ROEHL Transportation | I Hate Being A Company Driver!

[@deebly_goncerned]

I've been with Schneider for just under 3 years. Been with them since the beginning of my career as a rookie driver. Over the past 6 months I've started souring on them. But I'm also pessimistic and am convinced all mega carriers are exactly the same. I'm going to Walmart orientation in a couple weeks anyway so hopefully that works out and can put the mega carriers behind me.

[@jasonbailey5454]

Been with roehl 5 years now. I have complaints believe me, but its not a bad company. They always get me home when i want. The micromanagement ends once they know they can trust u. My inside camera is off and i dont take pics of loads. If u dont like your dispatcher request another one. I went thru several before i got one i liked. If u think schneider or jb hunt is the answer then maybe trucking simply isnt for u. Best of luck whatever u do

[@KILRtv]

As a driver, you're expecting something that you'll most likely not get. Outward cameras are to cover your butt. Inward is definitely invasion. The message about leaving a paved surface is definitely stupid. There are tons of places that aren't paved, and you can't avoid them. As far as Lease Purchase, it's not a good idea. The company controls your success and hours. And people are right, you are not an owner operator. You don't own the truck, and you can't take it to another company until you do. You are basically a Company Driver with all the expenses and risks on you. I think Roehl has APU's in their trucks, and that's why the payments are expensive. If you run out of hours, do a Split Sleeper Berth. You'll get hours back. PC also works as long as you don't abuse it. And yes, planners and dispatchers do have power over you. If you piss them off, they'll start giving you crappy loads or make you wait and tell you that's all they have. You have no way to verify unless you have access to the load board. Is it right? No, but there is little you can do about it. Trucking sucks. You have to adapt or find something else. Hate to say it. No bathroom, showers, or food? Adapt. You can sponge bath. Bring non refrigerated food. You have to look after you. They won't. That said, you have to look at the positives. You've got freedom on the road, you can see different things, and take time off in places you wouldn't normally be able to. Going from one mega carrier to another is like expecting the grass to be greener. As far as being Lease Operator, you answered your own question. As a company driver, you are getting the same pay, you've got benefits, and you don't have to stress about payments, fuel, or repairs. Never lease from a company. Do it on your own through a 3rd Party. You then have the power to take that truck somewhere else. Whatever happens, I wish you the best.

[@KILRtv]

Oh yeah, stay away from Super Ego.

[@formertrackstar703]

People who lease to purchase are the same people who buy a $500 tv at rent a center and end up paying 2 grand for it in the end. And then try to justify it.

[@markvaars37]

Roehl transport is good if you need training the training is awesome but the company itself sucks!!! Everything from dispatchers, planners, mechanics and upper management is terrible and don't forget the micro management telling you where to fuel, how much to get, what route to take and sometimes even telling you when to drive or where to park. I hated them as a full time driver once training was over

[@Hope-Solos-Darkstar]

Can confirm this. There are a few exceptions to the dispatch and mechanics but it’s a generally true statement.

[@markvaars37]

@thomaskirkpatrick4031 I ha e mo idea maybe that's rhe one company that would hire him? I was there in 2015 into 2016 and it was God awful. It's a starter company

[@MidlifeTrucker-ThomBell]

Back of the napkin math - a new truck is $185k plus. If you divide that by 156 weeks (3 years) even with 0% interest, that’s $1185 per week not including any insurance or fees.

[@russellfreightservicesllc8571]

I’m a owner operator I’m buying a 22 Pete 579 it had 234k miles on it I got 6year 600k miles on all major components I’m paying it off April a year and a half early paying 1,725 a month

[@AkimboPickles2]

@russellfreightservicesllc8571 right, lonemountain is a company that is now working with schneider to get drivers into trucks with a monthly payment instead of the weekly leasing option

[@coreyekum1972]

Through Pedigree? Prime

[@russellfreightservicesllc8571]

@ no

[@PrinceGT-vy3fj]

There are other drivers complaining about Rhoel too it must really be a real sht company

[@KILRtv]

Sad. That was going to be the company I was going to start with a few years ago. Glad I didn't.

[@JerseyBoy18]

We have a guy who recently was with Rohel company driver he was getting screwed on $$ so he left

[@godsok1]

A lot of difference between lease and owner op!

[@polodatrucker]

Name them

[@godsok1]

@@polodatrucker how fast your truck can go. Whose name is on the door what loads you take. What if any modifications you make to the truck. Probably a lot more I’m not saying a lease is a bad thing I’ve done 4 or 5 in the last 32 years but it’s not the same as buying the truck your not coming up with 20% down it’s there truck until that last payment. You could say the finance company owns my truck till the last payment but it’s just not the same

[@KILRtv]

​@@godsok1, you are right. If you lease or purchase outside of the company, then YOU can take that truck somewhere else if the company isn't working out.

[@wantsanewvehicle]

I have not watched this video yet.. but, I have a friend who went through roehl training for his class A cdl, he passed and everything and went out with somebody for almost 2 weeks. Then he stopped going and quit, he claimed that his reasoning was "because I would be away from home too much. I was told I'd be home every weekend but now I'm finding out might not be home for months at a time". I dunno, I think there is much more to it than that, unless he really expected to be home every weekend which I dunno how he thought that was going to happen being OTR. He's a single guy with nothing holding him at home, so I don't see what the big deal was. Oh well.

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@wantsanewvehicle regional can be home every weekend, but why would you want to? He would make more money staying out at least 2 weeks at a time.

[@wantsanewvehicle]

@@AkimboPickles2 Yup yup. I believe he was supposed to be OTR though not even regional. I don't know.. he doesn't seem to keep jobs very long. I've known him for almost 4 years now- we used to work at the same place. He quit there and went to another place (but doing the same thing), quit there after 4 months and went somewhere else doing the same thing, quit there and went to roehl, quit there and went back to the 2nd place he was at, quit there and went to another place doing something slightly different, quit there and now he's back at the 2nd place again. Always claims that he's told his job will be x, y, z and it never is so that's why he leaves. If they 'lied to you' the first time, why go back- it won't be any different this time around. He has his class A now, but since he didn't stay with roehl I'm sure he had to pay for the training and such? so what was the point.

[@roninroy81]

I left Roehl after a month. To hell with them.

[@joeljenkins2876]

I just finished watching a video from another poor soul who went to work for Roehl, only to be unceremoniously dumped after roughly 2 months. He said that, whether you get fired, or quit, Roehl charges you $7k, and they don't care whether you can pay it or not. Shameful

[@Karoke77]

I have 29 years working for the government. I can retire in 8 months. I have had a blast. 20 years US Army. 9 years for a state government. I also held numerous jobs for short periods working for companies. It SUCKED. Government workers get pensions also. Tell your kids to get government jobs. They can retire as millionaires (pension and 401k/457 and social security).

[@TC2020-w8u]

Never be an owner operator for a company with company drivers

[@royanderson1429]

I was an unpaid Trainee for three months... They kicked me out of the truck in Des Moines IA I lived in Upper Peninsula Michigan. The only job I ever had where I didn't make one dime.

[@AkimboPickles2]

wow

[@kevinkwiatkowski7197]

It would be a mistake to go to JB, i know, i worked 3 times couldn't make any money there

[@drzzy8552]

Must be a new driver in the industry 😂

[@KILRtv]

He mentioned he was with a previous company. So, he's not new new. He's venting, and I get it. Also, he could be addressing those not in trucking of what to expect. Those of us who are in or were already know. He's preaching to the choir. Trucking sucks. It won't get better. You have to accept and adapt or get out.

[@drzzy8552]

@@KILRtv are you a driver yourself? Just because you drove a couple doesn’t mean your experience. Still a new driver in the game. It doesn’t suck at all. You’re just a miserable human being who should give it up or in your last sentence “accept and adapt” These beginner companies are going to treat like turd. Stop crying as an adult lol

[@Gengingen]

That’s a roach-coach in my world. 😊

[@chiefcarterphillipines]

Get max cpm otr, or max hourly pay local you can. Put all the risk, i.e. fuel, truck payment, maintenance and slow freight on company, imo😊

[@Hydrostream1972]

Kwik trip plastic bags are the best poop 💩 bags. 😊😊😊😊 always gets the job done. 😊😊😊

[@cotjocky466]

I've not watched any of your previous videos so I don't know your back story. To the point... "Why" do you "hate" being a company driver? I'm trying to figure out if it is the companies you have been working for and their asinine rules that you "hate" or some ego issue about not being your own boss? I see you have worked for a bunch of larger companies and in my opinion... that is probably your problem. Almost all large companies suck. Some small companies suck too, but there is where you will have your most freedom. You will deal with "people", not a random person in a "department" you will never see in real life. What is your actual goal? Are you simply trying to maximize your money or do you want to own a truck? Is making the best money the most important or is owning a truck your biggest goal? It's one or the other, not both. You need to realize, if you have zero money and you buy a $200K truck, you are gonna work 10+ months out of the year for 3 to 4 years to stay ahead of the payments. If any thing (health or family issue) takes you off the road for a few weeks and you'll be so far behind you can't recover. All your work is for nothing. They get the truck back and you get nothing. It's intentional. These big carriers want you hauling as much of their freight as possible. There goal is to have you hauling their freight and making them a profit. Some places like SFI and Prime, if they can make money on selling you a truck, not paying part of your payroll taxes or having to provide you any personal insurances is just added benefit. If you complete the lease, you might take that truck elsewhere. Some people successfully complete the lease, it is possible, but the high majority don't. Or they opt to restart a new lease as opposed to finaincing a $90K balloon payment on a truck worth $60K on the regular market and have zero factory warranty while making those finainced payments and risk a expensive breakdown. I work for a great company. We have 50-100 trucks. Might not be the company for you. I get left alone and make decent money and go home when I say I want to go home. I don't have to "earn" time off. There is no in truck messaging system. I get no messages about my outward facing camera or my driving. We use GEO Tab. We have a weather/traffic exemption button that extends your 11/14 by 2 hours. If you get in a bind, you can use it, no questions will be asked. Our PC is not limited nor will you get questioned about it unless you are OBVIOUSLY using it to deliver the load and not your personal reasons. We use Pilot/Flying J with no set fuel solution. Fuel when and where you want. We have no set route. You aren't given a route. The route you take is entirely your choice. We have unlimited truck washes with Blue Beacon. You wash it when and where you want. It's hard to imagine me going to work for anyone else due to the freedom I have. I only care about freedom and money. I have no concern with being a "owner" of equipment. It's all limited time use plastic disposable junk. It's not 1995 anymore. Most of us aren't driving the same truck for 20+ years anymore. 500K to 1Million miles and it's off to the scrap yard. Most trucks with 300-400K sell for 1/4 of what they did when new 3-4 years prior. Modern used trucks have almost zero value. Once again I ask... What do you want? What is your ultimate goal? I personally want to pay off all my bills, save up a small nest egg and get OUT of trucking. Trucking is a means to my finacial freedom. And in the process, I don't want to be camera "coached" or have to deal with stupid policies while I'm out here. Leave me alone and pay me!

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@cotjocky466 all the above

[@cotjocky466]

@@AkimboPickles2 Well, the I don't have any answer for that one. I've seen no "both" option. If you're broke and want a truck, you're gonna do "the man's" bidding and play his games for years with no personal time until you can say that worn out plastic piece of shit is all yours. Breakdowns and all. The "money" aspect will come many years later, possibly never. I don't know many owner ops that are making a lot of money that aren't specialized and built up a ton of capital to be idle in bad times and bust their ass in the good times. Most O/O's I know just "get by". Good luck to you.

[@paullandreville5394]

I enjoyed your reply. Good honest advice. Work sucks in general. I was a factory worker. Never made enough to not worry every month. With my wife not working and 2 children, I qualified for free school lunch. I took a second job instead. Worked 50 years, 15 - 65 yo. Just retired. The body is shot, but I made it. 🇺🇸

[@KILRtv]

Based.

[@chiefstonergaming]

ATS

[@AshleyBoehme]

Owner operator is the way for you. Big companies are going to monitor, look for more efficiency, and learn from previous mistakes made by all drivers. It is not going to get better with big companies.

[@ogmadmax9219]

Need to go to a small mom and pops truck company i work for one called putnam trucking they are a good company just wish they had newer trucks

[@dubMittelJ]

Oh yeah, you should definitely leave Roehl, but not because it's a bad company. From what it sounds like, you've been driving for a while, and you're an adult. But Roehl sounds like it's a starter company that doesn't treat drivers like adults, because they probably have a ton of new, and young drivers. So they micromanage everyone. I guess I would recommend finding a company that isn't so 'hand holdy'? I've been driving since 2012 and definitely couldn't go back to the lower levels of trucking. After 5 years of trucking, most people can go lease operator, because they know what they're doing, and know how the business works. The only problem is that the rate of pay for lease oping only covers the cost to operate a business right now. And I'm not trying to bring home less money than a company driver after taxes and expenses.

[@karlbonnette7476]

Welcome to 1984. There's no "Golden Ticket" in trucking, from what I've seen (been on off since 1997). As in, you're going to have to "jump in" and commit to either company driver or OO. You will recieve you're "lumps" one way or the other. You have to use simple logic. How many Successful OO have you encountered? I suspect, not many. There's a reaon for that. Good luck. God Bless. And always try to stay ahead of the curve.

[@Hope-Solos-Darkstar]

I know a quite a few but I live in a town with a refinery and they lease their truck onto one of the companies that pull out of there. My paps has been an O/O since 99 doing it.

[@Skullitor]

New subscriber 🎉

[@GRUBB-MUDD]

I'm from Indiana and I'm here and all sorts of good things about that roll trucking😂😂😂😂😂😂 not

[@johnwolf1475]

what does it take to geta glider kit to avoid the emissions requirments- dont it save tens of thousands of dollars?

[@michaelsollberger6744]

I know a guy drove for Rohel said this company is corrupt as hell. They don't give a shit about there drivers. They take as much money they can from your pay

[@johnson35091]

Don’t lease with them I was a lease driver for them and 1 small breakdown left me without pay for a month

[@Steve.Cutler]

Never lease from the company you run for.

[@Cp3659]

Don’t be an owner op because that is the norm these days with getting parts.

[@KILRtv]

Agreed on all points. It's a bad idea. It benefits them more than the driver.

[@WinZard]

Operator denotes authority to haul freight. Without a mc and dot# you do not have authority to haul freight. So no your not a operator without that authority. Even if you own your truck. You will be an independent contractor. Why the industry like to call everyone an owner operator is just weird.

[@mr.wizard6891]

Why would you ever lease from a giant company?

[@Gearswapper]

40 yrs retired from industry now. All I can say is you guys are nuts to be in a truck today. The entire industry absolutely sucks now. You much better off working a full time job home at night. I don’t see nothing but idiots in these trucks today. Im so thankful I got to drive in the golden years , cause it’s a joke today..

[@johnwolf1475]

but schneider dont want to pay either-

[@staceysingh-ly7wl]

Trucking aint easy if you have can you can find another carrier there out there please look they are out there don't wait till the last minute do the work online

[@b_moneygo4515]

Stay company save up and go get a truck. I lease with stevens 2015-2018. I think it's better to really save maybe 20k and then start your own business.

[@KILRtv]

Assuming you can save enough. If you have no family or other commitments, then yes.

[@michael_horsley]

I ride public transit, and a driver told me they're tracked so closely that if they're in the wrong lane, administration knows. They're supposed to be in a certain lane at certain locations along the route, tracked.

[@mikehiggins6759]

@michael_horsley they been tracking trucks for over 30 years. They have to half the driver's out there should not be behind the wheel of a big truck. This is no joke people that second truck was a farm truck immigrant driving they are unskilled drivers 🙄

[@scottreal7787]

I once drove from Modesto, California to Bangor, Maine in 13 hours non stop. Carrying a load of bologna and horse manure.

[@mikehiggins6759]

@@scottreal7787 🤣🙄👎

[@joerubalcava11]

I think that your problem is you keep going to these mega trucking Companies that all suck. Do some real research to find out who are the good companies then apply at those companies. If you have a clean driving record you should have no problem getting a good job. Have some confidence in yourself .

[@TC2020-w8u]

Why do people leasr? Bad credit?

[@mikehiggins6759]

Schneider and jb ain't the answer friend this is no time to be lease driver dont fricken do it people. Pennies on the dollar whatever. Good luck friend you gonna need it.

[@KILRtv]

My thoughts exactly.

[@thomassuhadolnik8027]

Rohel is a training company so they treat you as such ask me how I know LOL I drove for JB for a while on the wall mart dedicated it was fine until I got a new dispatcher as in new to the game so i left believe it or not I got between 3500 to 4000 Mi in a 62 mph truck but that was on log books The best Co I worked for was a small co they let you run as much as you wanted but they got bought out by P.A.M. I quit driving in late 99 Good luck to you Don’t lease

[@thomascrowley9403]

If you want to be an owner go finance one. Beware, know what you're doing first. Dont even think about leasing from any major carrier. The only trucks they lease are ones with a few miles on them, usually cant get good fuel mileage out of them. Go find a small mom and pop trucking company. They are all over. Get away from the major carriers until you have enough experience to know whats going on. If you can get a local driving job, even if you have to use a hand truck or pallet jack, do it.

[@TC2020-w8u]

Or. They compared your GPS to Google earth.

[@infinitedarkmind8864]

Cut your loss and go buy your own company drive with a goal in mind bro. Any other way and your asking for headaches, GET YOUR OWN TRUCK OR SAVE UNTIL YOU CAN TRUST WHEN I TELL YOU'LL THANK ME LATER

[@jerrodg938]

All these companies sorry! Trucking industry should have handled ther business and the government wouldn't have had to get involved

[@coolbreezesl]

I'd rather pay $1600 a week than deal with that micromanagement.

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@coolbreezesl right lol

[@Nova-m8d]

I don't know who's got you upset but my advice is stop crying.

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@Nova-m8d your mom

[@Nova-m8d]

@@AkimboPickles2 Look, you need to pick yourself up, man up, alright? you will win this in the end. It's all about heart and character. Be your best self.

[@Monster_2_82]

he's plugged up, he needs to poop 💩 more

[@Dublifesta]

Hey man roehl did me so shitty I have been doing great since I left there good luck to your future

[@Kevv_99]

@@Dublifestaout of curiosity, what is it they did? Got a buddy in orientation with them…

[@jakaramoore523]

I like Schneider

[@johnsheodon1554]

You will never own a truck working for those people

[@ericdadriver2293]

It’s only illegal if you get caught

[@33mendoza1]

Prime lease purchase $14,000 down they give you $1,000 credit where every year seniority with the limit of 8,000.... Payments are still weekly but you can stretch least purchase to 4 years to lower payments

[@chakagillis]

I'd hate driving a piece of crap freightliner 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@michaelscordo256]

Raaaaauuuuuuulllll Transport!!!

[@hisinvisibleness-fn8qj]

So you dont have to make payments and still same money Why are you complaining

[@KILRtv]

And no risks. Exactly the reason he should stay Company.

[@412hwc]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 man u post to start off at roehl, not go to roehl from another company. anyways its a shitty company pay wise and micro managment buuuut anyways. idk how much experience u got but i got a dope ass company for you man.

[@AkimboPickles2]

@412hwc well say it man, don't spray it lol

[@412hwc]

@ do you have a g mail bro? i want to send u pay stubs so u kno its legit.

[@AkimboPickles2]

@ [e-mail]

[@JasonWilliams4959]

Message me, I can get you on with Hirschbach

[@769270865]

Go back to company driver this time.... I don't see how can you make any time worth money as owner operator let along lease operator unless you are specialized.... By that I mean... Heavy haul, over size over weight, events transport, hazmat, tanker.

[@Toughluv]

That message was for everyone

[@cutliss]

Go LTL

[@cb4176]

Sounds like trucking isn't for you

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@cb4176 being micromanaged isn’t trucking lol

[@martynasmacerauskas2944]

@@AkimboPickles2 how many companies you need to try to realize that trucking isn’t for you? You act like you know it all but yet you still don’t have your own trucks or even a truck but you claim to know how to run a trucking business lol

[@KILRtv]

He just needs to adapt. It might be for him, but he needs to accept that this is just how it is.

[@hondacivic199091]

Boo hoo stop leave go somewhere else I'm 54 years old been driving since I was 16 just retired this year you don't like it leave an guess what it's still there truck an they will watch them cameras

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@hondacivic199091 wow do yourself a favor and go back to school cause I didn’t understand a word you wrote

[@KILRtv]

​@AkimboPickles2 , I understood just fine, and he's right. I would've been nicer about it, but he's on point. We are trying to help you. There are a lot of people here that have excellent points. I know you are venting. I've been there. I get it. You have bad days and great days. Times you hate trucking and times you'll love it.

[@BOBBYCOOPER-z4k]

I'm supposed to be starting at rail trucking should I?

[@AkimboPickles2]

@@BOBBYCOOPER-z4k don’t do it, I would recommend Schneider as a new driver.

[@fjbfhb5017]

Cut my engine cut my hours cut my money only driver service get out while you can if yo uhh can awfull job