A obviously. Even not talking about how bad they were last year. They are 1st in pacific. Without a doubt an A rebuild. The fact that they were so bad last year just makes it better
@matthewsmith22377 ай бұрын
@@JaredGoofballThe rebuild itself was a B-. Alvin’s retool however was a resounding A+
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
@@matthewsmith2237The rebuild got us a Generational dman, franchise center, franchise goalie, and elite goal scorer in Hughes, Pettersson, Demko, and Boeser. It’s an automatic A+ as they got the most important pieces you need to win a stanley cup. Then coming out the rebuild made the best trade in franchise history getting JT Miller. Allvin has done a masterful job getting the pieces to surround this elite core to take the next step.
@DeathGamingOfficialYT7 ай бұрын
@@pegasus6116 Honesly, petterson isnt worth the 11 million in the playoffs rn. i mean hes almost getting paid as much as panarin. and he has more than pasta rn
@ponchopyro33147 ай бұрын
@@DeathGamingOfficialYT I think he can figure it out; at his top end he's elite, but he's in his own head rn.
@BrendanMorrisonHockey7 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on Rob! It was great talking to you and the video turned out awesome. Let's do it again sometime.
@birgerfurugard72597 ай бұрын
Subbed dude
@Kel3367 ай бұрын
This is hilarious. No way this is B Morrison. 😂 so random 🔥
@sports2hedz5427 ай бұрын
@kel336 Pfff...look at his channel punk. Mr. Morrison, loved you here, and subbed to your feed!
@b-laz-e7 ай бұрын
Good to see you on youtube!
@BrendanMorrisonHockey7 ай бұрын
@@sports2hedz542 Thank you!
@UpperDav7 ай бұрын
The best teams are the ones who make their luck. As I once heard an analyst say "You gotta get lucky to get good, but you gotta get good to get lucky."
@raysrock557 ай бұрын
THG saying and its 100% true
@jonmendelson11047 ай бұрын
@@raysrock55 It's a pretty widespread saying, not just THG.
@theDaveStanzito7 ай бұрын
Since my beloved Red Wings failed to show up to the dance, I'm rooting for your boys to take it home. Who doesn't love a good underdog story? I've been following you for a long time and you're channel just keeps getting better. Congrats Rob!
@VafaPhotography7 ай бұрын
So funny. I absolutely hate Bruins, despise Oilers, can't stand Leafs (with the rest of Canada in agreement), don't get me started with the garbage goal Flamers, Avs fans I cringe to see in the stands a whole bunch of soccer mom Karens but if any team deserves a watch, admiration and node is RWings and their fans. Hats off to you.
@lenaforsgren7 ай бұрын
Sort of the same! Wings fan who has sort of been keeping a close eye on the Canucks as a backup 😅❤️ The comeback against Nashville almost moved me to tears, partly because I got flashbacks to Detroit’s amazing comebacks this season! 🤩😍❤️ As Patrick Kane said after Detroit had been eliminated: “it’s like nothing I’ve seen before, there’s no quit in this team.” Canucks proved that they also are, or at least can be, that kind of team. Gotta love it! 😍😍😍
@bruced66267 ай бұрын
@@VafaPhotography if the nucks get knocked; edmonton, winnepeg and even the leafs have my hopes to win the cup
@theDaveStanzito7 ай бұрын
@@lenaforsgren I don't think Kane is coming back (unfortunately) so I'm hoping Stevie swings for the fences and reels in Stamkos or maybe even Marchessault (damn VGK are a cutthroat organization). If the Canucks don't make it, part of me wants to see McDavid win one. I'm not a big Holland fan and, sure, the league pushes him hard, but he really does put in the extra effort. Just my two cents. It might be petty, but I was glad that the Caps got swept. I can't bring myself to root for the Rangers either. Maybe Carolina? Hopefully the Canucks keep it rolling and I don't need to go there!
@SRGNTSLUGHTR7 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@RefinedQualia7 ай бұрын
Craziest thing about this series is Demko has been out since Game 1, his back up was injured in Game 3, and now theyre playing with a friggin rookie goalie
@allewis40087 ай бұрын
Latvias star goalie with a bronze medal, he's not just some rando.
@TheOphetGlazer7 ай бұрын
@@allewis4008 yeah but hes still unproven in the nhl, after yesterday hes only got 10 games nhl experience
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
It’s absurd man lmao
@hawkeyyy7 ай бұрын
Mvp of the last IIHF
@mathelogical25637 ай бұрын
Wrong.. 4 games in NHL and played his first playoff game which means it was his 5th game..@WeLoveOphetPhimsipasom
@staffan1447 ай бұрын
Changing the coach (and hence the culture in the team) was the best move that made all the difference
@acermaniacboy7 ай бұрын
We gotta give Silov hell of a lot of credits for saving a lot of so many shots in Game 4 last night 💪 Let's get game 5, go canucks go❤
@Uncle_Troy7 ай бұрын
PDO is merely a ratio of shooting percentage and save percentage. It cannot tell you that the Canucks prefer to cycle over shooting mindlessly at the net, or that we have not one, but two of the best goalie coaches in our system -- Ian Clark in Vancouver, and Igor Shesterkin's goalie coach back in his KHL days in Marko Torenius. It cannot tell you why Hogs scored 24 goals at even strength despite being on four different lines this season, and it can't tell you how good Lindholm has been defensively as a centerman. I think PDO caters to human psychology because it tries to provide a simple answer to a tough question which is what most people truly want in life, no matter how skewed or flawed the end result may be. Boston's PDO was high as well last year, but nobody even knew what PDO was until the Canucks overachieved (allegedly).
@RichardTavilla7 ай бұрын
Really gonna be cheering for your wings next yeat
@cross_ie75907 ай бұрын
I remember before the season Boston won the presidents some people and myself thought they would have a bad year with the roster not looking as good as the year before it but now it’s makes sense that they’re PDO was higher than normal and them losing in the first round would make so much more sense than it jus being “playoff” hockey
@Uncle_Troy7 ай бұрын
@@cross_ie7590 A lot of that also came down to the little things not being done optimally by Boston in the final 3 games of their playoffs last season, and speaks volumes about a statistical factor called standard deviation, which is SO important to consider when analyzing empirical statistics yet is getting overlooked by everyone in the hockey world because they only want to focus on one stupid number. 🙄
@override837 ай бұрын
Never heard of this channel until I seen this title, but I clicked it thinking you were going to burn the Canucks. But one of the top comments I see is Brendan Morrison responding saying "thanks for having me" made me instantly interested in what had to be said! To have a legend like #7 on your channel and video and the break downs both of you have put in, became an instant fan and sub. Preds were downed in a hard fought series, where I don't think the 3-1 series win doesn't justify thinking Canucks "owned" them in any means. I'm stoked for the Edmonton series!
@Darren512837 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure about the PDO thing because some teams tend to pepper the net with low probability shots whereas other teams tend to hang on to the puck as they try for the perfect tick-tack-toe goal. Teams that strive for perfect goals will, in theory, end up with a higher PDO.
@VexOW17 ай бұрын
your work is beautiful, i think i am going to rewatch it
@sandorski567 ай бұрын
Been expecting them to choke all season. They haven't yet. Goaltending is the unknown variable right now, so far so good.
@bdog42807 ай бұрын
I actually didn’t give up on them yesterday and what a comeback .
@noahbasarm5117 ай бұрын
I think of Canucks don’t get more pucks to the net they arnt getting past round 2
@Nucksfan17 ай бұрын
@@noahbasarm511 I mean we could blow the series lead you never know😭😭😭
@aleckocsis76487 ай бұрын
Puck luck taking us all the way ya 😂
@neiljohnson79147 ай бұрын
Being the huge frauds they are, the canucks shouldn't even be allowed to play on the playoffs, even if they won the pacific division.
@Seriously_Unserious7 ай бұрын
When it comes to matters of luck, the best statement I've heard is "good teams create their own luck." If you're a good team, you'll be creating situations where you're more likely to get the good bounces or capitalize on that strange bounce that put the puck on the back door with an open net. Because the good teams will have a guy on that back door for just such an eventuality. Bad teams will have that guy behind the net or in the corner, so the puck trickles through and nobody's there and the D or goalie eventually clears or smothers it. Or that puck tricked through the goalie at the other end and a d-man or backchecking forward was there, Jonny on the spot to clear it out of harm's way before the other team could do any real damage. Bad teams don't do that and that loose puck is left sitting that extra fraction of a second longer where an attacking player may just get to it ahead of the goalie and bang it in.
@Traumatree7 ай бұрын
I'd rather see the Canucks go on with some luck and win then another US team that is "helped" by the referees during the playoffs like we've seen since the past 10 years...
@anonymousrex52077 ай бұрын
You've got some juice Rob when you can get a legend like Brendan Morrison on your show... good to see how much he is still into the hockey culture. With the talent that Vancouver has, I'm surprised it has taken them this long to get back into contention. I think the team management was the biggest hurdle as they made some bad deals that hurt their bottom 6, as well as the defense, for several years. The coaching change is huge... Tocchet is one of those guys who is great at motivating people. I watched Tocchet play, and also got to see him coach, and I can definitely say the guy knows how to get the most from his players.
@storeymark7 ай бұрын
Great interview
@stephenphillips62457 ай бұрын
An improved Hughes is the exact reason Nashville has been smashvill-ing him, unfortunately.
@OhEnergyHD7 ай бұрын
Brendan Morrison should be on a national network! He clearly has an immense amount of knowledge and a unique perspective to offer i hope he gets everything he want out of his online showing! This man has been a star in the show and was one of my favourite players growing up!
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@EliasBoesersson7 ай бұрын
Another absolute banger from Rob.
@gregpellegrin87137 ай бұрын
I’m not so sure about this, I fully expected Vancouver to handle Nashville with relative ease
@BarbedWireSounds7 ай бұрын
Nashville is a big physical team, I figured it would be the biggest hurdle for Vancouver. They came out swinging in game 1 and I thought “wow, they’re really gonna do it.”
@appletree137 ай бұрын
@@BarbedWireSounds honestly to me it seems to be LA. Their stupid lineup strategy seems to be a huge problem for us.
@terminalfilms80747 ай бұрын
Idk as a person watching this series game to game, I’ve been stressed every game thinking the nucks were gonna lose. 😂
@MrPointmidget7 ай бұрын
The Canucks outplayed Nashville in Game 2 for most of the game but lost. I think the message going into Game 3 was to not lose sight of the prize and stick to the system because statistically Nashville couldn't keep winning if the Canucks kept playing the way they did in Game 2. Game three was won on hard work and sticking to the system, and Game three was won on resilience. They were able to shake off the "accidentally on purpose" tripping of Petey during their celi. They didn't challenge the kicked puck, but instead overcame those hurdles and came back to win. I fake team can't do that.
@Shaquille693557 ай бұрын
We've had to play not one, not two, but THREE goalies, and we're still finding ways to win. Sure it's not the cleanest wins, but we're up 3-1. This team is legit
@daveeamerful7 ай бұрын
This is a great breakdown. Your seeing the game at a high level and explaining it wonderfully.
@David-kg5nn7 ай бұрын
Great collab!
@strungoutkid7 ай бұрын
Great video! A lot of insight and perspective on the game. Thanks!
@Pr0fessor_P7 ай бұрын
Love the collab!! Great work once again.
@jacksonjacob77917 ай бұрын
This core group always kind of played this way. In the series against Vegas few years ago for example they were outshot badly and still managed to take them to 7 games.
@beneasler88687 ай бұрын
Analytics get so specific these days they end up missing or leaving out important context. When a team "defies statistical models" for a whole season the models likely need to be recalibrated.
@basketballjones45972 ай бұрын
being at rogers during the national anthem during the preds series brought my ass to tears, the city was electric! Awesome seeing brendo! van legend.
@brycecoloma51817 ай бұрын
loved hearing your guys opinions. I grew up on the West Coast Express line!! Brendan Morrison, Todd Bertuzzi and Markus Naslund will always hold a special place in my hockey heart.
@eonk57037 ай бұрын
really nice analytics. quiet the contrast to the topic 'huge frauds.' i'm impressed!!
@ObsidianDrew7 ай бұрын
I'm so proud of the Canucks! Go Canucks Go!! Boeser you stud!
@irafair30157 ай бұрын
How can they be frauds if you never expected anything from them in the first place? Could it be their division is weak?
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
Just a picture perfect rebuild getting a Franchise C/D/G/W in Pettersson/Hughes/Demko/Boeser and trading for a franchise powerforward in JT Miller. Hoglander turning into a 25 goal scorer, blue chip prospects still on the way in Lekkerimaki and Willander. Plus guys like Silovs, Raty, Pettersson, and Podkolzin. Fantastic 3rd line with Garland/Joshua. Unreal time to be a Canucks fan right now.
@pcoleman19717 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis. I remember debating last year whether the Canucks should trade away Boeser. We could see his potential, but it was not showing. Now, we're so happy he's still with Vancouver. I don't know how far we'll go this year, but it's all just icing on the cake from this point.
@robocock4757 ай бұрын
Second Round exits especially if you have to face elite teams like Colorado or Dallas without Demko
@pcoleman19717 ай бұрын
@@robocock475 If you had told me in October that the Canucks would finish top of the Pacific, and lose in the 2nd round, I would say that's pretty good. So, even if you're right, I'm OK with that.
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@KennethFuller-ko4cx7 ай бұрын
First and foremost, it's sad when a title depicts a message that a hockey team is fraud when that team is doing everything possible to win a playoff game. We have to remember that any team in this playoff has a chance to win the Stanley Cup. Now if an underdog wins the Stanley Cup does that mean they are frauds too?
@burnabymike7 ай бұрын
Analytics can give some good context and lay some foundation, but it doesn't measure cohesiveness and heart. The Leafs, for example, are stacked with a talented core, but the Leafs don't play as a cohesive team. The Canucks were doing similar things until Tocchet came along. Now, Vancouver can throw any five guys out there and they'll play well together. On paper, the Leafs should have wiped Boston in 4, but hockey isn't played on paper and the Bruins have a tight, cohesive team who buy into a system and a formula and that's why they're up 3-1 as of this writing.
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
Leafs also don’t have a Generational Norris winning dman in Hughes or Vezina calibre Franchise goalie in Demko. Leafs are just a horribly built team with 3 good forwards, trash defence and goaltending.
@zjsz49547 ай бұрын
We had the most insane puck luck at the beginning and of the season. If we get that back in the post season we are unstoppable. May the gods smile upon us.
@eliaminator23137 ай бұрын
Theyve been able to sustain it for a full season so we cant call them just lucky. Sure theyve definitely been lucky at times but theyve earned their luck a lot of the time this season. My only question is how sustainable is the way they play going into next season because weve seen before teams have these crazy seasons out of no where but then the next season they arent able to repeat it because teams figure out an easy way to shut them down. I dont think thats the case with the Canucks but I dont think we see them 1st in the Pacific next season either
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
Gonna be hard to shut down a team with a generational norris winning dman(Hughes), two franchise 100 point centers(Pettersson and Miller), and franchise vezina calibre goalie(Demko), and elite 40 goal scorer(Boeser). Also with blue chip prospects in Lekkerimaki and Willander still on the way. They’ll be a powerhouse for a long time.
@Jeff-qr9cg7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mister Sunshine!
@liam59097 ай бұрын
I’m confused what analysts had Nashville as favourites in the series? Not one I read did, and Vegas had Canucks as favourites to win that series.
@billk5167 ай бұрын
We so fraud cause we never truly rebuild or tank, we sucked by accident under Benning for 8 years, never won a single lottery pick (drop a couple spots almost very time), drafted a couple busts in Virtanen and Juolevi with high pick, yet lucked our way into Hughes and Boeser 😂😂😂
@kaptaan_original7 ай бұрын
Benning was terrible. So many wasted picks. His scouting team and Linden forced the Pettersson pick. Hughes, Demko, Boeser were all from the scouting team. Benning kept wanting to pick guys like Virtanen, Juolevi, Kole Lind, etc. Instead of real NHL future players.
@spelunkerd7 ай бұрын
It's a bit of a stretch to think that defending hockey players spend a lot of time going over individual shooting stats of the opposing team. Mostly they just don't want to be embarrassed, and end up on some highlight reel somewhere for years. If a player is slippery you might give him a little more room so you have enough time to react before he beats you clean. That extra room can be used to get off a shot. And defensemen will always have a lower scoring percentage because they are shooting from a greater distance. Most of the time they are looking for the tip, which if successful doesn't even count as a goal, it's an assist.
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
For sure, but teams watch film on top players to create game plans. For example, Pettersson used to be left wide open on the ride side every powerplay. He is rarely left open, because of teams studying his play style and the teams PP
@xojthejuiceman48507 ай бұрын
All you have to see is sissoons missing the open net. All luck. They have been outplayed for 3 games and the only reason why they are up is because Nashville is shooting them selfs in the foot. You can throw all these stats and other things you described in this Video but the fact of the matter is they like the devils last year were extremely lucky and healthy for most of them year. You have to be very lucky to win the amount of games they did this year. Great team but very very lucky
@WestCoast9997 ай бұрын
Rob sounds like a Salty Leafs fan. Go Canucks Go 💙
@jonmendelson11047 ай бұрын
16:52 "Only one of them would become a Star." This is true in both ways...Kevin Connauton is the only player he drafted who played for the Dallas Stars (from a 2 minute scan). It's possible some more of them played for the Texas Stars and never reached the NHL though, didn't bother verifying all of the players who never played in the NHL.
@jackthetight7 ай бұрын
Another reason for the Canucks success can be attributed to management and the overhaul of the roster. 7/13 forwards that played 40+ games this season were brought in by Alvin and Rutherford. 4/7 of the defenseman to play 40+ games were brought in by Management. Add DeSmith and you're looking at a 55% roster turnover. The core that was being built is coming through. But it takes a full roster to win and that's where Jim Benning really struggled. To top it off, the front office and coaching staff are on the same page. Players are brought in to work under Tocchet's structure. Those that haven't worked have found themselves shipped out. One or two analytics can't put the whole puzzle together. Winning is more complicated than what the data says.
@ajs15847 ай бұрын
Vancouver just has to win a Stanley cup.
@Vjurrtuiii7 ай бұрын
we just beat Nashville with our rookie goalkeeper I don’t think Nashville has a chance and I’m confident with my statement lol
@golfer4357 ай бұрын
And now?
@Vjurrtuiii7 ай бұрын
@@golfer435 and now it’s 3-2 with Vancouver having the lead at home ice.
@Vjurrtuiii7 ай бұрын
@@golfer435 correction we are not at home ice lol..
@CougarTownGaming7 ай бұрын
This is a team that creates chances that often end up on a scoring threat or a scoring goal. They are great at doing this and just stopping their opponents on the defensive end by not giving them enough room. I was at the game yesterday in Nashville and the fact that the Canucks won that game should tell you that they were great at creating a win that many thought was a loss.
@Cilvathorne7 ай бұрын
What this shows me is that Vancouver has all the pieces for a deep, playoff worthy team, but they need more experience. Their mental just isn’t there yet, and I don’t know if they could beat a Colorado or a Vegas, Carolina, Florida, the Rangers, ect.
@jimwu85327 ай бұрын
The D was a big upgrade, no longer are you relying on a few #8s for 2nd pairings. Fwds got some upgrades too. Systems. Demko not injured for most of the year, great backup for first half to 3/4 of season, then was still good.
@ynotsammy7 ай бұрын
1:05 I would take this list anyday. Garly has been our top grind player since his arrival and I love that he is with us
@viperswhip7 ай бұрын
It is important to note that although Mikeyev, Suter, and Lafferty are not producing, they are beastly defensively, they rarely make mistakes in the D zone. So, yes, we are overpaying for 4th liners, but at least they are not hurting us on the ice. Kuzmenko had to go, he did not buy in. During the high PDO time, if you actually looked at the goals, many of them were incredible chances, like open nets where you would have been UNLUCKY to not score. I think the PDO people were not actually watching the games.
@knganth3m3 ай бұрын
Oilers fan here… try not to compare Hughes and MCDAVID! Ever again… also the nucks just got lucky last year, catching the entire NHL off guard, I even doubt the nucks will make the playoffs 2025… damn those nuck fans were talking a lot of smack about the oilers … “We want Oilers”?! Well oilers won baby!… I just love watching the reaction of nuck fans after game 7 :3
@ellenhobson4387 ай бұрын
Vancouver are not frauds so don't trash talk them they will make it far in the playoffs
@mgvarga7 ай бұрын
I think game 1 against the Oilers last night proves something! That redirect shot off goalies stick was awesome! Done on purpose!
@Odysseus387 ай бұрын
Morrison is such a great guy, got to meet him a couple of times at CAN-AM events, meet bertuzzi as well, he is also a very very nice guy
@colnando7 ай бұрын
let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AaronMQuantz7 ай бұрын
@3:41 why is Hammond holding what appears to be a pancake in his hand?
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
Andrew Hammond = Hamburgerler = Hamburger man
@AaronMQuantz7 ай бұрын
@@RobTalksHockeyAh! It's a bun, not a pancake. Thanks for the info. I'm "married" to the Red Wings but have lived in Los Angeles since 1994. I have been a fan of Vegas since they were an unnamed idea in 2004, so they are my "mistress" team. I quite enjoy your content, keep it up good Sir!
@Phrovide7 ай бұрын
Put a body on Hughes and you stop him, put a body on Makar and you stop him. Having a guy like Wilson or reaves will allow for that to happen and may add to the scoring as well.
@alelectric27677 ай бұрын
They won with the Zamboni driver in goal. Jets can’t even compete with a team they beat all season. Go Canucks!
@polarlab1137 ай бұрын
McDavid held shotless in game one😂😂.They had 6 shots in the third.Canucks have always been good in the third that’s not luck
@ryanlauzon1777 ай бұрын
the moment they signed Teddy blueger I knew they were gonna be top 2 in the pacific
@Boyso54077 ай бұрын
I picked Vancouver to come out of the West but that was with Demko in net. It’s gonna be interesting to see how they play without him or DeSmith back there. Silovs was great in Game 4 but he’s still a wildcard at this point if he has to play the rest of the series
@elieugene1007 ай бұрын
Great vid
@BigSleepyJoeCooking7 ай бұрын
Man miller is just money from the top of the left circle
@colingeary37417 ай бұрын
We in Vancouver believe that they are paid to lose.
@DneilB0077 ай бұрын
PDO is not meant to be a metric for a complete team. It’s meant solely for measuring the “puck luck” of an individual player. The reason that they chose on-ice shooting percentage and on-ice save percentage is because they are two stats that a single player has the least impact on. They are both “team” stats, therefore one individual player can’t markedly improve the combined numbers.
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
That’s right. I referenced individual players as an example on how each player could potentially impact their teams PDO
@lenaforsgren7 ай бұрын
Really? PDO is also used for teams. Actually mostly for teams.
@Buzzkill-wn7tf7 ай бұрын
Well, the Canucks have delivered this year (fan since they joined the NHL--old school). Great interviews, btw. But not Frauds, just kinda unexpected interlopers. Not too terrified Team is about the goaltending situation--although activating Silovs this early is a bit...alarming. Team is strong. Love to see it. Work to be done...
@bted7 ай бұрын
This year's Canucks reminded me of last year's New Jersey, except Vancouver has a better goalie, and that's mostly a regular season comparison.
@aggregatemelons7 ай бұрын
Luck or not, I think the one thing that separates the good teams from the decent teams is that good teams capitalize on their luck. Did we get lucky that the puck hit the post at the end? Sure, but we capitalized on that luck and turned it into a win. An ok team would have still lost.
@dabootvv7 ай бұрын
luck is, when skill becomes a habit ;) also regarding drafting "skill" its also up to the development pipeline right? I would love to see you dive into that topic "Drafting vs Developing" of players
@broughtonparkade53817 ай бұрын
When we had Luongo, Kesler and the Wonder twins…. Those were the days
@bananian7 ай бұрын
Those were some exciting players. Seeing the sedins cycling for 5 minutes before doing the slap pass. 😍
@battistimo7 ай бұрын
The problem with Petey is Tocchet then. He’s coached the talent out of him.
@ViperIsStupid7 ай бұрын
The way I see it is that Nashville to win against Vancouver will have to do some miraculous comeback or they are done for.
@iagmusicandflying7 ай бұрын
It seems PDO is a hugely overrated stat. Yes, the Canucks have the highest PDO, but looks at the top 5 season PDO: 1. Vancouver Canucks 102.9 2. Winnipeg Jets 102.7 3. Boston Bruins 102.6 4. New York Rangers 102.0 5. Dallas Stars 101.8 It's difficult to seriously argue that the Bruins, Rangers, and the Stars are in the playoffs because they're frauds. So let's accept for the sake of argument that Vancouver and Winnipeg are frauds (because I've heard that said about the Jets too). So 2 of 5 are frauds. In other words, PDO is about as useful a predictive tool for identifying teams who are playing above their class as a coin flip. I like the idea of PDO reflecting a culture, though, there seems to be a little more merit to that when you sort the league by PDO, though it's still not perfect.
@brodieb50667 ай бұрын
Marking this video for when you take the “quotes” out of the title when they lose in 7
@annaotto61847 ай бұрын
Guess you can unmark it now bud
@dondraperbeats7 ай бұрын
Their series against Nashville looks like two 8th seeds. They will have to play much different to win a cup.
@ManMythLegend1237 ай бұрын
You must be happy being a canucks fun! Great team this year 👌🏻
@AllanNightingale7 ай бұрын
How's the salt taste? 😂😂😂 Go Canucks!
@BigSleepyJoeCooking7 ай бұрын
Omg bruce still looked old af back in 09 🤣
@BLANEGAME7 ай бұрын
3-1 series rn. Doesn’t seem like their fakers to me
@samy4677 ай бұрын
The Canadian faker teams are east of Edmonton.
@robertross85657 ай бұрын
The Canucks are experts at disappointing their fans.
@jamedlock837 ай бұрын
Huge Frauds my ass. . . They made an awesome comeback!
@WestCoast9997 ай бұрын
Haters gonna hate! Go Canucks Go💙
@Whateva677 ай бұрын
54 years and counting. I quit watching the canooks after the 2011 playoffs, wasted 30 years watching them before that 😅
@omfg3227 ай бұрын
To be fair conner garland has proven hes worth that trade right now at least.
@samslone94577 ай бұрын
Have you seen that kid Guenther play? No chance we got anything out of it. Right now we'd have 8.5 mill in cup space and 20 year old stud. No buyout penalty for years. That was an awful trade.
@omfg3227 ай бұрын
@@samslone9457 and we wouldn't have 20 goal scorer garland who consistently wins puck battles with people twice his size. Oel buyout isn't his fault.
@samslone94577 ай бұрын
@@omfg322 with 8.5 you could have two garlands
@4u2nvHock3y7 ай бұрын
The 2022-23 Canucks were this years Habs but with no expectations. 2023-24 Canucks will be next year Canadiens. Monty played great. Matheson played like a #1. We have a good top line. Good defense. Good forward deph. People dont realize Evans played 0 PP minutes and played only bottom 6 minutes and had 30 points as a defensive center. Caufield even with an under 9% shooting percentage almost had 30 goals still. If he has a good year and gets an 18%. He legit could hit 60 goals. They also have good pieces outside line 1. Dach. Newhook. Roy. Hutson. Guhle. All could develop to stars. Especially Hutson. This year was unlucky for Habs and a set up for next year. Just like Vancouver. Trust me. I know i 100% sound like a homer but im telling you. This will age well
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
If u can magically pull a generational norris winning dman, two 100 point franchise centers, vezina calibre franchise goalie, 40 goal elite scorer out of your ass then maybe the Habs can be like the Canucks next year.
@4u2nvHock3y7 ай бұрын
@pegasus6116 I'm not saying they will be president trophy candidates. I just think the Habs had a very unlucky year and will have a much better year. I just meant in terms of trajectory. They had 76 points this year I think next year they will have 15-20 more.
@a1way5watch1ng97 ай бұрын
The way I see luck in hockey is that there is no such thing. The puck has crazy bounces, but the best in the league can read those bounces and make plays off of them. Sure some people are just in the right place at the right time, but being in the right place is a skill on its own. You also need the reaction time to even capitalize on those opportunities, and people seem to think it's either good or bad luck that makes those things happen when in reality it's skill. The Canucks move the puck well and they have a good core, it was a matter of time before they got the puck sliding their way.
@ElDiegoMCO7 ай бұрын
How fitting considering last night.
@andrewthompson64537 ай бұрын
Pettersson is pretty much invisible in the playoffs so far...
@RR-lq3ef7 ай бұрын
Seems to be only visible when he is a defensive liability
@pegasus61167 ай бұрын
Which is a scary thought. Imagine when he gets going. Unreal amount of elite talent on that team.
@Eastvanucks7 ай бұрын
Hes gotta b hurt
@samy4677 ай бұрын
EP40 is saving himself for the next round.
@andycaldy78147 ай бұрын
This video is not aging well lol
@RobTalksHockey7 ай бұрын
It’s aging very well. The title was me confronting that narrative
@zachmalone4282 ай бұрын
When was there a team that just dominated the whole regular season and then won the Stanley cup? Seems like it's been a while but I don't really know a team off hand
@hsiehman7 ай бұрын
I BELIEVE
@Rav_Narriation3 ай бұрын
no one ever thought the canucks were frauds. A fraud team is the caps or a team that has no reason being in the playoffs and will collapse
@lukejaffray25187 ай бұрын
I dunno why you think demko is not involved in PDO cause hes had some incredibly lucky plays and games this year... All the scorpion saves are pure luck, him diving across the net and getting a hand on the puck is pure luck, 9/10 times the forward is gonna bury those goals on demko but it just so happens that he strung goals together, and Vancouver is also lucky with injuries this year in that no terrible ones but quinn hughes looks pretty slow against nashville and petterson looks a little weak and demko is out, I'm betting there are some hidden injuries, they also got lucky playing teams when they were slumping, for example they beat the oilers 3 times early in the season but that was when the oilers were the 31/32 placed team in the league but imagine people surprise when the oilers were only i think 4 points back at the end of the season.... oilers are way hotter that the canucks
@kylewhite74067 ай бұрын
Bro went god mode in game 4.. not luck
@MrDarilon237 ай бұрын
Interestingly, the teams with the top PDO in the league are also the teams who were near the top of the league. Luck? No. Just better shooting and goal tending than the rest. Trying to call it luck factor is misinterpreting the basic metrics. The league as a whole will end up with a 1.000 PDO average across all teams. Good teams will be higher, bad teams will be lower.
@PastaTime887 ай бұрын
wouldnt mind a vancouver/boston rematch, saw some canucks fans on twitter saying they need to get rid of pettersson, like hey we need a center, ill jump to have Petey on the team
@Jeff-qr9cg7 ай бұрын
Canucks fans also wanted Boeser out. Years ago, they didn't think highly of the Sedins, early in their careers. Too much rain out there. Their brains get water-logged. Go Canucks!
@conservativeamber12167 ай бұрын
Forsberg kick in goal = FRAUD Hronek needs to go Suter needs to finish We've had the second Lowest shots in a series ever for a first Round Canucks in 7!!
@gator69977 ай бұрын
Im sure if we win the cup everyone will say it was a fluke and all the bounces just went our way...
@theo.ap227 ай бұрын
YO BRO COME HERE THERES A NEW ROB VIDEO
@darshannickolchuk20957 ай бұрын
Brotato!
@finneganfly7 ай бұрын
Luck is a factor, but you also create luck with hard work.