Why I SOLD my BMW F900XR after only 6 MONTHS

Despite a promising start, I never really gelled with the F900 and here's why :(
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[@FFA_PT]

I live in Portugal and I bought a F900R in May of 2020. I was watching your video and I feel like everything that happened to you, happen to me. In fact I made a video in December talking about some of the problems that I found in my bmw but I never release it, because I didn't want to warm the brand. I had issues with leaking oil from engine and anti freeze while the engine was too hot (as usual). The costumer service was terrible I even complain to BMW in germany but it was nothing to them, they didn't care. I tell all my fans and friends that the premium quality you buy in BMW it isn't there. The engine is quite boring and the differences in dynamic pro modes aren't there. The quickshift is the worst that I ever experienced ever. Congrats for the video, maybe soon I will release mine. Regards :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Oh wow, it sounds as if you had a very similar experience to me. I would like to see your video :)

[@Milen4u]

FFA I also have loss of oil. This has been going on for months now. The dealer was too busy to take the bike, and I was adding oil. Then they took it, couldn't see any leaks, filed a case to the support and toped it. I rode about 1200km and had to add 500ml. because it was at the minimum which Apparently I shouldn't had done because it messed with the procedure (they didn't tell me this in advance). I went back to the dealer, they changed the oil and told me to ride 1000km or until the oil is to the min, which happened at the same time. They took it again, and called me to say that the support's answer was that the dip stick shouldn't be trusted and that the oil was overfilled and the bike was burning the excess???? They supposedly drained the same amount they put, which can't be true as I was regularly checking the level going down. Did you find where the leak was comming from? I read other cases of leaks so this might be a common issue. I can't see any drips or oil residue on the engine.

[@mickrick84]

When so called "Premium" is only the price..

[@tiagofigueiredo2529]

@FFA The engine of that bike is designed and built in china by Loncin, a Chinese brand known for copying Honda engines for years. 👎 Not worth buying that bike when you have Japanese bikes with engines still made in Japan for the same amount of money. 🤷‍♂

[@lakaiskates8064]

Appreciate your guy's opinions and experiences. I was on the fence between the F900XR and Triumph Street Triple RS (I know they're two completely different bikes lol) but now I think I'm pretty convinced to just go with the Triumph.

[@DarthFaded80]

Bad reviews are equally as important, if not more important, than good reviews. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Doug :)

[@Tax2Me]

I agree 100% on the sentiment

[@hermanstokbrood]

It isn't a review. It's just a explanation why Rocketman wasn't satisfied with his choice. You could ague about the reason of his experience. To me it seems a bit strange but it seems that his expectations where just too high related to the price. By the way I don't own a BMW, never had one either.

[@TK-cl1jm]

@@hermanstokbrood You just defined review, lol.

[@hermanstokbrood]

@@TK-cl1jm not really. An opinion from an (ex) owner perspective is worth 10 times the review of an "professional" review of a few hours.

[@PMitchell106]

8:54 Saying you never used the cornering ABS is a bit like saying you never used the airbag in your car...

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Fair comment, I should have chosen a different example of a 'useless' gadget :)

[@samsara3694]

@@RocketMan_Moto Please don't take this as a negative comment but a polite one, to firstly note the same - that you probably wouldn't have been aware that the cornering abs was in fact keeping you safe. But secondly, whilst it was of course one's choice not to use the suspension setting - personally I have found these very useful indeed on my GS - you were using the adaptive suspension. Some folks seem to confuse the stiffness settings with the fact that the suspension is adaptive, and that whatever stiffness setting you have chosen the suspension is constantly making rapid adjustments as you ride. It's a bit like the adaptive sports suspension you can option for bmw - and other - cars (I have it on my m240i). Btw, I love keyless go as well! I hope you find these comments constructive, with kind regards.

[@mattingray5651]

Unless you are a professional, and without measuring tool, you will never know precisely when the ABS kicks in. I would NEVER consider ABS a "useless gadget". It is NOT a gadget, it is a safety feature to keep you alive.

[@samuelcurran714]

@@mattingray5651 you can feel ABS kick in on some of the systems. I can't comment on the latest ones but if they have become undetectable that's quite recent. They make the whole bike shudder a lot when they do go.

[@PMitchell106]

@@samuelcurran714 The new BMW's don't start noticeably pulsating right away, there is a gradual regulation of brake pressure depending on the situation (aggressive pulsation at lean would not be a good thing). On the BMW connected app you can see exactly at what points during a ride any of the rider aides was active. Often the points of mild intervention go completely unnoticed by the rider.

[@grahamhiggins1]

Thanks for making this video, I have heard similar concerns about all BMWs. People laud the GS but I know enough people who’ve had problems with them. This video is refreshingly honest, I do get tired of the ‘celebrity’ motovloggers who ride a bike once, proclaim it’s amazing and never say a bad word about any brand they review. Great work.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you, Graham :) I agree that there's too much 'advertising' on KZbin, which is why I try to be as objective as I can :)

[@BBFazer]

@@theboxingbiker I have had Yamaha's for 37 years now and only once had an engine problem, that I had not noted before the dealer already fixed it. No other issues whatsoever. They are super reliable

[@jeremycox8261]

I’m glad you made many of the observations you did on this bike particularly in relation to manufacturing, reliability and service standards as it equates to value. It’s important for people to understand that there is not an exponential increase in enjoyment when one pays more. In fact with motorcycles it would seem as though there is more joy in owning something simple and engaging in the simple pleasure of riding.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Exactly, Jeremy. It's a law of diminishing returns. I was considering the Triumph Speed Twin, but the saw the Trident and wondered how the ST could be worth twice the price. Once bitten, twice shy, eh? Hopefully the Trident demonstrator should be here next week :)

[@misterchuck6866]

@@RocketMan_Moto might even be negative returns. exclusivity means much less accessories and parts. less knowledge base, and more time with the bike at the dealer to fix questionable features like auto cornering headlights.

[@dvdh4937]

Unfortunately you had a bas experience with the dealer but that changes nothing on the bikes quality, options or any other gadget you have chosen. I don't like the 850 or 900 because of theyre 270 degrees crancshaft. I dont like any bike with 270 crancs. Anyhow al modern bikes these days are loaded with things you don't need but like you people are buying it. Useful gadget cornering ABS (fortunately) you did´nt need to use it. I'm a BMW rider that after horror stories that happened to me with two new CRF1100L hondas in a row... i love the service at my local dealer. Informatif, friendly, always prepared to find a solution. Anyhow I hope you find the bike your gonna be happy with. Remember these days there al computers on wheels 😊

[@Win7ermu7e]

@@dvdh4937 Really? 270 degree is without question the best version of an inline twin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2q9d413d8Z_mMk

[@Caledonian1956]

Very interesting ,informative and insightful. I have only owned one BMW and that was an R1000 way back in 1979. The strange thing is I had multiple issues with that bike which BMW in the UK were reluctant to resolve. I kept it for a year but traded it on a Z1000 after the charging system failed . 41 years later I still own the Z1000. Keep posting videos please they are very good.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you, Dave. Wow, 41 years with the same bike. I'm impressed!

[@alanrix5344]

Yes I had a very bad experience with a brand new k1600 bmw here in Australia .To cut a long story short will never buy a bmw bike again .Have gone back to a Honda and once again have a smile on my face

[@brianvogt8125]

@@RocketMan_Moto - This will seem a bit funny in the light of Dave's comment, but I bought a new (old stock) 1977 R100/7 in Feb. 1979, and I still use it 43 years later. It's had a few problems, but nothing more than was typical of 1977 motorcycles in general. I don't plan to update.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

There are two serious problems that should prevent anybody from purchasing a BMW motorcycle. One, they break a lot. Too, the dealer network is full of crooks who overcharge you, give you bad service, and rip you off whenever they can. This is the same issue that is killing the Harley-Davidson brand. The officers of the company are completely oblivious to this and continue to shoot themselves in both feet.

[@r12rtpilot]

345,000 miles on BMW motos with absolutely no service issues. And yes, they are too expensive!

[@manfredhettenkofer282]

Thanks for the honest review. For about 8 months I'm the owner of a 900XR and agree with some of your comments but also believe it is of interest to others who are deciding on a new motorcycle to provide a counter perspective. I'm very happy so far with this bike, same color, and specs as yours. What I like is that it has the latest state of the art safety features, even though I try to avoid using them :-). I also believe it is a very easy bike to ride and yes, its motor might not be as lively as engines in other bikes, the nice thing is that it develops its power very smoothly along the entire rev-range and that is a good thing in my opinion. A more nervous bike would be harder to control even though it would excite more. I ride mostly on long tours and hence, I like the cultivated aspect of it and the convenience features of keyless start and the cruise control. The big TFT display might not matter too much while driving but the ease of use when changing settings in the menu matters a lot. I love the display and would not want to miss it. I made some select changes with aftermarket parts to improve looks, sound, and usability for me. Nothing is perfect but compared to other bikes of the Sports Tourer category I'm still convinced this is an excellent choice.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your input. I'm glad you're happy with your bike :)

[@vknair6652]

I have watched hundreds of motorcycle reviews on KZbin but never really commented on any. However, your unbiased and balanced opinions made me type these: well done! Excellent points presented in a simple fashion. You got a subscriber in me. Cheers!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@louscannon6265]

I second that opinion. Clear, considered appraisal and criticism, always objective and well presented. A wonderful pace of delivery, too - concise and easily understood. I have watched so many channels that are repetitive and fail to convey the point in question, many I stop after 30 or 40 seconds. Have watched all of yours from start to finish - very professional, you have another new subscriber. Wonderful to see you enjoying life in Portugal too.

[@morley3810]

This is the first video I have watched on your channel. I really appreciated the way you put your feelings about the bike into words. I look forward to watching more of your videos.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you :) I will hopefully be getting my hands on the new Triumph Trident in a few days, so stay tuned for that review :)

[@kevinconway1232]

Thanks for that RM, I greatly value your honest insight. I currently ride a Honda NC750X but am considering an upgrade to the F900XR. I'll continue pondering and look forward to seeing your next ride. a Triumph I suspect :-) Good to see you posting again.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Kevin. The F900XR is probably an upgrade from the NC750X, but perhaps not by as much as you think. The Trident is tempting me... :)

[@sv7017]

I had both bikes and it is clearly an update

[@zsguerreiro]

Well I got my F900XR yesterday, I've put in 300km since and I have to say it does feel premium to me..I'm coming from a Tiger 800XRT(2019) and this bike is without a doubt a lot better. Better handling, more forgiving, doesn't need to be high revved all the time and has plenty of power, the BMW TFT and Connected app are also very very good. To me the negatives are 1- wind protection, I'm small 1.72m and the amount of wind I get on the motorway is nuts, getting a new screen(ordered the MRA Vario) to try to fix that and 2- the seat, the standard seat is not comfortable at all, 1h in and my butt is screaming for help but as these are still early days I'll wait a couple of weeks to see if it gets better. To each their own but so far I really like how the bike feels. Regarding the dealers, well I can't comment on BMWs yet but had my share of issues with Triumph so I guess its just luck. Anyway stay safe and since you've moved to the Algarve I might see you on the road.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Jose. It's great that you're pleased with your F900XR. I agree the seat is not the best. I tried fitting the comfort seat, but it was no better and I sent it back. Ride safe :)

[@battsonbikes1919]

The seat doesnt get any better, If you want to keep the bike for long journeys you going to have to change it.

[@sirikulsomsuwan]

Your correct when you say it’s how you feel on riding a motorcycle...I’d imagine you’d have been happier with a Yamaha Tracer 900. Ride safe

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I discounted the Tracer when I saw the 'sexy new' BMW, but I was wrong. Lesson learnt ;)

[@alexmocanu3503]

@@RocketMan_Moto The riding position on the Tracer is slightly different, you may not enjoy it. Engine is great but throttle is very twitchy. Knows only on and off... so a remapping is needed to fix the issue. My personal two cents...

[@robdix4331]

Have heard the same

[@johngagne986]

Thank you for pointing out your follow-up. It is much appreciated and, of course, I would have hoped that 6 months later you would still have been excited and happy with your purchase. Sorry that was not the case but given your experiences, including the allowance for the caveats of time and place and potential run of luck, I too expect a more premium experience when spending the money for what I consider to be quality german machines (my bike is BMW and my vehicles are Mercedes all of which come with a price tag and an expectation I have when turning the key in the ignition). I completely understand your reaction. Once again your careful documentation and thoughtful insights are helping me to think clearly about my next purchase and I sincerely appreciate that.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Glad it was of use to you, John. I don't want to put people off unnecessarily, but the experience I had with this bike was very disappointing given the brand's premium reputation.

[@davidkondret6185]

Enjoy your videos. Smooth, thoughtful and deliberate delivery of commentary makes for very easy viewing. Don't understand the comment about not using the cornering ABS. Didn't think it was something that could be turned off. Nice to have working in the background.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, David. What I meant re. the ABS was that, as I ride gently enough not to need it, I could really have done without it. But I agree it's nice knowing I have it just in case...

[@snap-happy]

I love the look of the F900R and spent hours configuring my ideal bike, and pored over every KZbin video. However, a short ride on a demo bike quickly shattered my dreams. Within minutes, my fingers tingled with the vibrations fed through the handlebars and I was also horrified at the metallic noises the engine makes. It was a wet day in Scotland and the demo bike had road filth all over it - which isn’t really surprising given how small the mudguards are. In the end I decided to stick with my trusty NC750X; however, like you, the new Triumph Trident is currently looking very appealing. I look forward to your findings.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Like you perhaps, I was taken in by the looks (and price without options), but in reality, it was a let-down. Oh well, I like changing bikes fortunately, lol. I'm hoping the Trident demonstrator will be here in the Algarve next week, so stay tuned for the review :)

[@davea9946]

Did you buy the Trident? I was considering one but was put off by the hot start and engine cutout issues some owners are having.

[@davea9946]

(Cold start)

[@oulupulu]

I am lucky enough to be employed working on automotive instrument clusters, and watching the clear footage of the IC here is a treat. But OUCH! The speedo skips numbers when you accelerate or decelerate, instead of elegantly counting up and down. You were absolutely right to sell the bike.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

It was beautiful, but unnecessarily complicated for my needs :)

[@polomichel8601]

Welcome back Rocket Man ! I am really delighted to see (and hear as you know) your insightful videos and feelings about the bikes. Wish you all the best for 2021 ! I was wondering about trying a speedtriple (A2 compliant as I got the license 1 year ago only) as there is so much positive consensus about the brand and the products and although your positive comment about the brand may have seemed British-oriented as I could be with a French one (ohhh there is no French brand for motorbikes actually) I trust your experience and I am looking forward to your next testing of the new model. I must admit I am more oriented towards a trail-like motorbike like a tracer 700 (the one I own and appreciate) or a CB 500X I began with and quickly changed for the Tracer but I am wondering about a cafe racer style like the speedtriple that seems to rise so much enthusiasm and satisfaction. Keep safe and enjoy the ride ! What’s your new bike by the way ?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Merci, Michel. I used to have a Street Triple, but sold it because it was just too mental (I'm getting old). Il y a toujours Mash, non? Une belle petite 125 ;)

[@applecorp]

FYI - Dynamic Pro mode is the same as Dynamic mode in terms of how the throttle responds, hence why you felt it was no different to other ride modes. It's essentially just a custom user mode that lets you alter the level of traction control and ABS interference.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

True👍

[@SouthWest-jj8yu]

I’ve been biking for over 40 years and most of my history in biking was with the big Japanese brands. About 8 years ago I bought my first BMW and have had several since then. My local dealer is exceptional and I’ve no plans to change but I don’t think that’s all down to BMW as everyone’s experience is different just think I was lucky to have a very good dealer on the doorstep.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

A good dealer is essential. You lucked out :)

[@ministrant4220]

Your reviews are very informative, especially after you sell the bike 😀

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Lol, yeah maybe I'm a bit less 'in love' and more objective when I sell them :)

[@newbierider3553]

Glad you' re back mate!!! Nice review as always! Cheers!!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Newbie :)

[@pistolpete6321]

Thanks for doing this video, interesting. Can’t wait for your impressions of the Trident!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Pete. Hopefully the Trident will be here next week :)

[@lucimoto2922]

Very good video All reviews are about specifications and not about service issues and recalls. Japanese motorcycles may not be so lovely, but at least you can enjoy them without any problems.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

True enough.

[@neok4530]

Thanks for sharing RocketMan. 👍 I am a VStrom rider for a while and couple of days ago had a chance to try F900XR. Also, if you say that heat from engine in traffic bothers you, I would frankly say that it was wrong man for the bike, not the other way around. I My next bike is hopefully F900XR.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your comment, Neo. Heat wasn't the main issue. It was just the fact that I found the engine very lacklustre, which made the whole bike a little dull to ride. I hope you enjoy yours, though :)

[@neok4530]

@@RocketMan_Moto - absolutely brother, preferences are like tastes, not something should be discussed beyond mentioning. I got your point after first viewing of your video. Mentioned heat cause heat means standing, my way of driving is "...always in motion..." 👼

[@jasonk7072]

Sad to hear you’ve not had a great experience. I found your videos extremely informative and useful when I was deciding to buy my late ‘20 XR. So far no issues, very much hoping it stays that way but I’m fortunate that I have an excellent dealer who can’t do enough to keep me happy (this isn’t my first BMW). You’re absolutely right that these noisy, expensive and extravagant machines should stir the soul as much as move the body, I hope you find it with your next bike. Looking forward to following the next chapter.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you, Jason. Glad to hear you're having a good experience with your F900XR. I quite like the idea of a roadster next, and the Triumph Trident has caught my eye. Hopefully the demonstrator should be here next week :)

[@sv7017]

Do you also have problems with neutral gear?

[@jasonk7072]

@@sv7017 I don’t, at least not yet. I only have 1,100 km on it at the moment and I tend to come down into neutral from second most of the time. I’m also pretty lucky in that once I’ve set off I don’t need to find neutral again until the bike is nice and warm. So far though everything seems to be working, my only gripe is the quality of bolts that BMW use, the heads seem to be made from mashed potato so the ones I’m undoing to fit accessories or maintenance are being replaced with proper ones.

[@icecycle4176]

Brilliant and fair review. An honest evaluation of your experience with the bike. While I love my 2007 R1200S and my 2010 GS, I am looking to replace the latter with something smaller and lighter, as I am 69 and am not as strong as I used to be. Your video is appreciated for providing honest information. I was particularly sympathetic to your observation about the display. When I am riding, what I want is simple and functional information: how fast am I going. Though I do appreciate the tire pressure readings, engine temperature, and other functional information when doing cross country trips. Reliability is vitally important on 8,000+ km trips!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback, Ice😊

[@amdaglas]

Love the scenery I should drive to portugal at least once in the future

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Beautiful country, but much of it is out of bounds at the moment, of course :(

[@illiyakuryakin3092]

Thank you for sharing your opinions of the XR. Your “Customer Service” at the BMW dealership was TERRIBLE. Fortunately mine in Barrington, Illinois has been good as it should be considering the expense.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Service in the US is generally on a different level to what we get in Europe, especially in the south

[@mindspinn311]

@@RocketMan_Moto There’s PLENTY of bad service in the US, even in Southern California.

[@brucearena]

I really appreciate your unbiased views on these machines and the fact that you don't give in neither to euphoria nor toxicity on the strengths and weaknesses. After almost two wears with a Suzuki Address 110 (very similar to Honda's Vision) I took the full A license and went for a used CB500X, I'm really happy with it but even me, a proper beginner, sometimes I feel the lack of power - for me that's the Achilles' heel, I believe you said somewhere a CB650X would've hit just the spot and I must say I agree. The fact that I'm a born and raised Lisbon guy made me appreciate your footage a bit more. Cheers and welcome to Portugal

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Obrigado, Sebastiao. The CB500X is a great first big bike :)

[@davgb7904]

Nicely presented and great - objective - content. Anyone with one will find it hard, as we all defend our choices (I don't have one btw). Honest detail of the marque that corresponds to my own experiences, and interesting that the car influenced you. I've ridden mostly BMW since '76 and owned/driven three cars since 78. The cars - '76 3.0si, '87 535i and '07 320 Tourer were all exceptional, although the quality changed noticeably over the years. Really solid engineering and functional comfort through to technology and plush comfort later. The bikes started with my '74 R90S boxer and a '79 R100RT. The 90S - a /6 series was the epitome of the BMW boxer marque for me. Undoubtedly the earlier bikes were of exceptional quality and engineering exemplifying the 'Rolls-Royce' status they commanded then, and the /5s delivered a modern machine compared to the more 'traditional' appearance. The /6 series began to differ - stuck on tank badges rather than the enamelled and screwed /5 badges. Part way through the /6 plastic indicators replaced the gorgeous aluminium housings. The /7 series saw further changes and so things progressed. Refined engineering, modernising, but poorer quality. Owners will argue, but when the engines reached the end of the airhead development and the next generation oilheads appeared, the bikes were technically superior, I believe - and experienced - far less reliable or easy to repair; bedecked with plastic everywhere, including plastic covered tanks which when revealed looked like a dustbin. My point - sorry, lockdown means waffling much more and time to do so - is that BMW now live on their reputation rather than uphold it, both on 4 wheels as much as 2. The cars are still great but there are many strong competitors now (on balance, my current VW is as good as the last BMW). Performance is no better than other marques. Cost of ownership is much higher and repairs can be an arm and a leg. Service has dropped over the years and your experience is not surprising. I stopped using my car main dealer regularly some years ago and went to a BMW specialist workshop - that was first rate and they cared far more (and cheaper). What was interesting was your comments on finish of the Triumphs and Hondas. The Japanese learned the lesson years ago and Honda finish is generally exceptional and been better than BMW for a long time. Triumph eventually learned likewise. The BMW bikes are no better, and in many areas worse than competitors. My 1150RT was rubbish. Thin chassis paint, engine lacquer like that turned into dry leaves flaking off the engine (the old airheads were rough cast, unlacquered and gorgeous, lasting even to this day) and lots of problems. I gave up my last BMW in 2018 and bought a Honda (looked at Triumphs and still would love a new twin - finish and ride are great) and I was stunned at the superior quality and service I received. Given Honda are regarded as one of the best, I nevertheless recently traded for a Kawasaki Z900RS and was even more blown away by the standard of finish and detail on that. As a machine I can imagine keeping this for many years. Brand loyalty, I did consider an F900XR instead, but drew some of your conclusions even before buying one - I'm glad I didn't. The latest machines are simply, imho, overpriced. I look forward to your Triumph reports.Thanks.

[@joshnnik]

I do agree with your sentiments regarding patreons, merchandise and reminders to subscribe. However, I do like my F900XR and prefer it to the Honda Africa Twin that I owned and the Tiger 900 GT PRO that I had ridden. It’s these differences in our individual likes and dislikes that means it’s good we should actually experience everything for ourselves and not base too much on anyone else’s opinions. Our tastes are as different as our physical builds and we are all the better for that.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Roger. Bikes are like women, I suppose - difficult to pin down exactly what you like (or not) about them. Fortunately, as you say, we're all different :)

[@kimbee2604]

@@RocketMan_Moto 😊 funny. 👍💃🏍️

[@joaoayala]

I have to say that it's quite rare on the internet opinions given in such a gentleman's like fashion. Kudos for you both. I wish there were more people like you making their comments on the internet.

[@Brian-ie2un]

Correct. Once your on the road and riding the bells and whistles do bugger all.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Indeed, Brian :)

[@ktkace]

Most useless trinket imho is an aftermarket ... Gear indicator.

[@PhilbyFavourites]

@@ktkace I had one of the first in the country back in the day fitted to my Suzuki GS750DB 1977 Model. A stunning UJM and oddly now in the classic world worth about a third or a quarter of the price of its GT750 two stroke cousin. However the digital gear indicator was an absolute boon in wet weather. It forever told me my five speed gearbox had six gears as the water got into the display and the bike went from fourth to sixth........

[@TheScrubTour]

Nice to see your back! Excited for more, and what bike is next! 💙

[@RocketMan_Moto]

See my latest video, posted today :)

[@mchevownr]

I always love your reviews and your voice is super calming! You swayed my decision about getting the f900r/XR almost the same bike. I am nervous about the power and glad you gave your honest opinions! Thanks 🙏

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you. I was taken in by the XR's good looks, but it was surprisingly boring to ride. That plus the issues I had with it pushed me to sell and I don't regret my decision :)

[@fxhirn]

Thanks for the update. As far I understand, your poor experience is a combination of several things 1) you probably had to much expectations regarding BMW's bikes, and their "options" 2) The very bad experience you've had with the service 3) You owned one of the very firsts bikes with some troubles. Many things have been fixed or improved since (even if it's still sometimes difficut to find the neutral when gearbox is cold) 4) It's possible this bike was finally not for you I'm enjoying my F900 Xr since 2 months. I love riding it. Very easy to handle. Linear power is a must for me, together with its screen and all safety "gadgets". Near to first service, I cannot tell you about its quality yet. My side, It worth its money. Different riding needs I assume. Anyway, enjoy your next bike !

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Spot on! I'm glad you like your F900XR, it just wasn't right for me :)

[@davo.m4623]

Couldn't have put it better myself !

[@Robrecht_van_Bethune]

I was wondering, after 2 years, do you still like the bike, and do you have any issues with the engine? I'm considering buying a 900 xr at the moment.

[@fxhirn]

@@Robrecht_van_Bethune oh my goodness, YES. It is still a wonderfull bike ! It always gives me a smile at each ride

[@Robrecht_van_Bethune]

@Fx Hirn Thank you for your response. I read a lot of bad comments on YT about the Chinese engine. But when I talk to owners like you on insta or YT, they all react positive... so there's no need to worry for me, probably, Thanks and enjoy your day !!

[@MC-Racing]

I Had a F900XR as a loaner when my S1000R was having maintenance done. Its not a bad bike, its just a very boring bike :-)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

My thoughts exactly. Not as special as it should be.

[@artmchugh5644]

I got my first BMW 3 months ago, a 2003 K1200gt only 4000 miles !!! BUT !!!! The more i rode it the more I realized that I didn't care for it !!! 7 days later I traded it in for a triumph tiger 1050 that I love !!!! To ride 😄😄😄😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺

[@scottelton5451]

Great video as usual. Please take us along on your next bike shopping adventure!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Scott, will do! I'm hoping the Trident demonstrator will be here in the Algarve next week, so stay tuned for the review :)

[@JHGOGOGO]

Very accurate review. I like that u mentioned the heat as well, i think many people skipped that portion. I vaguely rmb the seat being a little hard as well.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks :)

[@buraqmejker]

Kawasaki puts a neutral finder even in cheaper line of their machines. What it does is make sure that if you're stopped and on 1st, one pull of the gear lever will always put the tranmission in neutral. It's such a nice feature, I use it every day... And Suzuki bikes come equipped with low-rpm assist and one-tap starter... these are the features I find useful in the real world, unlike quickshifters and riding modes. But as long as people make purchase decisions based on marketing videos, brochures and paid reviews, the trend is not gonna stop and soon the world will be flooded with used, faulty bikes, which at the core are nothing but heavy and unexciting. That's why I think the engine performance, sound, and the ride quality will always be the most important factor when choosing your next motorcycle. This just reminded me why I ride a 19' Kawasaki Z1000SX :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Dominik. I was unaware of Kawasaki's neutral assist gizmo :)

[@XenonG]

Kawasaki's marketing slogan is "Good times riding", they know what they are doing.

[@ballerblocks]

Thank for this video. It validates a lot of my reservations about current motorcycle trends with technology overkill. TFT screens all the other add ons , I would rather see manufacturer make basic bikes and as standard and every other item a add on. ( Like triumphs new speed triple, comes withouth electronic suspension.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Exactly, Peter. I have learned a valuable lesson: we really don't need all this technology, but manufacturers love it, of course, because it gives them healthier profit margins :)

[@malcaithness9889]

Hi Peter, Feel the same. Keeping my 19 cb500x, won't ever sell, best ever do it all bike going. Buying a 21 gsxs750 today after now wanting to peel my eyelid's back on the paved pathways. Simple tech bike with Japanese pedigree. No brainer for me, can't do the crotch rocket lie down & pray on the distance journeys.Stay Safe & Smiling 😀

[@ballerblocks]

@@malcaithness9889 ha ha, funny eh, I got my cb500 because of rocket Man, and I don't regret it,(2018 version, because of 17 wheel.) I was considering the gsxs 750 recently, but was worried it would be too small, (6ft,1inch ) so I am now looking at a 2015 fz8 with 5000 miles on the clock. Because of it 1460mm wheel, as I can't find anything long enough that I can afford (😉🙂 BMW ) pls do let me know how the Suzuki feels. Thank you

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

If I lived in a nice dry climate like that it would have to be the Tiger 850 Sport, no 6-Axis IMU just basic ABS/Traction and manual suspension and a cracking engine. Good value too.

[@kimbee2604]

Indeed. I bought a triumph tiger 1050 2020 last week and some people complain about no quick shifter and the "old" dashboard. I don't care, it's the basic of motorcycle riding that I search for not the tft or quick shifter or... 😊😊 Greetings 🏍️💃

[@aaronharris5275]

Welcome back, always enjoy your intelligent sounding reviews. Really surprising news, almost as surprising as when you cancelled your Triumph Rocket bike. I'm sticking with my Hondas the 2010 cbf600 great build quality and 2018 Forza 300 economic great city handler.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Ah ha, I have been eyeing up the new Forza 350... ;-)

[@aaronharris5275]

@@RocketMan_Moto ah but the 300 is based on the tried and tested Sh300 engine. It will do 100k if looked after. Also more slightly economic so I'm happy to keep the 300cc.

[@LL-fy8qf]

Thanks for honest opinion. Please make us informed about what will be your next bike and what experiance will you have! Really apriciate it. Thanks

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your support. Hopefully the Trident demonstrator will be here next week . If it's any good, I could well be tempted :)

[@sagie5]

The f900 series is not a "true" BMW like the s1000r is. Many people say that

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree that many people do say that. Ride safe :)

[@TonyGarcia-qd5tq]

Yes nice scenery :) get a 2020-21 kawasaki z900rs-cafe instead :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks. Yes, I'm looking at a naked for my next bike :)

[@TonyGarcia-qd5tq]

@@RocketMan_Moto ..consider a Kawasaki z900 naked bike :)

[@davidbesant]

Very good suggestion.

[@unenthusiast]

I've got the Cafe but run it without the nose cone. Great bike. Previously had a Street Triple R too and can't help but think the Trident is going to be a bit of an anti-climax.

[@greyanaroth]

I must say, I've felt these same reservations with bmw Motorrad. Thanks for your candid story! Hope you get the motorcycle you deserve, and soon :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks :) I am quite tempted by the new Triumph Trident. Hopefully I will be getting my hands on one later this week. Stay tuned for my first impressions.

[@greyanaroth]

@@RocketMan_Moto well. You may want to ALSO check out the speed triple 1200rs. The trident might be a bit too tame for you, especially considering how you've come from a street triple in the past.

[@DanielJLopes]

Wow, incredible story! Thank you for sharing, I also had some bad experiences with some dealers in Portugal.... I used to ride 160Km to service my Honda Deauville - which I loved, but was really lacking in power - which was good for a first tour bike, and I had a dealer almost in walking distance. I have a R1250 RT now, pretty happy with it, but I no longer live in Portugal so cannot enjoy those fabulous roads (and some in Spain as well!) I had a somewhat bad experience at the first contact for the purchase, via e-mail, maybe because I dont spell perfect danish, but after that, resolved to do a phone call and from the sales to the shop service everything went extremely smooth as it shoudl be.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Always difficult buying and running a bike when language is an issue, as it is for you and me :)

[@Nordkapp65]

Thanks for this. Back this time last year I was interested in seeing how this bike worked out for you as it was in my realm of interest. I even visited BMW and got to sit on one but as has been pointed out by others it is more than just the bike, it is the dealership. Due to the pandemic I am looking between Kawasaki, Triumph and KTM, for two reasons. My dealer has all three, I am a one bike owner and the next bike is a treat for me, so I want a light exciting bike that feels special to me. Whether it will be the Trident 660, KTM 890 Duke or something from Kawasaki (not holding my breath) is unclear but your vlog reinforced my reason for not buying the F900xr and given it was so new. Will watch with interest what you choice. Thanks again

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your input. The Trident 660 demonstrator should be here next week, so stay tuned for a video on my first impressions :)

[@marcpacey]

Love the channel and content! I had a very similar ‘ couldn’t gel with it ‘ episode with a 2019 BMW 750GS. Liked the tech, but didn’t end up using it all that much. Also had some quality disappointments with the shift pro ( aka quick shift ) on mine kept locking up , requiring towing and becoming a regular at my local service centre. After deciding to move it on - I did replace it with a 5 year old BMW model that has significantly better build quality than the new one . Admittedly, I nearly went back to the Honda CB500XA ( that I had previously) but I do agree they are somewhat underpowered.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Sounds familiar: having criticised my old CB500X for its lack of power, I have found myself considering buying one again, just for its simplicity :)

[@laszlopapp81]

I don’t have any of these issues...luckily! Mine is a f900r, don’t have the heat issue as the R has less fairings, the Bluetooth can work 100% if you let your phone connect first and then switch on your helmet Bluetooth. The cornering light its amazing as i do ride in the night, the sound its “fixed” with an exhaust as i do with all of the bikes. After about 1000 miles 1st gear always clicks in, and the quick shifter gets better with use also its advisable to use it at higher engine speeds. The handling is very good also, and comes with a lot of small things that many other bikes don’t come as standard such as metal brake hose, steering damper. The cornering abs is something that you will not “feel” at work unless you go for it properly...if you do feel it working probably you are going to fast. Im not critical about your driving but you seem to do a nice slow, relaxing drive. I think the f900r/x is meant to be handled a bit rougher. That’s when it comes alive. I think you just had a bad dealer experience and that tainted everything.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Glad you're happy with your F900R and thanks for the comment :)

[@chrisreed3929]

Excellent and informative review; I will seriously consider your comments when looking for my next bike. I have always had excellent (albeit a little pricey) service from my BMW dealers here in UK. It makes the ownership experience that much better. Your experience definitely sounded below par.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Hope the video was of some help😊

[@pabouchard]

I tested the F900XR recently and I struggled, even joked about how hard it was to find the neutral thinking it was me.. Being still A2, I am going to go for a Tracer 7GT instead. I also shared your concern about the dynamic pro mode that just felt like more noise, more vibration but no real more power, and felt disappointed even if the road settings is ok to me..I also wanted to get the side luggage but the BMW "pack" strategy makes it a too pricey proposition.. Thank you for this video!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your comment. If you are fairly new to biking, then the Tracer 7 seems like a very good choice. I have tried the Ténéré with (more or less) the same engine and really liked it :)

[@David-xg6ws]

I really appreciate honest and straight-forward videos like yours. Too often, you watch a video and it sounds like the narrator is a paid representative for the brand. I have considered this bike and now, will not. I love many things about BMW bikes however....I bought a '19 1250GS and had nothing but problems. One was on a multi-day trip hundreds of miles from home. Luckily I found a BMW dealer close by but lost 24 hours waiting on the repair. The leaking brake calipers then took a couple of weeks waiting on a replacement during prime riding season. Apparently BMW is now replacing all the front Hayes BMW calipers with Brembo. My last bike was a Kawasaki- ZERO problems. I've also owned 4 Harleys. ZERO problems. BMW needs to get it together.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Can't beat a Japanese bike for reliability!

[@wrkings]

Great video rocket Man, I have Yamaha mt10 sp, really am luving it, hope Ur next bike and service experience is better,

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks :) I've heard a lot of good things about the MT10. Enjoy :)

[@markstrickland3012]

A very thought provoking video, not sure I would have been so quick to move on as my internal argument would be that whatever my initial expectations for the bike were, it would not be perfect for me, because it is mass produced and so will have compromises. Fair play for moving quickly though, it would have taken me many more months of being pistol whipped by a dealership who didn't realise that I am not the many but am the one. Looking forward to the Trumpet video, the ones I've seen so far seem to be too on point with Sales blurb, which makes me suspicious, Stay safe fella .

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Mark. I'm hoping the Trident demonstrator will be here in the Algarve next week, so stay tuned for the review :)

[@rogeriolima9974]

That Arrábida road is great, use to ride it with my GS500E, now I miss it. My Sprint 955I RS can do that so lightly... BMW needs to revue that after sale politics, and it’s not only with bikes. Nice video

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks. We have moved down to the Algarve now, but I miss that Arrabida road for sure :)

[@assessor1276]

I found this to be a perfectly reasonable review delivered in a clear, balanced and professional fashion. I have owned only one “modern” bike (a 2017 Suzuki SV650ABS) and while it ran perfectly well and was dead reliable, it was a pretty basic model and I found that I was enjoying my 1970s Yamaha XS650s more. So when a riding buddy wanted it, I sold it - somewhat regretfully I must say. I guess my key takeaways are that one either “gels” or connects with a motorcycle or one does not; and that all the fancy tech really doesn’t make much of a difference - to me at least (the old Yamahas certainly have none or it).

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you :)

[@FxRiderST]

The fob start is priceless. How many times you had your gloves on realizing that the key is somewhere in the pocket. :) I also had a 330i in 2006. Loved it so much that I bought a335i after it. These are fun machines. Never had a BMW bikes except a rental f750 in Europe. Was too agricultural for me :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yep, I still love BMW cars. Not so sure about their bikes, though :)

[@bsalvis]

I like the fob for the bike for the same reasons, until I forget to close the garage door and have to dig in my pocket for the little remote to close it (usually realized AFTER putting gloves on) :)

[@Jackson53ie]

Love the review, im thinking of getting one , im between tracer900 and tiger900 and this has been a great help.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks. Tbh, I would get either the Tiger or the Tracer over the BMW without hesitation.

[@Milkjon]

Thanks for the video. I will insert this information, where applicable, into the equation of my next bike, was planning to get F900R. We'll see how it pans out. More Triumph Trident information will be appreciated :)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks. Hopefully the Trident will be here next week :)

[@ricardobaratamartins3915]

Thanks for doing this video, Thanks very much for share your honest opinion, and keep save and curves

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Ricardo :)

[@RuledByMars]

I've ridden it and didn't love it either. I DO LOVE my 2017 f700GS though!! I think the new R1250RS will be next, possibly. I appreciate your videos, sir.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you! The RS looks a fabulous bike :)

[@acherouvis]

Rocket man, like you I went from the F900XR to a Triumph Speed Twin. The Speed Twin is a artwork in motion.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Certainly is. Still loving it after nearly 2 years😊

[@johnroll513]

I had opportunity to test F 800 ST 2011 I have to admit it was nice experience obviously it was 1h + ride mostly in London but as for engine as you mentioned the heat giving off by engine was enormous and it was not summer it was late autumn temperature 10-15 degrees but I believe there are people out there who do not mind whatever others say about bike I would say if you like it buy it and enjoy just follow your instinct

[@PCERules]

Interesting video, I’ve had as a UK prisoner (would live to leave but work and Covid say no) massive issues with every Kawasaki I’ve owned. I’m on my fifth BMW, all sold with big mileage and I know other people who’ve had similar issues randomly with one manufacturer or other. Still main thing is you get what makes you happy!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree it's the luck of the draw, especially with modern day electronics. I think I'll go 'cheap & cheerful' next time, though :)

[@andybiker8365]

Great video, nicely put together thanks RocketMan. Quite a contrast to your initial video praising the same machine. I bought an F900 in December 2020 and I really like it. It's not perfect, but I'm yet to find a bike that is. I haven't experienced any of the issues you had with yours. I commute on mine and have done several thousand miles already and it is close to perfect. I traded in a NC750 with DCT (gear changes far superior to a quickshifter) and a VFR 800, acceleration far superior to the F900 and it put a smile on my face every time I rode it. But I wouldn't change back because the F900 is the compromise bike for me that does what the NC did well enough but with more power and does what the VFR did well enough but is easier to ride day to day for commuting (with a pillion too). It is more expensive though, although my Honda local dealer and independent BMW guy wanted pretty much the same price to service it as the BMW Motorrad dealer. It is normal that when someone shells out money for a purchase that they find ways to support the purchase, it's called confirmatory bias or 'man maths' as my wife calls it. The same is true when they fall out of love with a purchase, they look for reasons to justify a change, confirmatory bias again. Your two videos give the whole story which is great, so keep up the good work!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Andy. I think the biggest issue I had with my F900 - apart from the shoddy dealer service - was the price. I loaded mine up with too many options, and I felt I wasn't getting value for money. My fault, I suppose. Ride safe :)

[@GerhardCombrink]

This is all part of the enjoyment of your motorcycle journey, as little as that might seem to be the case. Finding that perfect bike is very much an expensive mission and can’t really be done by relying on another’s opinion since we’re all different. Enjoy the journey!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

You’re quite correct, well said😊

[@jarikivimaki8686]

Thank you very much for the honest video about the BMW F 900 XR. I myself also like its appearance, but it is the problems with the neutral gear and the concerns of others regarding maintenance and repair that make me doubt about replacing the current bike, which works flawlessly.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Glad it helped👍😊

[@SantaridesaKTM]

I used to be a Honda Technician (cars-uk) and I'll never forget when they started making some of the models in the uk (to put it kindly "there were issues") maybe BMW are having issues with their Indian counterparts. Great Video.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

You may well be right. Perhaps we're reaching the limits of all this global outsourcing.

[@prathaps848]

I dont think the 900s are made by Indian counterpart. TVS (Indian counterpart?) makes the 310s.

[@paulbrook2459]

Lesson learnt ! Back to basics biking 👍 buying and dreaming of the next bike is nice , 👍great video by the way .

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Exactly. Thanks, Paul :)

[@R15YZF]

Very helpful review! This bike looked perfect for me on paper but is a huge commitment for me, which now also looks risky. Have you tried another cb500x? I clocked 7k kilometres on one in Thailand and found it absolutely butter smooth.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Let's put it this way: I would much rather buy another CB500X than another F900XR :)

[@johnygsx-s7507]

Always nice to see a review that point out the things that are not good on a bike. Now the problem with BMW is that they are putting everything on the S1000RR, M1000RR, and the GS1250, and that shows on the other bikes. Atleast that's my humble opinion on it. I really enjoyed the honest review. New sub here 🙂

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Johny. I try to make videos that I myself would find useful. I agree with you about the different BMW models - a bit hit & miss at the moment.

[@eliotsalandybrown]

I enjoyed your considered thoughts clearly presented. Thanks!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Eliot :)

[@ericward5595]

Thank you! You're video is better than a test ride. I, too, have experienced less than optimal service from my local BMW dealer. BUT! I have also noticed a marked decrease in knowledge and commitment to service at almost all Harley Davidson dealerships, as well. Motorcycle shops, run by real motorcyclists, seem to be a thing of the past. It's sad.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you, Eric. I agree about the know-how in modern dealerships; you tend to find salesmen, rather than bikers. A bit like car dealerships, I suppose... Ride safe :)

[@bmc8989]

Refreshing to see an honest review. Good points about the tft and other tech, which is always praised by other reviewers....but do they really add to the average riders experience.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Glad you liked the format, Bryan. I have a very basic clock on my Triumph Trident, but don't miss the BMW's TFT at all :)

[@Marco-cl9pb]

Thank you for your honest review/experience

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you, Marco :)

[@filippoamodeo995]

very useful. I have a Ducati Multistrada 950S MY19 and I am thinking to change it for a F900XR. It's pretty useful to know about your experience. This will not prevent me to buy the F900 XR in case I would opt for this bike, but it will of course helps to know what to care about during the test ride I'll have. Thanks man.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

You're welcome. Glad you found it useful :)

[@brianlowry2274]

Your initial review on this bike made me very interested in buying one.. some turn around now in your thoughts😀. I may go to plan B triumph tiger 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The Tiger, especially the new 850 would be on my shortlist, although I fancy a naked this time around. I'm hoping the Trident demonstrator will be here in the Algarve next week, so stay tuned for the review :)

[@peterquigley6911]

@@RocketMan_Moto I think BMW's lack the engagement of a Triumph or Ducati....I own both of those brands and have several BMW's over the years. The BMW's always did the mission but didn't hit the passion. Nevertheless, I am going to by the same bike you sold because I need a bike with those specs in another place I visit often. Plus it's offered at only for $3,500 less than the new Tiger 900 GT. I love 800/900 Tigers and have a Rally now that I love in all kinds of roles, but they cost a lot more for some reason. Thanks for your systematic and open discussion.

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

I have a Tiger 1200 and it has every six axis gadget and gizmo going, electric everything etc. It is a thoroughly competent machine and it will eat miles in fantastic comfort, it will probably be with me for a good while yet. But it is extremely satisfying to ride my simple, naked, air-cooled 2018 CB1100, it has ABS and that is it. I hope you enjoy the Trident if it works out for you, looking forward to the test ride vid..

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Terry. The Triumph Trident has caught my eye. Hopefully the demonstrator should be here next week :)

[@mfuchs2004]

Thanks for the superb review. I have many friends who try to sell me on the latest Beemer models. For the most part, they're fan boys and absolutely rave about their bikes despite the fact that we often have to skip rides because theirs is in the shop - "it's not broken! It's just in for service! You have to expect service to be more frequent and expensive on finely tuned machines." When we ride, they make socially appropriate kind comments about my bikes, despite the sympathetic look in their eyes as if I've just told them my cat was hit by a car. I'll keep my lower quality Kawasakis. They're nowhere near as awesome according to my fan boy friends, but I paid less than half and neither bike has had a single shop day since they left the crates. Zero tech on my Versys, so I just have to use old fashioned riding skills to keep up. It's working fine so far. Best yet, my Kawasakis don't sound like jig saws going down the road.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback

[@auscurrymaster]

Great description of the issues and experiences. Am I to understand that you now have a street trip' or was that a previous bike? I sold my 1250GS through excess weight and "lack of bonding" and have been delighted with its replacement: a Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I did have a Street Triple, but sold it. I'm keen to see the new Trident as on paper this looks like a less mental version of the ST, which is what I fancy this time around :)

[@andyc269]

Thank you for your honesty and thank you for posting this video. I currently have a 2019 Street Triple R and was considering the F900 XR as a move towards touring more with the BMW but for now, I think I will buy some Kriega luggage and make do before I take any action.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback, Andy. I had a 2017 Street Triple RS and can tell you that the F900XR would be a massive downgrade in terms of power and sportiness. You may be ok with that, of course, but the BMW is a lot less fun & exciting to ride than it looks :)

[@BlazinBlades]

Thank you 🙏 Indeed too many owners are having a similar experience to yours. I think that is why BMW owner satisfaction surveys are as low as they are.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

You're welcome. It will certainly be the last BMW I buy for a while.

[@BlazinBlades]

@@RocketMan_Moto I own a 2020 Z900 and for some “Adventuring” just got myself the Versys X 300. Last week the Z had some difficulties starting up after sitting covered for a week during some of the hardest rains we had here in Israel this year. 8500 km and 1 year of ownership that’s the only issue I’m a happy camper 🏕 🍻🍻

[@benj5386]

Totally agree with your comment about the display. In a similar vein, I don't understand the excitement about digital dash in a car where its normally replicating analogue clocks. For the most part, all you do is glance at the speed or fuel gauge and that really doesn't need flashy graphics.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed. I like the idea of having the satnav map right in front of you in a car, but 3D animated fuel gauges? Don't think so.. :)

[@simeruk]

This is a great video, with plenty of pointers. I own cb500x 2019 model from new myself and am wondering if you were upgrading or CB is still around? Looking to upgrade it as its power after covering 10k km and effectively learning riding from scratch is not enough any more (you could say I outgrown it?). Thanks.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

To be honest, I would stick with the Honda. OK, so it lacks a bit of power, but imho the F900XR is not worth the extra money. I sometimes regret selling the CB, but I'm glad I got rid of the BMW :)

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

@@RocketMan_MotoBest answer I’ve heard 👏🤣 I’ve been riding sense this 60’s and still going 😅From Honda 50cc to my MT-10sp 🥳 But down sizing because of traffic here in the 🇵🇭 It’s hard to find that in between because 🇵🇭 doesn’t have to options of motorcycles that other countries have 😢

[@tjs201971]

Thank you for this review! It is always good from a rider point of view! Ride safe

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks😊

[@andymcm6902]

Good video. It sounds like your Honda Vision has been your best bike yet :) Cheers

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Haha, yes the Vision scooter is fabulous. We've had it nearly 3 years, which is also a record.

[@kevinmobile]

Hi RM, an interesting and honest review. And a large set of comments below though I couldn't help noticing the number of 900XR owners could be counted on the fingers of one hand. I've had a 1200RT for 3 years but like you bought the XR when it came out and now have done 12 months and some 8,000 miles. It has been both flawless (well ok short mudguards spray mud everywhere), exciting and hovers between a runaround and a medium journey touring bike when the thought of manoeuvring the RT around the garage seems too much of a pain. But I love that bike too so perhaps I'm easily pleased? You have to feel good about a bike of course but you've hit the nail on the head about the importance of a friendly and reliable dealer network and I think BMW scores over others with their reputation in the UK at least of excellent service and a no-quibble 3 year warranty and 3 year European breakdown insurance. The latter was used once in anger after a tyre puncture and the response and attention was second to none. Perhaps as others have hinted, bikes are like our partners - best not judged by the cover. Or too quickly!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Kevin. Glad you like your F900XR. I'm looking forward to the new Triumph Trident. Hopefully, the demonstrator will be available next week :)

[@Nanayaah1]

Nice video with good honest content. I have a BMW R1250R Which I love. I rode the F900XR when my BMW was in for service. I can totally relate to your experience. While my R1250R feels special the F900XR left me totally unimpressed and I would choose my friends yamaha tracer 900 anyday if I wanted that type of bike. The seat was especially cruel to the point that when I returned it I had to ride with a pillow on top of the seat. Never experienced that on any other bike.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, the F900XR experience was underwhelming. I'm pleased with my new Trident, though. Ride safe :)

[@veljkovic92]

It just seems it's not a bike for you at all. Different bikes for different persons, like you said. Very nice speech that made my focus full on video. 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Stephan. Stay tuned for the test of the Triumph Trident, hopefully next week :)

[@ridingdreamer]

I follow your videos and this was a good insight. I initially planned an F850GS or 900XR but now booked the S1000XR M Sport full blown with all packs. From what I know, BWMs are slightly better with their top of the line bikes (1250GS, S1000XR etc) than their middle tier line (900/850 etc). Also with top of the line ones there are more configurable options (like low susp, many diff seats, center stand with all config, better suspension, better engines and much better transmission and quick shifter etc). In case of BMW the top line also keeps their value more (may be because most people are looking for those with BMW). I know there are millions who are happy with 800/850/900 etc but for me this is my first BMW and if you are willing to spend money, in terms of BMW, that is the better way to go. Waiting for the bike to come.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The S1000 is a much better bike than the 900XR👍

[@ridingdreamer]

Got my bike - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH3caZejj9Oljbc

[@ridewherever]

If it makes you feel any better. I love when people are brutally honest about anything they have experience in. Others do want the good the bad the ugly. It does help.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Jool :)

[@morganmessina]

Sorry to hear so many issues with your XR. I was thinking about it too and agree with most of your opinions. Are you going to test ride the new Speedy when it comes out?!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I would love the new Speed Triple, but it's too expensive for me, unfortunately :(

[@FrogonWheels]

All the luck on the T! Cheers

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Sergio. I'm hoping to get some news on the Trident demonstrator today, so fingers crossed :)

[@user-jm7uv8mn9u]

Thanks for the honest review. It’s not just about buying the bike, it’s also about living with it and if it suits you, your needs and makes for a happy experience. Good to be reminded that big premium brands asking premium prices does not always equate to a happy experience for everyone.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your input :)

[@flashashler8370]

Thank You for your assessment, I had a 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 and wish that I had never sold it after putting 20,000 miles on it, but I am in the market again and considered The BMW F900XR, but after this Video, I will definitely go with the 2020 model Yamaha 900 GT and I think that this bike would suit you as well. The performance of the the cross plane triple gives you the fun factor that it sounds like you were missing with the BMW. I sound like a Yamaha dealer, but I have no affiliation, just have always been loyal to the brand. I commuted to work 80 miles round trip and it handled it great, but in 90 plus degree weather in stop and go traffic when the fan would kick in, it would push some hot air up from the front of the tank right into your face, but steadily moving, this was not an issue. Another weakness was it's high speed stability, which I hear has been sorted out by a longer swing arm on the 2016 and up models. You should definitely check one out.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I would definitely take a Tracer 9GT over the XR after the experience I had. I was taken in by the bike's good looks and tech, but the ownership experience was very underwhelming.

[@emperorkhan9941]

RocketMan, love your review. Was thinking of an F900XR. Not so interested anymore. I've had the same thoughts as you. That BMW are "premium" bikes might just be a sale tactic? Love how calm and informative your observations and explanations are. Keep it up. Thanks for sharing.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks :) I was drawn in by the F900's looks, but the ownership experience was very disappointing. Lesson learned!

[@tomnielsen5948]

Great honest and balanced reviews. Rocketman - Your videos and storytelling is to good not to be bcked up by a Gopros 7 series or later. - I am here referring to lack of video stabilization...just a suggestion. Great work. We are moving to portugal too from the US, so nice when you give locations in and your descriptions.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Tom. I'm too tight to buy a GoPro, but I get what you're saying about image stabilisation :) Which part of Portugal are you coming to?

[@tomnielsen5948]

@@RocketMan_Moto not decided yet - looking at the west coast, either south or north of Lissabon, or south coast of Algarve. Iam watching your vids on a 70inch, so every shake is times 4 ! Consider a used gopro 7 - it will make a huge difference ! Check out my " flying " channel Arizona Sky surfing, to see gopro 7 at 90mph on a wingtip ( this used to be impossible due to shake) cheers from Arizona

[@RocketMan_Moto]

We lived in Cascais for 2 years before moving down here to the Algarve. No regrets, Lisbon is very expensive and crowded. I really should look at getting a GoPro, especially as I can now apparently control it from the Trident’s handlebars👍

[@tonydenial1485]

Hello Bud, I totally get this, I had a similar experience in '23, I bought a new titanium coloured Gold wing B which is the one without the sofa for the numerous reasons, after years of riding alone on my Yam XJ street cafe, I was looking to find a group or 2 to ride with, now back in the early '90s I rode several versions of the VFR then graduated to suzuki SRADs and K1s after many a td I'd given all that up 14 years ago so I bought the dct Wing, what happened was it proved to be very thirsty as I was caning it while bored on the motorway, I was trying to keep up with adventure bikes in corners- impossible!, Harley clubs resented me as it was an Asian bike, and on long solo runs I had aches and pains as the seat wasn't that comfortable so I got rid after 4 months, just before I'd bought a PCX125 and this proved the more you ride a bike the more you love it or hate it, the PCX is staying, Ive just bought an Yam XSR900 '23 and I'm yet to be convinced its as good a bike as my cafe XJ600.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Scooters are great. We use our ADV350 every day👍😊