Bass Drum Rail Mount Shootout - Gilbraltar VS DW!

It is what it says! I test two different rail mounts to see which should be mounted to your bass drum!
But boy, how I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..!
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[@ralphbenites1312]

I totally agree with that railing mount system.they need to redesign it.and make it sturdy.

[@danschneider9921]

100% agree on the comment of people rattling on about how having anything on the kick drum does "this that and that and the other OMG shutter!" to the "resonance"- then they put a pillow and a muffled batter head on it.

[@RichardBonaduce]

Yeah! Unless they're in the studio and listening to an isolated track, I'll wager they couldn't tell the difference between a mounted or a virgin bass drum; and maybe not even then!

[@the_katman2181]

@@RichardBonaduce Exactly. It's like wine tasting. Cover the label up and see who can tell the south facing vineyard from the Hungarian oak barrel.

[@bennymalone]

I’m the same! I do not like a lot of cymbal stands! Loving having a direct ride stand on my kick drum!

[@stanarthur]

I just ordered the Ludwig no-drill model for my Big Beat Vistalite kit. Looking forward to it.

[@the_katman2181]

What a refreshing review. I also like the simplicity of your setup and letting the bass drum earn its board and lodging.

[@RichardBonaduce]

Yeah! I say something of that size needs to earn its keep!

[@marcgingergagne6701]

Great Video! Thanks for Sharing 😊

[@crlaw75]

Ringo had a rail mount, but like other British drummers, they customized their tom holders using the Rogers Swiv-O-Matic mounts.

[@HornManish]

My Gibraltar rail mount came with memory locks on both the rail and the L arm, AND, none of the adjustments slipped at all - it was rock solid!

[@RichardBonaduce]

NICE! Maybe they learned their lesson!

[@HornManish]

@@RichardBonaduce I bought it (UK) in 2017. I guess yours was later and they skipped the memory locks to save money?

[@RichardBonaduce]

@@HornManish Certainly could be!

[@1111Paiste]

I always wondered which rail mount was better. DW all the way there. Thanks for putting this together. The DW Bass Drum Cymbal Mount has memory locks all the way around. I have the DW Bass Drum Cymbal Mount and love it.

[@RichardBonaduce]

Although, I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..! www.indedrum.com/drum-upgrades-accessories/tomholder

[@RealEstateChris56]

13:15 for the win. Gigging musicians who know are the most efficient creatures. Have a studio kit and have a gig kit is you must.

[@silentskystudios]

Great review and comparison. Hope someone from Gibraltar sees this video! It would certainly be easy to rectify the shortcomings of their system to make it the better of the two!

[@RichardBonaduce]

Agreed! BUT... I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..! www.indedrum.com/ultralight-tom-holders/low-profile-drill-free-rail

[@paroc8590]

Tks Richard. It really helped me decide for the DW Vintage Drum Mount!

[@RichardBonaduce]

Thank you - BUT!!! But boy, how I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..! www.indedrum.com/ultralight-tom-holders/

[@paroc8590]

@@RichardBonaduce i saw this vídeo, but this system is too ugly!!! I prefer the real vintage style. Ludwig has the atlas system also, where its connected directly to the bass drum lugs, but it is also ugly!!!

[@pawelmorrison]

Great video Richard. I`m considering adding a rail to my Ludwigs and was thinking of the Gibraltar, but youre right with the dw one being better bang for the money. I have the Gibraltar cymbal mount already too. It's great aestheticly and saves me a lot of carry weight for a seperate stand. I`ve never had any issues with it sliding in the mount whilst playing to be honest and I play a 24" ride cymbal.

[@RichardBonaduce]

Good to know about it *not sliding around in the mount. BUT - I wish I had seen THIS before making that video..! www.indedrum.com/drum-upgrades-accessories/tomholder

[@DrumPhil-ss7wn]

It's goddamn refreshing to hear another drummer minimizing as much as possible, and just wants to set up as quickly as possible. Great video. Aside from the snare, hi-hat, and throne stands, if I can have no stands at all, that's the way for me! I just got the new Gibraltar stealth docking station. I wish that just the U-bar could be permanently attached to the bass drum (the whole station to be memorized). Ya know... sorta like the rail, but just a tad longer. My ride, 2 crashes, and toms are all mounted in this one space. I LOVE it!! It's all good, though. Hey, just a thought... if the dw and Gibraltar rail is the same thickness, you could use the dw for the grip fir the rest of the Gibraltar. 😃

[@DarrenMcGill442]

Love the rail mount. I'm just really worried about drilling into my gorgeous virgin USA custom bass drum 😟

[@RichardBonaduce]

Measure three times; cut once!

[@musicalala]

The coolest one had a rolling feature(forwards and back). Forget manufacturer but that's the ultimate one. Expensive tho. I don't know if it had sealed bearings or how it slid.

[@jonathanbrody4119]

It is really nice looking making me think doing this on old set but yes good point they Should’ve had that piece gnarled or something so it doesn’t creep forward

[@RichardBonaduce]

But I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..! www.indedrum.com/ultralight-tom-holders/low-profile-drill-free-rail

[@davidknibbs9646]

Good job and information it helps

[@thomasnappo6309]

Good job...looks good

[@HarryJoiner]

Phenomenally helpful. 🙏🍻

[@randallbrack2130]

A memory lock system and knurling on Plain smooth pipe to create a grabbing surface is very important

[@RichardBonaduce]

I totally agree!

[@rickb7378]

I know it's been a while since you did this, but I was wondering how solid this is because I've seen a video showing the Inde mount that you mentioned below and it looks like the tom is bouncing quite a bit as it's being played.

[@Prizmatic1658]

Cool.. ive never seen a rail mount.

[@cyberbandleipzigjams4493]

Thanks for making this comparison! I have the Gibraltar on my 22" bass drum and love it, never missed any memory locks to be honest and the mount stays perfectly on the rail without tilting ... But wow, the pricepoint of 55$ in the US surprised me, in Germany you'll have to pay nearly double. Also the DW rail is a bit cheaper here, but not much. Unfortunately the Gibraltar rail does not seem to fit on an 18" bass drum, do you know something about that? And may I ask you for the minimum and maximum holespacing of the mounting screws of the DW rail? It's possible to adjust the screw's distance to taste, am I right? This would be a great help! I'm builing a set with an 18° bass drum and already ordered another Gibraltar rail ... but now found out that the possibility is quite high it won't work on the bassdrum. So let's hope the DW will do ... unless I like the look and features of the Gibraltar a bit more. Cheers!

[@RichardBonaduce]

Hi! Thanks for watching! I’m glad the Gibraltar worked out for you! But I suggest you check this out before you do anything else? I wish I’d known about it before I bought *either the Gibraltar or the DW! www.indedrum.com/drum-upgrades-accessories/tomholder

[@cyberbandleipzigjams4493]

@@RichardBonaduce Yes, the indé stuff seems to be very cool, lightweight and innovative. I definitely keep them in mind. At the moment they are not available at re-sellers in Germany. I hope this changes someday or when I have enough money I'll put a big order from the US and get some of their hardware parts.

[@cyberbandleipzigjams4493]

@@RichardBonaduce By the way: I really like the way you make fun of those "drum purists" who wouldn't drill a hole or two in a bass drum but stick pillows in bass drums. :-D great!

[@RichardBonaduce]

@@cyberbandleipzigjams4493 Seriously, you should try writing them directly through their website. They seem eager and very accommodating; they may be able to get you one, themselves!

[@RichardBonaduce]

@@cyberbandleipzigjams4493 Yeah! Unless they're in the studio and listening to an isolated track, I'll wager they couldn't tell the difference between a mounted or a virgin bass drum; and maybe not even then!

[@henrikostensson1160]

Would it be possible to put the best parts of them together? Are the rails of the same diameter?

[@RichardBonaduce]

I don't know.. but I'd buy THIS instead! www.indedrum.com/ultralight-tom-holders/low-profile-drill-free-rail

[@yeyeyeyeyyoooyoyooooyooo7342]

i noticed u have the bass drum ride extention. when u use a bigger ride like 22 inch does up bass drum pedal not vibrate?

[@RichardBonaduce]

I'm not sure what you mean, but I'm going to take a guess... By "bass drum ride extention" do you mean that I've mounted my ride cymbal off of the bass drum? Then, yes I did..! And by "does up bass drum pedal not vibrate?", do you mean that when I play the bass drum, doesn't it cause a sympathetic vibration with either the ride and/or my tom (which I also have mounted from the bass drum).., if that's what you mean, then sure it does! A tiny bit, yes. But since I'm not in a studio with isolation and mics all over, it doesn't matter to me. The convenience outweighs and minute sympathetic vibration my bass drum confers to things mounted to it.

[@yeyeyeyeyyoooyoyooooyooo7342]

@@RichardBonaduce I just meant went you played the ride does it vibrate your bass drum pedal but you explained perfectly thank you

[@dye182]

Couldn’t you just angle the main post towards you? Then adjust the lrod accordingly?

[@RichardBonaduce]

I'm sure what issue you're addressing?

[@RichardBonaduce]

Boy, I wish I had seen THIS before making this video..! www.indedrum.com/ultralight-tom-holders/low-profile-drill-free-rail

[@richieluckenbill1590]

Where did you get memory locks that fit the cymbal arm and what size?

[@RichardBonaduce]

Sadly, I'm not sure! I have a box of various parts gathered over the years and multiple brands of drums, and I just found something that generally fit among them! But guaranteed DW or Gibraltar's sites have them in there, somewhere!

[@mikekelly9851]

I like the bass drum mounted cymbal holder. Ringo didn't use one.

[@RichardBonaduce]

True! But he did use a rail mount for the tom.

[@hamadbernes1980]

You are right-- dont see this video if yu don´t like bass drum rail monted toms ....... Nice drum set... one more suscriber... That is a pdp drum set? look so fine.

[@RichardBonaduce]

Yes, it's a PDP Platinum... that is also for sale! facebook.com/marketplace/item/1052941972201224

[@jimbo7051]

It's called knurling

[@TimSuliman]

The mounting bolts on the Gibraltar aren't adjustable, either.

[@RichardBonaduce]

You mean to adjust so that it mounts into pre-drilled holes..?

[@stevemalouf8009]

Ludwig makes a great one..no drilling

[@beatleszilla]

I also don’t like DW’s big ugly black plastic/rubber levers the use on stands/mounts. That’s another thing turning me off on the DW

[@RichardBonaduce]

Too bad, because they are excellent. Watch the video and you'll see how they actually WORK.