Rolex Oyster Perpetual And The Best No-Date Watches Of 2021: Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, More

[@randyallen2771]

Great show Tim!! You covered some interesting ground. Glad to see IWC get some attention, especially the anti shock flieger. Also like the quick nod to the new Omega Chronoscope.

[@danieladamblanco853]

The Breitling pistachio or the new Zenith Chronomaster Original boutique edition? They may seem like very different watches but i am in love with both.

[@jcb0920]

Yatch-Master available in the case or with very little wait? I've been on a list with two local AD's here in Raleigh, NC for almost a year waiting for one. Love to know where they're sitting around waiting to be had.

[@jimlittle5769]

Every one of these videos is a learning experience. As always, thank you Tim!

[@jimlittle5769]

@@the1916companywatchreviews My pleasure TIm. Always great stuff.

[@styx4947]

The Breitling premiere is my "grail" chronograph. I like to collect in category. I haven't found my Dress, or Sports "grails" yet. But the Premiere is a lock.lol. The hunt goes on!

[@amickinflorida9008]

Thanks again Tim and crew. Long Show today, loved it. Watching today with the new yacht master rose and black face. But loving the Omega GMT too. ADs definitely controlling the trickle of stock in all brands now. Best wishes!

[@amickinflorida9008]

Choice? Hahaha😁😂

[@pattiebe8158]

I like the lottery idea for Rolex allocations from AD’s 👌 everyone would be happy with that

[@ricdaij]

Well stated on the lottery for Rolex watches, I completely agree with your assessment and solution.

[@jimlittle5769]

The Breitling Pistachio, the only Breitling that has ever done it for me. LOVE IT!

[@jumboJetPilot]

Me too! I’d love to see them do a simple, three-handed version. I’d toss a dark green gator strap on it.

[@zetoch]

Another excellent show. Thank you Tim for promoting again the brilliant idea of a lottery. If only Rolex could listen.

[@thomasmack7147]

Omega is on the rise and expect no regrets. I have vintage and current models Omega and Rolex and love my Omegas that’s for sure.

[@dannysimenauer5745]

Another great Monday session Tim! Regarding the Rolex "shortage", Rolex did ignore the "elephant in the room". While the AD's have no supply in their showroom cases, the gray market has a large supply of most models at premium prices. My take is the AD's have been selling unlimited quantities to their large customers, who buy whatever they want and flip it to the gray market at a profit. Us the watch collecting public is not expecting to get a rare watch like the Daytona, but I would love to buy a Pepsi or Batman to enjoy and keep (i.e. NOT flip). At a minimum, Rolex should increase the supply of the Oyster Perpetuals to make available to first time buyers. My solutions : A) I think if the AD's would only sell one model of Rolex to a client then more would be available for first time buyers. B) A second solution would be for Rolex to take orders directly over the Internet, and fulfill them through the AD's. This would insure that one large client cannot hoard all of the in demand models and flip them. Tim also nailed it by suggesting Rolex stop making the least popular models like the Yacht Masters and two tone Daytona models. I also fully agree that us watch collectors should stop buying Rolex and go for the other high quality brands. Collectively, this will force Rolex and its AD's to earn our loyalty again.

[@steelwarrior105]

Yeah, the fact that i can easily get any rolex I want for over retail is a problem. I mean there shouldn't be thousands of ops out there for 2k over...

[@Dr.K-MD.DMD.]

Great vid. Also great remark on buying other brands with complications in precious metal over a Rolex. Same as pp nautilus or aquanaut. You are paying for the hype and not the quality and craftsmanship! You can buy more then one PP with complication compared to a nautilus.

[@Dr.K-MD.DMD.]

@@the1916companywatchreviews that’s indeed a very beautiful patek 👌

[@trJones]

The tech and spec you expect, on a Patek. Nice wordsmithing on that one.

[@bradg.5253]

Love the Skydweller. I’ve seen both the blue and white dial versions. I know the blue dial is most popular but I love the clean looking white dial version.

[@gpearce11]

The Skydweller is a truly excellent watch. In fact, the steel Skydweller is honestly the only Rolex that I truly desire over an equivalent model from other brands (I generally prefer Omega).

[@robfilmer]

Great show!

[@derosa1989]

The Rolex situation is a perfect storm. In the era of the internet, there is never any thing as "sold out" - the product simply moves to the secondary channels at "market prices". The problem today is fake speculative market pricing (and this isn't limited to watches). If a vinyl record is unavailable through normal distribution channels, and there is more demand than supply, some flipper will list one on ebay or discogs for $1,000. Whether they ever actually sell at these prices or not, it's creating new frameworks for price expectations. Brands like Rolex who control their production choices, whether to invest or not in new production, or let the wild west of prices go crazy in the secondary market only benefit from the "scarcity drives demand" side of the equation. Since covid, bikes are in the same situation due to supply chain problems in a market with hot demand. These imbalances have spread all over the globe, and it's not going back.

[@robcarrier1969]

Appreciate your thoughts on the Rolex situation. Do you think, if the Rolex bubble burst, people would see it as the golden opportunity to buy the watch they always wanted, or would the appeal disperse with the value? I think we know...

[@lankysudanese]

Thanks for the 3rd wristshot entry acceptance. I feel like I’ve won in life 🤣🤣

[@davidr2802]

Tim is the absolute best at incredulity. You would never know he works for a grey market dealer and every week he hawks a boatload of Rolex selling for 2-3 times retail while the Rolex AD which owns that very grey market dealer has empty display cases and years long wait list. Yet he comes across every time as surprised as Tarzan being laughed at when he walked into say a Philly Rolex AD and asked for a Sub and Daytona at discuount when he discusses the "crazy" fact that Rolex at selling on the grey market 2-3-4 times the retail price. Priceless.

[@philippm2750]

In London Rolex ADs now display steel submariners and two-tone GMTs in their shop windows together with a "only for exhibition" sign. Eye candy, if anything.

[@DonLee1980]

That's what AP boutiques do too. What's wrong with that? Some people actually want to be able to see in person, or try on for the sake of knowing of sizing before just blindly ordering online from chrono, or at least know the watch they are waiting for years is actually as nice in person as they expect

[@GailitisPrintmaking]

Could I say that the Rolex Air-King is a cooler cousin of Explorer?

[@mikehoward9912]

Great as always. I'm going to gouge my eyes out if I see any more pics of Rolex. They produce 1 million pc's a year $ 14 k for a Submariner on eBay. They must be smoking crack. A slightly used chronograph from Zenith, Breguet or JLC Entry level A.Lange is $17000 and they're 4000 pcs produced year. Now that is exclusive.

[@msteaks1939]

When Rolex is hyping its own scarcity then you know there is trouble in the market. A bubble truly exists when self-interested market forces stop asking when the bubble will burst.

[@salmana4239]

It’s not rocket science. They can review the gray market and trace how brand new watches landing their ( serial no’s) and stop supplying to ADs who feed into the secondary markets

[@JS-ev4xc]

Alternate Rolex models are gd suggestion but still on the price rise in general. Suggestion of buying alternate brands are not viable because of their low value retention, they lack the security of what Rolex hv.

[@MrPolowu]

I cannot wait for the no date Yacht Master! Good show as ever Tim and Team.

[@chrislee6691]

It’s snot uncool to me either Tim. Great show!

[@styx4947]

Not sure about the lottery but maybe something like this: a dealer gets 100 Cosmographs per year, but 50 of them must be put in the case for anyone to walk in and buy. The other 50, the AD can earmark for anyone he wants to.

[@styx4947]

@@the1916companywatchreviews That's something I did not know. Thanks again for always bringing us not just the watches but the Myths and Mania, the lies and legends as well. And occasionally good content.lol The best watch content on the web. IMO. And doesn't it always happen when we get, what seems to us a perfect solution to the Rolex non sense there is always a detail and a devil to go with it and so back to the drawing board. Lol thanks again

[@mikecooper3epstudios]

I chose Breitling sea wolf and Girard perregaux seahawk over Rolex

[@davidjb3671]

Singapore is nominally the 5th largest watch market in the world, yet all 3 major AD's here tell me they can only get very few watches, and the brand boutiques are empty. Yet the grey market is overflowing with 'New' pieces. So my question is where are the current production watches actually going? Seems to me there are only two possibilities: 1) Direct to China 2) Straight out the back door to the grey market. Can anyone really answer this question?

[@fadiinspace]

I got the same answer from an AD here in israel ( very small market in comparison) but basically they said they cannot order a watch for you since they cannot control what rolex brings them and its scarce

[@gelmibson883]

Great take on Rolex. Keep it up!

[@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508]

The new and 2020 no date Submariner has increased by damn near $4,000 in six months!!!

[@emexokezie7796]

Rolex watches, like most are assembled by hand, that's unarguably true... What the question of doubt would be is if they claimed that they were 'hand made'! Cheers 🥂

[@nikomos6276]

Preach on brotha Tim

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

tim, you and I seem to have the exact same taste when it comes to watches, literally all the ones you find genuinely cool, i do as well, your rationale for loving a watch is unquestionable to someone like me. Now all I need is a wallet fat enough for those debethunes and other in house high horology superwatches! hahah please talk to the CEO about a custom (tim mosso) TMDB01 model gotta have it!

[@FirestormAA]

Arrrrrh missed the live show by 20min. Hi Tim & crews. Is 6am in Singapore.

[@FirestormAA]

@@the1916companywatchreviews I wouldn't missed it for sure Tim, will be awesome!

[@SusloNick]

IWC needed a special 'halo' watch

[@Montuckz]

getting more interested in IWC. but their jumbo crowns ruin every watch i see.

[@papricep6248]

Going to a lottery allocation system would hurt Rolex as a brand because ADs would have no part in it. The big appeal of carrying Rolex to AD is the extra sales of less desirable stock they generate.

[@killazx9]

"PP increased the supply of the 5711 and it didn't help" - because it only benefits the people who has inside tracks and they hold even more inventory in their hands, selling them one by one with a price bump on each piece sold. PP cannot realistically make enough to satisfy the demand because most of these buyers are flippers. And then we have people who buy these as "investments". You only need one to wear but for investments, having 10 is not a crazy idea.

[@christopherpettway]

That green is easy on the eyes 👀 I would wear it or I'll have 10 of those thanks 😊

[@styx4947]

Just as I said last week about the Nautilus, watch collectors do not buy them. Obscenely rich people who want to have the one that all their rich friends have.

[@salmana4239]

Greetings from Dubai Rolex’s statement confirms that they know of all the issues ADs causing but will not intervene to bring in transparency on how allocations are made. They make great watches but don’t give a damn of the customer experience. People need to wise up and not pay premiums of their watches.

[@salmana4239]

@@the1916companywatchreviews I had big hopes for Omega until snoopy arrived. Atleast in Dubai they are behaving just like Rolex as far as transparency on allocation process is concerned I have only found Vacheron Constantin acting with full disclosure and transparency.

[@styx4947]

That definition of a function is valid only if it's a bi-jection(a one-one mapping) and invertable. lol. Just being pedantic. But as long we're here we should say it should also be continuous and differentiable i.e. smooth. Lol

[@thor_86]

If in doubt, read about hodinkee's visit to rolex, there is a lot more hands on than you think, Tim. Fact: even hand finishing happens there.

[@hobbybobby6767]

A lottery is a good idea for new people to get a chance-there’s nothing stopping Govberg from implementing that as part of their allocation system right?

[@mackm3875]

I kid you not Milgauss has gone up since this video posted a little over 2hrs ago. Oddly enough, it's my favorite Rolex. Still, this insanity of the leading models is unquestionably going to drive sales on less popular models like this.

[@mackm3875]

@@the1916companywatchreviews I can appreciate that 100%, but I pulled them as I watched your video. I did not see the same prices you have here. Honest to goodness.

[@jimlittle5769]

No Date Sub, $8100 before taxes. No Chance for a discount. Omega Seamaster 300M $5200 before taxes. That's a $2900 difference before taxes and over 3k difference after taxes. And you likely get a discount with the Omega so closer to 4K less. And, you know, you can get it new at an AD right now in at least three of the four colors.

[@jumboJetPilot]

@@the1916companywatchreviews Amen!

[@fadiinspace]

If only omega made the smallest effort to produce a better balanced whatch

[@jimlittle5769]

Kia Telluride. Very cool SUV.

[@jimlittle5769]

@@the1916companywatchreviews No, definitely not any money over MSRP cool ;-)

[@bbrebozo6417]

The lottery thing & floating the price to the market would help, but there would be lottery ticket flipping and shenanigans. For example, they would call the average Joe to offer him a Cellini, while the big shot would get the opportunity to buy the Daytona.

[@saymyname218]

Love the shirt.

[@kwoktony6416]

I may sound stupid here but why dont rolex just free up the production capacity of lady datejust for more popular sports watches? i'd be happy to wait one year for a daytona instead of two

[@jumboJetPilot]

I’ve said the same thing about several brands for years now. They don’t have to increase production, they just need to do a better job of adjusting production to match what customers want. As for Rolex specifically, I think they could disband the entire Cellini collection and nobody would take notice. Think about how much they could then devote production assets towards their popular models if they did that!

[@patricknaswell2686]

Tim finally made a mistake. There’s nothing wrong with a Telluride if you’re a family man (read old with kids to tote around). 😝

[@Jack-S4097]

The lottery you are thinking about could end up being a flippers dream. Buyers with no interest in horology and just looking to double or triple their money might toss their name into the hat. At least now JQ public need a relationship with an AD in most cases in order to get a desired model. I know my AD would be wondering why my Sub or GMT is never on my wrist. The winners of a lottery wouldn’t have anyone wondering if they were anonymous to any AD.

[@jwdepriest]

I loved the salmon dial Breitling in person but I was not a big fan of that green pistachio.

[@edwintschopp1493]

I love no date watches.

[@herbmerced7780]

Excellent!

[@watchnorthlondon]

Unfortunately the Diet Pepsi can is too big.

[@frankm4129]

Sorry Tim but nothing makes you feel like a Rolex it’s a matter of looks too for me they are the best looking watch When you put it on your wrist it makes you feel good

[@Nefville]

Wave interference? Check out that double-slit experiment, very interesting example of that with a really good visual example of the interference pattern. Sorry I hear something like that I'm going to go down a rabbit hole.

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Phist

[@smoothsweep5022]

Hey guys

[@brianmason744]

Yes lottery

[@Jalartifact]

Mercedes hands 😴

[@rctezluh42069]

upvoted!

[@jarinorvanto4301]

The face diaper has withdrawn... lurking, for a strong comeback?