ROGUE ECHO ROWER Unboxing, Assembly, & 1st Impressions!

[@TedOnTheNet]

Please, please, please do a Decibel sound comparison, very useful info for home owners!

[@spacecowboy301]

Agreed, would also like average air bike decibel vs the c2 and rogue rower

[@squealer42]

Definitely. Also, seemed a bit higher-pitched with those few strokes Coop took. Maybe due to honeycomb grill?

[@Shabanezloth]

In Canada the Rogue Echo rower costs 300$ less than the concept 2. It's amazing

[@joannemarkov]

I do love how light my Concept 2 is. We keep it stored upright in our tiny home gym, and my boys are easily able to bring it down by themselves, as am I.

[@texasniner7747]

I just purchased my own first concept 2 rower for my home usage. Sorry, i love my c2 rower.

[@themeatinthemiddle]

I've had mine a year best buy I've ever made

[@danielvilla1661]

I have bikeErg2. I love my bike. Intervals, 2 minutes on, 1 minute rest

[@pointmass]

Love my RowErg!

[@JuanChavarria-hq5mj]

I think it's time for a rogue functional trainer review. Somepeople have them already. Thats what we all really want to see.

[@stuartadams408]

Maybe concept will start having sales now to compete 🤞

[@nathanrobinson3302]

We are all still patiently waiting for Coop’s review of Rogue’s functional trainers! I am sure I am one of many people waiting for Black Friday to make big purchases but we need to see some more reviews first!

[@bmstylee]

Functional trainers are grossly overrated. Most of what you do on those can be done with resistance bands and various hand grips.

[@nathanrobinson3302]

Well…that’s just like your opinion man.

[@bmstylee]

@@nathanrobinson3302donnie you're out of your element

[@CapUnlimited]

@@bmstyleethey definitely are especially at their price point might as well buy a set of dumbbells I can’t believe people even spending all that money on rep ares

[@pointmass]

C2 world wide community built in to every product. The OG baby… it means a ton and over built matters where it means something, not where it doesn’t… think racking big weight with force not 45mins of rowing, then completely fried, lugging extra mass for no apparent reason. Obviously RowErg stands the test of time as is. But must admit the folding is nice.

[@flexmarksthespot]

I've been using the Rogue Rower for two weeks and have to say the Concept 2 PM5 monitor is still king. Rogue's is good but a little clunkier to navigate and the presentation isn't as clean. The best feature is the tuf tires which makes it easier to wheel around on surfaces that aren't perfectly flat. The fold up feature is nice if you have a basement gym like me with low ceilings. It's quicker & easier to store away standing like on the C2 and will be the way non-home gyms store them. Quick release straps are ok and will save maybe half a second on transitions for crossfit workouts and shouldn't be considered a game changing feature imo. Performance wise, they are pretty close but I am noticing some slight differences. Still trying to work those out across different tests though.

[@slimerone]

but which one do you prefer when youre actually rowing?

[@flexmarksthespot]

@@slimerone They’re honestly super close but I’d still give the edge to Concept 2. Not sure if it’s because it actually feels better or if it’s just the more familiar feeling considering I’ve been using C2 rowers for over a decade and that is my measuring stick. I’m going to have more people test them side by side so I can get more opinions also.

[@pattytrillz5293]

Do you have a problem with the heel inserts coming undone when rowing?

[@flexmarksthespot]

@@pattytrillz5293 I haven’t had that problem. Are you?

[@pattytrillz5293]

@@flexmarksthespot yeah, major problem. Was trying to do a 30 min row and within that time those things came undone around 7-8 times.

[@CraftLulz]

Perfect timing for me, as i am in the market for a rower. Only thing is, the echo is currently out of stock.

[@marvellstarks2434]

Please do the Rogue twin functional trainer soon please

[@ryanc769]

The problem is that current C2 owners, like me, won’t switch to this and there are many. Rogue was 4 years late on this IMO. Also, the Logbook on C2 is excellent with the phone sync. The price difference is great but C2 is still king.

[@energizer7354]

Why switch when it works!? Plus i spent a ton of money on it. Its the most expensive single piece in my gym. Im not buying a new one

[@username-kn3oh]

​@energizer7354 too much is invested in c2 rower. Rogue rower might be a nice in addition to but for most crossfit gyms and home gym owners there's literally no point for the rogue rower

[@cameronmccoy5051]

Yeah, but that is true for anything. Unless a person or business needs a new thing, they will stick with what they have. I'm pretty sure they are looking at stealing future sales from c2, not so much current owners.

[@pragmaticduck1772]

​@cameronmccoy5051 i think you're absolutely right, they really can only be looking at the long game. Problem is c2 have such great longevity.

[@MrLukeydukey84]

@@username-kn3ohI’m in the market for a rower. If it feels the same as a C2, stores the same or in smaller foot print and is cheaper than C2, then I don’t see a point in buying a C2

[@CAHOP2401]

I picked up a used C2 a few years ago (original model D) and wrapped it with vinyl wrap from amazon to give it a custom look. That thing has been so solid over the years. It just WORKS. Rogue is gunna have a hard time convincing current C2 owners to switch over.

[@monkeyb1820]

c2 is deeply entrenched as the gold standard. I'm not even sure why Rogue would enter the rower market.

[@CraftLulz]

My only concern is the availability of parts, c2 has every single part for sale do DIY repair/replacements. What is rogues solution?

[@Tdiehl717]

No fish game. Def return it

[@generynkewicz4871]

Have a model C since the mid 90s. Many, many millions of meters. Replaced the flywheel cage once, handle once, seat and rail assembly once and upgraded to the PM 5. Flywheel, chain and shock chords still original. No reason that the Rouge should exist.

[@nickbender7920]

lol agree! Rogue just wants to push the C2s out of business. It’s a huge deal that it’s the official CrossFit rower now

[@hectorsandoval9526]

Can’t wait for the review!

[@chadmorris7116]

Full review please! Ordered today💪🏼

[@macbaryum]

PM5 is God.

[@marcellusjasper]

I’m glad I waited to get a rower for my home gym. I love the way this look and glad that it’s getting great reviews.

[@jasonburns6411]

I love my Rogue stuff, but C2 is the GOAT. Period.

[@backagain5216]

I never thought my diy stationary bike could be beat until the jack-stand broke and it propelled me through the drywall. I’ve learned to “leave it to the professionals.”

[@monkeyb1820]

true. I'm not even sure why Rogue or others bother making a rower. Assault makes a good rower and someone was messaging me about the quandry of a slightly discounted (used) c2 vs a deeply discounted Assault Rower. If someone is only interested in the exercise (does not care that they are not on the official tracking monitor), a substantially discounted Rogue or Assault could make sense. But if they're around the same price as the c2, might as well get the c2.

[@Jwilson57392]

What is that unique screen on the concept 2 rower?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet. I’ve got one and I love it.

[@0SKBooth0]

I understand the D battery frustration. Make it rechargeable by USB, and easily detachable so you can charge it.

[@Xecoda]

Light weight and compact is why the C2 is good. I'd love a comparison on that information! Exciting stuff!

[@mariaamaro6227]

also U can take it apart quit easily.....IMO....

[@osirisgolad]

Does Rogue sell spare parts like Concept 2 does? Saving $100 is not worth the loss of parts availability for a product that is supposed to last a life time if you maintain it properly.

[@NRRLavallee]

Honestly this looks sick and for that price it's definitely tempting - maybe an xmas gift for myself lol.

[@viceamiralyamakaji5847]

I have the rowerg for 2 years and the bikeerg for 1 years, I love them so much that they make me want to make some space for a skierg. Before buying them i hated Cardio so much.

[@colinrutter106]

I like that it folds as opposed to the C2. Though I do have a xebex rower 2.0 and I think I like the way the xebex folds more than the way the rogue echo rower folds. However obviously the rogue and C2 have better monitors though that isn’t too important to me, the xebex monitor gives me all the info I’m interested in.

[@joecowan3719]

Is a Rogue Echo Skier next? 👀

[@DG-dk4oi]

I seriously hate rogue for making this so late in the game. I could have used this two years ago in my home gym

[@mjacksonjones]

I have a Concept 2 in my home gym that I love, but just because of the Rogue Rower's space saving feature would make me buy it OVER the Concept 2 if I could do it over again (which I didn't buy my Concept 2.. my wife did as a Christmas gift around 5 years ago). But like others have said, I wouldn't get rid of my C2 for the Rogue.

[@danesnick]

Does rogue offer any equivalent to C2's Erg Logbook? The app and connectivity features for your workout data is so good.

[@jackswift83]

Coop, how did you get a TV mounted to your C2?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@jfruelas1]

Yes do an official review!! Looking to buy one of these during their matte black friday this year.

[@miker.219]

This is probably similar to PowerBlocks vs. Nuobells in that while the operation of Nuobells are slightly better than PowerBlocks, more people in the home gym community are going to have PowerBlocks at the moment because you can easily find them second hand for far less cost than a brand new set. The Rogue Echo Rower may be better than the C2 Rower w/PM5, but when you can find C2 PM5s second hand for far less than a brand new Rogue, that's still going to be the choice for a while. Also in doing the comparison for storage, for those who aren't aware, you can break up the C2 into 2 parts. That's a key aspect of the storage capabilities and perhaps a pro for some people over the Rogue.

[@AJCaws]

compare, assault fitness, rogue and c2 rowers together

[@davidb1975a]

Cool!!! Cool!!! Cool!!! Been waiting for your review on this. This just may be an addition to my gym toolbox.

[@tylerscott6640]

I wish you would have done a decibel test to see if it was any quieter than C2 because all their ergs are super loud.

[@NicholasBaxandall]

Great review as always Coop! You should try and get your hands on a Rep Athena Wall Mounted unit. Been looking at this option as a space saver for a garage gym and would love to hear your thoughts!

[@cameronmccoy5051]

Would be interested to see if you can find someone who has never used the Concept c2 and put them on this one first. Let them use it for a while, then have them try the c2 and see what they think...🤔

[@ArmedBatman]

Love mine, got it in day one. Love it more than the concept 2 for several reasons. For those who love the concept 2 there is zero reason to buy this. My only complaint is the phone holder on the rogue echo is not large enough. Does not fit my ultra s24 in otterbox case.

[@Coltrane45]

Thats frustrating af! I have an s24 ultra also and would be maddening that they didn't make it a 1/4" bigger to accommodate. Watching a movie during a long row is crucial!

[@ArmedBatman]

@Coltrane45 my workaround for it to fit is to take the rubber layer off the otterbox case and it fits snug. If you have the otterbox commuter it might be fine since it is slimmer or if you have a slim case in general you might make it. Just the otterbox defender case on it will not fit as is

[@andrewzach1921]

Thanks for the video Coop!

[@darthvasilis]

I just can't justify switching. Already have my C2, and it works great as is. The straps on the Rogue are nice, but that's the only feature I'm seeing that's a real improvement. I can see some people caring about being able to fold it up and move it, but I keep mine stationary. Other than those 2 features, it seems like it's just a C2 clone. Not exactly peaking my interest much. The Rep Rower, on the other hand, looks very interesting. Can't wait to get a full review on that one when it releases.

[@Dggb2345]

Coop, what is that large monitor that is plugged into your Concept 2 machine?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@County22]

How bullet proof are those quick release latches going to be? Needs to be more that £100 cheaper to make me not get the C2. Do love the folding feature though.

[@michaelmolinaro797]

literally just purchased my rogue rower at the same time this vid came out. if its anything like my echo bike, its going to be bulletproof and overbuilt, exactly how i like my gear.

[@chipferrell9189]

Is the footprint not the same folded?

[@Markinator83]

I don't get that foot strap. As soon as more than 1 person uses the rower, u will always need longer to adjust it. That it is wider may feel more comfortable at first, but limits your foot flexibility - there is a reason why it is like it is on the C2. When rowing half the way (like Coop) it may not matter ;-)

[@DrFearCo]

Stache is on point

[@ballagh]

I’m kinda caught in the C2 ecosphere until someone makes a paddle adapter for the rogue. Given that does the monitor have a force curve function (most underrated feature by far) and is there a drag function for anyone wanting to set a proper water resistance? Any comparison going just by damper is questionable.

[@timmoyer6037]

Looks like a nice option but I prefer the slimmer more understated profile of my C2

[@jauschuastout5600]

Is that a Mikolo Lateral Raise Attachment on the rack in the background? Will you be doing a review on that any time soon?

[@TedMotcheckIII]

It's about time they come out with a rower! Had the bike andnloved

[@AagoMcFly]

I love my concept2. Can't imagine the rogue one is better. The build up already was a lot more than on my C2. The rogue rower is a chunk cheaper so I understand if people will go for it. But oerhaps c2 will have some sales as well now

[@OMGhesMARK]

What is that mounting bracket used for the monitor on the C2?

[@ericray3819]

Dang need to have a gym clean out give away, sale or auction. Your followers would love to get some of that equipment at a discounted price

[@billyh2276]

Hold up…. How is coop already reviewing the rogue rower but not the rogue functional trainer yet!?!? 😢

[@TheXILLR]

Please give me a sign if you’re going to review the force USA c10

[@brandonvaldez5243]

Got the Assault rower last BF and I'm very happy with it plus it was much cheaper than this and C2.

[@crossfitdad8857]

Coop I love the content so keep it coming! My question is this-will the rogue rower be accepted for use in the CrossFit Open? I’ve asked Rogue and was assured they would get back to me but nothing back. I want the new rower but am concerned to sell our C2 and get the Rogue only to find out it won’t be acceptable for use in the Open; especially in the quarterfinals which my wife usually does. Hope you can’t get an answer for me my man! Cheers

[@freeze1617]

I didnt see that positve review coming. I thought he blow his load on the box , definately on the wheels

[@tas1424]

Love my C2 rower. Got the BikeErg as well and hope to get the SkiErg soon to complete the trio. However, this Rogue rower has got me interested. C2 for me wins every other comparison because of how good the PM5 is, but maybe this is different? Could this new kid actually be better?? Also need to know if Rogue will be as good as C2 for getting spares and for maintenance.

[@alivideo403]

My Garage Gym in Orlando. I have some sick machines 👍

[@joannemarkov]

I know you've probably addressed this in a previous video, but what is that screen you have attached to your Concept 2?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@AndrewKos-b7r]

Is the seat on the Echo rower similar to the textured foam pad on the Rogue 3.0 bench? I find the pad to be a bit too firm on the 3.0 adjustable bench.

[@halopat1367]

I was considering at some point getting the 260LB "Flybird Power Rack Set For Limited Gym Space" and can't find anyone who has a video review on it. I was just curious if it was something that you could possibly do in the future or not. Just an idea.

[@cjenks5221]

I love my c2. But am I the only person who wants a comfier seat though?!? The peloton rower seat on the echo rower would have been perfect IMHO

[@monkeyb1820]

I mentioned that seat is my only beef with it. My gym has a couple of 'assault rowers', and they have a great seat, similar to c2, with just a tad more padding.

[@neildempsey36]

Can you link the rouge up to a app like you can with the C2 Erg data app

[@skaraplis]

"hey guys this is COOP" haha gets me everytime

[@bdeale3314]

No leg extension kit for the Rogue. Being up off the ground is much nicer.

[@viktorcamps2720]

coop you gotta tell me where to get that camo shirt and hat?

[@richardrowe4367]

Coop! Give those light shades a dust! 😂

[@steveoake2901]

The deciding factor for me is c2 still sells parts for their rower models they haven't sold in decades. Rogue sucks when it comes to purchasing parts that break down. Basically, if it is not covered by a warrenty, you can suck it!

[@LeodanisFilo]

you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

Seems like it takes up a larger footprint. Also $100 cheaper is kinda surprising lol

[@lwilliam22]

I want to know if the rogue will pair to the concept app?

[@mrkang4080]

The longer I follow this channel, the more I think Sam should contact OSHA for multiple GGR workplace violations.

[@MrKeithcl]

My C2 has the stock led display which is about the size of the rogue led display in this video. COop why does your C2 have such a large monitor on it. Is that a add on or upgrade?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@mr.t4471]

Looks sweet. To bad they don’t sell it in Denmark.

[@spacecowboy301]

When can i buy an echo skier that attaches to my rack

[@jimmyjones6497]

I’ll buy those bumper dum bell weights!

[@michaelstewart9366]

What’s up with rep pushing the new adjustable dumbbells back?

[@euroswilliams7303]

Is the tv mount on the c2 an ergemporium solution?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet. It has its own mount.

[@brunodanner7777]

Ive got a R3 Rower- 2 years later and works smoothly. Why spend insane money on a name brand?

[@ballagh]

In terms of the C2 it’s because it’s the sport standard, it’s what official indoor rowing as a sport runs on, as well as CrossFit and Hyrox. In terms of reliability it’s legendary and if you ever sell it will hold value better than almost anything out there. On the other hand if you want to spend insane money on a rower start shopping for a RP3 which seems to be the gold standard for actually training rowers.

[@pattytrillz5293]

I just received mine and everything feels amazing. However, the heel keeper strap that has a slot that hooks on with 2 nipples keeps coming off while I’m rowing. Is this happening to anybody else?

[@Evan-d1v]

Will it come apart and fit in the back of a mid-size suv?

[@macalderon81]

What ever happened to Xebex rowers?

[@mryex]

What large screen do you have on the concept 2

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@stephennolan219]

It'd have to be half price of the C2 to get me to buy it. C2's CS is that much better w/ C2.

[@l.a.b.-levathleticsbox4203]

Where do we get this big screen on the C2 ? Thats Amazing

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@mlwadester87]

Anybody know which shoes Coop is rocking, there? Thanks!

[@JGDazza]

My C2 came in so few parts I was able to assemble it, get a work out in, shower and change all on my lunch break when i was working from home. This looks like it would take much longer to put together.

[@mcmurv]

Coop, are you dying your stache? It looks lighter!

[@patrickklepper3641]

Has anyone figured out what the small slide adjuster under the computer is for yet????

[@sandorlax]

damn, I'm so conflicted... I'm a C2 purist, specially for their Rowers... but Rogue is ROGUE!

[@henrywilkins3789]

C2 is made in the USA, this is made in China. I’m all about rogue that is made in USA but this is a no brainer. C2 all the way

[@monkeyb1820]

my main beef with the c2 is that the default seat is not very comfortable. Assault Rower has a much more comfortable seat.

[@CapUnlimited]

It’s definitely hard main reason I sold mine

[@monkeyb1820]

@@CapUnlimited they do make different cushions for it. I find it bearable, but after 10 minutes or so I find it a tad uncomfortable.

[@CapUnlimited]

@@monkeyb1820 yeah I don’t know I sold like 2 years ago

[@CraftLulz]

Do more squats

[@monkeyb1820]

@@CraftLulz we have genetics for flatbutts in our family.

[@jglick18]

what's the after-market screen on your C2?

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.

[@richardmather1906]

The asSambly is a lot more involved than on the C2. I find it odd that Rouge would do this. The C2 is made in the U.S., and parts are easily obtainable. You just pick up the phone and call the factory in Vermont. Why would anyone buy this just to save $100? Most C2 alternatives are sold to people who really don't know any better. Rogue's regular customer base knows better.

[@alexbielovich]

2:20 - Shoulda said "Maybe they've gone rogue"!

[@jckinney86]

What is that giant screen on your c2 and what does it do? 9:36

[@katcallaway2526]

Looks like a MyRow tablet.