RockShox ZEB | Everything You Need to Know

[@TheLostCo]

What are your thoughts on these now thicc 38mm stanchion forks? (we love 'em 🙂)

[@benasquith26]

Colby Murphy I think manitou got there first

[@chrismorris9396]

The Lost Co. could this mean that there could be an update to the boxxer with bigger stantions

[@NatNetNitNotNut]

@Colby Murphy rst's stitch had em since 2 years ago lol

[@ieatslag5947]

Chris Morris they kinda should, my boxxer stanchions look small af next to some fox 49s lol but I make it work

[@kaloyan_mitev0651]

I don’t know I think I will stick with the 2020 lyric ultimate because I want a lighter fork👌👍🏼

[@travelthenarrowtrail8660]

ME: I just got the Lyrik Ultimate in a 170mm and thought, they better not drop a 37 or 38mm to compete with Fox 38. Rockshox: Hold my coffee...

[@samuelparamor3726]

It was spotted a few months ago

[@CCWclassic]

KZbin mountain biker poseur alert 📢

[@riptheguys3635]

I prefer the lyrik so u have been approved by me

[@simonsaldana9024]

More like hold my kombucha

[@TheGameOfBIKE]

Calling it totem and continuing the legacy would have been sick too

[@mrvwbug4423]

Well, once Sam Hill decides he wants a 200mm travel 40mm stanchion single crown fork I'm sure it will materialize. This is both an answer to the Fox 38, and the EWS arms race to keep Hill or Nicholai on top (they both run RS suspension).

[@tylermccomb1925]

Someone owns the rights to the name 'Totem' now so unless RS decided to pay royalties for it, itll never happen

[@oxbi24]

but price x2

[@deankruse2891]

@@mrvwbug4423 this came out right after the 38, its not like they saw the 38 and quickly scrapped this fork together.

[@bradenbackes9272]

I don’t know why I’m watching this, I’m broke

[@noobsinthewoods5194]

Soon in debt

[@MattPayne1]

Yeah, overall all happy with my fork, but sort of want this.

[@howlingbeats2544]

Neither do I, already have a Lyrik Ultimate

[@tweaker_on_a_bike9809]

sell your body

[@bradenbackes9272]

@@tweaker_on_a_bike9809 good idea

[@MrNickHanson]

“After popping a Zeb, I immediately noticed an increase in stiffness.” Hahaha

[@theferociousmuncher1771]

r/hmmmmmmmmm

[@TheMichaeldalton]

"my front end ploughed straight through holes"

[@elliotlandry7409]

I don't need it , I don't need it , I don't need it , add to cart

[@yakbiker75]

Lol

[@motogp1gprix1]

Truth!

[@freendeed8410]

Yeb

[@xylerkajiyama7544]

“Ah ya know maybe one day I will *better safe than sorry* ”

[@elliotlandry7409]

@@xylerkajiyama7544 got a mezzer pro instead 😅

[@rikk989]

Hey just to let you know I search your channel before all others. The accuracy, honesty, and feedback in your reviews is much appreciated. I will be buying this as I am 232 lbs fully geared and going thru my fork travel like Yogi bear and a sandwich (fast and hard).

[@adamf.8564]

The 190mm is sick! That alone is a selling point for me, im 240 lbs so I am sold:)! Thank you for the great review. I still love my 160mm FOX 36:)))!

[@shanecurnyn4612]

I’m 230lbs and my 1 week old fox 38 has already got the dreaded creak/crack coming from the CSU. I’d go ZEB over 38 10/10

[@balintgyulay425]

@@shanecurnyn4612 are you serious ? I want to by a 38 but i m not sure now. I HAVE NOW A 36 170 MM 29 er with rc2 damper.

[@BushmanCanuck]

You must have to run a lot of spacers. I'm 220 and bottoming on mild drops...22% sag full low speed. It is a 54lb Ebike though...hoping the tokens help.

[@urmomscivic6011]

I have a yari Rc 170mm right now, and I might just replace it with one of these🤔

[@mrvwbug4423]

Get the Charger 2.1 upgrade kit for your Yari, and voila you have a Lyrik Ultimate in everything but name.

[@urmomscivic6011]

mrvwbug44 I actually really like the simplicity of the stock damper. Don’t have to worry about being a click off when it’s all the way open or closed. That’s why I’m interested in the zeb select. Before that I was looking at a Marzocchi z1

[@policies8534]

Get a FOX

[@karl_käse2610]

Was waiting for rockshox finally releasing that thing, as my Lyrik just won’t hold up with what I ride and let’s be honest... the Fox 38 is just way too expensive!

[@raheemgahelable]

Lyrik won't hold up to the way you're riding?? It held up to the way that Sam Hill is riding for years on end! Come on now! 😂😂

[@infamousdnt]

Okay bud

[@itsallmathematics]

@@raheemgahelable Same Hill doesn't run the same fork for 2-3 seasons.

[@outofAlog]

That Spinal Tap clip was genius

[@TheLostCo]

Glad you enjoyed it! What a classic...

[@nick_401]

i just ordered a bike that comes with a 170mm Lyrik... now I want the Zeb, but im still super excited for my bike

[@burton926]

Great rundown. Still think this is a ridiculous amount of fork for most riders, but if you're willing to haul it to the top, good on ya! I'll stick with my 35/36mm options until I can afford to diversify the quiver with a lightweight trail bike and a monster truck.

[@jasonlewis6914]

And here I thought my rockshox pike rct3 35mm was thick enough lol

[@jsv438]

It is... I have PIKES on my carbon SJ. They'll handle just about anything. It DOES make sense that these manufacturers have to keep improving designs to handle what SOME riders are in need for. There are so many riders going to FOX 38s and these ZEBs, I'll bet you only a small fraction of these riders actually NEED a f*n 38mm stanchion!! Before these models, 38s (190mm!) were only dual crown designs. I mean 36's are huge, and the PIKE 35 is very capable AM/trail and very hefty. Every time something NEW is introduced, there'll be thousands of riders chompin-at-the-bit to have the 'newest thing', or the my fork handles more than yours fork lol! It's impressive. I love the new technology making components more compatible, but just because something's new, more expensive, bigger, etc, we know it doesn't mean it's the right thing for every rider. They WILL sell them to riders that don't need them though. Hey I'm even a bit 'over-biked' w/my 150mm PIKEs and 140mm FOX DPX2, and this stuff will handle even more than I can give it. On that set-up I'm riding terrain that pro riders years ago were handling just fine on hardtails with 130mm travel! At what point are we just going to put motorcycle forks on our FS mountain bikes..? ~JSV

[@XBOX360Zocka]

So i just wanted to Order a pair of Fox 38 Factorys. Which one is better. For info, i dont care on which one has better value. Just the raw performance.

[@camdavey5690]

Love yours vids dude always really informative

[@da12641]

I was thinking of buying a full blown DH bike and then came the Zed 190mm to save the day! Thank you Rockshox!

[@declanpriddy270]

so the question we've all wanted to know, zeb or fox 38?

[@ssjj9584]

Sweet!!!! Time for comparison vid of this and Fox 38 😉

[@mrvwbug4423]

Assuming the dampers behave the same as their little brothers. The Zeb will probably win. Charger 2.1 > GRIP2 for the last couple years. Zeb is also lighter than the 38.

[@toadman7529]

Double cheeked up on a Thursday afternoon

[@emmanueljydefernandez6230]

ZEB and FOX38 compareson pleaseeee🤩

[@andinamm2246]

Great! It seems pretty enougth for me?... It is worth to go for a Ohlins or sone like that?

[@powertapping]

I like your style of presenting. Screw the haters. That said my new Giant E Reign cones stock with the zeb. I’m looking forward to getting on it and going hard.

[@dawn-moon]

7:43 : still a lot of flex there ( fore-aft ). How did it feel during braking ?

[@steelwing7532]

I see what you're seeing. But also think about where that load would be focused had the fork not flexed. That would be a lot of torque on the headset!

[@hawgietonight]

Such beefy stanchions and lowers make the steerer tube flex like a noodle. The bottom headset bearings are screaming BINGO!

[@dawn-moon]

@@hawgietonight maybe that's why fox designed some top end forks with elliptical steerer tubes now...

[@TeamCykelhold]

I guess what we really need to know is how it stacks up against fox 38. I hope vorsprung suspension makes a vid.

[@bikeninja956]

I just bought a pair off pinkbike, curious, lot's of talk on the forums about negative pressure building up in the lower legs with various solutions to solve that. I notice there seems to be bleeder valves on the model I have, I'm assuming they're used to alleviate that issue??

[@TheLostCo]

Yes those bleeder valves are to release buildup in the negative air chamber! You got the new model rather than the old one covered in this video. -Tor

[@not_that_nate]

Bro I would kill to put that with190mm travel on a 2020 Scott gambler and add a dinner plate of a cassette with the new SRAM 520% gear range. It would make a absolutely monstrous beast of a enduro bike and I would try to add other parts to lose a bit of weight

[@antonioespindola2000]

Now let’s see a head to head with a fox 38 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@tykelly446]

Hey mike, when will you be taking orders for the new ZEB? Also do you know if or when rapid racer products will be making a direct mount mudguard for the ZEB using the current threaded holes? Thanks in advance

[@macrio5]

THE best review (on the new fork) as always ma dudes! What's the weight difference between ZEB and F38??

[@hjalteholdgaard3814]

The zeb is lighter

[@pauldapra]

@@hjalteholdgaard3814 fox 38, has kashima😢😂

[@HeathenRides]

I really wants one but it's also many other upgrades i want for my bike and I figured that all the upgrades i wants going to be more expensive than my Turbo levo

[@mikehaslett3738]

The edits in this were perfect 😂

[@mattx4253]

How does this feel to the boxxer with only 35mm. I find the boxxer very flexy on the kenevo

[@blakedavenport266]

At 210 ish pounds, my bronson only really takes a 160 up front unless I put a cascade link on it. So you are saying the Lyrik is still better? I figured a 160 Zeb would still be good. I ride a decent amount of bike park so I think it would do me good.

[@nathangaffran]

So with the new sid fork and the zeb does this make the pike obsolete. Why get the pike instead of the lyrik and if you want something lighter then go for sid

[@catg9196]

Ok, ok, so how do you compare it with a Fox 38? Everybody wants to know, if they are in the market for these burly forks. And since you have the luxury to use both. Which one is better?

[@jackshuttleworth6570]

Has anyone noticed just near pikes peak and the RockShox place is a place called manitou. Weird coincidence isn’t it.

[@antongrobler3781]

Well done man good review!!!! Iam a rockshox fan

[@andrewhernaman3782]

Just ordered my new zebs after watching your video

[@WestonWill]

Development in forks that don't cost more then a good entry level bike would be great. The RockShox 35 looks to be a decent upgrade for most entry level bikes, but still expensive for most beginners.

[@bike_somm]

Awesome vid & humor👌🏼

[@Heltob29]

Can you say how it compares to the Fox 38 - apart from price of course, which is obvious ;) ?

[@johnvincentbarbaza1221]

Hello sir merry christmas, can i ask what is the best tuning settings for my RS zeb ultimate? Thank you so much sir

[@TheLostCo]

It largely depends on your weight, riding style, etc. If you give us a call or shoot us an email, we can help give you some direction! [phone] // [e-mail]

[@worldstallestmidget]

Can you switch the damper on tbe Zen r to the rc2?

[@nikolavrckovic1588]

Hi there! When can we expect review of WTB Verdict and Verdict Wet?

[@WilliamAlomar]

Loved the editing...

[@IronX77]

How does it compare to the Fox 38? Head to head please!

[@Deano1mtb]

Could the Zeb R dual position fork be used on a regular mtb? Just thinking how handy the lock out feature would be for long climbs.

[@andrew12schoon]

not one single mention of the Manitou Mezzer?! 37mm stanchions with IRT so you can set it up literally any way you want. Stiffer than the lyrik and fox 38 plus lighter! Got the new 2021 model myself and haven't looked back, such an amazing fork. Manitou got it spot on!

[@arben0906]

All of sudden. The Lyrik sweet spot is only at 150 and 160? HaHa

[@User-re9so]

I was a bit confused too haha

[@lukasbormann4830]

Becasue there is something better now for more travel 😂

[@christianhennes855]

Well I rock a 170mm lyrik and that is an amazing sweet spot

[@playadelcarmenkiteboarding5677]

What about the select + ?

[@nicom4996]

But I'll keep with the lyrick because red is faster! -The biggest slice of british pie!

[@benforshee6269]

With the increased travel, will thst cause damage to headtubes?

[@Patrikrumin]

Has Rockshox done anything to cure creaky CSU with this fork? I own a Yari RC and I’ve already replaced two CSUs:(

[@alangabrielaldanaorantes5118]

This fork is super cool my Ransom 930 bring that RockShox Zeb.

[@stevenparisi]

I just converted my 36 to a coil (my rear is a coil), but I should have waited to try one of these burley forks. Don't suppose you all demo these Zebs locally?

[@lockardbowen9666]

Are you going to review the new redesigned Kona hei hei?

[@NICOLASCALVOZ]

Wallet is allready out.. .the thing is if i should go Ultimate or Select.... the thing is that my priority is plushness... i'm going for the one which gives me that.... I really don't care of fine tunning , so i rather go for tune and go..... any recommendations?

[@emteebee1872]

I’m also more interested in plush when riding chattery trails. Did you end up getting the ultimate or select?

[@yakbiker75]

Are the compression dampers interchangable with lyrics?

[@troyphillips1077]

Definitely want a Zeb , 27.5 , 44mm offset 150mm travel .

[@mrknuks1]

Hi, how is the uphill with this fork? Can I make it easy harder for climbing?

[@eliottlewandowski9961]

11:50 General Kenobi

[@mrknuks1]

Hi, how is the fork at uphill? No lockout or? Found my dreambike but I m not sure about the uphill Performance. Pls help

[@noah1239]

Does the lyrik damper fit into the zeb?

[@wildlife9161]

Anyone know's if the Charger R of ZEB can be revalved or tuned somehow? My Charger R damper seems to have very high setting of low speed compression and it hammers my hands. No matter what i do with pressure.

[@DavidParathyras]

Man awesome editing!!😂

[@rileygray195]

I have a downhill bike and the closest uplift is 3 hours, so I might get one in 190mm travel one so I can climb better

[@fritzschuller9906]

Bro you just need an enduro bike

[@rileygray195]

@@fritzschuller9906 dude shut up I'm trying to convince myself that I need a new fork

[@brandmeegmbh9883]

Is this the new Devinci Spartan 2021 Frame?

[@specs8968]

I just purchused the zeb for my foucus jam2 with 160mm travel im 90kg with gear what setting do you think would be a good start

[@TheLostCo]

For reference: I am about 170 lbs and I don't use volume spacers and have about 68 psi. Check out the chart on the side of the lowers for a good place to start as far as pressure goes. I like a fast rebound (1 or 2 clicks from the top) and a more open compression. Give us a call or shoot us an email and we can help you further! [phone] // [e-mail]

[@blazinmtbco719]

Must have this fork not just because I’m in Colorado Springs

[@danielzahradnik2571]

how you have zeb in your Devinci 180 and 44 ofset?

[@sprousaTM]

Wanted to upgrade to a 150mm lyrik Ultimate. Weighing around 230-235 pounds when riding, rather get the ZEB? Running a Pike ultimate right now. So either way it won't feel as wobbly.

[@jamietelfer2769]

What fork do you think’s the best the Fox 38 or Zeb??

[@jamble7k]

he loves the grip 2 damper so what do you think lol

[@Wizler71]

Ok so we know Pike and Zeb but where does the name "Lyrik" come from?

[@mrvwbug4423]

The same place as Reba, Judy, Sid, etc.

[@RNicknackpaddywhack]

Wonder if they’re looking at making the boxxer in a 38mm down the road.

[@louisspichtig8363]

Lucky me! I have exactly that fork in the lovely grey.

[@TheLostCo]

We are HUGE fans of the Slab Grey!

[@doubblea2]

Fox Factory 38 or ZEB????

[@stianjarnass]

I have a stupid q😅. I've got the Zeb with my new Torque. It's stiff and burly but it's not plush. I've only used the recommended pressures. But my e-bike has the yari and it's so plush riding into roots and rocks. But not as stiff and burly of course🤷. I should experiment with the pressure🤭😁

[@emteebee1872]

I’m considering the Zeb Select for my eMTB cuz I want something more plush especially on chattery trails. Were you able to figure it out?

[@stianjarnass]

@@emteebee1872 no actually not. I guess it felt a bit better pedaling. Drops feels plush though and heavy hits 🤭. I'm not sure but I guess it's a bit over forked. 35mm forks are more than enough for Trail bikes even emtbs. I know the torque is built for more extreme than I usually do 🤭

[@James-dn1hu]

When getting the zeb oem on a built up bike the lowest spec model comes with no compression adjustment cap and instead just says ‘charger’. Slightly disappointing that you have to pay extra for such features.

[@Yhigma]

I'm looking forward to all the used lyriks on pinkbike when people switch to zeb. I love mine, but too many stanchion scratches at this point.

[@pivektv5041]

Can i change my 150mm and put on 170mm zeb

[@TheLostCo]

If you currently have a 150mm ZEB, you can buy a 170mm Air Shaft for that fork and swap them out. If you need help with this process or parts for swapping out the air shaft, please give us a call or shoot us an email! [e-mail] // [phone]

[@Durni624]

Can i use this on a stumpy

[@raheemgahelable]

Dude! Gold as always! 🤘🤘🤘

[@travelinzac]

did you run it at 190 at all on the Spartan or keep it to 170-180?

[@BengLang84]

Can I use this for my stumpjumper 27.5?

[@brassmnky33]

Pros/cons of buying a select and throwing a dampener in it? Do they even sell the dampeners yet?

[@patka9196]

I love my FOX 36 Factory Grip 2... would not switch to that RockShox...

[@jamesmorwood6373]

The real question is should I replace my yari with a zeb or just spend the 250$ and go to the charger 2.1 damper and call it a day? Would it be worth it to spend an extra 650$ on the zeb ultimate?

[@TheLostCo]

Hm, that depends on your bike and riding style. If you have a bike with 160mm or more of travel and tend to ride pretty hard, it could be a good consideration going up to the ZEB. Give us a call, shoot us an email, or reach out on our live chat and we can help in your decision making process! [phone] // [e-mail]

[@hertenhals2]

Why does rockshox not have high and low speed rebound? Is there a benefit of having just one rebound dial?

[@nichtDarkDiamond]

Rockshox is an exclusive product for people that are too stupid to differenchiate the two different dials.

[@fresko3035]

Can someone explain me the charger thing ?

[@John-shreds]

Your videos are amazing! I love em.

[@Soso64bit]

Do a review on your Spartan! Great video btw!

[@Jon-nz3dm]

In one shot you have an Assegai, the main shot you have a WTB tire(judge?), and then you have a magic mary in another lol. Different bikes or you change your tires everyday? 😁

[@samo-nx2pl]

Yeah yeah, but mine stop working after 2 hours. No rebound and there is some knocking sound..?

[@southsoundrider5428]

Don't forget to add that Mike will personally autograph each Zeb he sells!

[@TheMachoGabacho]

I like it, but it’s a bit much for my hardtail!

[@Dark__Thoughts]

And my nonexistent funds, but I thought the same. That thing would look great on my mmmbop frame though.

[@Brothisiscrazy]

Looks sick!

[@jakecolam33]

what size steering tube does it have

[@TheLostCo]

It has a 1.5" tapered steerer!

[@DDirtyDDog]

Manitou Mazzer 180mm 37 mm stanchions 2000 gram weight. Please test against Zeb.

[@lennyknott2734]

I need this my downhill bike