Sounds of Silence Roll4It #03 - ANARCHS - Vampire the Masquerade 5th Edition

[@drews13]

This episode was hilarious! Siblings: we may have to use them, so let's find out where they are weak Dakota/Butcher: let's form a pact in case the other two turn on us Siblings: they were gone for a while, they are probably plotting against us. :D

[@lordinquisitor6233]

Butcher is such a sweet kind hearted bloodsucking undead abomination, him and zach are probably my favorite characters

[@rossnorris2351]

Eh Butcher and Ava. But then again Clan Toreador is like my second favorite clan just barely below Clan Brujah.

[@dashua1]

Dakota Because it's always Gangrel! Or Brujah.... My bad I messed up when I said Brujah. I meant Ravnos. It's always Gangrel or Ravnos! I like the Animals and the Clowns. I specifically love their Curse. To me they're the funniest to play with. After them comes Brujah followed by the Giovanni. Those are my favorite Clans in order. It's Gangrel, Ravnos, and then a toss up between Giovanni & Brujah.

[@oneonly2762]

>masked Nos >tall >high brawl >high strenght >muscles people >even Dakota references him as big >was molded by darkness So...Bane moment when?

[@michaelb2106]

>masked >high brawl >high strength >muscles people Nah, he's a luchador

[@manticore6963]

Michael Benton To be fair, so is Bane in the Comics.

[@oneonly2762]

>he's a luchador So...he's Bane.

[@rossnorris2351]

Hehehe

[@ghirahimlefabuleux8984]

He's a big guy...for you.

[@adamdavenport8009]

Playing catch-up, but so far Ollie's my fav. He's such a complex paradox. Big brute, but silent as the grave with a big heart, even if he doesn't want anyone to see it. It's also interesting to see the coterie politics and how Kindred society politics plays on and influences what could either become a big schism in the group or serve to bring them together.

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Exactly what I've been very interested to see myself.

[@alchemicpink2392]

I'm having flashbacks to my sharktoothed Nossie who once brought the entire rest of the coterie back to "life" by wringing cats like towels over their open maws.

[@TabularConferta]

Kudos to the ST for deciding when to just let RP narrate events over dice. Another great session.

[@ChilluminatiPod]

There's nothing worse than roleplaying your ass off, making smart decisions and playing well only to have the dice tell you you failed anyway. Don't get me wrong, love having rules and mechanics to dictate how scenarios go, but sometimes you just let the players play, and reward them for doing it well.

[@irontemplar6222]

With V5 you almost have to. Because frankly... V5s rules arent that great in my opinion.

[@TauShasla]

Begin roughly 5:10 Break ends at 2:00:48

[@caad5258]

Many thanks, Shasla!

[@TabularConferta]

Hero.

[@lanyerd1]

The image of Dakota and Ollie walking arm in arm is the best since hes so tall and big and she is so small

[@TabularConferta]

I must say the sound track really adds to the theme. Messy Success only takes place on a critical. You need to roll a 10 on hunger AND another 10 (on either die).

[@Timlagor]

I really hate having that music. I can always play my own music but I can't remove this (or even turn it down compared to the voices)

[@robertgronewold3326]

Oh god. Zach is a Malkavian. Suddenly it all makes sense.

[@genericyt3758]

Honestly I thought he was a Ventrue at first but then Malkavian made sense because of Obfuscate and Dominate disciplines. I can't peg his flaw or mental condition

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@genericyt3758 paranoia

[@profmembrane8501]

Ava: Zach, where did you get a fridge? Zach: found it...

[@MrAxeswinger]

Anybody caught that VTM:bloodlines reference? when he mentioned the club owner being a Malkavian?

[@redrikari]

Therese and Jeanette

[@JonathanKelley1979]

Asylum and the Voreman twins are a loresheet in the back of the V5 book.

[@redrikari]

@@JonathanKelley1979 Oooh nice. I can't wait to get the book.

[@MrAxeswinger]

Jonathan Kelley recently added or they were always there? Sorry but I’m kinda new to the lore and I’m currently playing bloodlines

[@imajica1863]

@@MrAxeswinger A lot of the plot of Bloodlines was brought in to canon with Beckett's Jyhad Diary. The Voerman sisters don't get a direct appearance in the book, but the Malkavian Jacob mentions one of his childer is the Baron of Santa Monica.

[@FinchOnionDip]

I’m new to roll4it so I don’t know the group dynamic beyond the start of this series, but it feels like there are bits of meta gaming going on. Idk if they have a greater importance on overall story and sort of overlook these things, or if there are messages between characters and gm approving this. An example or two: 3 hours, 41 minutes ish Zach has a phone recording all the info of the bar, without mentioning beforehand that he’d set the phone up to do that. And that happened again when they had the phone deposited with the ghoul and he didn’t mention or make rolls to subtly set a phone up to be silent and dialed into his phone and all of that. It seems like the way it was done there wasn’t a chance for the NPCs to catch that he’d prepped the phone in full view of everyone, just the ghoul was able to find it later or catch it being planted on him. Also, the twins versus homeless duo pact making: twins talking was fine, Bub realizing they could’ve talked about the twins and asking for a scene doing that was a streeeetch a little since it was only prompted by the twins’ scene and butcher wasn’t gonna originally bring it up? And then another twins scene where Zach adds more talking about the duo, seemingly in ooc response to butcher and Dakota’s conversation, when the twins had already finished their plotting scene and it seemed like purely an ooc add on. If it’s all for the story and that’s the point, then it doesn’t matter cause the pcs are collaborating with the storyteller to weave a narrative. But if they’re trying to play strictly in character it seems doctored from the in game knowledge and intentions? Idk, it’s not a big deal in the scope of things, but I’d be curious to know what the group dynamic is like and whether this is just their play style or an accidental slip.

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Tons of secret chats and messages happening during the game over on Discord. Wouldn't be a VtM game without hidden messages and plotting >:D

[@FinchOnionDip]

Cool, cool! I appreciate the response; I like the idea of keeping cards close to hand, and sometimes that doesn’t always come across clearly when there’s an audience point of view. But knowing that makes a lot of sense!

[@N20Joe]

I like how well Mathas does at moderating his voice and manner when he speaks as certain people like Rudy etc.

[@ThePaelan]

Somewhat late to the party here, but I was amused by Ava being all excited by a makeover pre-break, then suddenly having changed hair colour after it. Some interesting dynamics between the group going on as well, and really impressed with Mathas as Storyteller. Looking forward to catching up with all the other episodes.

[@theinquisition7]

I really want the final evolution of Zachary Heloise to be a masterclass Machiavelian man of intrigue...Like Tywin Lannister, with a mix of the spider.

[@EnterElysium]

>:D

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

@@EnterElysium Hey EE, was the Bloodlines reference your Idea at character creation?

[@Methren1]

The club and the... well "Sisters" is canon in 5th edition

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

@@Methren1 Oh, okay. Good thing I didn't kill one of them back then, then. Thanks for the info!

[@shadecaster615]

I'm a simple man, I see Zach, I like

[@EnterElysium]

>:3

[@panteralaranja]

To mend Aggravated Damage, a vampire must wait until the next nightfall and make three Rouse Checks, in addition to the regular Rouse Check made when rising.

[@JuliusCorvinus]

some hints regarding the V5 rules for fututre play: 1) there is no such things as a _messy_ success, there is only a _messy_ critical which still requires at least two 10s, because it is a critical (at least two 10s rolled) with at least one 10 on a hunger die. 2) to heal aggravated damage you have to roll three rouse checks in addition to the one rouse check to rise that night. So to heal 4 aggravated damage they have to heal 4 nights with 4 rouse checks every night. 3) you do not go into torper at hunger 5, you go into torpor if you have hunger 5 and fail your rouse check attempting to rise for that night. 4) when a vampire goes into torpor they stay in torpor based on their humanity. With Humanity 7 = 2 weeks. With humanity 6 = 1 month.

[@Zerakis]

With the way Roll4It does time skips, Zach would have been in torpor for the rest of the series.

[@dionysianhoney99]

So torpor is an additional 2 weeks for each minus of Humanity?

[@JuliusCorvinus]

No, with Humanity 5 it is already 1 year and after that it gets even worse. You can read it on page 241 of V5.

[@Hauwke764]

@@dionysianhoney99 Not quite, its worse than that, it goes from weeks, to months, to years etc until you hit being stuck in torpor for millenia at a time.

[@imajica1863]

Another rules clarification, when rolling Willpower, it's the current number of available points, not the Composure plus Resolve ratings. So if they've been marking off WP boxes to reroll, they roll fewer dice.

[@lordinquisitor6233]

24:34 Zack your a malkavian, your never thinking straight!!!!!!!

[@DarkAvatar1313]

Or conversely, The Malkavians are the only ones thinking straight.

[@Kizzy-qb9si]

For a malk, he’s fairly sane or tame

[@ruick78]

@@Kizzy-qb9si would explain his stutter attempting not blurt out the malkavian talk

[@evanremillard5640]

Love Oliver, Dakota and Zach and Ava.....I love them all. Great job.

[@bahoogasfaga]

Just because Dakota seems like a sabat infiltrator on a path outside of humanity does not mean she's not awesome. but no realy what is her humanity she plays it so low.

[@evanremillard5640]

@@bahoogasfaga wow fuck up on my part. I thought I put Dakota. Shit my bad.

[@LittleRedDot]

It's actually pretty low. At least the lowest in our group. But I'm choosing to also show the fact that she didn't have much humanity left as a human... much less a Kindred.

[@evanremillard5640]

@@LittleRedDot She is a Gangrel, it makes total sense.

[@higginsjedi85]

Little red dot is so fucking good at her RP. It's.... Amazing.

[@chrisbacon8311]

Bubbernaut, awesome rp dude, got a tear in my eye.

[@lyredragon]

hunger frenzy is at 5 they are not supposed to torpor at 5. 4 is when certain effects show up. frenzy resullts at hunger 5 from a failed rouse check. in frenzy they will go after anyone, even other kindred and ends when they get to hunger 1(pg 220)

[@Ghostneedle1]

Oliver went to speak to 'Roody', (his 'maula'?, 'maoua'?) around 1:00:00 what is that? They almost act as though they're his sire if they cared about him rather than treating him like a plaything to be antagonized.

[@JuliusCorvinus]

Rudy? Rudi? His Mawla - his Mentor.

[@Ghostneedle1]

Ah okay. Do all kindred get a mentor? I don't think so?

[@JuliusCorvinus]

No, and you can find it in the book under Advantages -> Backgrounds

[@lyredragon]

mawla. this is a mentor. in a perfect vampire world a person's sire is also a mawla to its childe but you know, one point toward blood bond aside, it's just not always possible to love the monster that killed you.. the name of his mawla confused me too, but because it sounds like the name of a gangrel canon character

[@Ghostneedle1]

thanks

[@a3van609]

2:48:56 Oliver: I'll sharp whistle. Me: You don't HAVE lips, you scarpole brood. You DON'T whistle. NEITHER do you makeout, just like your sire. But I like you anyways

[@moehsenpai8855]

Just like every game of vampire. Conspiring against each other

[@aciesactual4066]

At 3.49 you missed a chance for the Spike quote, 'If every vampire who claimed to have witnessed the Crucifixion really showed up the place would have been packed like Burning Man."

[@TroySeward]

Another great episode, love this series.

[@TheKrazy1990]

Lovin Oliver btw even though i am a sucker for malks.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

Yeah, for sure. The reason I picked this game to watch instead of any other is because there's a malk, but he is the best so far. Dakota as well works wonders for the story, even if I don't exactly like her disposition entirely.

[@xenocore01]

03:08:44 - When the Music player adds extra drama/levity to a scene...

[@nurigunes6065]

I know this is late as hell but I seem to be late to the whole Vampire the Masquerade streaming phenomenon. I heard about you guys on a comment post on LA by Night by WoD and decided to check you guys out after I finished their campaign. Gotta say I think this is a far superior show so far... you explain the mechanics, have more like able characters, less plot armor, and show the rolls. Just wanted to show the love to you guys and say I can’t wait to see how this ends up and view some of your other campaigns!

[@Korovjov101]

OMG, is the Asylum and the Voerman sisters actually a canon thing in this edition?

[@KonradCurves]

Its referenced in the book it seems

[@Piemasterjelly]

There are Loresheet backgrounds which you can spend points in The Voerman sisters are one of them

[@user-xb8ts3rc9g]

@@Piemasterjelly Are they even in L.A, I could've sworn this was set in Chicago, if not, is L.A not an Anarch free-state at the moment??

[@Piemasterjelly]

This one is set in Chicago I think the loresheet explains that the Asylum is now a franchise much like the Succubus club

[@mikbdee2186]

Yeah. You can spend XP on the loresheet and get all sorts of benefits from different Canon characters. The sisters being one of them.

[@Telleryn]

"he's like the Steve Irwin of vampires" made me laugh :D

[@soilworker0226]

What is the concern with Oliver's 'doomsday clock'-esque frenzy? Ava's frenzy was pretty tame compared to what they refer to as Oliver's would be. This series has been my first foray into Vtm and VWoD.

[@thedapperlad7148]

Because Ava at best could kill a human or 5, Oliver could start throwing flatbeds at police stations

[@daemonlordmagnusthered6213]

While Ava is superhuman being a vampire, she’s still a small petite person who’s skill lies in manipulation. 1v1 with a human she’d win. 1v5 she would still win. Oliver is a 7 foot tall built like a concrete bunker killing machine when hungry. While Ava may depopulate a house, Oliver would depopulate neighbourhoods. He has insane strength by a vampires standard.

[@thedapperlad7148]

He can also be completely quiet and eventually will be able to be invisible, happy nightmares

[@soilworker0226]

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh damn. Okay. I guess that makes sense. What would stop him once he starts?

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

@@soilworker0226 Depends on the reason for the frenzy. If it is fear frenzy, escape (or destruction of the threat if cornered). If it is because of hunger, slaking it. (Can you slake hunger or just thirst?) If it is because of anger, destroying the object of it. Also keeping him down until he had time to cool off (in game terms roll successfully) would be an option, if you had someone strong enough to do it (some older vampire with enough potence for example). Is it still possible to temporarily raise your physical attributes by 'spending' blood? If you had someone with a higher attribute limit (because in a frenzy Olli would probably boost himself to the max), he could just overpower him that way. I'm mot entirely sure how that works in V5, though.

[@rossnorris2351]

Zach's coat of holding.

[@aciesactual4066]

I like the big-brain play idea of putting the twins into such a state to force the others to take care of them. This way they bond, and grow closer as a group.

[@Smokeymoss]

TIME TO STAY UP TILL 4 AM! You already know how dam excited I am! God that cliffhanger last week shook me up! I really need to get that fan art out XD my procrastination has been killing me. Freaking can't wait to finish this episode though. I've been loving this series so far and Mathas as always is an absolutely amazing GM. I'm trying to be the same - I shall learn! By....the way. Dakota x Ollie = Daollie

[@lordinquisitor6233]

2:12:12 is turning into Christ a malkvaian thing or something?

[@lyredragon]

mythic flaw. anyone can take it

[@therealcdogs]

He is the messiah

[@Crushanator1]

In the lore, there's some Malkavian Elders who believe Malkav WAS Christ and allowed himself to be crucified as an act of penance to ask God to forgive Caine, and therefore all vampires, by removing the curse and making them mortals again There's also Malkavian Elders who say he was just a guy, but they did move the stone and steal his corpse as a prank that got very out of hand And then there's also also Malkavian Elders who say neither of those things happened and making them up was also just a prank that got out of hand. Malkavians canonically love pranks

[@nicolasseguro7392]

loving this series, greatings from Argentina

[@mikejv1019]

A very fun, interesting session, good story stuff and great character stuff.

[@Fransd1982]

My god the meta gaming is strong. They use information they don't know to make decisions and moves on each other.

[@Ristro44]

An interesting thing Oliver said last session was that he was turned because his sire said he was lonely...is that maybe is flows both ways.

[@KuLaydMahn]

Fighting Caine? I'd think of it something like a hyper-OP mage unaffected by Paradox with all the physical advantages of being a vampire and then some. Imagine that, and then take into account that that's still an understatement. If the Book of Nod is anything to go by, Caine is literally unspeakably, unfathomably powerful. If Caine goes on a rampage, it would likely take the Second Coming to stop him.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

I don't think any single mage would be enough to even give a fight to Caine. I think Ravanna (antediluvian) alone took major resources from the whole technocracy, a pack of garou and the 3 strongest Kuei-Jin, with days of fighting, and she wasn't one of the strongest from the third generation... Caine is basically a game over in the WoD.

[@bartudundar3193]

@@HenriqueErzinger An Archmage unaffected by a paradox is also pretty much a god though. The only thing holding them back is well, lore honestly. Comparing the entirety of Technocracy to an actual Archmage is kind of ridiculous given what 10 dots in any sphere can do (altering the entirety of fate itself, total creation, creating completely alternative timelines). There a lot of things that a super level Archmage can do but Caine can't. In WoD the individual being stronger than the collective is not at all impossible. But you aren't wrong that Caine is practically Game Over in the WoD as the pandemonium he unleashed would have reshaped the world in its entirety.

[@bamboy1154]

Good stuff as always, guys!

[@TheGuanac]

OMG ! I realise something about gehenna and the new Caine that never hint my brain before (never played fifth edition btw) : in VDA, you can create a lineage if you contemplate third generation blood, create a clan if you drink it, which is less likely, but not impossible, kinda renewal of the blood.

[@nonchip]

do i have to get oli? "i'm lying to you because i don't like getting played"

[@caad5258]

Why are they still talking to mark after they killed his ghoul? He probably still holds are grudge!

[@manticore6963]

Holding a Grudge? Over a Ghoul? Are you mad at People if they broke your Hammer even if they're willing and able to buy you a new one?

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@manticore6963 Well if you're a Caitiff/Thinblood who broke his hammer then there might be a mighty grudge.

[@oneonly2762]

If vampires held onto those types of grudges, thinbloods would kill each other at an unsustainable level. Not to mention, vamps are more removed from humanity, so youd think they'd take things less personally.

[@nyxqueen5417]

Odd Apprentice i think the characters r 13th generation. Close to thinblood but not quite there

[@mtracehenry]

Love the series so far!

[@ryan1000011]

music on this ep was on POINT

[@andysmith1313]

Hungry Waffle I want to know the soundtrack. I’m thinking it’s from vampyr game

[@harvestblades]

Watching this (as much fun as it is) reminds me why traditionally sire would blood bond childer & not release them as neonates sometimes for a century.

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

Just as a bit of feedback: The whole bit about Ava and Zach healing and feeding could have been shortened to a few sentences as they weren't in a hurry or doing something with effects on the later game. One could just havedecided to lay low and that they would spend the time healing, drinking and getting new blood bags, Olli and Dakota repeating the feeding that mother-bird Olli had done and getting them a hobo or two... They have all the time they need and several tactics at their disposure. Why play it out and roll so many dice? Maybe it's just me, but that kind of took the tension out of the whole thing for a bit. Nonetheless still loving this!

[@tzimiscelord8483]

In vampire the Masquerade you are your own enemy, the Beast Within you, the hunger, healing and trying not to die, that's the game, everything else is just to excite the Beast in one way or another

[@HenriqueErzinger]

Yeah, that stuff is important in Vampire. It's not the time, it all has huge risks throughout, so it has to be played. Also, the rules they went with were A LOT more lenient than the actual ones in the book, I believe.

[@rossnorris2351]

Could this be a rift forming in our happy little family? Yes, of course it is, it's Vampire.

[@lordunderstatement3645]

Love it. It's the World of Darkness, not the World of Sunshine and Rainbows. Most WoD games I've played in have been in the World of Insufficient Reading Light.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Hey, eyestrain is genuinely scary, though...

[@jamesharoldsen1907]

beautifully done as always

[@JonarRoman]

Never played this system before. Not sure I'd enjoy it to be honest...but it makes for some great viewing. Great jot Roll4It cast o7

[@harvestblades]

Love watching fledglings try to survive & the simple mistakes & oversights they make. Dropping a drained drug dealer with no visible wounds on a street corner is a serious breach especially in 5th ed with SI, and let's not forget that for being broke he missed a easy payday by not taking the cash, drugs & probably a gun from him.

[@rossnorris2351]

1:18:23 random Miss_Magitek cat.

[@Bob-jm8kl]

"What do you fancy?" I'm in the mood for Italian tonight.

[@torchit2302]

I'm rewatching this entire season and I noticed that when Ava and Zach were healing the aggravated damage they rolled 1 rouse check per point of aggravated damage while the manual states that 3 rouse checks are needed to heal one point, one per night...

[@rossnorris2351]

I think Dakota will be going to war soon. They screwed up torturing Ava....

[@Hauwke764]

We need a Bentham Vampire. Given his skill at being a backstabbing/plotting bastard it would suit him well.

[@JD-wv4mr]

When did Bentham backstab? If you're talking Layla season 2, he was possessed by wrath and did not willingly betray.

[@msclrhd]

I think they are referrring specifically to Avalon High School ep 2 "Et tu, Arty?".

[@Hauwke764]

Im not specifically mean any specific episode or show, just that Bentham has matured into a sneaky little bugger, able to keep secrets and manipulate people a little better than the surface shows.

[@thesarcasticmagician9092]

Bentham best plotting was that damn flintlock and epic build up to shooting an effing daemonhost in dark heresy. Bentham is delightful

[@tmirred1945]

Vampire: the Makeover

[@nightsyko]

1:21:30 can i have more context on that? in what book is that story about?

[@KonradCurves]

time stamp for when Jeanette Voermon is mentioned?

[@blueyoshi5377]

Looks like we're about to take a real hard nosedive pretty soon :P

[@andysmith1313]

What music is playing for the first 20mins or even throughout?

[@alexanderdewitt1989]

Wonderful Storytelling

[@julianleverton7045]

What age level is the group, fledgling or neonate?

[@Ryoga100]

Question about the clan banes. While yes the caitiff have none of the clan banes couldn't the same TECHNICALLY be true of the tremere as well? Since their clan weakness was more of a self imposed one that they themselves started and anyone of them could theoretically not go through? Because a sire of a young tremere could theoretically just say nah...I'm not going to let this childe be known and just kind of hide them away?

[@thedapperlad7148]

The Tremere were not originally vampires, thats why they don't have one, they made themselves the best vampires they could be

[@Faeret2]

Well, the Tremere aren't one of the original clans that descended from Cain, so maybe they dodged that part of the Curse. Still, it would be extremely hard for a Tremere sire to keep a childe secret from the rest of the clan. After all, they are still partly blood bound to their sire and keeping secrets gets hard. But I suppose it might be possible in rare circumstances. There are always exceptions after all.

[@thedapperlad7148]

That is true, The Pyramid does not allow Tremere Antitribu, they enforce this rule with Blood Magic

[@Faeret2]

Yes, but to be Antitribu you have to do the whole Sabbat thing (right? it's been a while since I read the clanbook or played a Tremere). Still, if the clan were to find too many 'unregistered' childer, they'd probably make some sort of ritual for detecting those. And for the Tremere too many would probably not be that many since they like to control things like that.

[@thedapperlad7148]

Nah, Antitribu is basically any vampire that is away from the main body of the clan, an Anarch Tzimice, Camarilla Lasombra etc

[@purebloodedgriffin]

Zach and Dakota getting a bite to eat together and taking some clothes off

[@dormarch186]

I’m not sure if the parts where Zach is out and out wrong are in or out of character (3rd gen making the Camarilla. Arguably Tremere did but he wasn’t a true antediluvian)

[@whitneymohrhauser8753]

The Giovanni also in the same boat. Tremere are worst position than the Giovanni or the Hecate. Have my theory what is going happen to the Tremere mostly Saulot is going take over.

[@giboron]

likening this

[@ILP2016]

How do I find the discord server for the little red dot

[@coltonbunja]

Oli has a whole lotta self control. I'd have lost my shit on Dakota a long while ago.

[@CaptainLekirk]

I get the drunk dude wasnt a nice person, but torture is torture.

[@Ghostneedle1]

They're just trying to feel slightly better about it

[@tio4861]

Well they did imply that he was going to rape an underage girl... so their probably justifying it that way.

[@Xjr555kid]

It's a game about monsters.

[@palaupale7782]

@@tio4861 but didn’t she say Dakota was 19

[@Neverwinter27]

Still waiting for Bloodlines music Mathas

[@Ghostneedle1]

How long should we expect the series to go on for? Will we see advanced powers?

[@bahoogasfaga]

If they are doing experience by the book we are not seeing level 5 for some time. but I'm confident the wait will be worth it.

[@Ghostneedle1]

Well looking at the playlists of their other series, they don't tend to go on for 'some time'.

[@LittleRedDot]

Currently, we are schedule through the new year. So expect quiet a bit of content.

[@Ghostneedle1]

good to know :)

[@fredfranca5026]

hahaha these vampires are looking more fragile than humans! I'm loving it.

[@Dianbler]

Damn EE, i love when you GM, but your characters are always fuking great. I love zach, a malkavian and a sly bastard. I'm just starting this, but i hope you make it to prince.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

The only thing is that I personally find It lacking for a Malkavian to not have any Auspex.

[@geridionarus]

best way to watch is With VTM Bloodlines OST album in the background in my opinion

[@ExodusAlphaXX]

Dakoliver? Is that the ship name?

[@soilworker0226]

Olikota? Kotaver? I'd ship it

[@garrettpettig5444]

Oakota

[@harvestblades]

@1:45:00 when they are talking about clubbing and AVvs being pretty have we forgotten that they look like hot dogs that got burnt on the grill?

[@rossnorris2351]

I posted the link to your first show in my V:TM Facebook group.

[@ilsearwert]

ava: *enters hunger frenzy, rips apart an unconscious dude's neck* dakota, clapping and laughing: thats hot

[@Zer0SumGame]

I said it during the stream, but I get *really* fucking nervous every time Mathas describes Rowan's mood with one of the Four Humours. Everyone who read V5 core should know why.

[@ChilluminatiPod]

>>

[@00ooshegothicc10]

How do I join a game like this?

[@IVscythia]

"world of darkness"- still a lot brighter than dark heresy and 40k..... Jokes through statements of fact aside though, I love this campaign and I would also love to see this particular cast in a dark heresy campaign

[@JJack360]

Is this on a podcast?

[@saulmighty]

Could you check the mic levels before the show? The butcher is a lot louder than the others

[@Viccerz]

Came for super evil vampire game, got Butcher's feels central. So much better.

[@soldier4242]

That brand on Ava wouldn't be permanent. It would heal just the same as all the other scars all over her.

[@WolfOfLegend]

Why do I feel like I'm the only one who would try to stay in the Camarilla. So many players lean heavily into Anarchs but I'm personally more of a "Structure is needed" kind of person

[@lyredragon]

but could you? they kicked out everyone from 13th generation and higher and everyone 10th generation and lower is feeling the beckoning. and they kickked out catiffs of any generation. then gangrel left, brujah left, anarchs left, and then the second inquision killed thousands already. so. . .what's left is a bunch of really bitter ancillae and a few elders who were once under the heel of their more powerful clanmates trying to grasp what is left of their once powerful empire in the vaccuum left behind when the powerful went to fight elsewhere. It literally is the fall of rome all over again. and. . .well the ventrue and toreador are at the top and responsible yet again anarchs are not structureless. They're ostensibly democratic or at worst socialist. think of cams as like feudal or italian fascism. you can stay in the camarilla, but it's not the open society it used to be.

[@WolfOfLegend]

Stephanie Pyke . Preface: I am personally more familiar with V20 than V5 because I don't have the book yet, so I get that the Camarilla is breaking in V5, it hasn't fully hit me yet. But all the same, maybe its because I'm not exactly socialist, maybe its because imo it fits more with feudalism than fascism specifically in games I'd played, or maybe its because I'm just a ventrue (or at best tremere) at heart. But yes, I could. In lore the Camarilla were formed because of the recklessness of the Anarchs causing the first Inquisition. Granted the Anarchs at the time included the Sabbat, but rebellious anger can go a long way. That's why the Brujah are so strong. That, and maybe its because one of the games I was in was in an Anarch only city in a previous game with my group as the only Cammy sympathizers in the city because Mark's idea was echoed. Cammies are capture on sight to be tortured and killed by what essentially turned into a Stalinist government.

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@WolfOfLegend You should reconnect with your touchstone. It might benefit your cause. Your Camarilla elitism has proven not to be fail safe.

[@lyredragon]

this comment is errata'ed as of september 2018. camarilla did not kick out 13gen after all. it's only 14th gen and up now. this was an official change to the book text.

[@nyxqueen5417]

WolfOfLegend I get what ur saying. But as someone who hasn’t played yet and who is most interested in gangrel and bruja clans it makes sense of what the anarchs r doin. I wouldn’t wanna be pushed around like that. Ava had the littlest back talk and because of how uptight the Camarilla is they burned Ava and put Zach in an acid lye bath. I mean I get why Zach was punished but Ava’s was for being shocked that her brother was gonna be punished and I’m pretty sure she didn’t know about the spray painting incident

[@vaderciya]

How long is it between episodes? I've watched all 3 in a row and i need more!

[@lancedaray3618]

This is why you don't time skip in world of darkness. Letting her know the one thing that will get you to do exactly what she always talks about probably isnt a good idea...

[@rossnorris2351]

Hell I'm ready to go to war for them torturing Ava.........at least they didn't take Ollie. It would be over already.

[@AutobotChick25]

Does Oliver not know any other nosferatu besides his sire and mawla? Wouldn’t contacting clan members be better? They have shrecknet and leads on all the juicey kindred gossip.

[@lyredragon]

schreknet was disabled in the great wipe after the second inquisition found it. nossies are scrubbing the net and camarilla caught with cell phpnes and spcial media are kicked out

[@BubTalks]

He is probably aware that they exist but he isn't exactly in cahoots with anyone. Sure it would be useful to him and the others if he fell into line and just did what other Nosferatu did, but thats just not Ollie.

[@irontemplar6222]

In V5 skretnet got found and had to be scrubbed

[@9391862]

I understand it is a role play, but I don't think one party should hear what the second party are speaking, most of the time, they are unintentionally influenced by hearing other party plans and act accordingly, when in reality if they would not hear that they would act differently.

[@UCFElCarnicero]

I so wanna play with you or in some campaign like this. Anyone?

[@matthewstorm4135]

In another edition, Dakota would almost be prime Sabbat material.