are fulfilling it sir. Thank you!❤

[@missglitteryone]

Norman uses his great intellect to help others understand the reality of our world

[@Dua1512]

Literary, humanitarian and peace noble prizes for Mr. Finkelstein!

[@robinsonerhardt]

!

[@achmatrossier3029]

Born in Cape Town all those many years ago I have always been a great admirer of Norman Finkelstein for his intellect and total honesty.

[@sagam4812]

Peace Nobel

[@zhizhi9138]

For sure , he’ll not accept it.

[@skystar3534]

Indeed

[@saskiademoor8400]

I hear you Norman , you are exhausted. I wish you could take a rest from doing your best - always giving your best And give space to the immense sadness about all the suffering we so desperately want to stop.

[@imad_mahmoud]

Wherever this great man is, Norman Finkelstein, I will watch and re-listen to his arguments. It's music to my ears and I'm grateful to such humble, knowledgeable, and great man!! Thanks for hosting him, indeed. PS: I just LOVE his slow pace talking style and emphasis on words.

[@Hussain10111]

Dr. Finkelstein is so thorough and truthful with his assessments that you cannot disagree with him.

[@strodo7013]

Yess, a three hour interview with Norman Finkelstein. Good day!!!

[@justpassingthrough...2492]

Did you ever hear of "multi-tasking"... in this case a mindless task so that you can really pay attention. Patience is learned, and well-rewarded.

[@sydvischer1302]

Robinson, thank you so much for giving Norman a platform to speak for this long, this freely on such important subjects. You did an incredible job facilitating the conversation, asking insightful questions and seeking important clarifications. Thank you.

[@robinsonerhardt]

thank you so, so much for this!

[@justpassingthrough...2492]

And not interrupting. Quite unusual for a moderator, and very welcome!

[@Phelicitea]

To add to the original comment, "and by listening, giving him enough time to finish his thoughts, and just being an awesome interviewer،".

[@scotttatertot69]

When Norman speaks, I listen. For the rest of my life, I will never forget what I have seen since Oct. 7th. I will never forget the complicity I have seen in almost everyone I know in my personal life, and the complicity and enabling of Western governments. At this point, silence, turning away, taking a "both sides" approach to tell yourself you have the high ground, all of these attitudes of regular people are what is fuelling this conflict. In the eyes of regular people, people protesting for Palestine is nothing but a nuisance. Everything that is happening now would stop of western governments put pressure on Israel. This will never happen unless the populations in these countries demand it of those in power. How can I belligerently support a sphere of influence that thrives off of the worst crime against humanity possible? In good conscious, I cannot. We pat ourselves on the back that we are the secular apex of all human civilization. No one is free, no one is educated, no one is intelligent and special quite like us. What a sick joke. This is absolutely not true now, and it's never been true.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thank you for watching!

[@ebflegg]

Thing is, people in the West are quite a small minority of humanity. We aren't 'regular people'. Time to realise this

[@thomasjosullivan9179]

In Ireland we stand with the suffering people of Palestine, the USA , UK and Germany make me sick

[@scotttatertot69]

@@thomasjosullivan9179 I live in Canada. I will never, for the rest of my life, forgive my government and the media. It's the same thing we did to the indigenous population here, happening all over again, in the 21st century. And most here still have the gall to proudly claim we have moral authority over the world.

[@afrobian1]

@@scotttatertot69fellow Canadian here. I had this conversation yesterday with a First Nations lady as new about Palestine was being broadcasted. I explained to her the root of the problem. And she immediately told me that’s what the white Mann did to us… she had no clue what was going on. I gave her some sources to educate herself. And she said she will.

[@hafeezsalahudeen1673]

This is an ICON , a minaret of intellectual prowess , and hallmark of humanity. Prof Norman , may you live on!

[@MarieeSiou]

10000000000%

[@arlenevega7094]

A riveting interview from a world treasure, elated to have found Mr Norman Finkelstein! Thank you for your courage, eloquence and unfiltered recollection. 🌹

[@jimbenham1638]

You are a hero professor Finkelstein. You have made personal sacrifices for the greater good.

[@JoeLebrick]

Wow. I'm already moved to tears.

[@robinsonerhardt]

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[@justpassingthrough...2492]

@@robinsonerhardt I'm amazed at the enormous interest and profound grief that are expressed around the world and even in the US whenever the topic of Palestine comes up. I've been following it for many years but it's quite new to many. We need to learn as much as possible in a short period of time to make positive change. Robinson, you have helped with this magnificent contribution! Great and humble thanks!

[@IvanSekamatte]

As students of political science,we appreciate Mr Norman,keep up the great work sir

[@louisalevine3711]

Thank you, Dr. Finkelstein, for your work, for your life - a martyrdom for truth, justice, for the Palestinian people

[@Retalak]

"I don't think I had a 'conversation' with Destiny." 😂😂😂 I love Dr. Finkelstein'sarcasm.

[@mursyidomar6995]

LMAO, went straight to the comments section after he said that. Finkelstein is so honest that it almost doesn't sound like he is being sarcastic. In another interview he refers to Destiny as "that thing", haha.

[@mkjhableful]

it's a shame, I would have liked to see an actual conversation

[@Michael-ys7hw]

He has dementia!

[@anas-432]

I remember he called him a fantastic moron😂😂

[@enciam9791]

MISTER BORRELL!!

[@aces4873]

Please keep interviewing this man he is a living legend and national treasure

[@criticalLocus]

Global*

[@janmorgan7435]

Finklstien is genuine and doesn't put a front on for anyone. He doesn't need to. He holds a lot of emotion in his heart. Thank you Norman for giving us knowledge

[@joannagodwin-adamson4]

An honourable & wise man .How blessed we are

[@ZYosef-sd7wu]

Much appreciation to Mr. Erhdhart for providing this venue to have Prof Finkelstein’s assessment and many years of good work to a wider audience. This writer is an admirer of him for many years. I happen to be from Eritrea while living in the US as an academic. Eritrea has suffered more than its share due to overreach of global power, including Israel. I have huge respect to individuals like Prof. Finkelstein, Prof, Chomsky, Prof. Mershiemer and others for their courageous stand and for telling the truth.

[@TheBabypowder05]

Thank you so much for bringing this to KZbin. In a world that seems to be willing to completely mute the history of suffering the Palestinian people have been and are currently enduring, this is at least witness and rebuke.

[@yvonneyork1263]

Wow! I have been missing Norman on youtube as this genocide continues unabated. Glad he's back- I understand he was concentrating on a new book. Thank you Robinson for providing this generous, long form interview that enables his deep and comprehensive scholarship to flower for our benefit.

[@ninar2903]

"genocide" is what Hamas and the Palestinian civilians who participated in on October 7th

[@jeanbowman901]

Thank you Norman Finkelstein you opened up my mind to learn the truth about my government and the Middle East I have grown up and although I am broken hearted to learn the truth about the word democracy , my country , and the horrible way the US government does not value human beings I am grateful I found you .

[@imikhonto]

I feel your sense of pain. In pain there is growth. Consider that you will break the cycle. GOD bless. 💝

[@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4]

I study International Relations and consider Professors such as Chomsky, Finkelstein, Pappe and many others my teachers - these intellectuals are people of integrity and it will a sorry day when we don’t have their knowledge to guide us, may the Lord bless them and keep them well

[@Kagemusha7]

Chomsky is not a person of integrity and is often quite bad on these issues.

[@jabeensyed7735]

Ameen

[@v1nc3nt_bl4ck4]

@@Kagemusha7 he is a man of integrity and I don’t think he’s wrong on these issues, I think he just has alternative views on how to deal with foreign policy that isn’t in line with establishment policy, doesn’t mean he is wrong. Seeing that we are arguably on the verge of WW3, I think if we had followed alternative policies we might be in a better place

[@go0ose]

Lol Noam Chomsky is a hack so opinion completely disregarded

[@ninar2903]

You're a fan of the neurotic self-hating Jew

[@tankgirling]

For me Norman Finkelstein is without a doubt, a hero. A peerless scholar and shining figure who burns brightly with no regard to repercussions on his own career or public image. To wield justice in the name of truth, independence and humanity that palestinians and the nations of the middle-east never receive, but always deserved. How this unshakeable, coherent light bothers so many. I will remember him, his words, and keep his mission fondly in my heart as long as I live.

[@monique2161]

Thank you for giving us this interview.

[@robinsonerhardt]

My pleasure.

[@abdool1972]

@33:12 Finkelstein: " ... I have to be careful with numbers because my mind is tired ... " Erhardt: " It's pretty encyclopedic none the less ... " What a privilege and comfort it is to listen to this conversation. A soothing oasis for my intellect to gather strength from.

[@patinka816]

Norman came to speak at UofT in Toronto after he published The Holocaust Industry and I went and bought his book that evening. There was pretty tight security as he was being harassed and threatened by the usual suspects. I was awed and inspired by his knowledge and arguments and especially by his fearlessness to say it like it is.

[@georgemcfetridge8310]

I was present at a UBC event with NF years ago, and he had everybody in the room unified beautifully as the night went on. It was remarkable.

[@MaryamPirzada]

When was this?

[@MrHammerkop]

I see The Naqba Industry is pr0ving quite lucrative then.

[@pippasmyth]

Thank you for this sensitive and thoughtful interview. I feel privileged to be able to see it.

[@AAGachi]

Prof. Norm, you are indeed a hero in times of lies

[@TheRckstr74]

Fascinating interview. First time I've seen/heard of both Norman and Robinson. Undeniable experience and knowledge, questioned by a truly genuine, respectful and inquisitive interviewer.

[@eufl]

Thank you, both of you, for this wonderful talk! Everybody on this planet should follow this episode. Like many others I admire Norman´s work, his honest humanity, his clear, well thought mind. He is clearly one of the great thinkers of my life. And I only wish, that he may live at least long enough to see the Palestinian people rise from captivity to freedom and their own state. Cause this will happen eventually.

[@kelebeksky]

Norman ❤ you are a beautiful human being

[@robinsonerhardt]

:)

[@Mildau30]

2:06:26 Dr.Finkelstein is referring to the book "The Stars Bear Witness" by Bernard Goldstein. The book is also titled as " Five Years in the Warsaw Ghetto". 2:07:56 The man in question is Adam Czerniaków, head of Warsaw Ghetto Jewish Council. There is English translation of his diary.

[@nevidkaalgu2897]

This conversation is sure to be filed on the shelves of history. So moving, so nuanced, so brilliant. Thank you for making this happen at such an important time. Thank you Norman Finkelstein, for gracing us with your insight and intellect in this lifetime.

[@LeelaAfridi]

I wish this interview wouldn’t end. I really enjoyed listening to Norman.

[@williamcharles2117]

Norm is a great teacher in every sense of the word.

[@hmmmmmmminteresting]

@@williamcharles2117 teacher of terrorism.

[@wdb-q4y]

I'm so grateful Robinson. Amazing interview.

[@StrongODonnell]

Very compelling interview - lots of interesting moments. Can't wait to finish and see the clips. Definitely interesting hearing Finkelstein wishes he asked Chomsky some of life's big questions when he had the chance. Also his story about his family in the concentration camps does give goosebumps.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thanks, Donovan.

[@Hant_76]

What happened to Chomsky?!

[@StrongODonnell]

@@Hant_76 Finkelstein talks about seeing him over the decades and keeping the conversation light, focusing on their families and working in academia, even though he had many chances to ask him some deeper questions.

[@Hant_76]

@StrongODonnell understandable. It takes a toll to fight against injustice, knowing it's a rock you will have to roll from the bottom of the hill again and again.

[@chris-terrell-liveactive]

Thank you, Robinson and Norman, for this talk. It's a rare opportunity to listen to a full length and deep discussion that isn't distorted or stunted by an agenda and schedule driven interviewer. A very worthwhile investment of time. Best wishes.

[@BatoulMeriem184]

كعربية مسلمة اقول لك سيدي الكريم انت شخص لاتستحق فقط الاحترام بل تستحق الحب أيضا ❤❤❤

[@abdelbahedi6067]

Normal Finkelstein's book on Gaza should be taught in all schools globally...

[@lindy2575]

Which one?

[@abdelbahedi6067]

@@lindy2575 Norman Finkelstein's book, GAZA: An Inquest into Its Martyrdom, is now #1 on Amazon's Middle East bestseller books

[@alithugman3081]

Professor Finkelstein is the voice of truth 💯

[@elsonck2523]

Loved this interview! This Oct. 6 upload was perfect timing to sit with Dr. Finkelstein and hear his impeccable review of Israel's many decades of apartheid and brutality against the Palestinians which preceded Oct 7. Thank you! Also loved Dr. Finkelstein's comparison of Nasrallah to Socrates.

[@robinsonerhardt]

thanks!

[@MyWits_End]

Norman, you don't need to meet anyone's expectations but your own. You have contributed in enormous ways. Please be good to yourself 💞

[@Salah371]

God bless your soul!!! We need your voice.

[@michelleblue3900]

Thank you Professor and Robinson.

[@enciam9791]

Thank you both so much for this interview. I have heard Norm interviewed several times since Oct 7th, but I don't think I have seen him speak so relaxed and engaged as this. You seemed to have an excellent rapport and you have the rare gift of not having an ego or an urge to interrupt or hear yourself speak. The end result was a fascinating interview full of knowledge that almost had the feel of a parent / grandparent emparting wisdom and experience to the next generation. Huge thanks to you both.

[@rodneyhatch56]

Norman is a wonderful teacher. I love how he instructs and guides this young man with such a generous heart.

[@saelina007]

Professor Finkelstein’s interview is so powerful and thought provoking. I hope he will live a long life and continue his work. I especially liked his comment about the lie and the truth. Also in this age we don’t believe in investing our lives and passions in something you are not going to succeed but still doing that knowing that you may not win is a virtue. Wow! Some may say that it is impractical but life is not about practicality. It is beyond that.

[@mznxbcv12345]

On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 403 were military personnel, 59 belonged to the police, and 668 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 6 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 6 : 1 According to UN OHC data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 6:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations it is a staggering 162:1 On the 7th, with 462 military personnel out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.6:1 which is a hundred times lower than the 162:1 ratio from the 162,000 accumulated casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.6:1, a hundred times lower. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 162,000 PA Civilian Casualties . Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc In the Tantura (2022) documentary there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. In another documentary '1948: Creation & Catastrophe', a survivor speaks about women getting violated infront of their family members by iTf. She was a child at the time and still wept as an elderly woman. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do. The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 , in other words 6 million deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. More on the Oded Yinon plan - According to the founding father of zionism, theodore hertzel, the area of the jewish state stretches from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates; the promised land extends from the river of Egypt up to the Euphrates and includes parts of Syria and Lebanon; when viewed in the current context including the siege on Gaza the zionist plan for the middle east bears an intimate relationship to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the 2006 war in Lebanon, the 2011 war on Libya and Syria and the continued crisis in Iraq and Yemen, not to mention the political crisis in the kingdom of saudi Arabia. In the 1980s an article written by a former senior official with the israeli foreign ministry in which israel shahak wrote a forward to which says "in my opinion the accurate and detailed plan of the present zionist regime of ariel sharon for the middle east which is based on the division of the whole area into small states and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states."

[@ranro7371]

eye opening? the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” -1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” Albert describes a massacre occurring, in cold blood, on the second day following the conquest, painting a scene that is as horrific as it is realistic and detailed: "Girls, women, matrons, tormented by fear of imminent death and horror-struck by the violent murder wrapped themselves around the Christians’ bodies in the hope to save their lives, even as the Christians were raving and venting their rage in murder of both sexes. Some threw themselves at their feet, begging them with pitiable weeping and wailing for their lives and safety. When children five or three years old saw the cruel fate of their mothers and fathers, of one accord they stepped up the weeping and pitiable clamour. But they were making these signals for pity and mercy in vain. For the Christians gave over their whole hearts to murder, so that not a suckling little male-child or female, not even an infant of one year would escape the hand of the murderer". Evoking several of these verses in practice: - (Num 31:17-18) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - (Deut 7:2, 9:3, Num 21) thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them... - (Deut 20:16-17) thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth - (Josh 6:21, 8:24-27, 10:, 11:11-14,21-22) And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword... And cut off their thumbs and their great toes... He left none remaining: - (Judg 18:27) And they took [the things] which Micah had made ...and came unto Laish ...and smote them with the edge of sword burnt city fire. - (1 Sam 15:1-9) Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but slay both man and woman infant and suckling ox and sheep camel and ass. - (1 Sam 27:9,11) And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive ... - (Esther 8:11, 9:1-19) Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together and to stand for their life to destroy to slay and to cause to perish all the power of the people and province that would assault them both little ones and women and to take the spoil of them for a prey... . - (Ezek 9:6) Slay utterly old [and] young both maids and little children and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] mark begin at my sanctuary. This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@evangel1737]

​@@ranro7371Is there anyway you can send this to me for copy ? It's an amazing 👏 piece and I'm not savy with tech and don't know how to do it from the comment itself.

[@ninohergotic1]

Wtf are u talking about? October 7 was a massacre of normal people not soldiers, that is what cowards do not men

[@itamarchen1]

This is a huge lie. Huge. I have family who narrowly escaped a village that was invaded by Hamas, all of their neighbours were murdered inclduing woman and children, with no IDF or police forces there to support them for many hours. Hamas came in to murder, rape, turture and kidnap civilians. Even the 400 or so combatants that were killed on OCT 7 did that while rushing to defend civilians, often under armed with only a pistol. Hamas delibarately targetted civilians. They were not collateral damage. They filmed it using GoPro and streamed it for the world to see. How can you say such lies after seeing the footage? And how do you know what's the civilian to combatant ratio in Gaza, if Hamas doesn't publish how many terrorists were killed? Your "analysis" is pure propoganda.

[@Melo-rt3zk]

I love this man for his truthfulness,honesty, integrity and humanity.

[@robinsonerhardt]

me too

[@Channel16070]

Thank you Dr. Norman Finkelstein.

[@wadadcook1466]

Thank you honorable man. God bless you

[@nedadoosty3369]

I've been following Norman for a long a time now. The analogies he makes here are wonderful. I'm mesmerized. ❤❤❤

[@Werderkhaner]

As a physics student interested in Palestine this channel is gold

[@garfieldcouch4443]

Don't let the MIC tempt you after you graduate.

[@AntonBerg-pz8ip]

Thank you Dr. Norman Finkelstein, for your tireless work, and than you Robinson Erhardt for one of the better interviews. English isn't my native language so, as awkward as this may sound, I really enjoyed the quality of this interview. Norman, special thanks for bringing up the murder of Medics. Iøm part of a volunteer medics organization, and I'm deeply appalled by the death of so many colleagues.

[@robinsonerhardt]

thank you!!

[@mohammedfaheem2575]

I'm Currently Reading Normans book Gaza, an inquest into its martyrdom.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Great!

[@solangedere7685]

Norman is a light in the dark of the intelectual world that is now too busy to discuss this GENOCIDE. Amazing interview!

[@pigospin]

Thanks! MR. Robinson. Loved the discussion. Learned so much. Please invite DR. Chomsky.

[@robinsonerhardt]

Thank you!!

[@ilhambakhti1345]

Pr. Finkelstein, you are a legend