Roland Jupiter-8 real time sound design | How to make great pads

[@SeverityOne]

Every time I see the asking price for a Jupiter-8, I know it's just too much for a synth. But every time I hear one, I can understand why some people are still prepared to pay that amount of money. Wonderful sounds, Espen.

[@Sandelec-gm2cl]

I am an Happy owner of the boutique version.😅 It's a bad choice remove it and the D-05 from production. I hope Roland make the Jupiter 6....

[@SeverityOne]

@@Sandelec-gm2cl I got a D-550, of which I need to fix the screen. I was a bit too late to jump on the MKS-80 bandwagon, although it's not quite a Jupiter-8 in module form. But there's always the Jupiter-X, no?

[@Sandelec-gm2cl]

@@SeverityOne yes..the ACB technology it's fantastic. The D550's display you can change it..and I saw it in blue color.✌🏻 MKS80 it's too expensive.. and if it will broke in the future.. find the components is hard.

[@SeverityOne]

@@Sandelec-gm2cl All true and very valid points. I'll replace the display, but I have _quite_ a few repairs and updates to do: PSU of a TX802, probably the display of a Proteus 2000, high voltage on the headphones socket of a Morpheus, soldered ROM chip that needs to be socketed in an ESQm, and a Böhn Dynamic 12/24 that makes no sound.

[@Sandelec-gm2cl]

@@SeverityOne wow..the Proteus..😅 You have great instruments..✌🏻

[@nohman2012]

The JP-8 simply sounds epic.

[@bobjoe7508]

A sound all its own. There's analogue and then there's this. I dream of just being able to play one of these for a few minutes!

[@Hoophey]

In all honesty you may not be quite as enamoured with it as you think you might be. They are hyped to an almost biblical status. Remember that in the day, they were thought to be bettered by the MKS80 and at that time many folks upgraded their JP8 to an MKS. For me, the Oberheims are more musical to my ears and richer in sound. JP8 was designed to be more neutral sounding and it really is. A bit like listening to a tube based amp (Obies) versus solid state (Roland). Both great but depends on your flavor preference. If you really must have THAT Roland sound, you can get it in a Juno 6/60 albeit a single oscillator, or seek out an MKS.

[@prototek4187]

@@Hoophey I totally agree. I was shopping for a Jupe 6 or 8 around 16 years ago. My usual used synth shop fortunately had both. I remember the Jup 6 literally made me think, “is this it”? Naturally I’m hoping the 8 sets me straight and I’ll walk home with a new synth (you know the feeling!). I switched to the 8 and was MUCH less impressed! It has a super duper generic tone for one thing. Maybe I was spoiled because I had a Viyetra 8 and a Memorymoog before I tried these? So I wound up buying a Prophet 5. 🤷🏼‍♂️ The 5 doesn’t exactly sound incredibly exotic but it was no where nearly as thin sounding as a Jup 8. Also more organic, definitely. It took me like 2 weeks to get over my Jupiter PTSD! I could not fathom how such a celebrated synth could sound so very boring. My EDP Wasp has a certain tone fingerprint and would eat the Jup for brekky. Not taking sides. I desperately wanted to buy it going in there but alas, my hearing was too good! Sorry guys. 😮

[@synthverkstad2093]

It's a delight just listening to you fiddling around with these patches. Real music! PS: I'm also stuck in the 80s

[@samprock]

First time I dig Jupiter-8 ❤

[@RayyMusik]

One of the very rare videos in which the JP-8 doesn‘t sound thin and tinny. I usually prefer the JP-6, but this patch is brilliant.

[@infindebula]

I love my JP-6, but it is definitely more “thin and tinny” than the JP-8. I certainly can’t afford a Jupiter-8, but in the time I’ve spent with one I usually find myself dialing in the HPF to reduce its girth.

[@jason.martin]

sounds incredible ! wow

[@SamuelWilliamson-z1e]

The Jupiter 8 is my favorite synthesizer. I bought one 8 years ago and when I play it I feel like I can tear a wall down or soothe a baby to sleep. This pad is glorious. Sam from @machiwoomiapoo at work. Take care!

[@cortical1]

Gold, Jerry! Gold, I say!

[@smartti1970]

My favourite synth , paid it 2500.- in a shop in Paris around 1999-2001

[@rhkavli]

Now we only need the filming of Blade Runner III. The soundtrack is finished.

[@prometheusuk9845]

Impressive 😲

[@mimoochodom2684]

Beautiful work.

[@MichaelBarmaley]

that thumb is global synth's warming that's how in Norway will be in feature. Awesome and warm Jupiter

[@EspenKraft]

I just went out to the terrace on morning and the scenery had totally changed from the next day.

[@telantas]

What a beautiful session!

[@AudioLomtik]

Thank you for listing the equipment used in the first few seconds of the video (or description)! I wish everyone did this. How does the sound of the Yamaha DM3 compare to the SSL Six? Also, more patch creation tutorials please :)

[@EspenKraft]

Thanks! Very different mixers of course, in almost all aspects, but whet they have in common is a great transparent sound. I will probably make more patch tutorials later yes. Cheers

[@EuroDJ]

Great sound at high frequencies.

[@melkeronia3139]

I guess the Jupiter is connected to a Strymon Big Sky. Great sound!

[@EspenKraft]

No BigSky here. ;-)

[@kierenmoore3236]

So - those who know well - how close does Roland’s System-8/ACB get to the sound of a vintage Jupiter-8 … ? And what will the new ACB flagship synth be, and when is it coming … ?

[@80ssynthfan48]

There are comparison videos on youtube.

[@iSirTaki]

99%

[@synthverkstad2093]

Close enough!

[@michaeltwiz8477]

The Prophet 10 sounds more "mature" than the Jupiter 8 however the 8 gets you in the feels. It's more of an emotional synth than a "song" synth.

[@PlayGameToday]

Warm sound, like on DSP56300 Virus Ti emulator

[@iSirTaki]

what kind of effects are on the sound?

[@EspenKraft]

Chorus, delay and reverb.

[@connor_flanigan]

(guy you "borrowed" this from) "when am I getting my keyboard back?" (Mr Kraft) "what keyboard?"

[@EspenKraft]

I have dementia now.

[@connor_flanigan]

@@EspenKraft how did you get in my Victorola talking picture box?

[@Substance242]

If you stumble upon Alan Wilder somewhere in Norway, tell him we miss him. :-)

[@EspenKraft]

I'll pass on the message.

[@infindebula]

Is Wilder living in Norway?

[@Substance242]

@@infindebula I noticed that in local depechemode cz/sk news, and quote from wikipedia "In May 2024, Wilder purchased a vacation property in Vestfold, Norway".

[@arakaneuman]

Jupiter 8 is a nice synth but I rather take a Jupiter x and throw in some other nice ones like the 3rd wave, obx8, Prophet 10 and Moog one than a 40 year old synth that will probably cost more than a Waldorf M, an oberheim TEO 5, a moog matriarch and a sequential pro 3 in repairs, ☺️. Nice mustache by the way, Norways answer to Swedish eurodisco superstar Günther.

[@EspenKraft]

The Jup-8 is like the Ring of Power. One synth to rule them all.

[@arakaneuman]

@@EspenKraft and one price buy 'Em All.

[@neworder80]

Jupiter 8 the great n1

[@dankeplace]

That thumb nail bro, would have been great if you were actually there lol.

[@EspenKraft]

That's me right there man.

[@dankeplace]

@@EspenKraft even better!!!

[@Hoophey]

Looks amazing - but honestly, go and buy a brand new OBX-8.

[@EspenKraft]

Two very different synths.

[@Hoophey]

@@EspenKraftbut both great at making analogue polysynth sounds. One for 40k, the other for 5k.

[@EspenKraft]

The price of a Jup-8 is of course ridiculous, but so is the price of a OB-X8. If I'm going to buy a hardware flagship analog polysynth today I sure want it to be analog all the way, which the OB-X8 most certainly isn't. It's much more of a glorified VST in a box than many people are aware of. It's software controlled in almost all aspects apart from the internal oscillators themselves and the filter. 5K+ for that? Forget it. Total scam. That doesn't mean in can't sound good, but so can a VST.

[@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND]

@@EspenKraft Omega 8 with all 4 different filters (jp8 too) is you boy man, all through hole discrete

[@Hoophey]

@@EspenKraft interesting. I know the OB8 had an all analogue signal path but with software control for many parameters too. Do you think that would fall into the same category as the OBX-8 too or is the OB8 significantly different would you say? I saw and enjoyed your video a couple of years ago re the JP8 versus MKS80 Rev 5 and the actual sound difference was quite small. Having had the JP8 for a while now do you still think the same or have your views changed would you say? Thanks....

[@wiseoldfool]

Don't tell, show. You did that. The text overlays are relevant and informative. Once again, you are Espen Kraft, and I am not.

[@lamborghinimiura7625]

I wasn't listening with my eyes. That's the overtone series produced by hardware.