Robot Soldiers Need to Hurry Up

[@Justin_Taylor]

Here's the link to the ALV research summary: apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA167472 Wild to think that this is what was being researched almost 40 years ago. If you find any more cool research leave it in this thread so I can check it out and maybe make a video on it.

[@rocko7711]

🤖🦾🦿

[@Cat-3-3-3]

Yeah bro most tech has been researched under black ink for about half a century( a lot more by now ) but I swear bro nothing is being hidden bro I swear bro

[@rocko7711]

🪖🤖🦾🦿🪖

[@rocko7711]

Another fantastic video Would you mind doing one on a period of military history you found interesting or revolutionary?

[@Splarkszter]

Why you always have blown out exposure

[@landonhunting203]

Can't wait for my exosuit to shut off mid firefight because I forgot to do my cyber awareness training.

[@ambi_cc8464]

Fr 💀

[@Thefrogbread]

Jeff

[@floydbaker2240]

Lol spot the vet Civvies know NOTHING about the military online courses. Online colleges exist sure, but that's the library of Alexandria compared to MCC's.

[@arx3516]

I'd prefer to pilot a 20 meters tall humanoid robot armed with a particle beam rifle capable of one-shotting a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. P.S: the only downside is sitting right next to a fusion reactor .

[@Podzhagitel]

“JEFF!!! YOU MOTHERF-“ - what i say milliseconds before being vaporized by a Sino-Russo-Iranian cruise missile

[@michaelthayer5351]

The technology isn't there and poor kids are still cheaper.

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

During the worst days of the coal mining operations under the Second Russian Empire, they would use kids from Asian & middle Eastern nations to dig air ducts, because they were tiny, during the Vietnam War, war orphans from the north were used as suicide bombers,

[@memegazer]

eh more like it is there but expensive and classified so it is treated like an expensive and classified option

[@K-Effect]

Cheaper and easier to control

[@PentaRaus]

Biological AI is indeed cheaper.

[@Morbing_Time]

Also it works as population control

[@clintbustwood4800]

The best depiction of robot soldiers I’ve seen is Chappie where each fireteam is assigned one that breaches doors and pushes hard angles before the humans. Additionally when they’re pushing towards an objective without concealment they stack up on it as cover. Obviously not practical for warfare but for urban environments and domestic police it makes sense to me (disregarding the ethical concerns)

[@Justin_Taylor]

@@clintbustwood4800 if you saw the clip of the first ground drone I showed they were basically doing exactly what you just described! Urban setting with no cover or concealment around and were basically forcing an opening with one deploying smoke to conceal and the other opening up with a machine gun to get a base of fire so troops could establish a foothold in one of the buildings.

[@marcusmoonstein242]

Loved those robots. My head-canon is that they only had a few hours of battery life. This meant they were brilliant at intense assault work, but didn't have the endurance for 99% of infantry duties. Thus the ideal squad would be a mixture of humans and robots.

[@2MeterLP]

@@marcusmoonstein242 Honestly you would be lucky if a lithium ion battery small enough to cram in a person (or even a backpack) could power all that tech for a single hour.

[@xyz-hj6ul]

​@@2MeterLP Why would you want to? There are literally jet engines which fit in the palm of your hand, generate less than a hundred degrees of exhaust heat yet are spinning at over 2,500rpm. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqObp52gZaeWY9E Hook that heat up to a thermal couple and you get maybe 10-20volts. Hook that (geared) turbine up to a constant speed generator and now you're talking about maybe 240 volts. Enough to run a washer-dryer combo. Or a refrigerator. Or a combat robot. Jet engines run at between 70-80% efficiency. Far better than any other IC engine. Which is why the guy in the above video can run it in his shop. The issue is that they have to be sized to load. And so something that is stuffed in the chest cavity of a robot is going to constantly be charging a capacitor/rectifier stack which is running down to a cheap lead:acid battery at probably a 50% performance efficiency. The issue is that, from that motorcycle gas tank (maybe smaller if you use heavy fuels) you can get those 2-3 hours of combat performance. Which allows you to o things like push out spaced armor so that the first layer tilts the round and the second layer catches it, to 90% efficiency. There is no reason to have a .50 cal because that's Arnold Schwartzenegger stuff which is just stupid. But an XM-25 which is an explosive 25mm grenade launcher can shoot through walls and windows to frag a room. And that makes for a far better AP weapon. While other, LTL weapons, like a sonic screamer (LRADS) or MMW heat ray (ADS) are also possible, for collaterals dense environments. It's a robot, it doesn't have to be first on target or offer first-kill decisive lethality. No machine gun golf cart is going to climb a staircase or turn a doorknob. Or dial up a local CP so that a totally-safe translator can speak to a POI through a chest speaker while relaying the conversation to the Lieutenant, half a block up the street. The reality is that Big Army doesn't want robots because they depend on having huge numbers of young, dumb, soldiers to guarantee their own budgets as a dependent service which, like a life insurance policy, are absolutely worthless in peace time, until the moment when their absence fails to deter war. Did we hire someone along the lines of an Elon Musk to 'DOGE the DOD', the armed forces would have an auditable budget inside two years and be a third it's present size and 1,000 times more lethal in less than a decade. Because robots, like lasers, are ready for TRL 8/9 fielding. And it's only the fuddy duddy's who are just smart enough to know they have job security only so long as the Band Of Brothers myth (that only warriors can lead soldiers) continues as unabated hokum. Once we knew that as much as a third of the budget was lost to waste or to hidden programs which had nothing to do with defense of this country, the budgets would be slashed anyway. And to retain force effectiveness while losing half or more of present force structure would require robotic soldiers so that the MASSIVE losses inherent to a four year contract of: induction training, operational training, exercise prep, standing readiness, separation, rinse-repeat did not endlessly repeat. Something which happens in the U.S. Armed forces on up-or-out basis of ranked advance, loss of physical vigor with age and adult recognition of what a useless angst factory it really is (things are deliberately done, inefficiently, to maintain a subconscious rage which is then unleashed on a battlefield), Robots don't care. Don't have families that require separate housing. Don't need to think about job skills after separation. Will be as young and functional in ten years as they will be tomorrow and as they were ten years before, when budgeted and delivered into inventory. The flip side of which is the civilian dread of what moder combat actually means. Given the unparalleled, WWI level, slaughter ongoing in Ukraine, and the fact that you have to be fighting with Terminators to be killed by (HK Aerial) by them; coupled to the reality of obesity and mental health issues inherent to today's youth. We will neither be able to afford nor usefully employ cannon-fodder infantry. No one will volunteer. Everyone will flee conscription. Those who are captured and forced to undergo training will still be incompetent as warriors. Both because of personal shortcomings and the shear, multi-axis, lethality which a modern soldier faces as: mines, direct fire, drone, indirect fires, CAS/CCA. It's not that we cannot figure out ethics work arounds. Because the alternative to trusting our own fighting machines to remain under our positive control of Azimovian Constraints, is KNOWING our enemy's equivalent systems will have no such Three Laws inhibitions. It's not that the tech for biped combat automatons isn't ready. It's that the institutional sludge of service corruption and inertia is no longer supportable by an about to collapse economy. And a population which is actively unprepared for combat. So the discrete tech elements have to be integrated into weapons systems while we can still afford long-term replacements for human kill-effector labor. Every member of the equestrian classes are completely aware of these basic truths and urgently cooperates in the conspiracy to cover them up. Dreading what it means. When their own athletics, charisma and prevarication skills have no meaning in a world where robotic performance not only exceeds human jock skills. But requires replacement studies and skillsets (statistics, game theory, strategic theory, economics, history) which they are inherently weak in. Why does Humanity never seem to learn from it's wartime mistakes to do better in not repeating them, next-conflict? Because the warriors don't want any of it to change. Less their own cherished positions as protectors and heroes be seen for what they are: Massive Fraud. Every year, the DOD admits it loses track of between 26-30 billion dollars. The actual number is likely orders of magnitude higher. One year of 26 billion dollars recovery would purchase 104,000 home mortgages worth 250,000 dollars each. The only way you are ever going to get past that enormous corrupting, corrosive, influence is to replace human resource managers with robotic technical service classes. Because numbers don't lie. That is why combat robots will happen. We cannot afford anything less.

[@Hamdad]

@@2MeterLP Solid state batteries are on the market now

[@josephgreene630]

YeaH but can a robot see what a deal this Charger is at 34% APR?

[@Justin_Taylor]

The real Turing Test

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Hell yeah.

[@chancepaladin]

but I need the charger so I can get back to base MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@RoflcopterPunch]

Discount Dan, are you getting all this?

[@Yura135]

So why don't we have robots? Poor kids with a nicotine addiction are cheaper.

[@Justin_Taylor]

It's me I am the poor kid with a nicotine addiction

[@kingalphawerewolf]

@@Justin_Taylor Instead of saying "thank you for your service." "Thank you for your anti-skynet money saving!" "Thank you for being cheaper then the death robots"

[@astrovation3281]

"and nothing came from it", sounds exactly like something a program where things came from would say

[@sadgiraffe6669]

If the military says nothing came from it either nothing came from it or a LOT came from it.

[@stevenfinucane3845]

Drone warfare has replaced the idea of robotic soldiers with the reality of robotic munitions

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

Luckily the Mauser BK27 exists...

[@stevenfinucane3845]

@@MagnumLoadedTractor Ah yes, the middle child.... May it live long and prosper 😎

[@matheusbawden8678]

The logical conclusion is flying is easier than walking for robotics . Unless the fight is inside building drones just win in mobility status.

[@Dogmeat1950]

And now Jamming is putting cheap drones in check.

[@hunted4blood]

So um, isn't a Javelin just a tiny robot strapped to a rocket?

[@meanmanturbo]

Hah, pretty sure you don't know Swedish, but in Swedish military terminology all guided missiles are called Robots. Like the AMRAAMs official designation is Robot 99, Hellfire is Robobt 17

[@hunted4blood]

@@meanmanturbo That's hilarious!

[@meanmanturbo]

@@hunted4blood This usage goes back to like the 50s before there were any other kinds of robots, so it makes more sense then.

[@keithpennock]

Javelin’s are target designated by a human operator who use the optical camera that is also the designator, so it does not automatically lock on or designate the target. And good thing too as it uses a form of infra-red so it cannot distinguish between a tank or a mule deer. So no, not a robot, unless you’d also deem a TOW-missile to also be a robot.

[@Lobos222]

Unguided after launch = rocket. Guided, regardless of how, after launch = missile. Yeah, a missile is a kind of robot, but they are actually very simple. They use different methods to get from A to B, but most of them are kinda like a fly following a white dot on a black background or similar. They are not "Ai" level of tech.

[@patrickwhite2090]

I forget where I saw the article, but I think the conclusion they ended with the mule robot was that actual pack animals worked just as well, if not better than the robots for carrying stuff!

[@floydbaker2240]

I thought it was more about how the robots don't get/carry diseases or shit all over everything lol

[@Bingusgingus]

@floydbaker2240 true but consider that pack animals are emergency rations that carry themselves, I guess for an urban situations they may be better?

[@robertkeaney9905]

The downside of pack animals, is that they can only be used by Special forces. If donkeys are introduced to the rank and file. Then they have to increase the numbers of 68T's. And whenever you have to exponentially boost the numbers of an MOS, you have to ask if the juice is worth the squeeze.

[@zee9709]

and cheaper, same as human, as long it cheaper, robot never happen. thats why cheap drone work

[@crowman2702]

And they're cheaper too!

[@owenbray7840]

always felt that the ethical question of autonomous weapons attacking people with no human input is overplayed since landmines, attack dogs, and booby traps exist.

[@clockworkvanhellsing372]

True, the differentiating factor to a landmine might be area of operation. A landmine wont walk away from where it's planted, even if it malfunctions (or at least not verry far).

[@owenbray7840]

@@clockworkvanhellsing372 yeah but that becomes an issue of scale rather than an ethical problem. For a scale problem a mine field has a much greater threat range than any planned autonomous weapons and arguably more dangerous. The ethical question being, should we allow weapons to kill or injure humans? The answer being, we have been doing that since we started putting spikes in pits.

[@owenbray7840]

@@justarandomcommenter570 Okay i think for point 1 Smart weapon and dumb weapon, are not real classifications but alright using them what makes a smart weapon smart exactly? as for the decision process a land mine does have a decision tree. if not stepped on no boom, if stepped on boom. Sure I can see that the decision tree for an autonomous weapons like a autonomous gun turret would have a more complicated decision tree but ultimatley its still working on the same decision logic a landmine would use. if target is avaliable activate. For point 2 I dont seem to understandthis point. All current designs for an autonomous weapon or vehicle can be shut down. We arnt talking about skynet and terminators where we have no control. Just order weapons to stand down or shutdown.

[@charondesousa8868]

​​@@justarandomcommenter570 The same metric could be set on autononous killer drones. Ultimately, a human has to design, build, program and deploy said automous vehicle before it can "make decisions". In actuality it is simply following the coded program that the humans gave it. So technically it's still ultimately a human give it the directive or capacity to make decisions that result in human casualties. You get me? How is it any different from an AA system or CIWS? It's really not that much different imo. They're autonomous yes but ultimately still need a human to activate or deactivate their auto pilot systems. Otherwise AA and CIWS systems would just light up every aircraft they detected or came within their range. Ygm?

[@notusneo]

War in the first place isnt ethical so why do people need to question ethicality in warfare in the first place, id say let them go nuts with it

[@alexanderbrady5486]

11:40 According to news reports, AI is already making kill decisions in the Ukraine war. Jamming equipment has become extremely common due to the prevalence of drone attacks. One way armies on both sides are getting around jamming is to add a simple image processing AI to the drone so, when the signal is lost, it can still pick out a target and hit it. To be fair, these are mostly being used in situations where the instruction is “find something that looks like a tank and blow it up.” But it is possible that AI will be given more kill/no kill authority out of simple signaling practicality, rather than out of any humanistic calculation.

[@caseymurray7722]

Thermal overlay with a buckshot round is going to be the best setup. Thermal gives a confidence boost to AI when trying to identify humans. I can see new drones essentially overlaying their potential targets then just waiting for a command to dive and fire.

[@2MeterLP]

Another main problem of humanoid robots is batteries. A robo-soldier is useless if the battery is empty after 10 minutes of fighting.

[@aandersson650]

The million dollar prototype AI robot fears the hobbystore fpv drone with an artillery shell strapped to it

[@MrHeuvaladao]

Brazilian here. An Orwellian future we already have.

[@cxob2134]

Just like flying cars.... "Its just a decade away and we will be in the future" and this has been going one for decades now....

[@genericname42]

We do have flying cars but considering they require both a drivers license and a pilots license to operate, make them nigh impossible to implement to the scale that your average American could afford.

[@genericname42]

Tldr flying cars are never going to happen in any major way.

[@shadowslayer205]

Not to mention the sheer amount of infastructure changes that would be required to take full advantage of land-air vehicles. One of the snags electric cars are facing right now is how expensive and difficult it would be to rebuild our street plans to better accomodate their energy needs. If cities can't even set up more charging posts for teslas, how are they going to even begin to prepare for flying commuter vehicles?

[@gorganfredman5363]

i mean helicopters exist

[@shadowslayer205]

@@gorganfredman5363 Not every parking lot has a helipad though.

[@floydbaker2240]

"Humans evolved to...." Shows Ricky Berwick, Berwicking around Rickily.

[@slammer1017]

I'm pretty sure an actual flesh and blood mule would be more practical than those four legged load carrying things.

[@DarkVeghetta]

I was thinking much the same. Why not just use actual mules/horses? Sure, some added logistics involved, but hardly more than for the robot and they're certainly cheaper.

[@clankplusm]

this is exactly why they were retired, america actually had a “mule corps” in Afghanistan to do their jobs iirc, though sources are spotty iirc

[@shamasmacshamas7135]

​@@DarkVeghettaWell for one if the grunts forget to water a flesh and blood mule it dies and needs to be replaced. If you forget to charge or fuel up a robotic mule it can be recovered and put back into use. Horse cavalry haven't come back despite being lower profile than a Bradley (or a Panzer I for that matter). Dealing with animals is just easier to do without in a warzone (barring niche uses for dogs which cannot be taken over by technology yet)

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

@@shamasmacshamas7135 Eh i find that to be one of the weakest motives since soldiers tend to empathize with their mates which includes animals, a grunt in charge of a mule would never forgive himself for killing a mule due to negligence.

[@shamasmacshamas7135]

@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 During the Anglo-Boer War the British rode two thirds of all of the horses they acquired for the conflict to death. Many more horses died than people. People who aren't properly trained in animal care and who must work animals hard will kill them without really meaning to, and Marines are already being trained (very well!) on their crucial tactical tasks. That doesn't need to be diluted by a week of "heres how you care for the company mules". Then there's the logistical considerations, like re-adding a group of veterinarians to each battalion, who are specialists and require much more training. A mechanical mule could to some extent be handled by existing support personnel. The US military is already facing a severe manpower crunch, no need to make it worse with new, bespoke specialists and the creation of new training pipelines.

[@efoxneo]

I serve on a 35 year old submarine and am not worried about being replaced by robots. I will be long retired by the time there is an automous version of me.

[@satanxarxes]

I'm not worried about losing my job as a soldier to an AI. I'd like to see AM go to gentleman's clubs, get DUIs, and sham out of pt to get tornados.

[@youronlinegirlfriend5508]

I have no Weekend pass, and I must screeam.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

Every time I see one of these mules, my first thought is, "but what if we just used mules?"

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

I believe mountain units use them. At least the german mountain units as far as I know

[@2Potates]

Some recent developments in directed energy weapons (particularly lasers) are really impressive and you should do a video on it. I've become convinced we'll end up seeing some sort of handheld laser weapon withing the next few decades as laser efficiency and battery capacity has improved significantly.

[@Justin_Taylor]

@@2Potates I like this idea a lot. Stay tuned.

[@kjhmnn09]

This is the actual reason why Raytheon put me in the mech suit. Battle bots just aren't there yet.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

11:34 There was an AI drone program sometime ago, and its primary objective was to destroy everything it deemed to be in its way to complete the objective. The problem is that AI thought its human operators were the main hurdles to that, so it suicide bombed the entire base... in a virtual reality.

[@SauloA333]

Unfathomably based how we got Skynet / A.M. plot type in our real lives and no one got the news. Its like the first AI kill ever by the USA army on October 2023. Future is scary...

[@ahtheh]

Most of the aircraft and drones can fly themselves, some f35 s or euro fighters can't even fly manually. Aircraft are already basically robots we just don't think about it like that

[@ryelor123]

Its easy to automate a plane since its surrounded by air. Stuff that has to walk and deal with plants, trees, rocks, rubble, streams and whatnot is much harder.

[@theloweffortchannel7211]

The future is Macross

[@laff__8821]

NEMO's Eurofighter will be real by 2040

[@Arch_Twisted]

There are 5 areas where we need to improve before we can make things like this. 1 - Design; we need a design that weather or not it is using treads, wheels or legs, must be able to move over the same terrain as a person just as efficiently. It must also be the same size and capable of carrying the same load or more. This would be hard to fix, and is dependent on the other factors below. 2 - Robotics; The limitations on all the moving pieces. This is what limits Design. Motors, barrings, hydraulics, and so-on. Everything can only be made so small and bear a certain load. We need to research better means of creating and using these things in order to make smaller, cheaper, more efficient components that work better and for longer. Such as how we now use steel rims with rubber tires on a spring and/or piston assisted suspension for vehicles instead of wooden spoke wheels. 3 - Repair; damage, strain and wear are one of the biggest hurtles. With people and animals, it's generally fine as we can just eat some food, rest, and our bodies self-repair. Machines can't do that, so we must be constantly doing it for them, and we need the knowledge, tools and supplies to do so. It's not enough to create components that resist wear, or even to make them easy to fix. They need to also self-repair or the machine needs to do the maintenance itself, from gathering the supplies to the repair. 4 - Power; As seen with the pack mule thing, a gasoline engine is not only loud, but inefficient in the long-term. Something like that would need to be powered by some kind of more advanced power source to be practical. This is also a huge reason why we do not posses things like Laser weapons, Rail/Gauss guns, Power Armor, Mechs (giant mechanized war machines, usually person-shaped or similar) among other things. Everything that exists now is limited by how much energy they take to run, which increases size of Engines, gasoline tanks etc. 5 - Cost; Not only are the materials needed for some of the more intricate components expensive, but we must fuel the minds behind their invention with steady cash-flow. If some guy is figuring out a Cold-Fusion Micro-Reactor, you'll want to pay him to do it for you, or another country will. And if you try to do it by force, he may sabotage it, or deliberately sandbag the process out of spite. So, you need to offer intensive. To fix this, we would need to make the field of study more competitive, by fostering stronger minds. If this guy won't do the science for a reasonable price, another person could. Or, we use AI to think it over for us. In the end, a machine would need to be equivalent or better than a person in all categories to be viable. And at that point, we may have a bigger issue on our hands.

[@fl00fydragon]

Say what you want The second someone rolls out piloting a mecha with a heavy rifle in one hand and the other retracting to reveal an oversized drill will be the moment the universe collapses under the sheer density of the awesomeness it will radiate😂

[@danthelowblood2653]

NO GUTS NO GALAXY!!!

[@northern_patriot0691]

I just want to throw it out there that I fucking love your videos, there’s something so comforting about them that I can’t explain and can’t wait for the next one.

[@Justin_Taylor]

@@northern_patriot0691

[@TacticalMetalhead]

Just a note, autonomous AI drones exist. This guy says "we won't see robots making decisions for themselves anytime soon". America's first autonomous kill with an AI drone was October 23, 2023.

[@Rico-v7r]

This has the same energy as truckers afraid of their inevitable replacement by autonomous trucks

[@harrisontull8377]

18 year olds getting paid $22,000 will always be cheaper than a multi-million dollar robot

[@Janovich]

09:36 That 3 seconds of Combat Arms bring back so many amazing memories

[@Liminal_Simulacre]

11:30 The IDF would disagree. Just look up what "Where is Daddy" and "Lavender" are. They were already used to target civilians in Gaza. "AI" for target selection is already a real thing.

[@jimijo1440]

Walking human shaped military robots are fun and games until you play generation zero

[@polishbot]

the black swedish hunter standing atop the hill with a red laser pointer on his shoulder tracking directly into your right eye:

[@mason96575]

LMAO! I was not expecting the mule to actually sound like that! I’m glad you included the actual clip with audio 😂

[@DarkVeghetta]

I just found this channel last video. I'm one video away from subscribing - info is solid and the humor is on point.

[@bradybaker7650]

I think its odd we made robot horses when we probably could have just used horses

[@shamasmacshamas7135]

When a horse goes without water it dies. When a robotic horse goes without recharging it stops and can be easily put back into service.

[@bradybaker7650]

@@shamasmacshamas7135 are you going to have a smaller robot horse to carry the charger for the 1st robot horse? Could have just put a water container on a real horse

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

​@bradybaker7650 You can have a human carry the battery while the horse carry the unit load.

[@bradybaker7650]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 for the price of these things you could probably get 3 or 4 horses. And say you’re in Afghanistan, horse noises wouldn’t seem out of place. Robot horse noise would.

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

Also have you seen those videos where someone stabs a phone battery with a knife and it explodes? Imagine that but with a bullet and the Boston Dynamics robot’s battery backpack.

[@Chris-i9g-w4t]

I used to work in the R&D sector of Canada's Department of National Defense and my team actually did some studies looking at these (specifically, semi-autonomous, human in the loop UGVs in the context of an infantry platoon) from the conceptual point of view. The conclusion we came to was that they won't be viable until their mobility is as good as or exceeds that of the human soldiers they're following. That means it must be able to climb stairs, get over walls, rappel down cliffs etc. Anything short of that will be a hindrance and the troops will just take its payload off it, manpack the gear, then BIP the robot.

[@or6060]

get back to me when we have robots that can clear buildings better than a bag of hand grenades

[@Spunky7819Hove-bi4eg]

I really like the German mountain infantry mule system, which is just an actual mule, and probably didn't cost 32 million

[@ThePovarPower]

Seeing E3N from CoD Infinite Warfare on the preview warms my heart❤ Rest in peace, one of the most badass robots in games...

[@clydedopheide1033]

I'm really enjoying your post Army content. Informative and funny. Keep up the great work!

[@TRD6932]

Girls Frontline will be real in 2060

[@jonny_moon]

Wym?

[@TRD6932]

@@jonny_moon Now I know this is gonna sound pretty weird to you, but imagine robot soldiers... with the facade of anime girls. Doesn't it sound... weird? Unfamiliar? Peculiar? Outlandish?

[@jonny_moon]

@@TRD6932 Sounds terrifying. Lilith manifest

[@Colonel-Sigma]

I agree, the sex bot and terminator industries will no-doubt converge by then. It's inevitable that at least some pmc's will commission a force of hot anime soldiers with multiple "functions".

[@512TheWolf512]

^ sigma, that is EXACTLY what's happening in the mentioned game. PMC employing civilian AI anime girl robots as Frontline soldiers

[@JustBecause7754]

7:13 bring back actual mules

[@floydbaker2240]

My Uncle was a Mule once, haven't seen him in a hot minute.

[@amarured]

Here in Germany our specialized Mountain Troops still do. Actually all the Armies surrunding the Alps still do. I know it for sure for the Austrian Army & the Italian Army.

[@clintbustwood4800]

Teenagers are cheaper

[@logc1921]

​@@floydbaker2240lmao

[@adamlewis1613]

the marines still use actual mules im pretty sure

[@itsajungle22]

Great info and better delivery. I, too, have been waiting for a robot to take my job. Just as soon as Ai can manage GCSS-Army and DTMS, I'm set.

[@dennisnaffah8733]

Love your channel! Keep up the great work. You could probably do the history of rifle programs that were trying to replace the M16 & M4. Maybe even get into the Sig XM7.

[@TheBoss0110101001]

Horse cyborgs are the future.

[@phblanco5720]

been loving your videos lately!!!

[@MrZucchini]

Finally, someone's asking the real questions.

[@ph_H01]

Great work buddy! And thank you for the link!

[@jamesmcpherson8599]

I know it was a throwaway line but I would actually like to see a video about the ethical ramifications of drone warfare with interviews or information gathered from drone operators either Ukrainian or American

[@SERRATIONS]

Just make T-Dolls already bro

[@TheOnlyCrow.]

Bro looks like a thin Pablo Escobar.

[@phyarth8082]

To have bipedal cyborgs we need all Earth make totally flat, pave whole worlds in asphalt. Failure of Afghanistan that it has not higher ground but Tora Bora thousand kilometers of cave passages.

[@jaketheturkey7689]

America will have truly won when the entire world is a parking lot

[@ButchersBoxingShop]

your point about humans being able to be better soldiers i agree with except on one point, mechanized ordinance and troops would be perfect for holding lines. imagine we programmed a bot that was basically just a windowless armoured vehicle, and had dozens of smaller obots with various anti air guns and anti infantry guns on wheels follow it. you have a mobile programmable base, not only one that doesnt require troops to hold, it doesnt even require troops to move camp. the seond use is in gun fights, id like to see a mobile deployable robot thats a couple feet tall but is basilly a roomba with auto shotgun, and its set to advance forward and lock onto targets in a straight line, this allows operators to pull of effective clovers without asking a buddy to man their spot to maintain the battlefield control, and no one has to actually be right in the line of fire to give cover. also this is a bit out there but the only type of robotic soldiers well ever get, i think atleast, are exoskeleton soldiers. eventually armour and ordinance will become one thing to make it more mobile. soldiers will have screens in their headgear, or on their arms or backs. things like bags will be turned into more drawable compartments. were already creating what is basically plate armour with kevlar with the new stuff that vest companies are making. the next step is to also make the shell of protection a soldier has his eyes, ears and connection to other battlefield information, like a spartan or batman for fictional examples. though i think theyll actually manifest alot more like Elysium and call of duty advanced warfare. you can already build a exoskeleton rig that resembles those designs irl and work pretty similarly to how they do, strap some armour plates on there and you have what i think will ever be the closest we get to a robot or super soldier irl, if it ever does happen. the other reason why i think this is relevant because the suit would undoubted be programmed to be able to walk and maneuver for the wearer incase they were knocked unconscious or possibly kia in active gun fire, instead of having to go right to the hot zone to retrieve the soldier, the suit is capable of getting up on all fours and walk towards saftey wich should be pretty simple for a robot we have now what with their senses of balance.

[@r3dn3ckpr0]

My best friend was going to go to college for some Darpa-style like war robots engineering. Graduated a year early to research and get himself ready for the career path and everything. Then one day while researching it he saw that like some UN thing or something had passed making the types of machines he wanted to build effectively outlawed or something so it kinda threw his whole career path off. If that's not the case I need to call bro right now and tell him to get on it and build some drones for a living.

[@WarBerJr02]

From what you have said here, it seems that we should use robots to support fighting troops. Like robot supply trucks, and robot mechanics that can actually fix the tanks and trucks and robot supply trucks that are going to be on the battlefield.

[@eoghannolan741]

Damn I just want there to be a tank with 4 or more big armored legs

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Make deployable defense systems. Point them at an area you want to defend and they would target everyone moving in that area. Like mines covering an area but it's an autonomus machinegun emplacement instead. Best at night if they also have thermals. Alternatively they can be controlled from the trench by a soldier (by wire). Practicly they can't be supressed.

[@JeffBobb-yu5hd]

Not what you think had a hilarious video on how donkeys outperform robots dogs in transport capability

[@TgamerBio5529]

Recon and logistics I definitely see robots in higher quantities including other support and assistant roles being the future.

[@BirdRaiserE]

Clankers shouldn't be allowed to own or operate firearms. I'd say more about what robots shouldn't be allowed to do, but my last comment on the matter mysteriously got deleted. Probably by an offended clanker.

[@inquisitorialllama638]

Can't believe the KZbin intelligence would allow hateful comments like yours😡

[@shadowslayer205]

Bro it's 2024, you can't say the C word! The proper term is Artificial-Americans!

[@oompalumpus699]

Subbed because I only found out you're involved with Task and Purpose as well as NotWhatYouThink.

[@thomaskalbfus2005]

Robots are easier to replace than human beings. All you have to do is manufacture a new one when it gets destroyed. What happens when a human gets destroyed? How long does it take to replace that human? About 18 years?

[@GnosticAtheist]

ChatGPT agrees with you. When I asked "should the military have humanoid robots or go for tracked systems" it went into a long analysis of envio and energy usage, transportation utility and repair problems. It also dissed the human body for being to costly for to little gain or some such. Basically the computer power to make a humanoid move around would be the main usage of the AI, instead of focusing on the actual mission parameters. It seemed to have given this a lot of thought.

[@badaoe3stratsonly130]

I think we will definitely see humanoid robots appear. Not as a replacement for tracked systems, but as a decoy for valuable human operators. The first step will be the military giving their best operators better armor. Then the military will use motors so their best operators will stay mobile while wearing better armor. Then the enemy will prioritize hitting any one with that armor, using expensive weapon systems like high quality drones to target those high value operators. Then our military will create robot shaped soldiers that wear that armor, so the enemy will waste their expensive weapon systems on the decoys. And the enemy will falsely believe that they have killed our operators, who can then suprise the enemy at a later date. Building robots as a replacement for standard infantry isn't worth it. Using Robots as a decoy for special forces. To decieve the enemy and make them waste division level assets. That could be worth it.

[@ambi_cc8464]

The only reason humans are bipedal and have that distinct shape from quadrupeds is for long distance running with less energy usage tho, maybe balance and stability are much more of a priority but idk I think there’s something in that design for machines as well

[@DS-ej7zt]

​@@ambi_cc8464 tracks and wheels are way more energy efficient than legs

[@riddell26]

​@@ambi_cc8464 machines dont have the same limitations on endurance as biologicals. It is pretty useless to be bipedal in that regard

[@lv1543]

@@riddell26they are limited by power and power supplies.

[@bully_hunter_7772]

Just subbed man. Great content I cant stop binging. You remind me of task and purpose

[@TarsonTalon]

There's a very simple reason WHY robots aren't being used in the military: It's because most infantry-sized robots could easily be taken out by WWI/WWII anti-tank rifles. In fact, it would finally give them a use since modern tanks and armored vehicles have been too tough to disable with anti-tank rifles for a long time now. They just need to stop trying to replace people, and relearn diplomacy.

[@shadowslayer205]

But diplomacy isn't profitable for military contractors.

[@shamasmacshamas7135]

Something being vulnerable to enemy fire is no argument at all, otherwise infantry have been obsolete and without use since the invention of the arrow. Being immune to the prolific small-arms of the world (and by extension artillery fragments/shrapnel) would be of immense value.

[@shadowslayer205]

​​ @shamasmacshamas7135 Exactly. The valuble aspect of robots wouldn't be that they're 'invincible,' it's the fact that they can be deployed without putting humans at risk. Sure, you can kill a robot, but that robot doesn't have a family that will be devastated to learn it won't be coming home.

[@shaider1982]

The light infantry term originated from teams of soldiers that operated independently of the main body (i.e. the phalanx for greeks.or the line infantry when muskets ruled supreme. With armies going with small unit tactics, all.modern squads fight like light infantry.

[@CatvsShark]

When is the military gonna start using AT-ATs, AT-TEs or some other sort of walking vehicles?

[@chancepaladin]

having 2-3 story tall walkers would be nice. but without reactive armor I feel like they'd be picked off in seconds. ;( I think you'd have to protect them like a carrier, where it'd have to have little reactive armor satellites, or some such. then it'd be an absolute juggernaut.

[@atwcat9370]

@@chancepaladin It would still get absolutely destroyed and would be largely useless. Better to be small and mobile than big and slow.

[@K-Effect]

I want to see more of those, I don’t really know what they’re called “bio suits” or “exo suits” that make people stronger, I think that would be very useful in the military.

[@genericname42]

If you replace the drivers of tanks with autonomous pilots (auto loaders are an easier way to cut down on personell if you ask me), you don't receive more tanks. You still have to scale matinence, produce more tanks, and implement the matenince personell who can fix the autonomous pilot. Tldr, basically, you're not getting more tanks, just more matenince personell and less combat arms.

[@Lobos222]

Mine clearing, indirect fire and surveillance is what robots and drones should focus on. Just imagine you are clearing a trench, I am a exMil shock trooper btw, and you have a mini drone ala the Hornet Nano you can deploy. You just click a button to lase something and you instantly see what indirect fire options there are on that point and the ETA to hit. Then you already have these tracked robots further back that went into position just before the attack and are carrying heavy mortars (tube and ammo at a weight level too high for a human mortar patrol) or worse, howitzer size, that you can order to fire on a shock trooper squad or mortar squad level. Have similar communication ability on the ACOGs or similar and you would create allot more easier indirect fire ability. That said, not sure USA would focus on such because they rather go with larger scale attacks, get air superiority and then just B52 the trenches before an assault if they needed to go through a given point.

[@movie_mogols]

Dude I love your videos

[@dustinbelle3251]

You should deep a deep dive on physical fitness and it's impacts (or lack thereof) on combat lethality or survivability backed by data! I am a believer that physical fitness is a mental and health factor, but only marginally a combat factor

[@Justin_Taylor]

No data, only vibes.

[@RRKS]

I feel like the remote controller tanks could be viable. Yes, you need people to repair them.. But you probably wouldn't jump out in the middle of a fire fight to repair it. So let's say that you have 400 people on 100 tanks. Instead you have 100 people controlling them and 40 people in maintenance duty close enough to be there in a few minutes, but far enough away from the fight. So rather than having people train on being good at tanking and repairing, now you can train dedicated crews for each task, which is also a bonus. I get that a tank crew might be far away from a good repair crew, but they'd at least have to know the basics to keep their tank running. Learning that takes time from learning battle.

[@caseymurray7722]

Wheeled robot dogs offer speed now. This is looking to be the best design as you get the suspension and even ground capability built into the arms and the speed from using powered wheels

[@macleanhawley1742]

I love that this channel is basically Internet Shaquille for guns lol it's so good!

[@matthorrocks6517]

Step 1 cause panic step 2 build robots to save lives step 3 use robots to attack population. Game over

[@Justin_Taylor]

@@matthorrocks6517 personally I think we’re closer to robot soldiers than some kind of exo suit for combat tbh. It’s easier to just make our equipment lighter.

[@BogusMogus123]

Jamming comms, EMP pulses, hacking, battery dying, and I am sure there are more things that could disable something like this easily

[@Thaidory]

Terrain on the frontline is tough to cross for trained humans. Ground robots are far from having mobility to cross that frontline. Aside from assaults on infantry positions land robots are extensively used for logistics and demining. Land robots is the only thing that might bring the cost of demining farmland down to being economically feasible. With regards to flying drones - drones that do fully autonomous kill missions are a thing for over a year and their numbers are on the rise.

[@Etheoma]

You probably mention this in the video, but a combat drone you need to have a fairly high level of autonomy, but most people don't want drones to be able to have the ability to give the final say on whether someone dies or not. To be fair you can have a fairly high level of autonomy without that ability, but it's being able to execute that autonomy efficently while not smashing into teas or running over babies on the ground and thanks just for tracked / wheeled vehicles, for a robot that can use weapons like a human that will be expensive which kinda defeats the propose of drone of reducing risk if each drone costs 300k or so you can train a new recruit for that much, for planes like you spend millions and many years training them so attack, fighter or bomber also flying is a lot less complected for a computer to figure out so flying drones makes a bunch of sense.

[@chancepaladin]

when ya want skynet , but have to settle for rewatching sarah connor chronicles again, cuz there just aint nothin better.

[@JP-th8sq]

I feel like the best use for a bipedal combat robot is unironically just as shock troops, which honestly considering how deep the forestry-war interface is the same technology would get used to replace handfallers for most situations since just like the military, most of new logging technologies point is make it safer. They could also mind wipe death row inmates and use their brains as the computer for a bipedal combat robot thats basically just a bigger person, less need for fancy walking software and such. Robot could deal with recoil easier and carry more ammo while not being affected by the environment as much. Just a bunch of terminators with M240s being fired from the hip. I would not trust a robot driver unless for long distance where nothing is going on. Using AI for spotting, with a second commander optic on a telescoping periscope would be incredibly useful and I'm sure the technology for that is the most advanced. The robot mules are eh since you could just use actual mules which have pros, mules donkeys and horses might notice stuff before you since they are prey animals, plus with some of the switch of the army to more "we need to practice living off the land and yada yada" a mule or a donkey or horse doesn't need lube and batteries, it needs fodder and some grooming. Plus they are quieter.

[@dafp8833]

As a Ukrainian I wish for a robot army every christmas, but they never came(((. But we do try our best we have robot dogs , remote controlled turrets and so many drones I can't even count them ant more.

[@karlslicher8520]

We already have plenty of automated kill weapons. Even the smart weapon definition is present with blind fire missiles that have the ability to find themselves a target if they have to.

[@easter3000]

I remember that robo mule in Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 - it was very useful as mobile cover.

[@willi2kj]

that boston dynamics robot could totally be the replacement to that loud diesel tank pig robot thing they had in the other clip. i saw the video of the dancing dog bots too. that humanoid would be like mom and the dogs be the flock that its responsible for guiding in soldiers wake with supplies and the humanoid could have means to defend/repair/manage the fleet. then soldiers can focus on the fun part of murder un-interrupted by bare necessities of life

[@SpookieP]

Love your stuff, Surprised you didn't mention Palantir, Defense though. That's AI military gaming. It calculates how many soldiers are needed to do X with X% likely fatality - making it's use controversial, but it also saves lives - and is used heavily now in the West. Its one of the suggested reasons for the difficult Ukraine offensive last summer, because Valerii Zaluzhnyi didn't want to use it/didn't agree with sending people forward with the full knowledge X % were being sent to die.

[@freezedeve3119]

robots does not change the fact that in the end you have to personally defend yourself when everything else failed, so robots will never remove humans from war as there is no free space for wars really.

[@hobomaster6237]

those remote UGVs are so dope

[@soldier22881]

those walkin robots is how you get skynet

[@davem4316]

i think what's really keeping automation from completing a circuit between the dirty work and the ruling class is the way it would directly implicate those in power. nobody thinks about having a sitting president tried of a capital crime when a bomb lands on the wrong building right now; nobody thought on hearing news of a baby crib recall associated with a few deaths or a contaminated packaged frozen food incident , surely someone at the top will face the music. if the guy who declares war on another country presses a button and then a bunch of people die, all those deaths are demonstrably on his hands. same story if the only human who made your pink slime had no one else to blame if you got sick. not just new computer driven automation but all the layers of most past societies are just a way for the rich and powerful to diffuse negative consequences away from themselves without relinquishing any of the benefits of control

[@clothandleather2838]

If we did get tanks like that, world of tanks players would be drafted asap

[@nickhockings443]

Turns out working out the shape, materials, mechanics of the world is still very hard. Working out the difference between a bicycle and a bicycle shaped object is harder. Distinguishing camouflaged positions from decoys is off scale hard (unless the sensor makes it easy). Hence we are stuck with flying/driving drones FPV for now. Deep Learning hasn't delivered the magic, because fundamentally it doesn't cope with things it has not seen before (custom motorcyles at night), because it really just memorizes without much depth of understanding. That does not cut it, when there are moderately intelligent enemy soldiers trying to make things harder. Wrt legged robots, I'd like to see them carry packs across peat bogs and rock runs (boulder fields) from San Carlos to Port Stanley, or up a via ferrata on the Austrian-Italian border. They don't seem any more mobile than wheeled/tracked ATVs of the same weight.

[@omegaweapon1980]

High torque servos and actuators needed to articulate even a human strength level bots, are super expensive.

[@Salamandra40k]

I still think if a working, non-elon branded neural linkage type thing ever gets made, humanoid robots will become far more practical than they are right now.

[@ImRuined666]

The simplest answer for why we don't have robot soldiers is that people are still cheaper to train, equip and replace, exactly as you said...

[@smiley148784]

Do you want Terminators? Because this is how you get Terminators...

[@mavrickalexander]

Power source. Litterally the power source is what’s holding us up. We have hydraulic and electric motor bots that have strength, speed, extreme dexterity, flexibility, and could totally combine all those for a really insane humanoid bots straight out of a sci fi movie. We even have our software fairly decent nowadays. AI and machine learning would allow for semi-complete automation. But it would only have a couple hours before having to recharge. Ofcourse depending on its work load over time, but still it NEEDS to last MINIMUM, 10hrs under heavy load. Current batteries have a ways to go in advancement to be possible.