Rolex Submariner 116610LN VS Seiko SPB143

Thank you all for the continued support. In this video we take a look at the Rolex Submariner Ref#116610LN and the Seiko SPB143. I give you my thoughts in regards to the Rolex costing $13,000 more than the Seiko and if it's worth it.
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[@DavidSchwartzjr]

Okay I definitely can see the appeal, it looks great in your wrist bro, but yes, the games with ADs and overhyped prices with the gray market are a major turn off. The SPB oozes tool watch vibe, the Rolex oozes brand recognition and flex 😅

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’m glad you see my perspective, thank you 🙏 for the support #tudorbros

[@steelsteez6118]

Yep not dealing with those games. Don't care how nice a watch is.

[@BDawgCrypto]

The spb143 will increase in value in the next decade. The love for this watch grows and grows. An instant classic.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Absolutely agree

[@thebeardedone6741]

I got mine for 500

[@jimclip2012]

I paid $816 grey market from Sakura, that’s now up to around $975.

[@daveLin104]

Do you think so I keep thinking about selling mine you think keep ?

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

@daveLin104 I know preowned ones are selling for less than retail. From a financial standpoint it makes no sense selling yours unless you need the $ to buy another watch. Best of luck 👍🏼

[@BB-gl7zt]

Nice review and well articulated. I have both (well the SPB149) but I find myself wearing and enjoying the Seiko more. It's a more honest and worry free watch to wear.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for watching and I’m glad you own an SPB. There’s something special about that watch ❤️

[@1250GSX]

I sold my sea dweller 16600 over COVID as the prices for Rolex were ridiculous. Banked the money and bought an SPB143 as a replacement. The only affordable watch that scratched that itch.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Nice 👏

[@melvsdlp9293]

I love how relaxed and calm you are when you speak.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for watching!

[@Matchedfilter]

I appreciate your honest thoughts and perspective 👍 Your spb143 video was how I originally discovered your channel 😀

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 and the SPB truly is a special watch. Take care and have an amazing weekend!

[@timelesssneakersandwatches]

Nice perspective! I remember this day lol. Both awesome watches no doubt. Great video bro 👏👏👏

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you Omar ❤️ I can’t believe it’s been a year since we filmed that b-roll.

[@miguelzap9269]

I have the 143 and recently picked up the 147 version. I'd recommend both to anybody but the 147 is absolutely nuts. Just a gorgeous daily beater.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Congrats 👏

[@alilazzem777]

this guy is amazing to say the least ... very underrated channel in the whole internet wach community

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Man thank you so much!! 🙏

[@druyay69]

My SPB143 was my first serious watch and also a wedding gift from my wife. So not only is it an amazing watch, it's super special to me. A Rolex is and always has been on the list but I think I've ticked the diver box for my collection with the perfect example already. I think an Oyster Perpetual 36 would be my ideal Rolex. Great video!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for the support and that’s a beautiful wedding gift!!

[@finenavaljewelry5798]

SPBs are stunners. I went for the 213 (silver dial) because it is a limited edition but a 143 will be in my collection soon.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Very nice 👏

[@Crimson_626]

First off Miguel...as a Latino myself, thats sooo awesome you are doing these watch reviews. Not many of us Latino's are into high end watches and this videos helps a ton. I am the first latino in my family that is really into watches, so getting advice on what is good from my immediate friends and family members is un likely. I will pull the trigger on that Seiko SPB143...sometime this week, I want to get a great deal on it though!!! What was the name of that Tudor you have??? any videos on that one also?? I Love this Review Miguel!!! very very nice and well thought out!!!! subscribed and looking for more watch reviews. God Bless!!!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

First and foremost thank you 🙏 and yes you should get the SPB143! ❤️

[@kakashi1982]

I have the SPB143 and love it to bits. I do appreciate the Rolex Submariner as a watch of prestige and history, but having seen Grand Seikos and how well made they are, my next grail watch will probably be a Grand Seiko.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Very nice 👏 thank you for watching!

[@canswe123]

I was shopping around for a 16610 sub when they were still 6-7 thousand dollars, but after multiple trips to the AD I ended up getting myself a GS SBGN003 and I could not be happier with it, a catch myself staring at still quite regularly

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

@@canswe123 nice, congrats 👏

[@jimclip2012]

Great video, love my 143! I’ve never been a one-watch guy but now wear the 143 about 90% of the time.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you and the SPB is Amazing!

[@brandond8784]

Last summer I walked into a store with my SPB143 and they had a new preowned 2021 Sub AND a BB58. To me, the Sub was the best looking and best feeling, but it was $13,500. The BB58 was $3,500 and I liked the BB58’s bracelet and bezel better than the Sub. The SPB143 is very good at what it is, but I don’t think it punches above its weight. And while the Sub is better in many ways than the BB58, it’s definitely not $10,000 better. If I have $13,500 to spend on dive watches, I’m taking a SPB143 ($1,100), a BB58 ($3,700) a BB GMT, ($4,100) and a Pelagos ($4,600). But if I can get a Sub at retail, then one watch is all I need, lol

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Amen brother 👏 thank you for watching!

[@AliasEveWatches]

Happy for you to have gotten the submariner out of your system. 😄 The Black Bay 58 and the SPB143 look better anyway! Great video! I hope a lot of people watch this.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for the support Eve. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the sub, but not for the crazy $ they’re asking. Take care my friend 👍🏼

[@BrandonMenancio]

Great video man!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 brother ❤️

[@MirrlyonTime]

I got a double sided screw bracelet sized at my jeweller. Young man who checked me out was wearing a sub like this, I was in awe, it was absolutely beautiful in person. He would not let me handle it :( but what a pleasure just to get that close, congrats on getting your hand on one. That Seiko is gorgeous, and one that I would like to grab up one day as I will never get a subby but wow the subby really is something else. Fantastic video Mig!!!!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for the support and I hope you get a chance thank o handle a sub, it’s a very well made Watch. However as I said in the video, it not worth the hype $! Take care my friend!

[@watchrolling]

There's levels to this game brother and you're reaching higher ones in your videos. Appreciate the honesty and insight in this video. Also, really dig that sweater. You got a link for it? 😂

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you my brother and I bought that sweater years ago at a Marshall’s for $35!

[@watchrolling]

@@SoCalWatchReviews gotta love great deals!

[@martinstephenson4311]

I prefer the Seiko but if it was a no date Sub, I'd go for that. I hate the cyclops and that 143 looks fabulous!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👍🏼 thank you for the support!

[@mc50992]

I love this video so much. It's right on. Your honesty is refreshing. I have subscribed.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 brother!

[@Escapement24]

Great video and really interesting to see a comparison between these two pieces. Not surprised that the Rolex is the better piece but I truly believe in the law of diminishing returns with luxury items like watches. Keep up the good work man 👍🤜🤛

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’m glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the support ❤️ keep up the great work my brother!

[@mcmickey3344]

Great video, thanks for sharing. Also, wearing the SPB 143 is less susceptible to theft these days

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for the support and I agree!

[@AvanticareWellnessCenter]

I totally agree.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@davebudd1429]

Nice job, both iconic watches of course. Love your channel!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you Dave ❤️

[@StandardTime]

Now that's a fantastic comparison! Great video Miguel :)

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 brother ❤️

[@thisispw]

Great review, good observations. The spb143 is a great watch.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 and agree 👍🏼

[@MyAffordableWatchCollection]

Great video Miguel, I agree 100% with your conclusion. The Submariner looks amazing on you btw!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you Aviv ❤️

[@ghost96369]

The best line was: “Is the Seiko better??” “Well, It’s complex!” My thoughts exactly

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for the support!

[@marks7646]

I have a sub and sold it. I’m not wearing it because its too delicate for me to wear. I have the spb297 now and it never left my wrist since I bought it, I got a very accurate piece and it runs +5 sec a day, I love it!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Very nice 👏

[@georgiaguardian4696]

Interesting comparison. Each watch represents the best in their price points.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@gregory7572]

how does the weight of the spb143 compare to the sub? I keep hearing it's 'heavy' on the wrist and some reviewers making it a big deal.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

The SPB wears a little lighter than the Seiko SKX007/009 and pretty similar to the sub. However the SPB feels like a true tool watch compared to the Sub and I absolutely love mine!

[@jamesejudy3]

I totally agree! You're not alone, many people agree with you.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for watching!

[@cuckooforwatches382]

Great comparison vid! The submariner is such an icon but the Seiko is no slouch! 😎

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@peterc3700]

Great video Miguel! Thanks!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏

[@zachg9065]

I have a modded Seiko movement in a submariner case, kind of the best of both worlds.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👍🏼 thank you for watching!

[@TheBarts27]

Great comparison. Thanks. Can you tell me more of the size of each model? It seems in the video that the Rolex is a little bit bigger. Is this true or are they the same (wearing on the wrist)? I have a 8" wrist so the size is important for me.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for the support the Seiko wears a little bigger but pretty much they’re very close. I believe I mentioned the specs of the watches in the video, I don’t remember off the top of my head. Good luck and happy holidays.

[@TheBarts27]

Thanks. U2

[@Seancusmc]

I wanted an omega Seamaster professional Dive watch. I think these are better than Rolex submariners, but less desirable because its not really a status piece. I really love the aesthetics of the sub, but if I bought one, I would worry about wearing it, devaluing it with scratches, it getting stolen, etc. The Omega was still too expensive. I didnt want to spend $5000. I bought a christopher ward C60#tide Chronometer. Amazing watch. Amazing value. Im satisfied with my purchase and I dont pine for a rolex or an omega now. Seems like you did the same with Tudor. I look at my watch and it makes me feel good. I enjoy and am impressed with all the hard work and engineering it took to make that incredible movement and beauty. Cheers

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Congrats CW watches are fantastic 👏 thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@samuellyon3511]

A wonderful Daytona alternative 😍

[@steelsteez6118]

Miguel, I am torn between the bb58 gilt and this spb143. I don't care about the price difference I just want to choose the one that fits and wears the most comfortably (I have a slightly larger than 6.75" wrist but just below 7"). I notice you have a very similar wrist size. In terms of wear, which did you prefer?

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Man this is a hard choice. Honestly the BB58 is going to wear more comfy, but there’s something special about the SPB, I can’t put my finger on it. I’ll say this, if you need a rugged watch go for the SPB as the case doesn’t scratch as easily as the BB58. However if you care about Precision time keeping, better finishing and ultimately (I hate to say this) Invest ability, go for the Tudor. If you have to the opportunity to see both in the metal before pulling the trigger, I highly recommend it. Best of luck and let me know the outcome!

[@steelsteez6118]

@@SoCalWatchReviews awesome, thanks for sharing your experience Miguel! I kinda want more of a rugged travel watch that I won't be afraid to beat up. Think I'm leaning toward the SPB143. Thanks man!

[@WINDINGCROWNS]

Great vid Miguel. Love both watches. I really do! Even though one of them is over priced (premium over retail) and made of that rare metal called "unobtainium" 😂

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

😂 thank you 🙏 my friend!

[@alfredsfunvideos4270]

Great video, I feel the same way in that, yes the Rolex does have a more premium feel, but not to cover the gap in price. I feel that Seikos have definitely gone up in price also but, are still available at discounted prices. Tudor for example also can be found, but at retail. Still great. Just getting burnt out on the Rolex game. Still admire them but just not ready to be part of the bandwagon yet.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’m glad I’m not alone here. Thank you 🙏 for watching and commenting!

[@markedfortime]

I'm holding out for when I can buy Rolex at a discount again. It'll happen...until then, like you, I'm happy with Tudor for the "Rolex experience". Theybare very nearly the same watch! More importantly, I'm happy to pick up many of the non-hyped brands at affordable price points. Omega, Zenith, Panerai..and my latest, Glashutte Original. Many of which, exceed Rolex in specs, quality and finishing.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

💯 thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@jpSD297]

I thought the same thing about the Rolex sub until I pulled the trigger and bought one, now that’s the only watch I wear! Nothing compared to a Submariner.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I bought my 16610 a few months ago and my life and it’s my baby!

[@RossWristWatchLove]

Great Video bro glad to see this Awesome 🔥!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you P ❤️ 🙏

[@garethsigrist8714]

I really enjoyed this video and comparison Miguel. It must have been amazing to get hands on with a Sub and speaking as someone who has (pretty much) come to terms with the fact that I’m unlikely to ever own one myself it’s actually comforting to know that although they are amazing watches, they aren’t necessarily the be all and end all.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for the support and I’m glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏼

[@sharpe340-]

The Seiko would killer if the bracelet tapered to 16mm at the clasp. That’s the only thing I would change about it.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Agree 👍🏼

[@timemeasured9137]

Great content! How do you think the SPB143 compares to the white dial SPB213? Cheers!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 for watching and I’ve had the opportunity to handle the SPB213 and it’s awesome! However the whore dial does make the watch look a little bigger on the wrist. Take care my friend!

[@MrFredrictai]

@@SoCalWatchReviews Yeah, whore dial is definitely not for me, LOL. I think I still prefer the more subtle grey dial, it looks more timeless somehow and goes well with my dressing style...

[@timemeasured9137]

@@MrFredrictai You know I was thinking of trading my 143 for the the white 213, but after thinking about some more, I agree with you. The grey dial is more timeless and versatile. I think I will be keeping my 143! Thanks. cheers.

[@timemeasured9137]

@@SoCalWatchReviews Thanks for your opinion. I was asking bc I had the opportunity to do a straight trade, but after further thought....the grey dial 143 is arguably the best looking and versatile model of the bunch. Keep up the great content!!!

[@MrFredrictai]

@@timemeasured9137 I almost got rid of my 143 for a 149 which is a limited edition greyish-blue dial with a gold second hand but after some thought, I decided to keep my 143 for the same reasons...

[@martinharrison4245]

Great review , but have you considered the sla043 from seiko ? The quality of these sla models are comparable to the rolex in terms of build quality. At half the price of the rolex , these are beautifully made.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you and of course I have, but it’s out of my price range. The SPB143 for me is what I could comfortably afford when I bought it and it’s been an amazing watch. Thank you 🙏 for watching.

[@martinharrison4245]

@@SoCalWatchReviews I got lucky with mine at just over half retail price used. So I paid basically double the price of a spb 143 model. And it's worth it too. Is it worth 4x the price, well that's a tough call. The more you go into the higher bracket though, the harder it is to see the value for money. I've got a spb051 which was the first 62mas reimagining, and it's still a great watch. It was the first seiko really that had the higher price point that we are used to now. But it was a step up in quality from the normal seiko divers. You will get one one day , if you love the 62mas design enough. Good luck

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

@@martinharrison4245 man you are very fortunate 👏

[@resjon7981]

The SPB143 is very aesthetically pleasing but I sold mine due to the terrible movement.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

What was wrong with the movement? Did it stop working?

[@resjon7981]

@@SoCalWatchReviews It was losing 35 seconds per day and I owned 2 as had the SPB147 as well and yes the problem was apparent on the SPB147 as well. My Longines Hydroconquest, Steinhart Ocean One and My Tudor BB58 are all within COSC so my thinking was why can't my SPB143 be even close to COSC and the answer is the movement is sub par. On looks alone the SPB143 beats them all bar the BB58 but even that is a close call visually. Losing 35 second a day may not be a problem if one changes their watch daily but I tend to wear my watches for weeks on end before I swap out so I noticed the terrible time keeping more.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

@@resjon7981 Got it, thank you for sharing.

[@albertoalvarez1924]

Hola desde España Enhorabuena por tus revisiones. Se nota q tienes sangre española en tus venas…😉 Tengo el spb143 con el brazalete jubilee de Strapcode, pruébalo a ver que te parece. Es un reloj que finalmente tiene unas proporciones áureas en seiko, además de una presencia premium. Por cierto, no sabía que tenías reviews en español. Un abrazo fuerte

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Querido Alberto muchísimas gracias por el apoyo ❤️ y si en efecto tengo sangre Española. A ver si me animo a comprarme el Strapcode, he oído muchas cosas buenas de esa compañía. Cuídate hermano ❤️

[@superdad4324]

The subby is manufactured to perfection, however to me it lost its tool watch appeal. Too big and too blingy for me. It became more of a flashy status symbol compared to it’s predecessor.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Agree, that’s why I just picked a pre-ceramic version!

[@johncoyle8191]

Like yourself the sub was my grail . I was lucky enough to get the 126610ln at retail. I own tudor and love them , but for me it's the sub a day long

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Man congrats 👏 and thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@bayarearacing408]

U cant compare a Rolex to a Seiko, BUT when theres $15k+ difference in price involved then You can make an argument that the Rolex does not define the additional $15k+! Rolex is a jewelry hardly worn. while Seiko is a Great daily watch with a realistic price tag!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👍🏼 thank you for watching!

[@vicg5323]

True that. I can buy ten submariners in one shot and think nothing of it but the AD games, Rolex artificial shortages have pissed me off. If the shortages were real they would have the same issues with Tudor. But in fact too many Tudors are made and are selling at deep discounts. Does not make sense? Buy the way my first Rolex was not as good as your Seiko and it cost me 800 dollars in 1987.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

💯 facts and man $800 for a sub 😯

[@ChefPelle]

The Seiko - while being a very nice watch at a reasonable price point - is lightyears away from a Rolex Sub when it comes to fit, finish and movement. It's not even in the same ballpark. Not the same continent.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Agree, but it’s beautiful ❤️

[@NJPS2023]

Nice video, but this is the typical argument given by those who can't afford a Rolex. Most people who have the funds to buy a Rolex do so and are very happy and satisfied with their acquisition. I'm pretty sure those who share your sentiment would buy their Rolex watches if they had the extra discretionary income and money was not an issue. They are excellent time pieces and are worth every penny the market price commands, whether it be low or high. There's a reason they hold their value and are highly sought after and it's not majority hype.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you for watching and your comment.

[@stephenpatton8690]

The 143 is terribly inaccurate. I owned two of them; the second one was even professionally serviced to no avail. The 143 is the best looking pos that I have ever seen:)

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’ve heard they don’t keep great time. Since I rotate my watches so often I always have to set them so I’ve never noticed. Thank you for watching!

[@stephenpatton8690]

If they used a better movement in this watch, it would be best of all time. I really tried to love it:(

[@ryanrabe7184]

I can afford to buy a rolex submariner but i cant afford to dive it under salty water!!! But this seiko spb143 a can afford both!!!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

💯

[@DavidSchwartzjr]

First!!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 ❤️

[@watch_tologe9341]

Algo push✌️

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

😊 ❤️

[@HankOrionYT]

Seiko all the way. Rolex ruining their own brand by literally not allowing people to buy their watches. I go with a seiko and grand seiko.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏼

[@bigben8210]

Love submariner but the Seiko is most beautiful.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

😊 thank you 🙏 for the support!

[@DM-ci2nn]

If I were a billionaire, I'd still only wear Seiko.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👏 thank you for watching!

[@tsma24]

this watch can destroy subs / hold its current trading value, embarassing. but Daytona & Gmt still strong

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👍🏼 thank you 🙏 for watching!

[@Boblw56]

The Rolex is a piece of jewelry. Don’t confuse it with a watch.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

💯

[@xstensl8823]

Seiko is to damm big

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

40mm is big?

[@jimclip2012]

With a wrist just under 7.5”, I’m good with the diameter and LTL, but wish it wasn’t almost 14mm thick. It’s really my only complaint, outside of the mediocre timekeeping.

[@glennmorrison9409]

PROSPEX vs submariner

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Great title!

[@dcamnc1]

Subs bore me, and they are robbery magnets. Seiko for me.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

👍🏼

[@AdiFerG7H]

Spb ... poor accuracy

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’ve heard a lot of different opinions from a lot of different people. I really wish Seiko would have more consistent QC.

[@dooo0000]

Both overpriced. The logo is worth 90% of the tag 😁

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

😂

[@jeid3822]

Seiko is just more beautiful 😊❤

[@bumblebaetuna2801]

Love this comparison and honestly I think it’s the first one I’ve seen! I own the spb143 and your review is one of the main reasons I got one - soo happy with it so thank you 🙏- I love the sub too but not the crazy “dance” involved to get one at retail! One day maybe but in the meantime the spb is going nowhere!!👍

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Thank you 🙏 so much for the support and congrats on owning the SPB, it’s an incredible piece!