Rogue Traders - White Van speakers

[@thegrimyeaper]

"The response levels were inaccurate." *head and eyes roll back in horror*

The song used by the expert to test the speakers is MOLOKO "the time is now" Enjoy :-)

[@Prolix8]

I remember vividly these vans on the King's Road in London in the 90s. These guys were smooth talkers for sure but you had to be a right mug to fall for that trick.

[@MADKIWI]

I bought some of these off a Kiwi who was in London. He brought them back too NZ. 25 yrs later he sold them to me. Whether they are or not he worked them hard and I even harder. They are banging floor standers still after 30yrs...

[@TerryJonesPrinterRepairs]

30 Years Later My "White Van" Dynamic Audio 2901 Speakers still sound great and shit all over bose and jamo speakers i've tested them against. The original tweeters can only handle 50w so I swapped them out for 2 vifa tweeters.

[@djmocok]

Dr Dre headphones are the 2016 version of this scam.

[@potterj09]

very true, I worked in a hockshop that helped discover a scam going on through a major electronics retailer in my country. We'd seen fake Beats, Marley, Monster, Skullcandy, even JBL but people would buy them at those shitty mall kiosks where you buy phone accessories. Couldn't believe a major store was flogging them off.

[@TheActualTed]

@Peter You don't get the point. Even original Dre's are very expensive for what they offer.

[@TheActualTed]

@@LNMBEATS Did you actually tried any similar priced stuff? Or headphones for 20 bucks? There's nothing extra about them except the brand.

[@dom3827]

@@LNMBEATS this is as wrong as it can get. I never heared a Beats Headphone which could compete in its price range.

[@kevinpedersen5290]

DR dre headphones have the same specs as steelseries siberia, but slightly more bassboosted. Yet youll still see naysayers despite this is a fact, not a question :p

[@4850m-ve4qj]

Omg I did this for 3 weeks back in 2001 in Sydney Australia when I was 18 and travelling. so embarsssing

[@nullwii]

oh look a precursor to beats by dre

[@rockerseven]

I think you are giving beats too much credit ;)

[@nullwii]

***** I think you might be right! my $20 set of knock around headphones sound better than my friends $300 set of beats lol

[@PimpKilla789]

Beats are the best headphones

[@deeloc1993]

Antinull the first model yeah but the newer ones are good. the best ones are the original pro beats. they were the best headphones i ever owned

[@nascarsimracing1]

The best high quality headphones for a good price I have used are Sennheiser. My pair is the Sennheiser 598 CS HD I got them for 150. They can go just below 10HZ

[@Foxstang4life]

Top notch gear sells itself , only junk needs a kick in the ass

[@supersaver87]

I was approached by a pair of "speakermen" about a year ago. I wasn't aware of the scam, but I still turned them down because I didn't need any speakers. Knowing what I do now, I'm very glad I didn't waste my time with them. (It's good to remember they don't exclusively use white vans; the scamming pair I encountered used a red pickup.)

[@ewaf88]

A Jam Audio website still exists - not sure if they're the same firm.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

I liked these speakers so much, I bought 2 pair. Loud as hell! Damn would they crank and with some signal equalisation, sounded great to boot.

[@zausberg575]

I have Jam Audio speakers. Blew them up with 15 watts

[@jayrichardson5474]

Yep same mine was fucked after few days

[@pcorf]

These speakers are Dynalab SDA 2.8

[@pitchn007]

Love the speaker guys

[@mattwilliams3140]

I have a pair of those dynalab 2.8's and they sound really fucking good. Honestly. No trolling, or kidding. They are so good.

[@mikehunt3486]

people get mad because they try to resale

[@davidperry4013]

What's that song they played in the part when they are testing those white van dynalab speakers.

[@RT-xb1gy]

Mokolo - Time is now???

[@SerenityNoww]

@GingeGORE There's no accounting for taste is there? I love that tune

[@Penguinssss]

ive made SOOOOO much money doin this. people are tools. take advantage of it. your not physically taking money out of theyre pocket. they actually hand it to you willingly. the fact that they were dumb enough to believe you just proves how easy people are to manipulate. its actually pretty fun too. and on the brighter side, you can HOPE that after the hustle, theyre a smarter shopper :D

[@UNLEASHdaBEAST1]

i have a set of these, i scored them for free. Ripped out that crap tweeter and put in a full range horn, sounds great now.

[@cam94z28]

at least it appears the dynalab speakers had real crossovers. You could see when they pulled the drivers out. Most would just throw a capacitor on each speaker. They must just be using crap quality drivers to begin with, or using improper ports size/length.

[@dowjones5981]

this looks old skool! early 2000s!?

[@RWL2012]

Diego Geer very much so - the year 2000 itself!

[@jpakendal]

yes, about 2001-2 I think... recorded on VHS of course.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

I ran these speakers for years and loved them. Then traded them off to my neighbor who is still running them today, 19 years after I bought them. Fine product. Shady sales tactics.

[@SenseiSlaughter666]

THANK YOU for posting this. Fell for this exact same scam back in 2000. The 'Dynalab' boxes were even identical, even though I was ripped off in Oregon, USA. I guess the only way to stop these theiving van- Gypsies is to spread the word via the internet. Thanks a bunch. -Grateful Yank

[@TerryJonesPrinterRepairs]

Despite this video they are actually really well engineered speakers

[@23chilled]

@@TerryJonesPrinterRepairs in what way and compared to what? Sit alongside a few pairs I have and you be shocked how bad these are

[@TerryJonesPrinterRepairs]

@@23chilled I can think of many examples. Bose 301 for example you can't use them without their stupid external graphic equaliser box even a set of Harman Kardon soundsticks sound better than those pieces of crap.

[@23chilled]

@@TerryJonesPrinterRepairs 301 mk2 redline were acceptable and it was the 901 you need the eq box with and the pa 800 series bose ones. They also need room to work effectively. There is better out there. Even a cheap set of eltax were better than dynalab. If you see in the video where hifi news pulled the driver out it was a generic driver and no internal sound absorption to stop reflecting waves inside the cabinet which could be the reason they sound boomy. I'd have them for like £20 as party speakers and not care if they got ruined.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

BTW, it's not 'chip board' they were made of MDF, Medium Density Fiber board, like virtually every other speaker, manufactured at the time, were made of. They're trying their best to make it seem as though people got ripped off and taken to the cleaners. But I've never met anyone, that actually owned a pair of these, who was unhappy with these speakers.

[@macnerd93]

I'm sure if they had been selling them for £100 or less there would be no issues, but they were lying. These speakers were never in a million years ever worth over £1000.

[@jpsacrelige317]

Stew beef is also sold as premium cut steak from white vans occasionally.

[@elrazine]

@dobyblue the frame it comes in is decent, replace the speakers with quality components then you got some speakers that will beat high end speakers with the the high price.

[@TorontoJon]

I still prefer to listen to my music through my iPood or using my Herman/Kartoon receiver.

[@raymondleggs5508]

Almost 2000.00 a day just to sell 4 set of entry level speakers. That's my kind of job!

[@gunnabefamous]

Whats the song he plays and bobs his heads too?

The song is MOLOKO "the time is now" Enjoy :-)

[@NelsonBigGunP200Fan]

+Bjorn Bridgeman Darude-Scamstorm

[@MisterBones2910]

"The Human ear is sixteen kilohertz" kek

[@HeylonNHP]

+Mister Bones Most people over 20 can't hear much beyond that.

[@MisterBones2910]

HeylonNHP Yes, but it's still not completely accurate. It's a bit like peasants saying that the human eye can't see more than thirty FPS.

[@djlobb]

+Mister Bones OR like Apple saying that people with 20/20 vision can't make out more than 320ppi therefore making their screens Retina.

[@MisterBones2910]

djlobb That is rich, I don't use Apple shit so I never knew that. Friggin' hilarious.

[@JoshuasRecordings]

+HeylonNHP I can hear up to 19.4KHz. My grandfather is the only one (in my family) who can only hear to 15KHz.

[@ldchappell1]

Just the name Dynalab sounds like garbage. I never paid for speakers in my life. People throw away perfectly good speakers all the time. I'm still using JBL speakers I found on the street in the early 90s. They're heavy as hell but they sound great.

[@nascarsimracing1]

ikr I got my fisher studio standards (profile pic) for 20 dollars on offerup, and they are the highest quality speakers I have ever owned. I also got another pair of fisher studio standards for like 10 bucks at savers and they are perfectly intact.

[@davediyou1309]

sounds similiar to Dynaudio, which are actually very good speakers.

[@woohoo8409]

@Steve Hoyland Unless they're from a white van guy, in which case it means that there is cement in the bottom! My friend and I were at the dump once and an old lady was struggling to unload two huge KLH speakers. We helped and asked her what was wrong with them, she said "They're too heavy and too loud!" He still has them and runs 1000 watts through them.

[@MrGuitartramp]

You know the best is Boze!!!!

[@marks.6480]

A friend of mine fell for this scam back in 1993. He still maintains they're actually very decent speakers. But they're not.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

Mark S. Actually, they are. They're very well built, solid, heavy, play clearly and distortion free at high volume, hard to over work and last, literally, for decades. Sales methods were shady, no doubt. But a well made product, believe it or not. I got my first pair back in 1999 from my then girlfriends cousin who fell to the sales pitch, bought them and was afraid to take them to his house because his mom would've pitched a fit. Their flat response was lacking for sure. But I had a 10 band graphic equaliser at the time that brought them right to life. I loved them. Everybody I ever met that had them loved them too. I wound up trading my stereo for a pop up camper to my neighbor because his amp died. As far as I know, he's still running them 19 years later. Great product. Crap marketing company.

[@ilpatongi]

Heinzkitz Velvet The fuck you’re talking about lol.

[@SCD4]

They are dogshit for the money you idiot.

[@mattwilliams3140]

@@SCD4 i still have a pair of them, and they sound great.

[@SCD4]

matt, if you don't know any better than you will.

[@IDunno655]

LOL "this here is 20khz the human ear can only hear up to 16" frequency range of a human being is 20hz -20khz.

[@rockerseven]

Yeah I had to replay that part to make sure I heard it correctly lol

[@RWL2012]

Jif young people can hear up to 20KHz but I'm 24 and I'm probably closer to 16KHz upper limit

[@plumeater1]

That's probably a normal hearing but as you go older it decreases. I can only hear up to 17.5 khz.

[@BavarianM]

i can hear 20khz

[@dhorus28]

i remember this .. i got stopped at least 4 times in the mid 90.s buy young teen in a white van saying the same thing .. only problem is , if it sounds to good to be true it usually is .. i always wondered how long this was going on.

[@Valthebulgarian]

i have 4 of those speakers they are accually really good

[@Valthebulgarian]

2.8 and they are not so bad used them for 8 years

[@TheDantheman12121]

lol. not that bad is relative. it depends how much you paid for them. if you found them on the streets then they are great. if you paid 100 quid then they are crap. any more and you should just cry in a corner

[@Valthebulgarian]

TheDantheman12121 got them for 50 bucks a speaker in 2003 lol

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

They are garbage. Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy even some lower end Pioneer or similar speakers, or even an HTIB system and you'll immediately see that the brand speakers are better. Spend more on separates and you will get even better quality, but these speakers really are garbage.

[@TheDantheman12121]

yeah the reason he thinks they are ok is because he has nothing to compare them too

[@deffstar69]

had the same whilst sitting in a m1 mway service station. Wanted to sell me a TV. Watched him for about 30 mins after trying the same to other people (just in case they fell for it)and then he left the services.

[@delcali06]

what about this system paramax

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

Question. What are the best overall speakers out there in terms of quality, longevity, dependability? I don't care about looks because I can just build my own housing for them. I don't care what year, model or anything, but what are the best?

[@MrGuitartramp]

@Watcher3223 or tushiba.

[@TS-qc7ny]

The irony is: the boss is selling £50 speakers for £200 to the scammers! Who's actually being scammed here?

[@pcorf]

The infamous "Dynalab SDA 2.8"

[@Gibbo1]

How decent of them to give him a lift to the cashpoint

[@horsesflu]

oops, I forgot to add in my last post that I agree 100% with the manager: people are greedy. And if their greed turns them foolish, and they're not able to instantly tell they're getting played, then, like the manager says 'fuck em'. I have very little pity for people that have been scammed.

[@Ronald-hk6fk]

Didn't he see the 200 watt maximum for their huge size

[@----.__]

I got approached about 3 months ago, had no idea it was an actual international scam until I saw this video. They were selling some really dodgy sounding brand but I already have a set of Dali Blues so laughed and walked away. Wish I had reported them now.

[@ShowMeInHD]

i almost got fooled today, but it was a blue bmw in southern california, not a white van.

[@khroe]

I bought a set of white van speakers once, I knew about the scam though, he wanted $500 so I offered him $50, he took $50 and after sone modification they wern't too terrible.

[@eliubfj]

hahah

[@legend131000]

I did that a couple of times myself.

[@mrcontroversy222]

That’s not how they operate.....

[@Technicallyimright]

Imagine being that spasticated you buy things out the back of a van 😂😂😂

[@milfinu]

You really don't see them anymore ?

[@vistron888]

+milfinu Because too many people are aware of the scam and a good chance these crooks will get recorded on a mobile phone.

[@rooster954]

CHEAP IS DEAR,dont forget,greed is what it boils down to,so sympathy out the window.

[@hoah]

awesome DNB intro

[@Bergerons_Review]

4:53 white boys selling from white vans, right.

[@macnerd93]

The narrator actually said "wide boys" in white vans. its a British slang term it basically means a Geezer or "a man involved in petty criminal activities"

[@cmj20002]

They have these vans in the USA as well. When I was a young man I was approached by two men in a van with a similar sales pitch. I am to smart and said no thanks. I figured if they were so good why are they selling them out of the back of a van? Could be they were either complete garbage or stolen in either case I wasn't interested.

[@Khyree_Holmes]

My $100 computer speakers sound really good for the price.

[@RWL2012]

Khyree Holmes because they weren't trying to be hi-fi speakers. they do their intended job...

[@londontrada]

This used to be very common in london. It always amazes me how gullible people are when they think they are getting a deal. Just the other day a guy pulled up in a van and said he had a bed in his van he needed to get rid of, top of the range ect.. he could do it cheap, i started laughing but my friend looked excited and started talking about buying it and storing it in the garage and selling it!!! He is not a stupid person but hes greedy!

[@f0rms]

bout a year ago, in melbourne, australia some guys tried this on me at a freakin petrol station.. the only place with more CCTV than a bank, feckin morons, i didn't buy it - i actually used to work in audio/video retail for 2 years - but i hope they got what's coming to em.

[@kittyfanatic1980]

the REAL issue at hand is the scamming. alot of these guys are legit but they need to sell these for what they are truely worth.

[@NonameNaboth]

Happened to me in 1997 (in Hong Kong);

[@cdvcarthasis]

problem with these speakers, besides the obvious, is that they run on low impendance sometimes, meaning that they sound good but may ruin whatever amp you've got hooked up to them. Ask any electrical engineer. P=I*V

[@Justsomeguy1015]

1:20 wow those pathetic scammers don't even know what they r talkin about. Human ears can ear up to 20khz not 16khz >_>

[@tombrown8609]

Actually it depends on who you are talking about, some people can hear 20khz, some can only hear 18khz and so on.

[@Justsomeguy1015]

Corrupt Tom But most of the time, its cuz they gettin old.

[@mellodge]

20kHz is theoretical most adults can't hear that high. I can't hear past 17kHz. That aside the guy didn't realise that what he said didn't make sense. If people could only hear up to 16kHz then who gives a fuck if his titanium speakers can playback 20kHz

[@RotaryLover]

I was scammed too today in Montreal...they took 240$ so it's not soo bad but still! :(

[@03056932]

@ManWithVanEdinburgh both to blame. Think.

[@re4477]

This scam is as old as dirt. I had a dude pull that crap with me. I was like nope, too good to be true, and I know I'll never see you again.

[@dougquaid4745]

This scam has been going on for decades, if you get scammed you only have your own greed to blame

[@sergband9672]

If it isnt the white vans great grand parents

[@DjZelous]

@xmi2011 lol

[@Bugout727]

I've got a set of these and had them for 8 years now and they cost me £70. I have never had any problems with them and they are great speakers but can be a little too punchy.

[@RWL2012]

David salad putting some dampening material inside the enclosures might help a little bit, but they're a bad starting point

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

David Salad I agree. It seems everybody commenting here that's talking shit about these speakers, have never owned them. I loved mine. I had two pair. I like the first pair do much, I bought my second from eBay because the van guys were gone.

[@mattwilliams3140]

I have a pair too. I really like them.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

#PsychoCulture - LN Enjoy your cheap studio speakers then.

[@MrGuitartramp]

Sure you don't want Hichachi?

[@tencz57]

Kilowatts !! It's F'n Bomb .!! Let me reload my government EBT card and i'l buy them next week . K ?

[@tomlewis1]

Westwood, you're nicked!

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

+tom lewis That was my first thought, in the first scene with him in, it's Tim westwood's long lost brother :P

[@KandymanMusik]

fuckin choon at the beginning

[@jizoehizoe213]

My buddy bought a pair of these exact speakers when he was younger, and afterwards he realized that he had been scammed and then he sold them to me for half the price just to get rid of them. I later on hook them up to a Sony receiver and was able to get a decent sound but minimal Bass out of the speakers. definitely not worth more than a $75.oo pair.

[@user-rp5er1fh2d]

check ebay it sells for £60

[@clvnblnkee]

you said it twice so it was very big

[@itsGuy]

Serves people right. You buy something knowing it's most likely stolen, no one accepts its just extra stuff.. People already think its stolen goods and they buy on impulse. So no crying that you got ripped off, your intentions were to buy stolen or "miscalculated extra inventory " lol. Plus everyone knows of this scam

[@jpsacrelige317]

At 1:24 he flips him off.

[@TheEnglishbloke71]

You would have to be a total bell to fall prey to those two muppets. I would not give them 20 pence.

[@thegarbageman21]

This happened to me today in orlando, FL. Two guys trying to sell "paramax" audio crap for super cheap. I almost paid 100 bucks (they wanted 300). They had warranties, paperwork, receipts, etc. Paramax even has a legit website. Luckily their greed trumped mine and I eventually saw the scam...

[@rockerseven]

Interestingly, there's a high end brand of surge protectors called Panamax that has power management systems that can run $500 or more. Really great systems that make any other surge protector worthless when you realize just how much they do.

[@IronTigerMantis]

These dudes have scammed a lot of people where I live. They've taken a few beatings from people who got ripped off in the past. One white van guy actually had his head slammed in the van door. Ouch!

[@hellonpluto]

i got offered to buy some power tools from a white van. I just politely said no thanks i'm fine for tools. Anyone who buys things from these types of people deserve to get scammed.

[@samjames8470]

buddy your just a loser

[@hellonpluto]

Sam James * you're

[@acronus]

Even for $20 at a thrift shop..........don't bother.

[@BavarianM]

James Roy blow the speakers up save the casing only for decent speakers

[@mattwilliams3140]

I have a pair. Dont make stupid comments untill you've actually heard them.

[@jaked9191]

Almost bought a pair of “digital audio DJ speakers’’

[@abc-ni9uw]

yea but i have magnetbox ;)

[@uptownsamcv]

one of my friends just dropped $350 on some horrible Baldwin Acoustic speakers, there is even some cheap website you can look up LMAO.. and on thanksgiving day lol.....

[@dropbass0294]

EEVBlog :)

[@detroitvman]

funny..reminds me of me

[@knightmareKnight1]

I feel like paying them scammers with counterfeiting money. And then talk about it in youtube.

[@CJ-rf9jm]

How ironic that a scam being shown in a video thats a direct ripoff of a tv report without any legal permission.

[@RWL2012]

CJ99 it's an 18 year old 6 minute VHS dub for crying out loud...

[@KPhilly_]

"Head office in the United States" So not surprised

[@SpaceMountainLarry]

the usa makes the best speakers in the world.

[@Synthematix]

SpaceMountainLarry England does actually

[@SpaceMountainLarry]

Synthematix Nope. We have JBL, EAW, Community, and Meyer. The best speaker companies in the world. England is a close second, however.

[@Synthematix]

what about KEF and mission?

[@SpaceMountainLarry]

Synthematix I've never owned either of those brands. But, they look really nice and I wouldn't mind owning them.

[@Deerock_FL]

What they are doing isn't illegal (at least here in the US), just sleazy as hell. They are selling a product and people buy that product. They misrepresent the value of the product, but of course, as we all know, the value of anything is what a person is willing to pay. I guess it all comes down to "buyer beware" with these douchebags

[@teemukumara5035]

"white boys in white vans"😂

[@ManWithVanEdinburgh]

Good sales man got human nature to a tea - cant help a trier , greed - people -so called bargain... anyone stops you and offers you cheap stuff you have only yersel to blame

[@PrivateAckbar]

David Johnston: mug.

[@tombrown8609]

i like my booze speakers

[@GilZu]

4:05 remind Putin to me

[@MrEOM41]

Id like to think we both scammed each other .. a guy asked for $220 and I talked him down to $100 😅😁

[@Guvna07]

Stephen Merchant was nearly fooled by these ....

[@clvnblnkee]

@rich13g Go search this on Wikipedia, it gives you a shit load of brands that are fake/counterfeit.

[@WoodysPickle]

Got scammes today. Payed 140 total but could have uaed that money for other things. Beware white van.