Roland's Forgotten Space Echo - The RE-5 from 1988

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Alex Ball

Alex Ball

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In 1974 Roland released the RE-201 Space Echo. It went on to become the industry standard appearing in studios and live rigs the world over.
They released numerous other successful models (before and after) but the rarest of them all is the RE-5 Digital Space that had a very short run in Japan in 1988.
Its intended application is also quite surprising and in this video we take a look at what it does and contrast it with its famous older brother.
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@angel2of7death
@angel2of7death 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, just gotta say...this channel is phenomenal. Such an excellent source of content and produced so well. Great work!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Robert-kx8mp
@Robert-kx8mp 3 жыл бұрын
Alex, you’re too talented for YT, you need to get on TT :)
@jimharris6389
@jimharris6389 4 жыл бұрын
This thing sounds great! Love the Space Echoes. The RE-301 is my favourite. My Roland Space Echo story: Years ago there was a Cash Convertors on my way to work. I always used to pop in to keep an eye on the music stuff they had. I was in a rush one day and decided to skip a visit. It was very nearly a terrible decision. As I rushed past I couldn't help myself at least glance in the window. Something caught my eye. No, it couldn't be could it? I stopped dead in my tracks. There in the window was the unmistakable vinyl covered cabinet and black and green fascia of a Roland Space Echo. "Amazing! What a find." I thought. It was a 301, the one with built in chorus. "How much?" I wondered. "Cheap as chips, I hope." The price tag was partially hidden by some HiFi equipment. I wasn't holding my breath. The guys were quite savvy in this particular shop and the Internet was common enough even then (early 2000s) that there was a good chance they might have Googled its value; £500-£600 at the time. I peered at the price tag. I could see the word Roland, I assumed the next ones would be Space Echo, but no they weren't. Hallelujah! They've no idea what it is. The label read "Roland Video Editing Machine." How much indeed, you wonder. Well, it was in perfect condition cosmetically and whilst the lights came on and the tape span, it was pretty much DOA. They had nothing to test it with in the shop so I just took the chance. I left it with my tech anyway assuming I hadn't been as lucky as I thought. I get a call a few hours later. "It's ready. Just needed servicing. Strange unit, very early serial number. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a pre-production model, for reviews and the like." £75 that beauty cost me, incuding the service. Where is it now? Long gone sadly. We were musicians knocking about on the dole or jumping between odd jobs. One month it had to go. Where else was I going to get my rent from? Eviction or Roland Space Echo is a tough call. Still not sure I made the right decision even to this day! ;-)
@thomasbosveld3549
@thomasbosveld3549 4 жыл бұрын
great story haha
@stevenmann9769
@stevenmann9769 4 жыл бұрын
The horror!! At least you had fun with it :)
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
Oh well, least you had a few dirty weekends with it!
@bonisdead
@bonisdead 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, my dad sold his Space-Echo to buy me a camera. I love that camera, but I really miss that weird tape-fed delay sound. Years later, he got me the rerelease one pedal for my birthday. Still sounds amazing!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, something beautiful about those fluttery tape delays.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 4 жыл бұрын
I just love all these old school f/x units that are digital. Adds some character to the sounds. Nice video as usual :)
@MangoldProject
@MangoldProject 4 жыл бұрын
Forgotten? I never knew it existed!
@stefpir
@stefpir 3 жыл бұрын
we have so DEEPLY forgot it that we even don't have any souvenirs of it 😂
@GuyGamer1
@GuyGamer1 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the things that makes people prefer analog equipment is that they generally have large knobs. Look how tiny the knob are on this thing. Giving me finger cramps just watching it.
@warius1
@warius1 4 жыл бұрын
digital love I prefer large knobs too.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yep absolutely. Bigger gear feels more like an instrument and allows for more precision.
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 4 жыл бұрын
Large knobs are more fun to polish.
@jacobbrown1690
@jacobbrown1690 4 жыл бұрын
basically the same as the re 20 digital dual pedal
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Very true! I have in fact just made a separate comment about "jamming out" with an RE-201.
@MrAliensix
@MrAliensix 4 жыл бұрын
That's the best use of a TB-303 I've heard in a long while! Great vid, thanks :)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. TB-303 hooked up into the System 100m for triple oscillator fun.
@Matt-zp1jn
@Matt-zp1jn 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Great idea!
@Whaterudoing
@Whaterudoing 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the sound of this unit
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's pretty cool. If I can figure out how to sample convolutions I'll try and make impulses of it.
@TheAerials
@TheAerials 4 жыл бұрын
The upper harmonics really pop with that reverb, love it!
@micooms
@micooms 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to this kind of equipment, Alex Ball’s ‘educated guess’ can be regarded as a very well informed, PhD-educated, highly plausible guess. But that’s just me... great video as always!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
It'll probably turn out that I'm wrong 😆
@Bladavia
@Bladavia 4 жыл бұрын
The more you know the less you think you know ^^
@RosalvoParadella
@RosalvoParadella 3 жыл бұрын
Que vídeo incrível. Esse aparelho RE-5 é basicamente um reverb para karaoke. Vc transformou ele num monstro sonoro !! Muito bom mesmo !!
@waskerbasket9601
@waskerbasket9601 2 жыл бұрын
Love the track at the end
@christofferainek
@christofferainek 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always! There’s something inherently cool about those fluorescent 80s screens, yeah and it actually sounds pretty dope as well 😅
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, reminds me of the digital display on the Roland JX-8P. Also love the digital signal lights too, so satisfying to look at.
@Bladavia
@Bladavia 4 жыл бұрын
Only the best niche and nerdy gems on this channel, you really know your stuff
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I get a lot of help, but it's great to be able to indulge esoteric interests.
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 4 жыл бұрын
Ah. Puts a SPRING in my step on this gray day trapped indoors DAMPING my spirits. Since I missed commenting on the last video, thought I'd give into the IMPULSE to write one without DELAY. I see there is plenty of ROOM SIZE for more comments to ECHO the general sentiments of another fine video production. Upon REFLECTION, I think your Karaoke analysis is spot-on right out of the GATE. It's definitely not all WET, as we used to say in the U.S.
@deanevangelista6359
@deanevangelista6359 2 жыл бұрын
I had an RE-201 Space Echo, and my friend modified it to have "sound on sound," a precursor to looping.
@jenspetersson6009
@jenspetersson6009 4 жыл бұрын
A fine and dandy video...as always interesting and joyful to watch
@richardalldredge9129
@richardalldredge9129 4 жыл бұрын
The bass line on that ending song!!! Man I love it!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The serendipity of jamming with that weird 303 sequencer, you get bass lines like that. :)
@JohnDeltaRaver
@JohnDeltaRaver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video!
@fadplastic
@fadplastic 4 жыл бұрын
Your jam at the end was stellar, such a good feel. Having great gear is awesome, but it take some magic to make these machines sing like this. Have you ever done any composition work Alex? would love to hear you soundtrack something long form.
@sotosonic413
@sotosonic413 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking outro tune as always!
@wickeddubz
@wickeddubz 4 жыл бұрын
That display reminded me the 1st vhs cassette player i watched cartoons on. Nostalgia hits so hard, daaang
@BavonWW
@BavonWW 4 жыл бұрын
All hail the Space Echo and it's prophets the Echoplex, the Copicat, and the Binson Echorec!
@lagirafe1505
@lagirafe1505 4 жыл бұрын
Merci pour toutes tes vidéos Alex ;) Paix
@LukeFaulkner
@LukeFaulkner 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this from my voyages through space.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Were you passing Jupiter or are you more Promars?
@LukeFaulkner
@LukeFaulkner 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Haha, I saw a Fantom on Juno and was scared so returned to Cubase.
@NeilVanceNeilVance
@NeilVanceNeilVance 4 жыл бұрын
For me the early Human League and Dave Stewart Eurythmics. Again another excellent video Alex thank you.
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 жыл бұрын
Dave stewart really amazing considering the sweet dreams album was made at home on 8 track with not a lot more than a great british spring reverb , a juno , a movement drums , prophet , simmons and lot of vocal talent
@nonsuch
@nonsuch 4 жыл бұрын
I added MIDI IN to my JUNO-6. It's a Godsend! Cool vid!
@electronictiger
@electronictiger 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man! I much enjoy these dives into (obscure) pieces of kit. They are always inspiring. Despite not having access to the hardware myself.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, I'm very lucky with what I'm loaned for videos because I've never heard of a lot of it myself. Makes it kind of a joint exploration with the viewers.
@randomaztec2208
@randomaztec2208 4 жыл бұрын
Tune at the end was sweet
@DeadOnArrival
@DeadOnArrival 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like an SH-1000 in your collection there... Just love the jam at the end, what a lovely fusion of tech.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That is indeed an SH-1000. It's been on a long term loan and will return to its owner sometime after the current lockdown. Enjoyed having it around for a year or so.
@fincorrigan7139
@fincorrigan7139 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Crikey, it's a marvellous sounding machine.
@McN4styFilth
@McN4styFilth 4 жыл бұрын
Being locked down leaves me with all the time in the world to watch your kickass videos! The RE5 is an oddity for sure. Sound is pretty ehhhh. Thanks for sharing it with us!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes, the RE-5 was something I was pretty confident nobody would have heard of. An oddity as you say.
@PadraicPlaugher
@PadraicPlaugher 4 жыл бұрын
Love those multi taps!
@Chevytravelleruk
@Chevytravelleruk 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video there Alex.. loving the channel
@c4li
@c4li 3 жыл бұрын
dang that drums demo sounded super massive attack.
@singlesideman
@singlesideman 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this remind me of 'Look Around You'? Especially at 5:04.
@sweenyjp
@sweenyjp 7 ай бұрын
Love it Reminds me of Boards of Canada
@cassiomachado8134
@cassiomachado8134 4 жыл бұрын
4:18 damn that plantasia timbre lit
@N1K5TA
@N1K5TA 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Alex always great❤ take care
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nik, and you.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Never heard of that...
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Next up on bad gear...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic After the Corona lockdown for sure ;)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Can the Corona Virus itself be used as "Bad Gear"?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Why, cough, not, chough...
@dave-dl7zp
@dave-dl7zp 3 жыл бұрын
So friggin sick
@machiwoomiapoo
@machiwoomiapoo 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍. I love it :) Take care, Sam.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! Hope you're well!
@itsJoel59
@itsJoel59 10 ай бұрын
What synth are you playing in the first half of the video? The one with the keyboard. Sounds amazing, loved that sequenced bit!
@TheDeedeeFiles
@TheDeedeeFiles 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your findings ! That was a very fun video and the jam at the end put a smile on my face :p take care, cheers :) :) :)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I sincerely hope you and your familly are OK ! Thank you for all of your videos, your music, and all the positive energy ! they are priceless at the moment
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@LouisSerieusement Thank you. Yes, we're keeping OK. Groundhog Day but really we've nothing to complain about compared to some. I've used some of the time to get the ARP documentary finished so that'll be hitting very soon. :) Hope you're safe and well?
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Cool ! Can't wait the Arp documentary :p I watch lot's of music related doc, but yours always nailed it, probably because you are a fantastic musician and awesome engineer ^^ ..Thanks for the great content :p I'm lucky I have basic income that almost pays the rent so it's fine :) and I still teach music to people around the earth (via whatsapp and teamviewer) so my life is not that different and I can't complain at all ; my familly is safe (even my little sister who works at the hospital in Mulhouse..for now she is strong and calm and I call here everyday) Plus Studio environement is a lot safer than any place (most of the time) :) Cheers and good luck ! See you later in the Arp documentary comment section :p
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hopefully everyone will have time to watch a two hour synth documentary given the situation. Glad you're doing OK. The work situation is tricky for sure, so good to hear you've got some safety net to soften the blow. Stay safe and see you on the next one. 🙂
@JoeyLevenson
@JoeyLevenson Жыл бұрын
I used to find tons of these in stores where I live. As I had a real space Echo, I just didn’t want to listen to it but it actually sounds pretty good.
@less_concerned1221
@less_concerned1221 4 жыл бұрын
That sounded killer!! And I have an RE-200 (black and silver) and RE-301. Gotta get myself a synth.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
The 200 is the precursor, right? That must be fairly rare!
@less_concerned1221
@less_concerned1221 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Ball it is! It has a special cartridge that takes a lot more tape than the 201 loop. My 200 sounds different than my 301, but it could be mostly from the tape.
@f.herumusu8341
@f.herumusu8341 4 жыл бұрын
5:47 "Alan Carter presses his hands on his ears with his face distorted from the pain, while the Psychons send the telepathic message 'Kill Comander Koenig!' Can Helena save the day?" I miss the seventies! ;)
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 4 жыл бұрын
F. Herumusu WOW! You must be my age! I actually got the reference. And I agree.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly that!
@f.herumusu8341
@f.herumusu8341 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I swear, for a fraction of a second I looked like this vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aliens/images/2/24/KrenoAnimal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160402025158 when you set the RE-201 in self-oscillating mode.
@f.herumusu8341
@f.herumusu8341 4 жыл бұрын
@@wingflanagan 52 now. High-risk group, as they call us now. :D
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, TB-303 through an RE-201. Instant soundage.
@rumham9911
@rumham9911 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, glad to see the RE-5 finally given some time in the spotlight! :) I've had one of these for a couple years and its a weird and rare bird indeed, very clean and at times sterile sound but the EQ can warm things up sufficiently and it definitely has a character to it. My unit has no English labelling with everything in japanese which is a fun stand-out quirk. Like your guesses I am pretty positive given this units I/O and japanese market exclusivity it was ment for karaoke bars at the time which is very popular there.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
A-ha, you have the other one! ;) Can't be many of these knocking around. Interesting to know there's a Japanese only version. Makes sense given the intended market. Is your digital display in Japanese too?
@rumham9911
@rumham9911 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Ball Indeed I do :) The display is the same as in your video, the parameter labels however are lined up in the flip-out hatch like this, apologies for a bit of dust, this surface has proven difficult to keep speck-free! i.imgur.com/y7dybNT.jpg
@MarcWeertsMusic
@MarcWeertsMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Ninosmusic
@Ninosmusic 4 жыл бұрын
listening to this thing on studio monitors gave me the chills! Alex I have a question. The jams you compose usually to demo gear, are they mixed/mastered by yourself? Sounds so crisp
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I usually mix / master these little jams myself but my proper performance tracks have been mostly mixed by Jakob at Sonic Peak for about 9 months or so now. Another of those will be up next week.
@dynomited6243
@dynomited6243 3 жыл бұрын
Bad ass track brother!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 4 жыл бұрын
fantastic organic sound
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
The 201 or the 5?
@thisklik
@thisklik 4 жыл бұрын
Nice song in the end!!!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@stevenmann9769
@stevenmann9769 3 жыл бұрын
Very 'self control' on the TR606 :)
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
Love this jam!! Sounds lovely. Definitely produced for karaoke applications. Hence the BGM input and look. Sold my Space Echo 201 because i have the Korg Stage Echo and it sounds better. #unpopularopinion I don’t keep gear because it’s famous and looks good, i’m a creator not a collector.
@pigknickers2975
@pigknickers2975 4 жыл бұрын
7:21 This starts off so well!!!!!
@Eric-LB
@Eric-LB 4 жыл бұрын
This could be a B-side off Simian Mobile Disco - Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release.
@kostantinosmag2986
@kostantinosmag2986 3 жыл бұрын
This is nice one🎶💯🎶💯🎶💯🎶
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it but looks like they used tweaked delay algorythms that came from their dep 5 and sde3000, sounds very similar
@michaels8597
@michaels8597 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@klinkske
@klinkske 4 жыл бұрын
RE-3 right here in the studio. Forgot about that? Bigger knobs 🤩
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. I looked at the RE-3 to see if the RE-5 is related and they're totally different. The RE-3 seems much more common. Probably because it isn't a weird karaoke system! Hopefully try one at some point.
@ThoughtsEtcEtcEtc
@ThoughtsEtcEtcEtc 3 жыл бұрын
Ah man I used to have an MXR Flanger that turned my 606 into a mutant, how I miss that pedal.
@t55a2
@t55a2 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@BWPT.
@BWPT. 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Space Echo's pound shop equivalent, the Roland DC-30, found it in a skip in the 90s!
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 4 жыл бұрын
Great analog effect!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Is it any good? See those crop up from time to time.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I liked the one I owned. A simple solid state echo, on a par with the units that came out under many brand names such as Melos. I sold the DC-30 during a bout of student induced poverty, but don't really miss it. Wish I could say the same for the Roland RE-501 Chorus Echo (the top of the line space echo) that I owned back then. Bought second hand for £100 from Andertons in Guildford when they were just a small backstreet shop, circa 1992.
@BWPT.
@BWPT. 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Sounds a bit dull and the quality fades as the delay goes on, standard analogue bucket brigade business though, I kind of like it though for the qualities listed. It's also got a chorus in it too only it's never worked on mine, probably why it was binned, should be easy to fix though when I ever get round to it!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@chriswareham Interesting, thank you. I might be able to borrow a 501 at some point, one I've never tried.
@Rhythmicons
@Rhythmicons 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 301~
@st0rmchild
@st0rmchild 4 жыл бұрын
Boss jam at the end, as usual!
@PatrickRosenbalm
@PatrickRosenbalm 3 жыл бұрын
Cooool Find!! and very Interesting. However, That thing needs a good cleaning. Especially the VFD tube and the plastic window in front of it. Both sides. ;-)
@kactus_kooler
@kactus_kooler 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have one of these units and it is in need of repair, I've been searching high and low for a service manual, but to no avail. You wouldn't happen to have the schematics would you?
@kevinsturges6957
@kevinsturges6957 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds absolutely great! I was expecting it to be terrible, but I have one of the original tape/reverb units and this sounds almost the same. Seriously. Would you be able to tell if you didn’t see it that this was digital?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
It does sound good. The delay on the first preset is a bit too static and digital but the others sound surprisingly organic.
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 4 жыл бұрын
No week goes by without me seeing one of these in YT-videos, so to me it seems hardly forgotten. some have usses with the tape, though. So it needs some more maintenance.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Watch the video. It's not about the RE-201. 🙂
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I admit/confess, I didn't watch it yet, but the title wasn't too inviting to me because of this. I rather often see people claiming things to be forgotten (a.o. Stewart Copeland of the Police) because they don't know them. Apologies for being premature.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frits. The title and thumbnail are designed to seem curious and actually the answer is in the thumbnail itself, it's just not what it seems. I did make sure to answer that within the first minute of the film though, but can understand some confusion if someone hasn't watched it.
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Thx for the explanation. I start my day with scanning what youtube offers. I watch one or two easy digestible vlogs, and mark those that need/deserve more attention for later. Yours was one of the latter. When needed, IMO, I sometimes add a comment, based on face value. In a way risky business ;-)
@helisoma
@helisoma 6 ай бұрын
edit: found out the RE-3 which preceded this was $750 or 600 pounds and only mono instead of stereo input....so the RE-5 must have been even more expensive like $900-1000 🙀 and these don't have a big feature set like the then available DEP5, so it makes sense there was no market...just got a like new one from Japan but oddly the english script and chart for the little buttons is completely missing...the inside back panel is completely black which I've seen in other youtube vids. April 6th edit: I tried the AUX inputs and they didn't work from my Juno-6, but then it was on the VD1 input (how do you change inputs?). Interestingly I noticed you plugged in your SH-1 into mic 1 input, since it's a mono synth. However, I've found that plugging in the stereo output from my Juno-6 into mic1 and mic2 acts like a stereo input and works really well. 🙂 This is a very nice natural warm sounding reverb and echo, with more depth than my Strymon Brig, El Capistan and Cloudburst (which all sound nice but not the same level).
@vedabou
@vedabou 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Outro song!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
So the real irony is that the 1974 model RE-201 outlived the RE-5 Digital Space Echo, a 1988 (only) model! Sound good anyway, IMO!
@Megallicafan18
@Megallicafan18 4 жыл бұрын
oh man, using the self oscillation for drum sounded so Aphex!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally.
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 жыл бұрын
And he listened very carefully to early severed heads and things like sakamoto b2 unit , that is where he nikked from
@nebula0697
@nebula0697 4 жыл бұрын
alex ball goodness starts at 9:05
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 4 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough space echo. Got the more affordable Boss RE-20 love it on Subsequent.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Been years since I played an RE-20. Are they good, I honestly can't remember?
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Imho you can't go wrong with Boss pedals, they are my go-to pedal yet I also got a Strymon BlueSky reverb (very nice). Also use a Boss DD-200 delay on Subsequent. Bit a Boss and echo/delay fanboy I guess. The RE-20 can be used as an instument in its own right, great fun for soundscaping! 101 it will sound different to the RE-201 but hey even two 808s or MiniMoogs can sound different.
@kebman
@kebman 4 жыл бұрын
Self-oscillate? Sounds more like a controlled feedback-loop. Fun when made manually with the 1/4" tape recorder.
@GaitaPonto
@GaitaPonto 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@SnatchNuman
@SnatchNuman 3 жыл бұрын
8:58 Is that Geert's Juno-6? ;)
@Dolores5000
@Dolores5000 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@MichaelSouhoka
@MichaelSouhoka 3 жыл бұрын
Ah... I see. Because of that video I/O it make sense to me that RE-5 was intended as an effect for LaserDisc players, rather than for musical instruments. Why LaserDisc? Back in 1988, the karaoke bar was so popular and the LaserDiscs were the machines and media to play the karaoke songs. Specific types of LaserDisc player machines have the pitch control and the multi-audio systems to choose the audio between vocals and music. And I think this RE-5 was focused to enhanced the vocals when we are singing. That's why RE-5 is not a good competitor for RE-201. Haha...
@st0rmchild
@st0rmchild 4 жыл бұрын
Your karaoke theory is almost certainly correct. Where did you find this thing?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I reckon so. Can't think of any other application that would warrant this combination of inputs and outputs. Would love to know for sure! I borrowed it, I'd never heard of it before.
@Ferrichrome
@Ferrichrome 4 жыл бұрын
Oo, this makes me want some rack mount FX.
@charlesfichter68
@charlesfichter68 4 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing vid, where the heck did you get this tho
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
People help me out with this channel basically. It's borrowed.
@seneric1727
@seneric1727 4 жыл бұрын
Did your 303 went skiing Alex ?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
It was in the Japanese winter olympics team 1984.
@TDRKB
@TDRKB 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex, some great gear porn to help pass the COVID-19 isolation away. I am surprised you didn't dress up with a Japanese Karaoke style costume and do a show. Very interesting. You must admit the Re-201 with its landmark colour scheme does look way more cooler!!!
@wlattkouzd
@wlattkouzd 4 жыл бұрын
That jam at the end gives me quite vaporwareish feel. So, is there a difference between the sound the synths produce today and 30 years ago? Old ones feel more... Warm?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Vintage synths and FX sound like classic records because that's what they were used to make, yes. There's plenty of vintage turkeys, but the best sounding synths I've ever heard are all from the 70s or early 80s.
@weareallbeingwatched4602
@weareallbeingwatched4602 4 жыл бұрын
I have learned to appreciate digital distortion, so I thought the initial self oscillation demo sounded most fabulous.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, if used right it's quite cool on this unit. Digital distortion is usually horrible.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 4 жыл бұрын
Why was is discontinued??
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Good question! I don't know the answer.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the RE-3 model being reviewed in Music Technology magazine back when it was released - this is the first I'd heard of an RE-5 model. The conclusion in MT was that it's an interesting effects unit, but not quite the recreation of the original Space Echo sound that it was intended to be.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I think I've read that very article. I was trying to see if the RE-5 was similar but it's totally different. It's interesting that the RE-5 emulates tape wow and flutter, I would have thought that was something they were trying to get away from in 1988. It's definitely not an RE-201, but it's something else and I like it.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic One of those rare occasions where Roland tried to recreate their past under founder Ikutaro Kakehashi, who wasn't keen on that approach. As you say, the RE-5 is definitely something to be appreciated for its own quirks.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I hadn't considered that. It was indeed a hark back under Mr K, which wasn't his style. Good point.
@markmills586
@markmills586 Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 90s, the other guitarist in my band used an RE-3. He got some great sounds out of it, which kinda makes me want to get hold of one now.
@drthorpe8602
@drthorpe8602 4 жыл бұрын
wooow! sounds amazing on drums, a bit like Marie Davidson - Work It (Soulwax remix). Are there any plug-ins that would produce a similar effect on drums?
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 4 жыл бұрын
Does it process the video at all?
@Kevinrothwell1959
@Kevinrothwell1959 4 жыл бұрын
:-)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know for certain what the video input / output are for but it seems like it's for lyric read outs for karaoke and it runs through the RE-5 for sync reasons.
@lukeburkett5645
@lukeburkett5645 3 жыл бұрын
It looks my parents' first VCR
@lukeburkett5645
@lukeburkett5645 3 жыл бұрын
Sanyo 3900-ii
@lukeburkett5645
@lukeburkett5645 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the top gate opening reminded me of the doors from the Back To The Future car
@_P_M_
@_P_M_ 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get a hold of this stuff???
@PaulOBrienComposer
@PaulOBrienComposer 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, have you heard of Oliver Harper's channel? Your voices sound identical!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I know Oliver's stuff. Our voices are in the same ballpark.
@nativeVS
@nativeVS 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with the SDE3000 as my digital Roland delay of choice.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That's the one used by a lot of guitarists right? Steve Vai etc?
@nativeVS
@nativeVS 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I think so, and Bob Clearmountain used to swear by them. Tangerine Dream are to blame for me buying them.
@cmath8577
@cmath8577 4 жыл бұрын
nativeVS ...great delay on just about anything ....yes....but there are little tricks that Bob does with the SDE to create the tape like smoothness so it sits behind the vocals perfectly... not that it’s too bright. ...but when you jack up the vocal at 10k on the E series ..one must tame the rest of the chain....unfortunately we don’t have Bobs ears modeled!
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@nativeVS it was my first digital delay , warm but pretty noisy, the dep 5 is equally noisy but more unique sounding when you modulate the delay with the chorus
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@cmath8577 it was very good for creating room reverb on small milliseconds , that was how i used it , not as a conventional delay unit
@allanjazzera7630
@allanjazzera7630 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Nelson drums !
@daemonelectricity
@daemonelectricity 4 жыл бұрын
Well, i don't hate that reverb. Is that a digital reverb?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, totally digital. Does sound quite nice, especially on the Juno at the end.
@RickDrift
@RickDrift 4 жыл бұрын
So What do you do with that Orange amp on your desk?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That's my Orange OB-1 300 bass guitar amp. It's hooked into my interface for direct recording of bass guitar but I sometimes use it for other things as it has EQ and overdrive.
@RickDrift
@RickDrift 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I have onen sitting around from when i used to be in a band. I was always wondering how to incorporate it. Do you need a cab or loadbox for it?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I use it at as a bass pre-amp basically. Then run it into my audio interface. You can hook it up with a cab and mic it up too if you want that sound, but I haven't got space for that.
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