Roger Mortimer: The VERY Naughty Medieval Earl...

[@sarah82ish]

Roger Mortimer was a legend. I’m from Cardiff south Wales. In Cardiff castle Hugh dispenser coat of arms is upstairs down because he brought shame to his family. The dispenser family were hated. They had fancy banquets while the peasants starved. I love Isobella. What a woman! You could do a video on her alone. Please do one just on her, and Henry II wife Eleanor of Aquitaine. Both of them were incredible women even more so considering the time of history they lived in. The fact Isobella put herself in harms way for her husband on many occasions and he treated her terribly. Taking her kids from her putting them in the care of dispensers wife, then begging her to go to France to smooth things over with her brother, then to turn the tables on Edward. I don’t blame her for rebelling against him. The classic woman scorned comes to mind.

[@wesleycritchett1591]

All together now everybody: "He's not an Earl, he's a very naughty boy!"

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

I'm writing a medieval story, The thing about Medieval times is there is no shortage of weird stories to take inspiration from, Especially the Erfurt disaster

[@orchidorio]

July 26 1184. Unimaginable !

[@travisinthetrunk]

Just looked that up and I now have a new phobia.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

​@@travisinthetrunkquite smelly, terrible way to go out

[@deborahberger5816]

Good for you! Historical fiction is fun to read, but it's more fun to write.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

​@@deborahberger5816 definitely

[@mlfett6307]

That painting you showed when discussing the young Edward III was actually the son of Henry VIII - Edward VI.

[@loganstroganoff1284]

No it wasn't

[@petebondurant58]

@@loganstroganoff1284 At the roughly 10:20 mark, the portrait shown is clearly that of Edward VI (1537 -1553)

[@jeanglendinning1860]

@@loganstroganoff1284 Its definately Edward V1, you can tell by the Tudor clothing

[@Loki_stars]

I was first introduced to your channel as a way of learning more about medieval times for a test. Now I’m completely hooked on your channel! Keep up the amazing work!

[@JohnDoe-yq9rt]

Thanks

[@bethwilliams4903]

What finished the relationship between Mortimer and ‘young’ Edward III is both Mortimer and Isabella had encouraged the young king to marry his chosen Hainault bride - once he did so Edward duly got her with child and that ‘young’ king was now a father with HIS own heir and chaffing at being stuck in the nursery of his mother’s plans. Edward III also had a group of equally young and ambitious friends, who, with the coup, became his lifelong ‘new’ men, his made men. They were a phalanx of both protection and courtiers, and soon the idea to wrest his country - HIS rightful country (ie France) beckoned. Mortimer and Isabella in many ways were passe, they belonged to an era that had passed - the very day Edward III had his own heir AND the crown was ruin for his mother’s plans - and she did have other children - but the genie was out of the bottle. England under Edward III would fling themselves headlong into the French Wars which went on, with a couple lulls, until they were finally forced to accept utter and total defeat by the French in 1453. As for Mortimer, anyone who was anyone in England, then, and for centuries afterwards, Carrie’s his DNA.

[@warwick936]

I worked at Nottingham Castle and we told the story of Rodger Mortimer and gave tours in the cave Edward III used to sneak into the castle and take Mortimer prisoner and dragged him down the cave. It’s called Mortimers Hole, I suggest everyone to come and see at Nottingham Castle! 😊

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Roger Mortimer was a man who lived life on the edge in the fastlane, He was a man that lived for the thrill

[@orchidorio]

Makes me wonder what his life was like. Smart guy, with resources. So what was that like in the flesh? Dude had a lot of fun in the Middle Ages. Funny.

[@ExploringSagas]

Again, these videos are probably as good as it gets. Truly an inspiration for myself and my own videos! You must be an entire team? Right? Right...?

[@deborahberger5816]

I'd like to know what kind of drug knocks men out for two days without harming any of them. Is it recorded anywhere in the historical record?

[@krisfinley6706]

There couldn't have been too many things available in that time and area, maybe some type of nightshade or valerian?

[@deborahberger5816]

I think you're right. However, when I first saw your reply, I read "some type of nightshade or valium." That would have worked.

[@teodorugabriel2175]

banewort or poppy seeds

[@deborahberger5816]

Thank you. I have some research to do!

[@rridderbusch518]

[CC] "...the *dispenser* family" 🤣🤣🤣

[@shellydesormier4646]

That’s 🌱 how the descendants of the family make their living... 🐚🌸

[@JoyWelling-k6g]

Holy crap you just blew my mind. I thought the Spencer's were just around after the Duke of Marlboro whoa

[@charlieputhstan]

Roger Mortimer was my paternal 20th great-grandfather. I absolutely loved this video & am a new subscriber, from your American watcher in New Jersey, USA.

[@amyw.watson879]

I love MM! My fave KZbin narrator!

[@KeithRingo]

As a born and bread Irishman, I suspect we lead him astray during his time with us lol

[@allenvestal4474]

Can you imagine having sex during this era? People were filthy and smelled bad. I guess hormones overcame this, or a lot of us would not be here today.

[@-Thauma-]

What are you talking about? People are still filthy and smell bad ☹️

[@scallopohare9431]

Well, brothels were called "stews" for their hot tubs, so those customers got double service.

[@Casper_the_Mechanic]

Can you even imagine having sex 😅

[@louthegiantcookie]

He's my favourite figure from English history! His story is almost straight out of fiction. To go from a loyal Knight of the King, to a revolutionary invading his own homeland, to essentially a dictator who few seemed to mourn. Mortimer lived long enough to become the villain - but what a life he led! I wish more people knew of him.

[@flapjackfae]

What the hell drug did they have that could put people to sleep for two entire days? And where can I get some?

[@CAROLUSPRIMA]

I was somehow under the impression that Mortimer was forcibly taken from Warrick by Lancaster and executed. Mortimer had surrendered to Warrick upon being promised he wouldn’t be harmed. But it’s been a long time since I read this so I’m not certain.

[@boogiesmell5181]

You're thinking about Gaveston, that's exactly what happened to him. For this reason Lancaster was later executed in a very similar way.

[@CAROLUSPRIMA]

@@boogiesmell5181 Yes. Thanks for straightening that out for me.

[@chrislemery8178]

You are doing good with this channel, but you need to slow down! Way too often in your videos I have to backtrack sometimes several times just to hear and decipher what the heck you just said. You get going quickly and your words all slur in together. Please consider it. This happens a lot. This video is a run on sentence, interesting content I can't even watch.

[@augustbliss]

The U.S. House of Reps proudly displays a bust of Simon de Montfort for (their) "democracy."

[@deborahberger5816]

What?!! I'm going to look at this as soon as the video is over.

[@augustbliss]

@@deborahberger5816 yep, little known facts...

[@boogiesmell5181]

Very good and objective video! Most videos about Edward II, Isabella and Mortimer are quite subjective and untruthful, whereas I was glad to see MM omitting the blatant falsehoods that still circulate. Mortimer may have been a bit naughty, but there's no evidence of him having any passionate love affair with Isabella. He was pretty damn stupid though, as he didn't learn anything from Gavestons or Despensers mistakes but foolishly repeated them as the new favourite of the monarch. He would pay the same price as those predecessors. Should really have seen it coming, but he was at heart nothing more than a power hungry and vindictive marcher Lord. History repeats itself to those who are unable to learn from it.

[@louthegiantcookie]

The story of Roger in France threatening Isabella if she backed out of his plan to invade England certainly lends itself more to their relationship being an alliance of political convenience than anything else. Physical intimacy aside, this was not a love story as you say, more like a common enemy drawing them together.

[@yoptastic8463]

Happy New Year to you and yours M.M. and thank you so much for covering this particular medieval subject as it is one of my favourites but I'm not proficient enough to remember exactly who plays what role in this Royal scandal, so I'm glad that you've covered it in a way better than I could put together and I just want to say how much I enjoy this channel and look forward to these and the Walk The Plank ones you do every week both of which I always watch avidly.😊👍❤🎆🎉⚔🏹🛡

[@kevinsayes]

This isn’t what the story is about, but it’s just wild that this fact (among many other common sense items) sits right in front of us and in the west, no one seems to give it a second thought. That is, the Greeks, for instance, made all manner of intelligent guesses about how the everything works, even pondering atoms. Then Christianity rears it’s ugly head in and for, what, 17-1800 years we were essentially dealing with this kind of ass-backward, uninterested in being correct about seemingly anything, and cruel society? Until the renaissance at least.

[@ahinds100]

That was an enjoyable and fascinating history lesson. Thank you!

[@craigbenz4835]

After 12 kids in 19 years with his wife Joan, who was his own age, he trades her in for Isabella nine years his junior. Amazingly all the kids lived to adulthood.

[@Nathanfx2006]

Im outraged youtube isn't putting your videos in my Subscriptions tab... at least i got a few to catch up on

[@murkyseb]

Any relation to bob Mortimer ?

[@deniseroe5891]

Aah, my 20th great grand dad. Feisty guy.

[@rivermoon6190]

What branch are you from because he is on our family line too? I’m from the de Burgh line. Roger’s grandma is on my line.

[@JacksonLambProSpook]

One of the most cruel and efficient marcher capitains for the king. Being a marcher lord, you can only be ruthless.

[@atlantic_love]

I don't think you know what the word "naughty" means.

[@theezaction]

❤ the Bowie and Thin Lizzy references 🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🕺🕺

[@stevoplex]

"A futile lord made his escape...." Certainly not the most promising of starts.. But then, wow! What a comeback!

[@zachharper7386]

Love the channel! I would love to see a video on late 14th-16th century Bohemia. Keep it up, Meep🎉

[@desdicadoric]

What a story. What a mad lad

[@timroberts1261]

This could be so good if the narrator had any skill in speaking whatsoever. Am I naive and this is yet another AI voiced monstrosity or is it just that everyone who works in any media nowadays has to read things out like a robot going through a shopping list!!?

[@shellydesormier4646]

Seriously, I think... as a title for history, “The She-Wolf of France “ is a righteous title. 🐚🌸

[@SandileNgwenya-gv7nx]

It's a cool title but it doesn't mean much as she really didn't do much for France

[@COBO2]

Roger Mortimer who descendants would later take the crown 😂 and still on the thrown this very day 😂

[@patrickwelch7168]

That throne was thrown 🎉

[@COBO2]

@@patrickwelch7168 did it really.

[@patrickwelch7168]

@@COBO2 Definitely 😁

[@COBO2]

@@patrickwelch7168 yeah but isn't Elizabeth of York who married Henry Tudor who would later become Henry 7th also descended from Roger Mortimer?

[@patrickwelch7168]

@@COBO2 Absolutely. My comment was based on your spelling of throne. And I thought... That throne was thrown about back and forth... Anyhow that was my feeble attempt at humor. Carry on.😁

[@roserevancroix2308]

Very interesting. Thank you.☺

[@gibbnasta]

Whoever names the segments is a genius!

[@mikedee1771]

A sort of upmarket Eastenders.

[@kathleenmilligan5408]

Picture of young king was Edward VI.

[@MagdaleneDivine]

Im wondering why i can't stop laughing at this. Im so sorry

[@stevoplex]

Bad Boy! What a very very Bad Boy!

[@BaldBlokeOnABoat]

LeFtenant, surely? :D

[@theconqueringram5295]

What a bad egg!

[@nobodyatall7438]

Medieval stories are so good

[@HiltTilt]

That rapscallion!

[@thedukeofswellington1827]

King Edward II 😂

[@Angie2343]

This is very interesting!

[@tash4270]

That was wild

[@yourmajesty7592]

10:13 is Edward the 6th not the 3rd lol

[@Victoriaghh]

Oh very true !

[@desdicadoric]

Interesting that the De Spencer’s are lined up to be the next kings again

[@jeanglendinning1860]

you forgot to mention that Isabella and Mortimer were lovers

[@amandarenshaw2940]

It actually does. Around 08.30-08.35

[@boogiesmell5181]

They weren't though.

[@theomnisthour6400]

Mort y Mer - death and sea - sounds a lot like what happened to me

[@thomasdoubting]

I lost track of all thise people early on...

[@petebondurant58]

They're probably on Facebook.

[@theomnisthour6400]

Another invasion of the conehead women?

[@conemadam]

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the rumor of Edward II ´s horrific death by being impaled by a red hot poker.

[@cjthebeesknees]

For being gay, right?

[@conemadam]

@@cjthebeesknees no, because when he was lain in state there would be no marks visible as to what he died of.

[@lisanorth4934]

The red hot poker story is likely just a rumour. It didn’t come about until many years after Edward II’s death, and was most likely a cruel fabrication designed to draw attention and ridicule to his alleged homosexuality. It’s far more likely he died as a result of being smothered. There is also a theory that he might not have been murdered at all, and was secretly released from Berkeley Castle and lived out the rest of his days under a new identity.

[@conemadam]

@@lisanorth4934 if only we knew!!!!

[@lisanorth4934]

@@conemadamIt would be great if we did! Sadly, unless there is some definitive evidence yet to be unearthed, I don’t think we will ever know the truth.

[@h.huffen-puff4105]

00:35 I like him already!

[@GrandDuchessKuromi]

This story should be made a movie!

[@boogiesmell5181]

Indeed! But there's much, MUCH more to it than this... it's more thrilling than GoT could ever have been. Might I suggest the works of Kathryn Warner if you are curious, she's the go-to historian for the reign of King Edward II. Also Tim Mortimers book on Roger is very insightful and reveals there's more to this whole drama than meets the eye at first...

[@r5styy]

[@scottyb68]

It wouldn't change the course of history, it is the course of history.

[@HeavensGremlin]

FFS - the word is 'Mediaeval'......!