GTA Definitive Edition Made Us Lose Some Good Mods...

GTA Definitive Edition is being picked apart as this year's version of Cyberpunk 2077 and honestly the focus should be at what we're losing in the community sphere for a bunch of game remasters that leave the original games far more desired. Thanks for watching!
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[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@fango5488]

I love you

[@memeologyman9576]

No

[@noyou3390]

We

[@pinkrtn]

ight bro i will

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Good thing those mods can be returned

[@whiteobama3032]

I gotta give it to rockstar, this was one of the most successful act of forcing people in to piracy in gaming history.

[@nittayoshifumi8252]

Yo, you sailin?

[@whiteobama3032]

@@nittayoshifumi8252 wherever we want to go, we'll go

[@Riley_MDS]

Ayo lemme in, I'm a Veteran when it comes to piracy over thousands of software in the sea :)

[@imnobodyanon9430]

really putting the theft in grand theft auto back, you've been in GTA for decades, now it's time for you to BE the GTA

[@sr.365]

@@whiteobama3032 i don't have a crew, but wherever I go, I give it my all.

[@poisonousarrow]

It really says something when a multi-billion dollar coporation can't even make there game look better than the modders did completely free.

[@fikhrimaheswarat.3905]

and the corporation got mad that they have to forced modders to take down their mods

[@kamo7293]

yeah.. it says that the modders had more passion for the game than their own company

[@quinten01]

Their*

[@Bruhngus420]

and they’ll continue to not give a shit

[@mistxfusion]

@@Bruhngus420 untill people stop rewarding their laziness however that may never happen

[@Voidrad]

Evil Rockstar be like: ''Seeing all these modders taking care of our game makes us really happy.''

[@fenn_fren]

Evil Rockstar be like: We just implemented many changes that should help the problem with cheaters in Online in this update!

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

Evil R*: Hey guys, we really messed up with this one. We're giving out refunds for those who want them, and we will be working hard to give you the experience you deserve as our customers. For this reason, we are taking down the current version of the game. When "Definitive Editon" comes back, it will be 50% off.

[@manhthecall]

@@theguylivinginyourwalls shit sounds so good i actually smiled, i wish evil rockstar was real

[@ALEXDD970]

@@theguylivinginyourwalls " Plus, Gta 6 is planned to release 2023, just thought our customers should know"

[@booyaboibob]

@@ALEXDD970 😂

[@heyitsreyo]

The fact that Rockstar didn't care to actually remaster the legacy games themselves, but cared enough to /distribute/ them and for 60$ should tell you everything you need to know. It's a subpar nostalgia cash-grab and it's pathetic modders had to be shunned in the process. The modifications you mentioned in your video like SA-MP, MTA & GTA Underground are one of the reasons the original TRILOGY games are still so relevant to date. Because despite the modifications themselves, there are thousands of community-ran servers all with their own unique content that drive the player numbers for those games. Creating those lasting moments that you wouldn't otherwise experience in the base games. Also considering that the original versions of the games have been pulled from all other digital stores, forcing on players just the 'definitive editions' is surely a low-blow, and it's setting a decline for all those multiplayer mods that rely on new players running the old games. Truly, the effort, love and compassion for these games is something insurmountable and it baffles me how Rockstar can't clean the sh*t out of their eyes to realize it. - Sincerely written by a modder. 👋

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

Greed is the most annoying of the deadly sins. It makes one delusional, out of touch with civilized reality, they can’t be satisfied making A profit, they just wanna grab every little penny they can, and it’s getting old.

[@booyaboibob]

Sad

[@darrickfoster8694]

Did you just clap at your own comment? 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

@@darrickfoster8694 that’s a waving hello emoji. Calm down.

[@harxist]

@@darrickfoster8694 it wasn't a clapping emoji + we don't care + ratio + ur a furry + double ratio

[@Oujouj426]

We haven't just lost these mods, we've also lost the modders. I can't imagine that these people would want to mod any future rockstar titles after this kind of treatment.

[@sadsworth4605]

Yea fuck rockstar at this point atleast Bethesda tried to siphon a BIT off money from the mod hype but they didn't discourage them

[@gavins9846]

Companies really turning into fun-police

[@squidward9747]

@@gavins9846 it sucks because they’re VIDEO GAMES…THEYRE SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!

[@gavins9846]

@@squidward9747 Fr it's insane why some people chose to be so uptight.

[@YarugumaSou]

@@squidward9747 They must've learned from the neil cuckmann school of No fun in games

[@rustymustard7798]

The real "Definitive Edition" is the FitGirl repack.

[@alexf0723]

Of the originals

[@1NumNum]

FitGirl repack might be better

[@crashbandicoot5636]

Amen to that brother.

[@villings]

saw it getting it playing it all week see you all around

[@potatogaming792]

Yea.

[@TailsIsDisappointed]

This is what happens when you let the creators of the Mobile Port make this. You get cursed close up of CJ smiling away his internal pain, becoming a husk.

[@chudthug]

The curse of modern rockstar

[@fr0ck360]

@@chudthug They inherited that curse from Steam anyway

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

As someone who grew up with the 10th Anniversary port of GTA 3 (iOS), that hurts.

[@adrianp7574]

He doesn’t even have facial expressions in this edition 😂

[@pancakerings]

gotta love- i mean hate Modern Rockstar

[@mikehawk6175]

Rockstar is a prime example of “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.

[@LeMeowAu]

Game companies as general

[@staringcorgi6475]

Rockstar isn’t to blame it’s take 2 why don’t people understand this

[@mikehawk6175]

@@staringcorgi6475 whatever the reason may be, you hate to see it 😔

[@MrMarttivainaa]

@@staringcorgi6475 I'd wager that Rockstar's head honcho chairs have been infested by scummy suits since gta 4. Rockstar isn't a good company that is forced by daddy take-two to be horrible.

[@halogod0298]

@@staringcorgi6475 doesn’t matter. If they are following evil orders, that makes them evil.

[@EnemyAC130Aboveu]

“You can’t get the original copies on the store anymore, only the definitive edition” me: Smiles while holding all 3 original copies for my PlayStation

[@jon664_]

Glad I got them on Steam already a while ago. I would have had no issue pirating them though. Fuck Take-Two

[@Shadowsoul2701]

"The biggest companies make the worst crap!" -Dankpods

[@realspeedghxst]

Damn right if DankPods made a video about the Definitive Edition trilogy it will be hilarious

[@bombboy3427]

Players : "Can you release a new game yet?" RockStar "No, but we can remove three of them and ban modding." Players : "What?" RockStar : "What?"

[@justaDN96]

HAAHAHAHAH bro im dyin

[@lamardavisakald4438]

It’s take two, they have been in bed long enough

[@xaytana]

@@lamardavisakald4438 In bed? No, R* is literally owned by Take-Two. If they were just in bed with each other, R* could break themselves off from the relationship, which isn't quite as feasible when TT owns them.

[@doomjuan]

@@lamardavisakald4438 Cheater cheats in gta online Rockstar/T2: I sleep Someone fixes rockstar’s games Rockstar/T2: REAL SHIT

[@derthevaporeon]

Also RockStar: *Schedules another GTA Online DLC after the hype dies down*

[@allisvanity445]

I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact the definitive editions are based on the completely UNPATCHED mobile versions

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

by the same studio that brought us mobile version too

[@thedrbat9572]

IKR! I had bought the mobile ports when they first came out for ios. The game ran like absolute crap and the bugs were outrageous. i never wanted to play mobile port again but of course the development team uses the worst port possible

[@retrosimon9843]

​@KitchensAreHot yup. For example CJ can't even cycle slowly anymore now because that would mean tapping your mobile screen constantly so they took that out.

[@Menaceblue3]

YongYea was how I found out

[@thetruestar6348]

That’s fucking disgusting

[@lordmartinofleithandcuddy6541]

‘The real Definitive Edition is the money we made along the way’ - Rockstar

[@nabilsalih2898]

A fresh take on an old classic 😂

[@stealthysaucepan2016]

*take two

[@EdgeOfLight]

that money sure is definitive, everybody will buy it despite the outrage. So sad

[@ryanm.8720]

Alternatively; "Maybe the real treasure was the fans we betrayed along the way!"

[@4m4n40]

This is a prime example of what happens when you have bad or no competition and become complacent

[@HonduranMegatron]

Imagine the gold mine Rockstar/Take Two would’ve been sitting on, had they embraced modding and hired hella talented modders to remaster the trilogy

[@ImNotJust]

Take-Two: money Rockstar: money Modders: passion

[@Almighty_Sweetapon]

Dutch: They are God damn CowaR*ds Arthur, Cowards!

[@TheExileFox]

Rockstar was fine. Then 3d universe happened. And in the end R* forgot what made previous games good. Eventually gta online arrived and TakeTwo are grumpy money-hungry mongrels with nothing better to do than bully and boss Rockstar around when they can't send their legal team to go fight mods

[@NicoFireBlood]

And yet cheaters are having a field day in GTA5 online while take-two goes after people who make mod to enhance solo player experience.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Yup. Because of the pay piggies giving them enough money in hopes that they can get back at them, by buying an opressor MK2. They kinda let the cheaters roam, because : 1) It would take effort to get rid of them and is a losing battle 2) Having people frustrated that are now willing to buy an advantage, or want to reward themselves with a purchase after getting griefed by cheaters to make themselves feel better. It is in Rockstar's / Take 2's interest to be lazy.

[@jak_1894]

Cheats are the other side of the coin when it comes to mods, and why I don't feel like defending modders when big companies come after them, after ruining most competitive multiplayer games out there.

[@abderianagelast7868]

@@jak_1894 That's like saying "dogs biting people is the other side of people owning dogs, and that's why I don't defend against PETA putting down dogs that haven't ever bit people before." It's completely ridiculous. The problem isn't with the tool itself, but rather how people are using it. It's entirely possible to support modding without supporting cheaters, and in fact I think most people who like mods have that position. I know I do. Additionally, seeing a massive corporation target people who are making content out of love for the game over people making cheats that typically harm the game experience is...not pleasant, to say the least. It's because these corporations are more concerned with short-term gains than longevity. It's depressing.

[@g3rdus12]

cheaters dont lose them money

[@jak_1894]

@@abderianagelast7868 If your a console gamer you can't use mods, and have to deal with cheaters regularly on multiplayer games. Which is also not pleasant to say the least. So there is no upside to mods for the majority of gamers out there.

[@117johnpar]

Corporations will never in a million years fully utilize and leverage their modding community. Bethesda is a great example, Basically everyone working over there knew that mods were propping their flimsily cobbled together games up way higher than they ever should. And They still managed to grenade their own modding community by monetizing and comodifying it. Corporations arent just bad, theyre fundamentally antithetical to the creative process.

[@necrosteel5013]

True of any group that does not care about the quality of the game with influence over it . Especially if there is literally no competition left to leave a yardstick for quality anymore.

[@Iceman_V4LOR]

Monetization is a cancer.

[@nissengummihone]

Intellectual property shouldn't be a thing

[@necrosteel5013]

@@nissengummihone before the internet was invented, I would disagree After the internet though... Yeah I agree

[@lop90ful1]

Idk bethasda and valve are doing fine with modding

[@MiGujack3]

Mods got me into GTA, I made mods of SA long before GTA V was even announced. I'm blown away by T2s decisions. GTA's modding scene is the biggest one by far. I can't believe they went hostile on a community that could be considered one of their pillars to stay relevant. It was already quite complex to make a car mod right on SA, yet people pushed through the difficulty of IV and V like nothing, for free. Bethesda is doing well(don't forget about paid mods stunt though), Minecraft is thriving. Sims are also huge, despite the last game being awful. The losers on T2 could do the same. At this point I just want T2 to go bankrupt since their leadership is made out of greedy losers anyway. As for music it's always a difficult subject since it's controlled by entities like UMG which is basically a mafia and their licensing prices are probably insane.

[@justanothergabs4710]

as much as i agree here, at this point, they basically want you to pirate it, do not feel bad for pirating it, you don't need to support the original creators anymore, and you can't actually support them in a way that will put rockstar in the right path as a company, 100% pirate it, its about as morally wrong as it is to use a gun in self defense, so, not wrong at all. you can say pirating roms, modern games and stuff like that is bad but when this is the product that they deliver and prevent you from buying the other better versions, that is them giving you the moral permission to pirate it

[@xGMV]

Precisely what I'm doing. Fixed GTA III a few days ago, Vice City is almost there, and San Andreas is ready. No crashes, the best of all worlds (PS2 feels, XBOX models and mobile port's features) and guess what, my 2011 PC can run it just fine, save for SA's grass, that thing is my bane even with the memory patches.

[@atomicdeathray2004]

Rockstar isn't getting a single cent from me. I never felt guilty of pirating the old GTA trilogy because I knew R* is a fucking scumbag of a company EDIT: I pirated the games AFTER R* released the DE

[@justanothergabs4710]

I usually pirated msny games in my lifetime, but if you told me I was morally wrong then, I wouldn't disagree, this is one of the few exceptions where pirating is the only moral choice here

[@evergreen7754]

I've honestly gotten so worn down over the past few years because of ridiculous big wig practices. Whether it be ubisoft, rockstar, or Nintendo, it doesn't change how shitty it feels as a consumer and/or fan to be so easily disregarded. Great video muta.

[@jackhearts7957]

Its frankly depressing, isnt it? To see your childhood commercialized, restricted, castrated of creativity for a quick buck

[@jackhearts7957]

Its like they used to serve us 5 star fine dining, and now they're giving us the frozen easy meal replacement

[@LeMeowAu]

GTA players talking about how rockstar reskins GTAV while bitchesda been milking Skyrim for years till it’s just bones

[@RisingRevengeance]

@ross3695 Mods Yeah you shouldn't have to feel that way. The devs for A Hat in Time started a new project yesterday where you can sell mods as actual dlc, and of course it had great mod support before that too. It's so cool but things like that only happen with smaller teams.

[@paasyjenkins9884]

The gaming industry has gotten way too big, that sadly attracted all the money hungry fucks. Back then it wasn't about making a lot of money, it was more of creating art and making themselves a name / reputation. These times are over and i have no clue what any videogame enjoyer can do if a big majority of people is supporting this kind of shit. The only way these guys will notice that we see games as art is when they get a hit in their bank account.

[@itsmenoname2247]

mods are the reason I played fallout new vegas for years after the game was released. same with skyrim and GTA 4

[@glanni]

Any game for me, really.

[@decoy3418]

Skyrim without a 100 mods isn't worth even a dollar.

[@daytimelantern6570]

@@decoy3418 psychotic

[@Jsipki265]

@@daytimelantern6570 I mean not really

[@deanobrien2021]

@@decoy3418 it definitely is , sure mods greatly improve Skyrim but it was still an 8.6 on metacritic for the 360 version

[@Wubsy96]

Rockstar is pulling a Grand Theft Assault on the independent modders.

[@saturn580]

Being anti-piracy makes sense when publishers provide quality content for a reasonable price. Once they start pumping out inferior "remasters" and cynical cash-grabs, they are no longer acting in good faith towards their customers and deserve to lose money.

[@booyaboibob]

Yup 😔

[@htler4778]

It's funny how prideful the developers of the definitive edition are. On their site they brag about being revolutionary in the industry.

[@deathsyth8888]

I bet they like the smell of their own farts.

[@ertrick3693]

They are revolutionary. Revolutionary in how much one can fuck up masterpiece video games.

[@glanni]

I'm pretty sure it's business talk. Can't say anything negative, can't say nothing either.

[@tristanraine]

@@ertrick3693 Revolutionary on how they made a 20 year old game look and feel even worse

[@potato1907]

*the metacritic page for the definitive edition laughing in like top 10 lowest rated games on the site*

[@djjordg2748]

That 65% save file thing got me, sad as shit they’d actually take that down aswell

[@flossimoth]

oh god, looking at that version of Vice City in GTA5 brings back memories... I remember playing it as a kid/young teen completely uninterested in the actual game, just driving around the city listening to the radio, swapping vehicles whenever I saw one I liked more, running down pedestrians for fun. I loved the Vice City radio stations, and the look of the city

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Play the campaign until you unlock the second island and never touch it again gang.

[@manthanc7727]

I feel grateful for having the og PS2 version of San Andreas with the og version of the PS2 itself.

[@robert779]

Same! I don’t have much interest in replaying any of these today, but I will always have them on the shelf since they were landmark games.

[@heheheiamderpmatter375]

I wonder if Rockstar is going to DMCA the very PEOPLE that own the OG copies of these games.

[@IR-Fan]

@@heheheiamderpmatter375 Now that's fucked up.

[@jaypeterman9721]

@@IR-Fan they literally sent hired goons to a YTers house for a website flaw on their end. They are that bloodthirsty

[@cynical8330]

That drop to 20 FPS when you run down the street is painful, but the way the sunsets looks and atmosphere is immaculate. The best middle ground is the Xbox original version on a modern Xbox, good performance and decent atmosphere with a slightly better control setup.

[@swagbronick6364]

Press F for the mods we lost, but never forgotten😔

[@ChristopherGray00]

just because rockstar is legally going after them doesn't mean the mods are gone, still plenty of sites hosted in countries that do not comply with DMCA law.

[@aujorduunforte2922]

@@ChristopherGray00 is that true!?!?!? that might be a glamour of hope for me this is going to be the first time im going to mod san andreas

[@nezunish-2-824]

Look like torrenting gonna be the main way to download this mods and even the og version of the game

[@glanni]

Viva la revolución!!!

[@majehwolfe]

Man, I remember getting into SAMP back in the day. Jim Pickens will never be forgotten.

[@btchiaintkidding7837]

Fellow cultists

[@johnhanna5068]

Ahh yes, our lord and saviour Jim Pickens

[@abg44]

Man I miss LSRP & Moving Target Gaming servers

[@ThatsRightUnclePhil]

@@abg44 All those hours spent building up savings on that server, good times, rip.

[@qvaras]

Hail Jim Pickens

[@cherrypepsi2815]

I love how Rockstar has become a verbatim copy of the companies they made fun of in GTA V

[@rgbok5453]

This makes me realize that Bethesda were good guys with the anniversary edition of Skyrim. They even let skse modder to have game early to make the updated mod

[@seb3522]

It sickens me, and I'm sure the whole Rockstar/GTA community as well, to see Take 2 take down these awesome mods to these awesome games. It's sad to see this happening right in front of us, the community have built these mods for the past years because they love the game, and to see Take 2 take down some of the most respected mods away is sad. Rockstar is really starting to lose their respect they've gained over the years.

[@gamepad3173]

eventually though Rockstar will have lost all respect for their community and Take two will be sitting back with a lit Cigar watching the chaos unfold.

[@alvarogutierrez9906]

I remember buying these games on a xbox where you could even play your own music on the radio, it was a nice touch that gave the games something new from the original playstation games

[@somuchdirt74]

These companies should sell a documentary about how/why they drop the ball on stuff like this with no bs behind it. It's exhausting seeing stuff like this happen time and time again.

[@mineman633]

Maybe the real difintive edition wasn’t grand theft auto, but the freinds we killed and betrayed along the way

[@loqan2]

Imagine if Rockstar would just hire some of the skilled molders in the community instead of DMCAing them. Thats what valve did and got counter strike, its a win win move most of the time

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

you would've think they do this by now. like how casinos hire former card cheaters to spot cheats at the table and FBI hiring hackers for security rebuffing. NOP they just outsource mobile game devs to fix up a PS2 game and assume that would not cause any hiccups

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

some of that blame can be put on the head of Grove Street Games (since it took 2 years to make this edition) and the conflicting quality of the games shows where the team was directed to prioritize in some places like focusing on the foliage and neon lighting, and ignore in character models. the "artistic choice" defense doesn't not work anyways because there was no direction to begin with. but ultimately the fault was on Rockstar for green lighting the outsource and not maybe have atleast the GTA V dev team. the poor devs at GSG are gonna have this on their resumes now

[@loqan2]

@@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift its funny bc I bet they could pay a handful of modders much less to make a better product than GSG

[@RoVirus]

Wasn't there a sonic game made by a fan team that turned out better than most modern sonic games? You'd figure other companies would see that and try to replicate that success...

[@Taha632RMF]

@@RoVirus Yeah that was sonic mania, really good game

[@thechugg4372]

When I saw the og trilogy was being delisted, my first thought was: "what if the remasters suck though?" and so I bought the trilogy bundle before they were removed.

[@calebcustombricks2631]

Same buddy. And I’m so glad I did

[@realspeedghxst]

Well I never bought a game in my life but remembered that when gta san andreas remaster for ps3 and xbox 360 was bad and shitty with bugs I thought they will screw it up even with DE and boy I was right

[@XXXXX8]

@@realspeedghxst "Never bought a game in my life." Smells like broke bitch in here.

[@robertvalenica8999]

But, you still bought these titles again? WHY? You most likely bought them at full price, when you could have gotten a physicals copy of a PC port or gotten a CDKEY. This decision was clearly to cause a artificial scarcity. Rockstar/Take-Two did there job, they made you BUY the game again.

[@DolphinMayhem69]

@@robertvalenica8999 Fuck paying for a GTA game lol I got all GTA games for free by either pirating or through free give aways like when EPIC launcher gave GTA V out for free for a limited time.

[@YeagerBomb115]

7:49 ”Rockstar was like clearing house” Rockstar: ”That’s one less loose end”

[@LordHonkInc]

Yeah, I'll say it again, the Definitive Editions of these games came out between 2001 and 2004. As in, the best version you could buy for money; what modders put into those games was priceless.

[@OmnipotentSaiyan]

Now I see why everyone is so pissed at the Definitive Edition. They had Online Servers on GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas just to be DMCA'd and forced to play a glitchy version of the game in Singleplayer only mode for the 1 millionth time. I wasn't mad at first because I only played with no mods on PS2. Then the game is worse than the original bug wise. That shouldn't be a issue in 2021 letting games that was made nearly 20 years ago run better than the remasters that was made with better technology. I didn't buy it because I'm broke and don't want to pay $60 for games I played when I was 8 that has enhanced graphics.

[@hgbugalou]

Honestly I think this should be an illegal practice. All the mods used reversed engineering practices that have been proven legal in court. If you own the base game, you should be able to do what you want with it. If they wanted to make nice with some of the textures swap and assets swaps why not just sell a mod pass for those that want to play with the mods. Everyone wins then.

[@BossXygman]

I think it's really bad PR to take down mods that you have to own the game to play

[@Raul_Menendez]

Valve: Nice mods, kid. Wanna work for us? Rockstar: MODDERS ARE RUINING OUR GAMES! CALL THE SUITS AND TAKE LEGAL ACTION!

[@GrimGX]

I really can’t fathom why these companies wouldn’t hire these mod developers to remaster the games, could you imagine what these modders could have accomplished if they didn’t need to reverse engineer the games first?

[@galacsinhajto]

Modern publishers and their shareholders do not want collaboration with their audiences. They want walled gardens and consumers who are happy to slurp up whatever slop they are provided. All of this is on purpose and intentional. They don't think like you and me, it's pure corporate brainrot.

[@Luxstar13]

@@galacsinhajto well that's true. the only company that fully support the modding community so far is sega as they even publish a real game by the audiences.

[@Kreank]

SA:MP was my shit back in the day. The amount of good RP I experienced there is unbelievable, I have spent hours/entire days playing that back then(it was also pretty damn advanced).

[@ryderls2729]

For some reason I love it when Muda shits on stuff like this, he has such an entertaining yet logical way of doing it

[@brandonkruse6412]

My grannies pacemaker could probably run GTA III as well as my PC at this point.

[@devangnivatkar2649]

The TLAD content in GTA 4 mod was actually unique. Some assets i.e. the chopper bikes are in an earlier state than in actual TLAD, so are somewhat different at times.

[@kada0420]

you know, not showing gameplay before releasing is very scummy.

[@ShinK_319]

Take Two should, instead of scaring modders into taking their mods off, hire them to help them fix their mess of a game.

[@lichkrieg4898]

Just the freeway mods, and visual mods alone are A+. I spent so much time modding III, and it way easily 100% better. It's sad how far down they dropped the ball.

[@KyroOuttaSpace]

i use to play roleplay servers big time. RIP redgies roleplay. RIP littewhiteys. If anyone from the Lucci Family sees this, its Mark Romano here

[@ertrick3693]

God, I remember the single mod I made for GTA: San Andreas. Nothing like any of these big conversion mods (though I think I might've played the zombie one at some point), but it was a player skin collection that was literally just most of the models of the Resident Evil Outbreak main cast (because at the time I was *really* into Resident Evil Outbreak). I remember because I was still new to modeling (I literally learned through reading shoddy tutorials online, lmao), the models all had some jank to them, particularly Alyssa's C outfit, and sadly I never got around to finishing that project. Even so, I still felt so much pride when I made and released that little mod and look back on it fondly. And it upsets me to know so many others who made much bigger mods than I ever could are being forced to erase their pride, accomplishment, and history just because Cockstar felt their dick was too short to match up to that of their modding community.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

A lot of us were into GTA and RESI in the older days. I think San andreas has the most skin mods, simply because of the culture of the time.

[@PersonalAccountIndeed]

I remember being really hyped about a mod/project on GTAF called "Resident Evil: Outbreak File #3"

[@ImmolationVenus666]

As a broke ass artist, I care about detail, contrast, vibrancy, consistency, intricacy and texture to about everything that makes a legible image no matter what the style.. maybe it’s that I don’t have a million dollars to deprive me of any compassion but I really care

[@Jactional]

We need you running these games!!

[@Sterilitzia_Reginae]

You remind me of Yusuke from Persona 5

[@clashreplayz6419]

@@Jactional he can't run game's he's not a pc.

[@Jactional]

@@clashreplayz6419 haha ok smartass we need him designing games

[@-1707]

damn i really thought rockstar was the one game maker that had a degree of integrity. just because they put out good games doesn’t make their bullshit practices justifiable.

[@20EsOfficial]

I realised this as soon as they started milking gta v and lost all of my respect for the company. Gta V has been slowly becoming more and more shit with every "update". As soon as i saw the gameplay for Definitive edition, i could instantly and clearly see how cheap everything felt and how it was just a ploy to get everyone to buy the "remaster" they were making. It's nothing but a buggy retexture. Greed has ruined rockstar. Fuck rockstar.

[@EllySensei]

@@20EsOfficial Rockstar became someone who V made fun of.

[@nezunish-2-824]

Insert quote about " the either die a hero or long enough to be villain"

[@karu3067]

It all went downhill went GTA V made a lot of money, and the higher up began to take over decisions from passionate staffs.

[@abloodynova7625]

I still believe Rockstar still have the talents to make good games. But with Take Two in command, it's just shit.

[@memedudu1755]

This game is the definition of “I pirated this game and I still want my money back” I did not pirate this game nor played it

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

So many games feel like they are just money laundering schemes. You play for 10 minutes and the game feels old.

[@Jakedman21]

I love LSPD:FR, base mod basically makes an entire new game out of GTA V. Download a few car and ped packs, and a few plugin packs, and it becomes one of the best police, firefighter, and medic simulators to exist in the gaming world. I like to think GTA V is comparable to vanilla ice cream; it’s great on its own, and can be more than enough on a lot of occasions. But it’s also an amazing base for something more; whether it’s sprinkles (slight enhancements) or for chocolate chip cookie dough (larger mods like LSPDFR). You can’t threaten people for adding Oreo’s to the mix. Weird analogy, I know. Like you said, mods are why a lot of people buy these games. I already had GTA V on the 360 and Xbox One, I didn’t need it for PC, but I bought it anyways so I could experience new content that people who have genuine love for the franchise made. Completely free of charge. I remember a few years ago when TakeTwo shut down the project to port GTA IV’s map to GTA V. I could see the issue in that, but in order for the mod to function, you needed to own a legal copy of GTA IV. I’m sure a lot of people who didn’t previously own it, would’ve had no problem purchasing it just for that. They shot themselves in the foot on that one.

[@TheUnRemarkableGamer]

PSA: Enable DX12 on GTA trilogy to drastically improve at least the performance. I went from 115 FPS max, to 115 FPS as my minimum. I have legit never seen a "tip" give me an extra 40-60 FPS boost like this, absolutely unreal. Make a shortcut for each .exe. Right click and click properties. Look for the target line and add -dx12 to the end after the quotes. Apply and run from shortcut.

[@ertrick3693]

Using the kind of tricks you'd normally use to run a really old game on modern OS's, on a game that hasn't even been out for a month just so that it doesn't run like garbage Absolutely incredible

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

@@ertrick3693 Brings back memories of compatibility mode and single core threading.

[@bigsexy8707]

Same with battlefield 2042 enable dx12 in the files and it helps alot

[@victfv]

Very good remaster, copy-paste the C++ code from the mobile version into UE4, run the textures through Waifu2X and subdivide the character models. Unless they are using their own volumetric fog solution, they already have an exponential height fog actor in the scene, all they had to do is tweak the fog start, falloff and height. Instead, they turn it off and leave only the volumetric fog on. The game is insanely unoptimized to the point that it lags on all platforms, so there was probably no optimization pass at all.

[@joakimedvardsson2294]

And yet these NPC's splurge 70 bucks on it, at this point its not even rockstar fault.. its the people buying it

[@bandit7672]

@@joakimedvardsson2294 Fanboys will buy everything

[@bandit7672]

@@joakimedvardsson2294 Also defend it

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

No way they actually called the program Waifu2x, that was a joke you're making right :)?

[@tablettablete186]

"It compiles with just a few warnings... LET'S SHIP IT!" - Grove Street Games probably

[@charlesblasini2134]

12:24 "I'm not saying Rockstar should've rebuilt these games in Rage" Then i will Muta. Rockstar should've rebuilt these games in Rage.

[@Deliveredmean42]

Honestly, considering how phone nowadays are as strong as an xbox one or PS4 these days, I am surprised no one at Rockstar use Rage engine for this remaster. It was obvious they went with Unreal Engine 4 for the fact it is an engine that was flexible to run on Mobile.

[@I_am_a_cat_]

"If you think I haven't wasted a few hours on it, you'd be baffled" Wat, I'm baffled at that statement

[@TheZipperDragon]

This is why game companies need to allow mod support, because most of the people who make these mods arent looking for profit, they're looking to make the games they love better.

[@khangvinh4656]

They do this to trilogy and probably expected that modders would just fix it after just like the original. They definitely wanted the remastered trilogy to be modded as they know that the original one thrived on that. Yet, at the same time, they treated the community like shits, striking mods and basically nullified the works of every modders with the deletion of the original from being sold. *For anyone who are going to be modding the new remastered version of the trilogy, remember that you are basically just “assets” to them until they shut you down for their own benefits.*

[@DEV3N87]

If Take2/R* dropped the ball THIS HARD..... Just imagine how bad GTA 6 will be(if they even release it or just cyberpunk the shit out of it

[@decoy3418]

Even gta 5 is a huge downgrade from 4, i have no hope for gta 6.

[@tristanraine]

They dropped the ball so hard it shattered the hard wood floor and went through said floor.

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

if it took Grove Street games (poor SOBs) 2 years to release *this*. Rockstar is gonna go into crunch time

[@Navie.]

I'm never trying the definitive edition ...San Andreas means so much to be I'm literally " look at how They massacred my boy meme "

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

Played it when I was 7 in 2004. Look at how they massacared my boy.

[@driiifter]

The CEOs exist to make sure there is enough cognitive dissonance available for their company to continue siphoning money they don't deserve. That's why bad things keep happening to modders even though mods are seen as universally good, even by the original creators of the IP. The creators hands are tied by the CEOs, that's why CEOs exist. This is why you shouldn't sell your company to anyone if you care about the integrity of the games.

[@Mrbg123]

If you grew up middle class and struck gold as an indie dev, it would be real hard to turn down the hundreds of millions you would be offered. In the end it won’t change unless people directly finance games instead of production/distribution companies. This is unlikely tho because it would be more of an investment with the payoff being a good game, instead of a purchase; and that would attract scammers/fraud.

[@mikeehrmantraut1899]

“The moral of the story is: I chose a half-measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. No more half-measures.” The only game that is underrated to this day is Sleeping Dogs Definitive Editions

[@riven4121]

I'm still mad Sleeping Dogs' sequel got cancelled. That game is a straight up underrated gem.

[@vintage_sole4065]

Only the real know about this one.

[@MrFickelBurger]

Breaking Bad 🙌🏼

[@starstruckp4808]

What’s even more upsetting is that Sleeping Dogs never got a sequel, but Life is Strange is still running strong. What a crappy trade off.

[@itsdokko2990]

nothing but facts. i legit wanted to play sleeping dogs again, via illegal methods, but the game is good to the point it's not worth pirating

[@HanSolo__]

Rockstar *HAS NO SINGLE ACTIVE DEVELOPER* working there that was involved in the creation of these games.

[@trashcompactorYT]

That doesn’t excuse them from putting their name on the shit, removing the classic games from all platforms, and issuing lawsuits to modders

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Rockstar still approved it to ship in its current state

[@HanSolo__]

@@trashcompactorYT Of course not. I think it shows only how much these games are owned by the company or maybe how much these are NOT OWNED by them. The developer puts a lot of effort and heart into such thing. If some would be still out there, they wouldn't allow for such disgrace with grotesque name "GTA Definitive Edition"

[@trashcompactorYT]

@@HanSolo__ yeah. Sadly most of the talent left Rockstar North before GTA V was finished which is why Rockstar now uses all studios to make every game instead of just RDR games

[@jays_jae]

That's kinda sad, That's my childhood right there... to this day, I haven't poured so many hours into a game like I did with GTA. And that's coming from an Arma 3 and Rust player

[@ukhedgehog-043-4]

All i can say, is that i'm not suprised by any of this, typical Rockstar move. They would probably do it again if they had any other good games to do this to. Also love the vid, keep it up.

[@mikeyg9958]

I think pirating is completely okay when there's no other legal way to receive a product.

[@vitorvena]

SAMP was pretty fun... i remenber like idk 6 years ago when i was absolutely INTO it and boi did i see some crazy things from battle royales, survival games, parkour, pvp arenas, zombies, role playing etc... I never even considered that on GTA V since i played GTA Online but maybe i should.

[@ashina2146]

Looking at Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, the Developers are like a pocket of fans who now works to make that Remaster. and the Age of Empires 2 HD can still be bought if people want to play it. Better yet the Definitive Edition pull the HD player into DE by making DE much more fun. this is probably just a coincidence, but if a Definitive Edition or Remaster locks the purchase of the original, there's some Shady stuff in it. One Example is Total War : Rome Remastered that locks the purchase of the Original and it goes super bad. While Age of Empires 3 Definitive Edition have some rough start but still allows people to buy the Original(even though for some reason the Original cost more than Definitive Edition), despite having some problem the developer tries to add more features in the game.

[@illdeletethismusic]

Age 3 was expensive when it was new, similar to 4 now it tried to keep up with the AAA trends of the time, higher resolution 3d graphics, 3d landscape, more streamlined gameplay but at the same time it introduced unwanted things like building position and unit composition restrictions and the mostly hated card system also, it was far too zoomed in, but had zoom out been allowed to a view like 1 and 2 have it would still look high enough resolution for today and fans weren"t happy with the worse ship destruction design of DE but original 3 gets the steepest discounts of the series, so at the right time it and 2 HD the cheapest

[@Dr.looksmaxxer]

Yeah age of empire III DE is still receive new content to this day

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

Dude, even EA let the original devs of C&C make their remaster AND ALSO LET THEM RELEASE THE FUCKING SOURCE CODE. Rockstar and T2 managed to be worse than fucking EA by a mile, this is bizarro world.

[@MarcB578]

Wow man… i am such a long time fan of GTA universe. And i knew about modder scene, but, sir, you made brilliant introduction about them, and what that community did for GTA. Wow. Pure love. No money. And then 2k monsters bashing them over the head for years. And then fast forward, to Definitive Edition. This is sickening.

[@apurpledragon]

As someone who enjoys modding and has made some texture mods in the past, it's really pathetic that Rockstar/TakeTwo took down fan projects, and delisted the original games because they were scared of modders who actually made the game better.

[@MagnaVash]

When Rockstar takes a play out of Blizzard's playbook. Grand Theft Auto Reforged.

[@omegacxv8344]

They could've payed the modders and would have gotten an amazing experience. If you look at what they did alone, imagine the potential with support of the official developer, but no, we got this monstrosity

[@mattguy1773]

This game is the reason why remasters of games are 9/10 times a bad idea

[@charlesblasini2134]

This game is the reason why we need to start using our dollars to tell companies that nothing less than a complete recreation is expected from remasters

[@AngelSonevski]

Not always tbh, some (Age of Empires 2 DE) are absolutely amazing and do so much to revive the game and its scene, but hey it seems Microsoft actually cared w that and Rockstar didn't with this, sad

[@aquelgamermexicano]

What's hilarious to me is that Take Two is going pretty hardcore on the modding community, to the point where they're so oblivious to the rest of the world around them. Not only are people finally realizing how shitty Rockstar has become and how they're just waiting for money to come no matter what, but it's probably EASIER to find cracks of the original PC releases, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL PIRACY SOURCES, than it might be to find mods of this trilogy.

[@SenpaiPlayz]

Fit-Girl repacks has a fan made definitive edition with the original games and all the good mods!

[@bendito999]

Thanks will have to look into it, I hope for much better definitive editions like that vs Rockstars.

[@chiefdan07]

Rockstar could literally hire these modders and release a GTA using their work. NOW that I would pay $60 to play on PS4

[@ilovetweek000]

Muta is like the gamers' representative, he says things that we want to say but are too afraid to.

[@sr.365]

Gamers truly are an oppressed minority

[@stockpistol]

No ones afraid it just pointless unless someone big does it

[@clashoclan3371]

We're not afraid to say it bruh, we just don't have influence.

[@Play4Keeepz]

Kinda cringe

[@arex531]

@@Play4Keeepz it is, he's talking like we are some sort of minority or opressed group.

[@Stooch]

any new player that wants to mod the original games is forced to pirate them, and our hopes of having our favorite games modernized are forever crushed

[@tamoghnapal6619]

I checked my NAS today , found these old mods (GTA Underground , etc) there.. I kept it when I organized my NAS an year ago , as I thought that if Rockstar decides to take down the old mods, I should atleast have a copy.. And I'm so happy now that I do

[@empiresix9722]

Rockstar remastering their old games: ✔💲🤑 Modders doing the same thing but better:❌💸😡

[@TheOne0816]

Silent is a hero among the gta modding scene.

[@KamyKam]

I think a petition or something should be started, this has gone to far

[@rytisliaucys3444]

People tend to forget that even Vice City has a rather active multiplayer: VC:MP. Oh, and on behalf of Muta: just go ahead and pirate the original games for PC. If they won't accept your money for it, then don't pay it :shrug:

[@SpDiablo]

I was actually planning to buy the "definitive" edition, but decided to wait and bought something else instead. Good thing I waited and saw how they were. Luckily, I still have the original ps2 versions of all 3 laying around. San Andreas is my favorite and I was looking forward to playing a remastered version too. I guess I can still go back and play the originals any time at least.

[@nabilsalih2898]

Modd em, trust me you won't regret it.

[@emperorfaiz]

You made a right decision.

[@accountnotfound4209]

@@arthurvice503 no thanks.

[@zerot480]

@@arthurvice503 Don't be a pirate for everything, ahole. It's okay to have those versions, at leats they're good

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

The character models in _GTA Definitive Edition_ looks like that one Coca Cola commercial.

[@agentice7718]

After seeing how the game plays practically identical to the original they could have used the rage

[@louisb.6149]

I’m so happy I got the OG rough cuts they slapped onto the PS4 store, not to mention my original PS2 copies

[@Shadowsoul2701]

This is exactly why I pirated GTA 5. Not because I'm broke, but because I only wanted to refuse take two the money they so desperately crave.

[@SC3Zero]

Those character models still get me everytime lmao

[@BrickFighter13]

It's a shame that Rockstar has become this.....remember around the GTA 4 era where they gave us two single player DLCs and actually put effort in trying to make the best DLC ever. What happened to that Rockstar

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

Remember when they spent the most money ever on GTA 5 singleplayer and abandoned it? Sometimes I don't get it man...

[@Gakusangi]

Let's face it, the games industry as a whole has been trying to snuff out the modding scene and capitalize on it for monetization for a while now. We saw it with Bethesda, and their games are almost entirely dependent on the support of their modding community at this point, even their new releases.

[@GuernseyDayne]

20:42 (Knock knock knock) FIB OPEN UP!!! You're under arrest for owning physical copies.

[@RedLegs13B.]

Yup, I'm a perfect example of the power of mods. I bought GTA 5 last year JUST for LSPDFR! I could care less about GTA 5's campaign or online.

[@JacobTheCroc]

I'm going to be very honest, all I wanted from this "Definitive" Edition was a fix for GTA 3 with the mission where you have to hit 10 objects within 6 minutes just showing where things are.