Rogue Westside Scout Hyper Review: The Cheapest Reverse Hyper (That Also Folds)

[@BasementBrandon]

This diminishes the Reverse Hypers biggest selling point of being a great place to set your drinks and bags.

[@Cappymoode]

Louie Simmons: "This cured my bulging discs and saved me from pain and surgery". Brandon: "It saved me from using my floor as a bag stand". if this ain't versatile I don't know what is.

[@Aaron-on5ik]

HAHAHAHAHA too true!

[@dd61882]

Troll.

[@Matthew-im4rw]

lol whenever i ask if someone is using this at the gym, they say "no" and get annoyed because they have to take all their shit off of it so i can use it

[@philmcrackinnow]

The semitendinosis of the hamstring gets worked more by reverse hyperextensions than any other hamstring exercise. www.t-nation.com/training/tip-the-hamstring-exercise-that-beats-leg-curls

[@liftordie777]

Speaking as a 310lb powerlifter with limited garage gym space remaining, I LOVE the Scout RH. Admittedly the feet on mine do not come up during use (being heavier, I may counterbalance it better). I also have no instability so far. The thick rubber feet actually grab the flooring of my gym (stall matts) very well. I HIGHLY recommend this for powerlifters on a budget and/or that have limited space.

[@bullpup762]

Thank you so much; this is what I needed to see. I'm 260, so I was wondering if being heavier would mitigate the front legs lifting up.

[@livestrongforever]

just ordered wanted to cancel your comment gives me hope

[@Ashurus]

thanks for the tips, I'm not even 200lbs but I do have stall matts so this gives me peace of mind that it might not lift

[@OnMyGrindEveryDay]

How much you think can hold weight wise? I am thinking about buying some thin calibrated steel plates since the weight peg is so short. Think it can hold 300+?

[@Somtric]

How is it holding up, 2 years later? also, coop uses a lot of momentum in this video, so.. ye, that's why it really tips a little.

[@AlexLeonidas]

Holy hell, I need to get one of these. Thanks for the awesome review Coop!

[@ATimelessParadox]

lol I figured this would catch your eye Alex. It’s pretty much perfect for home gym folks

[@wessjr08]

they literally sold out like 2 hours after they were announced

[@GarageGymReviews]

Yeah brotha!!

[@user-ch5ij5yd2g]

XD

[@BradHanssen]

Didn't think I'd see you here, Alex! What's up, man!?

[@JohnQuackenbushDC]

OK I have to comment on the split-folding rack/cage system across the doorway!!! PURE GENIUS!! PLZ DO A VIDEO ON HOW YOU DID THIS!! I am a retired chiropractor and the number one reason to perform these weighted hypers are spinal rehabilitation to the point that these are wellness stretches for your lumbar spine and pelvis. DO NOT DO THESE IN THE CROSSFIT VIDEO METHOD WHERE YOU TRY TO MIMIC A FAN OF FAST MOVEMENTS. Do them slow and low. When your legs are at the bottom of the arc or even better when your legs start to move forward you have to learn to relax your lower back muscles and pelvis. This is a learned behavior and somewhat difficult unless you concentrate on relaxing the lumbar area as described. I guarantee you are not doing so. When I first figured this out and actually relaxed my lumbar musculature on the lowest downstroke position the traction on my lumbar spine was intense!! This is the best way to distract your lumbar spine. This a stretching technique.

[@pelvur]

20 seconds into the video, and I've already seen what I need. It rocks. Like a rocking chair.

[@joearroyo4141]

I own one and I get zero rocking back and forth, I guess it depends how low or how high you lean on the pad. I feel nice and centered when I use it.

[@gmjsomeone54]

I can echo previous response. Mine has zero rock. This video definitely makes it look a whole lot worse than it really is.

[@bad71able]

Using some straps or chains to hang some plates or kettlebells from the handles should counterbalance the pendulum and solve any rocking issues.

[@philmcrackinnow]

Can you pour concrete in the frame?

[@Fahim-il7wz]

Coop is also swinging the weight, if you focus on contraction and drop the ego this thing wont budge.

[@awmlawoffice]

I have the OG Louie Simmons Patent year 1994 reverse hyper in my garage and I love it. I use it 4 times per week for the "intended use", but I also use it for seated face pulls and some other unconventional things. Back extensions and reverse hypers are a huge part of my training.

[@DanesinTexas]

9:17 admiring the coop glutes in background!

[@ahmedtnz]

I am 150lb and I have the scout hyper. Does not move at all. Plus it's super versatile. Good video Coop.

[@bmstylee]

150lbs isn't particularly heavy. I would be interested in seeing what it did with my 280lb frame on it.

[@jmaldo1215]

I'm 6'3", 200 lbs. Just got my Scout today (Wednesday - ordered on Sunday - SUPER fast shipping when in stock, nice job as always Rogue). I assembled and used with varying light and heavy weights today and had no issue with legs lifting. Not sure if they fixed whatever the issue was or what...Coop's obviously not lying lol, but I'm not having an issue

[@dansal4726]

Would you still recommend it? Might get this for my dad he is recovering from lower back issues and was wondering if it does help as he is around your height and size.

[@jmaldo1215]

@@dansal4726 I would definitely still recommend. Still not having any issues and it stores super easily while not taking up much space. I've also (intentionally) put on about 25 lbs and the legs are still solid. Definitely helped out with back pain and strength as well. This is a winner. Best of luck to your dad!

[@dansal4726]

@@jmaldo1215 Thanks for a quick response and update, much appreciated.

[@-G-Unit]

@@dansal4726 it’s actually on sale right now. However this isn’t a fix all for back issues. Sure it’ll help some but it highly depends on what’s wrong and the persons fitness level.

[@B-dawg95]

@@-G-Unit Will this help a slipped disc?

[@danielweeden4957]

The specs are--Maximum User Weight 300 lbs. --Maximum Swing Arm Load 176 lbs. Two 25 kg plates and two 20 kg plates total 198 lbs. That exceeded the spec of the max weight on the swing arm by 22 lbs. If someone with shorter legs were using the Scout with the same amount of weight the front legs might not raise at the high point of the range of motion. Remember that Archimedes guy? Leverage and levers? For $350?? The unit costs a little over $3 a pound. During the "pandemic panic" Olympic plates not in the very best of shape often sold for more per pound! Yes, weight could be added to the front legs --at your own risk. Simmons and Rogue might find a market for a unit that is between the Scout and the full size reverse hyperextensions --especially since the pandemic. Good demonstration showing the advantages, capability and limitations of the Scout!

[@loopba]

love this thing, my back pain from desk job was gone within a few weeks

[@JohnQuackenbushDC]

Comment 2 Reverse hypers: Realize this relaxation technique described below should not be employed if you are banging out reps as shown in cross-fit videos ...when doing these stay tight and prepared for your exercise at hand. The relax technique described below id for stretching and rehab only!!

[@thomasmcelroy5785]

finally a decent folding reverse hyper!! Hang a sandbag on the leg stabilizing bar, add all the weight you want!

[@rolandstimpson]

Is there enough room on the loadable pegs?

[@tcgtpl]

This is too flimsy to handle the weights that Coop needs to build on his 1200# deadlifts.

[@96drumgod]

You could put a sandbag on that crossbar connecting the front legs. Great review Coop!

[@dobromirgospodinov2042]

Plates will be bumping into it

[@96drumgod]

Dobromir Gospodinov I didn’t even pay attention to where the plates swing, you’re right.

[@mathtcha]

I used my 45lb weighted vest on it..

[@benemirate7584]

It's also available in Germany and Europe now, I bought it an it is a beast, I have to say I imagined it to be smaller and a little unstable, but it is stable enough for me and I'm 105kg, when using some havier weights I do lean some plates against, but no issue

[@mickaelmtp2397]

Would you mind me asking which website you go it from ? On Rogue's European website I could get it for 468€ including shipping (166€) .

[@ront2457]

I have the first version that came out and it cured my sciatica within about 3 months of using it. I'm getting ready to setup my new home gym in the next couple of weeks and can't wait to get back to using it.

[@mxchino1]

I wondering about this. I have sciatica and I’m going through a flare up right now. I started doing some stretches I found online and it has helped immensely but still not where I want to be. So you would recommend a reverse hyper for it?

[@ront2457]

@@mxchino1 I can only say it helped me...

[@mathtcha]

What kind of program did you use to help you sciatica?

[@ront2457]

@@mathtcha I did some yoga stretches and I used the reverse hyper after every squat session.

[@mathtcha]

@@ront2457 Cheers!

[@kwilcox417]

I'm 5'7", ~140lbs, with Ankylosing Spondylitis (think arthritic back) and this seems like it was made for me. I also wish it was made in the USA, but I might pick this up because of 1. the price and 2. it folds! Thanks for the great review Coop!

[@maxguida7766]

I am very glad that you reviewed this because I was so curious as to it's actual performance when I first saw it. I've always wanted a reverse hyper but couldn't justify the price or space in my garage. This seems like the perfect compromise. I do not think the front-to-back rocking is enough to dissuade me (I could always drape something heavy, like a sandbag, over the crossbar), but I am slightly concerned about the short sleeves. I don't want to have to invest in iron plates just to use this device (I have Rogue Mil Spec plates in my garage). So I will have to see. I am also 6'3", but that thing looks pretty tall. Also, Dan Bailey did a video showing more uses for a reverse hyper than just reverse hypers. He showed how you could use it for leg curls, leg extensions, and even seated/bent over rows. It's more versatile than you might think!

[@CLong-cm5eg]

Finally received mine last week. Works great for my needs. Had to go through the "notify me" process twice, but got lucky on the 2nd round. I'm very happy with it so far.

[@ScottYonehiro1]

I absolutely love your reviews, Coop. You give credit, you always respect the builders, but you are always honest and fair. I was about to purchase this for my private training studio for clients but decided that a more stable version would be better. I love Louise, and everything he and Westside Barbell has given to our community, but when dealing with paying clients, I need to use equipment that won't cause even a slimmer of doubt. Mahalo Coop! 👊

[@zetaone2669]

Good review, thanks. One could always strap weight between the two front legs. I have the first generation model and love it, and so will my great grandchildren.

[@gugy68]

Wow, I was waiting for this big time. I don't have a lot of space in my garage. Awesome!

[@benbarela7056]

I'm seeing the quarantine gains brother!

[@kinzinger1]

hypnotic mustache...somethings different.. love the reviews, keep up good work

[@fitnessfrank83]

Oooh it looks so PUmpt!

[@NaturalHypertrophy]

I was always on the verge when it came to getting a reverse hyper for my home gym because of the price but this seems to resolve that issue... Now to find space to put this somewhere lol

[@bobdole7292]

This thing fucking crushes your ribs, organs, solar plexus, sternum, etc. I have no idea how people use this. I’ve had for a few days and done a few lighter weight sets every day just to test and get used to it. In order to get the traction you need your legs hanging freely , with about your hips and lower hanging just off the edge of the pad. The problem with that on this machine is that it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on your entire torso in general. It’s like having someone stand on your abs, ribs, chest, etc., and when you do the 2nd part of the motion, legs swinging down and under you, the force of your legs plus whatever weight you have loaded pull you even harder into the pad. I have no idea how people use these. I’m not sure if it is RH in general or just this one, but it is extremely uncomfortable to use.

[@ducdu4136]

You are so humble that’s why I follow you. Keep it up. You will outlift Thor one day!

[@HAL-dm1eh]

My mouth dropped when he said 465 at 180 lb body weight. My impression was he is just a hobbyist who came up with a good idea for KZbin. Apparently he knows a little more than that, or he's one of these genetic freaks we all "hate".

[@ducdu4136]

HAL 9000 its not even his final form!

[@caleb74helms]

When it comes back in stock I will definitely buy. Thanks for the review Coop 👍

[@gtfourziggy2]

This looks like its designed more for rehab work as opposed for heavy lifting... for that purpose? This looks perfect

[@magikchristian]

legit just discovered it seconds ago but (so far) I agree

[@hnt1445]

I'm getting one as soon as it's back in stock!! It's perfect for my 1 car garage gym!!!

[@michaelcroom9885]

Use a chain to hang weights across the front crossmember

[@statusvip8418]

Hey Coop. I just wanted to know, have you ever considered to be a state trooper? The mustache will get you hired instantly🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@GarageGymReviews]

No, but I have considered being extremely good looking. Unfortunately, this mustache didn't make that dream come true.

[@fitnessfrank83]

It gives him eXtra PUuMP!!!

[@48Boxer]

@@GarageGymReviews You can't be considered extremely good looking until Greg Doucette says so

[@drottie]

Brad Lustig that’s because his hair is not high enough, the higher the hair, the better looking!

[@1sloshie]

He should be a super trooper

[@peterrannow4459]

Seemed like a great idea when I saw it. Thanks for the review Coop! Huge help.

[@ristretto24]

They could put fold out feet on the back legs to solve the issue.

[@jdawg1835]

@bruinskeld Wheelie bars.

[@rickviramontes2317]

Rip off in my opinion. This isn't manufactured by Rogue, (mfg in China) so I put right there with the Titan Economy H-PND at the exact same price (when u factor for the Rogue shipping costs and lack thereof with Titan) Titan offers a heavier, thicker steel frame and no balancing issues, and can accommodate more plate storage, however. What it all comes down to is how much your willing to sacrifice for portability I guess. I won't be going with this one though.

[@thomasmcelroy5785]

yeah it really aims at being the top of the portable range rather than at those that have the square footage for a permanent unit

[@gugy68]

It comes down to portability and space issues. That's why I'm considering this. The stand RH is too heavy, bulky and I don’t have the space for it.

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

It comes down to price for me. I can’t justify spending 500-895 dollars on a machine that does one thing and one niche specific thing. I only want this for lower back issues to see if it will help with my compressed spine and back pain, but I’m not willing to drop almost a grand to find out. 350 bucks I can take the hit and not feel ripped off

[@ironhallgym]

Simple fix...Part of the front legs could fold down and you place weights on it (manufacturer) or strap some weights/weighted bags to the front (owner). It will stay down. I got you Coop.

[@mikebutkus]

Great review Coop.

[@AnthonyFilardi]

Thank you for the review.You convinced me to buy one to protect my lower back

[@poison806]

I actually wanted to listen to the story behind it.

[@emilgilels]

Thanks for the review Coop! 1) A question: Do you really need collars on the pegs? Since the pendulum is swinging perpendicular to the direction of the plates' movement on and off the pegs, perhaps collars aren't needed(?). 2) Re: the front-to-back rocking during use: I wonder if the plate pegs on the pendulum are intentionally shorter, to limit the number of plates that can be loaded and hence the amount of weight on the pegs, which would then prevent the machine from tipping backwards? 3) I think Coop's suggestion is great: adding a way to add plates on the FRONT to act as a counterweight would allow the machine to be safely loaded much heavier. Future versions of this model (and other similarly-designed models) should incorporate this idea!

[@andrewtucker2014]

I had hoped you’d do this video, thanks for posting.

[@pd4pd]

Thank you Coop! Been waiting on this.

[@tonyallen3138]

I would’ve jumped on this if it was available back in 18’. However, I have the Titan H-PND that does everything I need it to do. Awesome review Coop.

[@mortenpoulsen8688]

Like the fold away products in the last 2 videos, closer to my reality- but really love them all

[@salcidojosiah]

350$ plus 50$ shipped. Cheapest titan is 400$ free shipping. This is good if you dont have the space.

[@nichgorman8806]

I just ordered mine - rlly excited - I'm 200lbs but been lanky my whole life. I have no weights to put on yet; my back is bad enough as it is, I'll be fine with no weight for now. I don't think I mind the rock back and forth, let's me know I'm putting in work. Thanks for the review.

[@hgv1883]

How is it working out

[@nichgorman8806]

@@hgv1883 It's been 8 months. Short answer is it works. Consistency produces strength. My best consistency was probably 3 weeks. All in all, My back pain went from 10/10 constant pain, to 4/10 irritation due to long sitting or lifting. I sleep great again. I'm not in pain constantly. I can't complain. This and along with other on-the-ground exercises: you got a good journey.

[@hgv1883]

@@nichgorman8806 thanks for speedy reply I've just ordered mine

[@nichgorman8806]

@@hgv1883 good investment sir . very good

[@MattRoldy350]

Torn right now between the Scout and Titan's Economy. As of now, they're the same price, though Titan's looks to be a little more stable. I've got a garage gym with the equipment stored in one half, and I park in the other. I'd be able to fit either of them in the squat rack when I'm not lifting, but obviously a folded 85lb Scout would be easier to move around than dragging a 147lb Economy around. I wish there were more videos on the Economy to get a better idea at the comparisons. Mostly just see the regular Titan H-PND. I'll just have to keep checking around. If anyone is familiar with both, I'd appreciate some input. Thanks for the review.

[@swolemaz_]

I feel called out at 7:10. 😂 I’m not worried about the price, but I am worried about the limited space. So this is perfect to use with my calibrated plates. Thanks for the thorough review!

[@illestdomer2005]

I think I got mine the same time as you, Coop. I didn't even think - as soon as I got the rapid fire notification, the order was placed. For reference, I tried putting 2 45lb echo bumpers on either side, and there was so little space for the spring clips (combined with the rocking maybe?) that one clip shot off. Since then, the max I have used is a 45 and 35 on each side which is still pretty darn easy, and I don't even squat your 900lb squat. That said, the rocking doesn't concern me. Now, if Rogue EVER sells those calibrated steel plates again (June 2022?), I will be buying the $2k package and can load this sucker up, and maybe with enough wait, the rocking will become concerning, but for traction, I think 160lbs is probably good enough for most people, and the biggest selling points are price and "compactability" as the footprint is a tall order for a (mostly) single use machine.

[@ashwinkittur2480]

Exactly. It's ALL about the portability (even more so than the lower price). For many users, the options are buy this or have no hyper at all given the footprint of the standalone versions (check out videos of people rocking those too if they use a lot of momentum). If you want to go heavier, you can eventually buy thinner steel plates, like you mentioned, and just use tie down straps to attach kettlebells or bumpers to the front end. In the meanwhile, you can go lighter, with more reps and more control - and still get significant benefit.

[@donaldduke2233]

OK, so the front legs come up a little. This is a HOME GYM model. Use less weights. The average home gym user is not strong enough to use the amount of weight that would lift the front legs. I like it. I'll probably buy one.

[@alexandercastellini5741]

Thank you for the review brother. This was super helpful

[@joemeagher3064]

I have one. It’s great! I use it prior to squats and deadlifts. I’ve had no problems with stability.

[@SuperiorFitnessSB]

The only thing I will say I just purchased one moments ago. Shipping is gonna cost you 80 bucks from the Rogue website. So just be prepared for that. I did like how it also had the option to buy handles for shorter clients if you’re working with younger athletes. I run a home gym and this thing’s gonna work perfectly considering how much equipment I’m trying to fit into a car garage very nice to be able to fold this up and leaned against the wall.

[@brentnahmias44]

The front coming off the ground is honestly super worrying. Would be enough to stop me from buying.

[@GarageGymReviews]

It's definitely annoying, however, I never felt like it was going to fall backwards or anything during use.

[@dustinkeay4618]

What about adding some chains to weight down the front side? Or some hands looped pulling it forward to prevent rocking?

[@thomasmcelroy5785]

add sandbag?

[@gugy68]

Garage Gym Reviews Hey Coop, do you think this RH would be tall enough for a 6’8” guy? I'm wondering if my feet would drag on the floor.

[@GarageGymReviews]

@@gugy68 Dang, honestly, I think it would be a bit small for you tbh.

[@jadenfelver]

If those holes in the grip supports are threaded you use it as an anchor point to mitigate that rocking motion

[@SF_Native]

I wanted one until this review. While i do love the portability, it just looks kinda cheap and flimsy...the front legs coming off the ground every rep did it for me.

[@MudPig6110]

I just got mine in from Rogue and its impressive, you may want to pick it up man.

[@elkay6533]

I have one and it only ever rocks when I start to get lazy about controlling the weight

[@jacoby4657]

just got mine, it's not flimsy at all, that's the best part of the review. He's trying to make it flimzy as much as possible. Unless you weigh 260lbs, this thing will serve you greatly

[@Rickndanger84]

Just received mine yesterday, this thing couldn’t be more sturdy. Easy to fold up. This thing is perfect

[@coachjon03]

"it's somewhat heavy, but for twelve hundred pound deadlifters like me, it feels like, ya know, nothing " lmao. Coop always coming with the comic relief 😄

[@urdadshusband781]

If you think that is funny you have an extremely unsophisticated sense of humor

[@dlroto]

The easiest fix for the rocking issue would be to replace the rubber feet with extended rubber feet especially in the back under the pendulum, in theory that would work. Could be an easy fix if you have a 3 d printer.

[@_westcoastcanine_]

Just looked at this yesterday 💪🏼. Titan Lever Arms next? Im gettin the the Rep Iso arms buuut I wanna see the Titan ones on a Monster Lite rack. 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@williamcarter6374]

Hey Coop, are the handles strong enough in your opinion to hang weight from for stability?

[@idw85]

How do I keep the ankle strap from slipping off? I can’t get 2 reps in without it falling down.

[@JB4375]

Simple Stabilization Fix: Add another bar across the bottom of the front legs, allowing you to put dumbells across the bottom .

[@magikchristian]

Legit just discovered this bb (the internet is actually good for something) & it seems like an almost indispensable bit for certain exercises/specific sports, etc. training… & foldable to boot. dig it.

[@Juliussmoothie]

one of these would be a game changer i bet. nice review!

[@joshuaowen6185]

The back legs need extending and the pivot point needs moving slightly to counteract the front raising. The front legs can stay the same length as they. This way the footprint won't be too much bigger and will stop the front from raising. It looks like a very good product but needs a slight change to solve the issues.

[@jaquta69]

Just ordered this, love the review.

[@lafl333]

Does it come with weights?

[@jaquta69]

@@lafl333 no weights

[@sulu7390]

regret not buying it when it is under $400. Now it is close to $500.....

[@Dippedinblackink]

I decided to buy the Titan H-PND (ordered today) due to two reasons. 1) the short loadable sleeves only being 5.25" and 2) the instability of the unit.

[@isaacdunson2989]

I got to say I love using my reverse hyper as a standing desk and to just sit on 😂

[@jasrcyr]

I really liked the idea of this smaller and cheaper version of the reverse hyper however after watching the reviews the length of the loadable pegs is the deal breaker for me. I don’t like the idea of the legs coming up in front but that wouldn’t have been a deal breaker had the pegs been longer. With Rogue Echo bumper plates they will barely hold 2 - 45s on each side. I’ll pay more and go with the Rogue Z Hyper.

[@bad71able]

Using some straps or chains to hang some plates or a couple of kettlebells from the crook in the handles would counterbalance the pendulum and probably mitigate any rocking that would lift the front legs.

[@thomasbrown7328]

Thanks, Coop! I have the previous non-Rogue version of this you mentioned- called CorEvolution. It foldable too and holds standard plates rather than Oly plates. Found it a few yrs ago at the local used sporting goods store (or what I call TJ Maxx for guys!). I agree for average people this thing is more than enough- I especially like it for single leg work to hit those parts of the high hamstrings that are involved in sprinting more. Fun hack: put your Kbox next to it and get on the reverse hyper and rather than putting your ankles in the reverse hypers’ swinging arm put your legs in the kbox strap using the ankle straps and throw a kettlebell on the kbox so it doesnt lift off the ground and suddenly you have flywheel reverse hypers. :-)

[@GarageGymReviews]

Oooh, I need to try that!

[@pelvur]

Thank you for review, Coop, great video as usual. The rocking is not that significant but it is annoying like hell. I have similar issues with Titan's dual hyper (my first and last piece of equipment from them), and I hate it.

[@GarageGymReviews]

Definitely annoying. Curious to hear if others are having the issue.

[@kylen6430]

0:12 that clip is holding on for dear life

[@Narada65]

Just modify the front legs with pins for storing plates. Would be an easy DIY fix if you already own the equipment and an easy update for Rogue to make for future models. Either way, keeping the front legs on the floor is an easily remedied issue.

[@ProgressOverDeath]

Juust picked up the Scout Hyper-built like a tank and takes up almost no space when stored. The only downside? The sleeve length. I’d bet it’s solid up to 3 plates per side, even though the recommended max is lower. Just be ready to use calibrated or weight-cut plates if you need to go higher than 180 lbs….

[@randomusernumber1]

cut the front legs or extend the back by id say an inch and it will stop rocking as you swing back and forth . As for the side to side movement , cant do anything about that , live with it .

[@MeeneshKapadia]

Awesome review! Curious if you have ever tried leg extensions on a RH before?

[@slightlycrookedworkshop]

Sold...whenever it's in stock again...I've been going back and forth about buying one but don't really have the space for the footprint of the RH-2. I disagree with the criticism about not giving "credit" to, or not done in collaboration with Westside. For the one that Titan makes, it looks like Westside's patent expired 6 or 7 years ago.

[@dyardsale5475]

Thanks watching because used one for sale locally.

[@Fleimas]

I have this exact one for over a year now. The only problem I have with it is that I only have big bumper plates at home and cant really fit anything more than 60kg on it. So use at end of session with high reps high sets for back health. Also sometimes do single leg.

[@nickherdzik2743]

What's your thoughts about the max weight this can hold with rubber Competition plates (not metal calibrated plates) compared to something like the Titan Economy PND??? Looks like the loadable sleeve length is only 5.25" compared to 10" on the Titan Economy PND and 10.5" on the Rogue Z Hyper. With a pair of 55's and 45's, the most you can load-up is 200#. I've never used a Reverse Hyper, but I've seen Louie Simmons recommend using 50% of your Back Squat...so if I squat high 300#'s, I'm already approaching the max this thing can hold without dropping money on additional plates. Do you think only being able to load up 200# would be a reason to pass and get another model with longer sleeves?

[@adammikhaiel283]

Those feet coming up are scary lol

[@chadp6297]

Great review

[@alsemporiumoffitness9144]

Titan Fitness Eco H-PND vs Rogue WESTSIDE Scout!

[@0007blitZ]

They can put a cross bar on the front legs with a peg in the center to accept weight on the front.

[@ronalddagostino3674]

agree with others- finally a reverse hyper for my home gym. would have been nice to compare it to the next 1 or 2 cheapest ones. also, you're always so ...apologetic when reviewing cheap stuff. we all realize $350 can't compare to $700,..$1400 etc. The cheapest version and the most expensive version should always be mentioned in a review to provide the best context

[@joerapo]

It would be really easy to drill some holes in the legs and add some weight horns. Even just a 25 on each front leg would probably solve the rocking.

[@rackoflamb65]

Can you do a review on those Rogue Stall Bars?!

[@romansilva00]

what about drilling a hole, the size of a gym pin so you can put like a couple disc in there also in the front legs?

[@RockStarInLife]

Also won’t be able to attach bands on this one like you can with the other versions.

[@kennethflnes947]

Thanks for sharing. Just order one from Rouge Europe. Kenneth, Norway 🇳🇴

[@egtheo]

Thanks for the video showing how unstable it is so I don’t waste money on this one

[@austinschiefelbein1099]

Damn this might be my next big purchase

[@timg531]

Hi! I am 6 foot 5 inches. Will this machine be big enough and comfortable for me?

[@ediot6969]

This is a great piece of kit. I too wish it was manufactured in the great USA, but for my money and smaller home gym it’s perfect. The amount of rocking/lift on the front end seems very minor and not noteworthy, in my opinion. If they hadn’t sold out in what seemed like seconds I would have one now.

[@raulguerrero716]

Good information

[@stevenzak199]

My gym never had a reverse hyper, though the regular hyper bench was one of my favorite pieces there. So I don't know how I'd like a reverse hyper, and if I were to buy a glute machine, I'd opt for a regular hyper bench, and likely a folding one like the Hoist Fitness HF-4263, since I could better predict how I'd like it. (That's about a $300 bench, not cheap, but the commercial Hyper that my gym has is made by Hoist.) That said, if I did ever consider a reverse hyper, I would definitely want a folding one like this, not some monster that would take up half my garage. The fact that this one rocks up off its front feet wouldn't be a deal killer, though I'd really prefer it didn't do that. If I had this machine, I'd be tempted to drop a modest-sized sandbag on one side of that front bar, if it would fit in there without interfering with the pendulum. By the way, here's a review I'd love to see: a comparison between the Free Motion Dual Cable Cross (there are several models that are all similar, with two arms that adjust up-and-down and side-to-side), which my gym (24 hour Fitness) has vs. the similarly functioning Tuff Stuff Proformance Plus machine that I always see Jeff Cavaliere displaying and using in his gym. I've always wondered how those two machines compare but can't find any reviews.

[@Fitforacting]

@8:38 maybe a 30 lb sandbag over that bar in the front to hold it down just like punching bag stand 🧐

[@GarageGymReviews]

Yeah, the problem is your plates will hit the sandbag as there isn't a ton of clearance between the plates and the crossbar.

[@Fitforacting]

Garage Gym Reviews I didn’t even think about that. Thank you. Have you seen the videos were they use the henny attachment connected to the barbell and laying down on a tall play or box to do reverse hypers?

[@bronsonclark9114]

You compare Rogue and Westside to brands like Ford and Lincoln. I see it as a cool, special edition commodity. Compare to Marc Jacobs’ Heaven line. Either way, it’s an awesome product that clearly has a price tag that reflects its brand name and portability.