Sounds of Silence Roll4It #04 - MALKAVIAN - Vampire the Masquerade 5th Edition

[@MargaretKrohnPlays]

Gosh, I was so nervous to play this character. I am so glad people like our addition to the show. *squee* It was definitely fun to try something new!

[@chris_stinson]

well you were amazing so great job

[@MargaretKrohnPlays]

#rollLove

[@johngleeman8347]

Your vampire getup was fabulous.

[@ndalby187]

#CamilleforPraxis

[@randomguy6679]

Have you played Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines before?

[@wobdarden]

This was a good episode. I loved three vampires trying their damnedest to persuade the Malk, and it took the Nosferatu in the corner going "COMICS!" to break the ice.

[@profmembrane8501]

Saito: (waving enthusiastically) HI!!!!! Zach: (corner of mouth) this is a load of barnacles...

[@TauShasla]

Break ends at 2:12:36

[@TauShasla]

Game starts at 12:25 but you will miss out on some banter :P

[@02DarkKnight21]

Thx

[@irishmarshmallow]

🙏🙏🙏

[@Fragacide]

One of the terms we started using for mortals was gogurt. This was due to an abomination of a gangrel who would celerity in to a fight, grab the nearest mortal, potence its head off, and squeeze the blood inefficiently into his mouth, all the while charging his opponent.

[@MarkATorres1989]

I never realized how addicted I got to this channel till I watched the Live Podcast and was actually snarling at every disturbances that happen in my life that removed me away from watching the episode. Hahahaha.

[@Ghostneedle1]

yikes

[@NinjaDeviant]

I love how at the hour mark there's a rules and mechanics question and the whole top row of brown haired men bring out the physical copies. God I love my fellow nerd kind

[@mikejv1019]

That was so awesome, LOVED the characters Josh and Maggie brought, I'd love it if they could be regulars, but if just one I know who I'd pick...Camille, (SMILE) because she'd blend better with the group for abilities, personality and connection to the 2 regulars. Love Shuichi, but he too similar to Zach. Regardless, everyone was just awesome!!! Oh, and love the 2 NPC's.

[@robertgronewold3326]

I really love Shuichi and Camille.

[@MargaretKrohnPlays]

[@moehsenpai8855]

Butcher: "Can I have a sippy cup"?

[@paulhudson8725]

I am slowly working my way through the back log...and I am enjoying spot the kitty.

[@roylandmaines299]

I pop KZbin every 30 mins just to check if you uploaded this episode. I'm addicted

[@oneonly2762]

Likewise. Also, when will the gang be at the O´Hare International Aiport? I needs that Bane moment.

[@roylandmaines299]

Dude I even have pop-up notifications on, but I think maybe it isn't working and I check manually

[@daemonlordmagnusthered6213]

30 minutes? Try 30 seconds 😊

[@TheLastSyphen]

Just FY Ithe episodes of this will usually be released on Sunday's at 10 pm GMT or your local equivalent

[@larsdahl5528]

I guess there are a term for it. Similar to IAD and nomophobia.

[@AlexApocalypse100]

Normally, 4 hour streams scare me away but goddamn, I’m injecting this series in my veins.

[@DerKoali]

I realy realy like this Stream. The mood ist so intense! Thx for all the well spent hours of Vampire FUN!

[@MrJudeWanamaker]

Also being mature enough to RP romantic or sexual encounters in a way that is like titillating but not awkward for the people at the table is also very impressive. It's hard to RP any thing like this at the tables I play at for me as much as them, LOL

[@tio4861]

Damn I really like Zack as a character he’s really interesting and the way EnterElysium plays him is great.

[@TroySeward]

Another great episode. Love this series.

[@Moldereyes1999]

The encounter with the Malk??? That Pillars of Eternity theme fit

[@Len0re348]

I love that very obscure comic knowledge suddenly becomes very important.

[@Eduardo.Leon-]

The blood bonds are fascinating, I hope they don’t get the chain mixed up, the order was great!

[@lyredragon]

stake through the heart paralyzes, not torpor. they are 100% aware but they cant do anything. they have to be all dried out of blood to torpor and that take at least a week or two depending on how they make their rouse checks every evening.. This is an important distinction. you can torture a paralyzed kindred. you can't torture a torpored one. also works with the fact that you can use some mental disciplines while staked, and there is the 5th level gangel power which lets you potentially work stakes out of your body

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Correct. I totally misremembered.

[@MrKangaroo123]

Watching EE just be like the fuck is wrong with you insane crazy people at the end is absolutely the best part for me.

[@galleamomega]

I think what i like most about this VtM is the fact that the nosferatu has by far the most game

[@Mr._Matt]

I just came back to this video while watching Layla and my jaw hit the floor when I realized that Saito and Barnaby are the same player. His mannerisms in both videos, even out of character are so different! :O

[@Weird_Quests]

Loving this series so far - making me excited for getting Vamp 5th :)

[@rossnorris2351]

Hooked on this series. Loving it. Watching on KZbin right now. Will try to catch it live when I can.

[@TheHiddenMedia]

The chain was Saito to Camille to Butcher to Zach to the Malkavian

[@irishmarshmallow]

I can't wait for Saturday 🙏🙏🙏 Im so invested in Zach's character and i can not wait to find out wth that stain on his soul he spoke of is. I had to make sure i didn't miss something when she called him a liar

[@laneheis4541]

God that techno music was in the first episode I think of the first shadowrun game that roll4it ever did, which was the first game roll4it ever played.

[@bahoogasfaga]

So I understand that blood bond mechanics have changed and all, but anarchs are not about blood bonds that's the same archaic shit they are fighting the camerilla about. this should play out in the juiciest of fashion.

[@TheFuriousBrother]

oh man, all the sexual tension...

[@countessalicetepes]

that sexy strawberry

[@moongirl786]

EE just completely changed the order of the blood bonds from what Mathas said... it was originally Saito to Camilla, Camilla to Butcher, Butcher to Zach, and Zach to ancient Malkavian... What EE then said was Saito to Butcher, Butcher to Camilla, Camilla to Zach, and Zach to ancient Malkavian so... 1 out of 4

[@higginsjedi85]

Dropping that shadow run session 2 beat lol

[@Ghostneedle1]

Do vampires get stronger with age or are they stronger because the blood is a lower generation? Figure it's both but which is more important?

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Both. The older a vamp gets, the more powerful they become. But Generation dictates their cap for power. Blood Potency = Term for Power of the Blood. Late Gen vamps (our players) can max out at Blood Potency 3. The older the generation, the high the Blood Potency cap goes. However you can change your Generation by diablerizing (eating the soul and blood of another vampire) older Kindred.

[@Ghostneedle1]

But diablerizing is also extremely taboo right? Also how strong is potency 3?

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Absolutely taboo and against the masquerade rules (and just rules of most Kindred). Only under very very specific circumstances would Diablerie be authorized by the Camarilla. Blood Potency goes up to 10. So a 3/10 is pretty small, and each tick upward is a pretty big power shift.

[@thedapperlad7148]

One of the issues with high blood potency is that you need more powerful amounts of blood as it rises, an antediluvian who has BP10 can only drink from Elders and other similarly powerful supernaturals

[@user-xb8ts3rc9g]

was about to lose my shit when Zach said Malchav was his sire.

[@wulvercreative6511]

a one off where the LtVS cast play VtM would be the greatest stream I could witness... just putting this out there EE

[@Mad_Tongues]

Anarchs plus blood Bond sounds like the group they where with before but with more steps even more so sense the group they where with has not check up on them or bothered them still a good show it's strange is all

[@TheStupidLama]

Is in V5 Auspex mixed with Necromancy's Shroudsight/Witness of Death? o.O I'm really getting interested in V5, this seems to work *a lot* with Disciplines-remixes. While I'm not sure if I'd like that, having played Giovannis and necromancers preferably, I kinda liked that to be "my thing" even if it's *very* situational.

[@ryan1000011]

that opening dance macabre though

[@Djiehh]

The heavy breathing of the Butcher? I guess he's just cosplaying a vampire then?

[@rossnorris2351]

Roughly 4:02:38 Bondage makes a sad Ollie.

[@vitalyzabelin5685]

Just make some damn copies of the book. All get what they want. Neutrality, ho. Job well done.

[@larsdahl5528]

Yes, that was my thought too, when they got the mission: Is a copy of the book good enough? (At least I would consider making a copy for myself!) And they did not ask how much mission giver was willing to pay for the book.

[@larsdahl5528]

Still I would (at the time they got the mission) like to know the value of the book. At least I would like to get some assurance that the mission is not an easy way to destroy us! (Suicide mission.) Go steal a book from the Inconnu Monitor's library. (Go play with the cars at the highway.)

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@larsdahl5528 Being devil's advocate for a moment, Mark never implied that stealing was the only option. He left this group to their own devices. Which is always seems like a hodgepodge of chaos. 🦇

[@larsdahl5528]

Correct, it was never stated that they should steal the book. My thought was at what could happen if they approached this task the same way they dealt with that vampire hunter and cult at the abandoned railway station. As I see it, then the group is eager to complete the tasks they get, but lack interest in what the purpose of the task is. The ideal group for elders looking for someone to do the dirty jobs...

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@larsdahl5528 I totally agree with you. I mean who sends a couple of neonates to deal with an elder? What are the Anarchs thinking? But if I have my lore correct and correct me if I'm wrong, (though being new I am constantly finding myself re-reading texts over and over only to find new things I've failed to notice) protecting Kindred secrets from the 2nd Inq. is a must. And with Gehenna slowly being rebuilt through prophesies fulfilled, this must have believers and non-believers on edge. So I can see this as desperate times calls for desperate measures. I can only wish these neonates survival more than success. Because soon the Dark Father will return and clean up his mess.

[@brynl-k4118]

I was thinking about this, Vanessa already knew that a particular person wasn't a malkavian, wouldn't she know that Zach's sire is still alive, since all the malkavian are connected? And if so, wouldn't she know that he would be still working on gehenna? I wish we could have seen more of Vanessa. It's interesting to re-watch and see some of the Nuggets that the malkavian were talking about, and I wish we could have heard more from Zacks sire

[@a3van609]

Announcements stop at 9:20

[@MrJudeWanamaker]

I love all the Intrigue and the court Royale Style. Question about vampire the Masquerade 5th edition does it do combat? Like sorry to say the way 5e Dungeons & Dragons does, are there encounters? Love the series and plan on watching the whole thing much love!

[@Ghostneedle1]

Should we know why the Malkavian called Zach a liar?

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Nope.

[@Ghostneedle1]

Okay good

[@JaYxNuT]

@@ChilluminatiPod Thanks was confused

[@thedapperlad7148]

I missed the live show due to backwoods internet, ill see if i can provide any extra info on the events of this session when i watch it

[@theinquisition7]

Couldn't wait for todays upload on youtube so I decided to watch the past broadcast of this episode and it came up as "5000: Content Not Avaliable"

[@TheLastSyphen]

If you tried to watch it on Twitch they have it locked for subscribers only, so that's probably why

[@RedDeadUndead1]

With the reference to a "stain" on Zach's soul, he may be a diablerist. Just a thought.

[@bjornthorgudmundsson2781]

Wasnt the stain from episode one when he killed that guy to protect his sister

[@RedDeadUndead1]

@@bjornthorgudmundsson2781 Yeah I agree that its just referring to his humanity score. I just like throwing crazy ideas about

[@user-xb8ts3rc9g]

@@RedDeadUndead1 If you're talking about 3:12:00 it's definitely more than his humanity stain, it's about the fact that she keeps calling him a liar for some reason.

[@nc956]

about 12:30 TTRPG actual start. xD

[@user-nj9mh7ly2n]

Mmh. Anarchs. Blood bonds... that smells like a test.

[@Behemiel]

Awesome show...any chance to get on your discord?

[@arlem525]

Incredible Hulk #181. First appearance of Wolverine.

[@hank9112]

I love Saito so much!! I love scholar vampires.

[@rossnorris2351]

The ritual is the Vauldurie, the bond is the Vinicculum.

[@matthewoconnor6691]

I just imagine Oly and Zach turning into 8 bit characters when they enter the club. Mainly because of the "club" music sounds like a NES game level. LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@coltonbunja]

“I don’t know what that means, but I’m slightly aroused” ya know, same Bubs. Same.

[@AkaAelius]

Why does Zach keep rolling 3 extra dice it's rerolling dice with WP not adding 3 dice

[@Neutral_Tired]

it rerolls up to 3 dice, so he rerolls three of the failures, so it technically is rolling 3 more dice

[@TabularConferta]

Amazing so tense at the end. I hope the cameos come back . Just to be sure is the lady aware of the Tremere Bane because that is hugely relevant. What are subs and bits?

[@bjornthorgudmundsson2781]

They stream the shows on twitch first then upload the vods on youtube

[@TabularConferta]

I'm honestly not that familiar with Twitch. I'll have to look it up, thanks.

[@dionysianhoney99]

I would love to RP Gangrel aquarii with these guys

[@grzegorzcz]

I'm late to this series and I have to say that this is definitely my favorite episode so far

[@nonchip]

shouldn't they actually know dakota's (presumably fake) last name from when she made the "if they anger dakota, terror will raine" pun?

[@Neutral_Tired]

I mean, she never explained it was a pun

[@rakshasutton1933]

i really love the the cos gm rules talk about rules

[@BossALKENO]

Club song source?

[@scottyalto]

Best group yet.

[@chrisbacon8311]

Zach!!!! You sneaky bugger!! Naughty!!

[@davidbarembaum719]

I think Elysum is broken

[@Neceroe]

Aren't ghouls addicted to their sires blood i thought that was how it was.

[@larsdahl5528]

They are usually blood bound to the one feeding them blood. But they are not addicted, just as time passes it become more and more fatal if they run out, as they will age to their true age (During approximately one month.). Ghouls do not have sires, only someone feeding them regularly. Who, due to the blood bond, is called 'Master'. (Not 'Sire'.) Ghouls can do with blood from any vampire, and that can be useful in that it is possible to keep the ghoul going without the ghoul being blood bound. (Blood bonds fade much faster in ghouls than in vampires, thus it is easy to 'unbond' a ghoul.) Such a (*Not* blood bound) ghoul have some interesting options: For example they can learn the vampire disciplines! It cost much more for ghouls than for vampires. (4 * XP, if I remember correctly.)

[@Neceroe]

so they're addicted to their sires not their sires blood that makes sense I guess

[@bahoogasfaga]

@@larsdahl5528 v5 does not run ghouls this way.

[@Revan_7even]

EE when Mathis says "old book" :)

[@scottybullock7307]

The order was camille to butcher saito to zach zach to butcher camille to zach to the malkavian

[@Neutral_Tired]

except Saito can't blood bond other people, Tremere can't bond people

[@DrowFighterMage]

Creepy fucking ghost scene.

[@jimc7022]

Love this series. Very entertaining. One bit of criticism. I know Zach has a high intelligence and occult ratings but it’s coming across as meta gaming. He’s actually using rulebook terms for powers like “she could user her domination or presence on us” or “Malik avians have Auspex she could use”. It’s a bit over the top to the point of not sounding how these things would be discussed IRL. Not to mention that for a newborn kindred he’s playing his character like he knows everything there is to know about all kindred society, clans, and history. It’s too much to be believable. He sounds more like someone who read the VtM rulebook fluff instead of sounding like a well read neonate kindred character. Otherwise all else is good

[@vengeancecookie]

Agreed

[@gaminglynx6648]

Too be fair, he knows his limits on his information about the kindred and clans, and has mentioned that he knows this because his sire had him learn it. Also, Mathas replied to a comment up in the thread addressing the rulebook names of abilities, stating that it's easier for the newer players as well as most of the audience if he uses those terms. To be fair, he didn't use the terms in the first few episodes, he mentioned breaking someone's mind, becoming invisible, etc. So, he probably realized the inexperienced players and audience didn't understand him, and as such he's trying to make it easier for them

[@wadegreenjr.2014]

Is it me? Or is Camille/@MargaretKrohn looking like Faye Dunaway?

[@TheDanlovejoy]

Just started the episode, if you think normal or saber fang caps are bad, pop on some shredders.

[@TheDanlovejoy]

Camille's reference of "we can fix that" made me think her Tzimisce, if so cool, if not also cool.

[@thedapperlad7148]

She is a Ventrue, i divined this due too her "I can take a hit" comment, Ventrue have Fortitude as one of they're disciplines and are one of the only ones that have it that are also socially focused vampires

[@manticore6963]

+Alban Malci I also thought "Hm, maybe she's a Ventrue" due to her Comment on her "Bane" and "Feeding Habits". If I remember correctly, Ventrue have to feed from a very specific kind of Person like only blond People or only Men or something like that. (My Memory is a bit fuzzy in that) I had to read your Comment to realize, that Camille might be an Anarch-Ventrue. Now that would be interesting.

[@thedapperlad7148]

They have to feed from "High Quality" blood, they can't just pick a hooker of the streets, at minimum they have to get a middle class guy or gal

[@Neutral_Tired]

@@thedapperlad7148 no, in v5 Ventrue have to pick a type of person and only feed from that person (natural brunettes, drug users, a certain ethnicity, etc.)

[@rusalkadouglas2307]

Dose Mathas have a cat? Once and awhile you can see something move on his right side.

[@garrettpettig5444]

Yes

[@ziabatsu4422]

2:30:30 Camille swallows

[@nosredna9127]

im confused who has control over who

[@larsdahl5528]

If B is blood bound to A and C is blood bound to B and D is blood bound to C and ... etc. Then it do not matter, as everyone is blood bound to A. In short: Links only matter if the chain is broken (Some one suffer final death.) If, say C is destroyed, then B will still be bound to A, only D will be freed as E is still blood bound, just now to D instead of A. That is the smart part of making the blood bonding that way, as all 4 are bound to A, but only one have a reason to slay A! (As far as I understand, then in V5 blood bonds fades much faster than in earlier versions.)

[@nosredna9127]

ok thanks that helps

[@Ghostneedle1]

For example, A can command B to command C to command D to go jump off a bridge. A has control over all of them but it has to go through the ones inbetween first.

[@neontenebrae1918]

I just started watching this campaign, new to both the channel and tabletop RPGs, and completely fell in love with it a few days ago. I just wanted to say that Josh is incredibly hot and I wanna die ;u;

[@TheCyberguy101]

In game, Zach hasn't done any research on butcher to know he has a child in an orphanage. He knows he possibly has family, but doesn't know where, how many etc.

[@chandlermuehlberg2044]

To be fair butcher made it kind of odviuse he did say he had a kid and he knew exactly who picked up the baby from the apartment after they left, now don't get me wrong that doesn't say it all but simple deduction could go from there which he did deduce that it's either orphanage or foster home that is extremely likely

[@Neutral_Tired]

he has told them that he has a kid and the mother is out pf the picture, it's a reasonable assumption

[@levihoffman8697]

No it’s suburbans that are tanks disguised as cars

[@zobenik5]

Josh ❤👏❤

[@GDC411]

4:09:05

[@GDC411]

3:16:24

[@GDC411]

3:31:30

[@JAE-vj2dd]

All I hear is Sean from SofF.

[@Ristro44]

This episode is so sexual!!!

[@Ristro44]

omg Subtember is crazy

[@Ristro44]

Oh my god. I agree with Mags. That voice is terrifying XD

[@HenriqueErzinger]

People grinding in the Asylum? It has been a while since I stepped into a goth club, but either the scene changed a lot since my time or this is dangerously inaccurate. Seriously, it will get you punched in the mouth hahaha

[@matthewstorm4135]

🩸

[@TheStupidLama]

Zach does a bit too much Meta-Talk for my taste.. "a high level malkavian" and such. I know it could technically just be just the way he talks and all.. but "what are your specialities? can you dominate? can you obfuscate?".. I like it more if "Auspex" is refered to as "seeing the unseen" and "perceiving auras" and "go unseen" instead of Obfuscate.. maybe it's just me but meta terms take me out of the story. And even with 3 points in occult he wouldn't know "Toreador have Celerity, Auspex and Presence". And Malkavians know *nothing* about their dementation. They think they force their madness upon others. It's not a discipline for them (quoting rule book). Just a bit much meta for my taste, it just takes me out of the story, maybe it's just me.. Oh and Obfuscate and Cameras: Cameras will record Vampires.. but people looking at the screen will be under the influence of the discipline and therefore will not see the Vampire. But someone who wasn't present who looks at the tapes LATER, will see the Vampire. And i think it's a bit much that young Zach knows that Auspex counters Obfuscate if Level is high enough. Just a *lot* of Meta Talk.. again, maybe just me.

[@ChilluminatiPod]

While I TYPICALLY very much agree, you're also coming at it from an experienced or at least knowledgeable WoD and VtM perspective. I let these things slide for a few reasons. 1) All these players are not only new to VtM 5th ed, but are new to VtM completely. Using the actual names of the Disciplines and such makes it easier for everyone who's playing to understand what they are planning on doing. Moreover it's also a show, introducing a new edition of a long running rules system. Thousands of people are watching, many of whom will be 100% brand new to this system (or any system) outside of D&D and D20 rules, and it's better for them to fully understand what the characters are planning to do and what to use without the characters saying something mystic then coming out of character to clarify they mean Auspex. Same goes for Generational talk as well, it's just a simple way for people to understand the difference in power for the sake of clarity, both player and viewer. They do have terms for generational brackets (Antedeluvians, Methselahs, Neonates etc) just imagine those terms are being used instead. And something I imagine as they get more and more comfortable with the world and the butt load of crazy unique language this game uses as well, it'll change naturally. 2) As for the whole Malk thing, there's a reason he's speaking like that. Which will be revealed to you in Ep 6.

[@TheStupidLama]

@@ChilluminatiPod Looking very much forwards to it! And I understand the necessity. I would not have thought the players are new to Vampire though! xD amazing job, keep it up!

[@ChilluminatiPod]

Glad you're enjoying!

[@user-xb8ts3rc9g]

I see it as these are the names that the vampires have given their power, he could've learned from his sire about all the clans and what their abilities are called, it would likely be one of the first things he learned at least the Camarilla clans, I don't expect him to casually mention Vissicitude or Obetenebration or something but learning the structure of the Camarilla and all about the clans that make it up, as for Dementation, it could easily just be that it's what he's heard other clans call it.

[@rossnorris2351]

But there is also the overreaching philosophy among gamers. Kill The Guy Passing Notes.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

They talking about levels made me cringe quite a bit, I'm not gonna lie

[@gmeneagrosdarkthorn3290]

Can play a Malkavian on your campaign and when you say "you don't have to watch what we post" il say you have to ......:P :P :P ??

[@anvos658]

Really don't get how people manage to watch VTM streams live, these things take so long (not just you guys/gals) it often feels like you need audience/viewer breaks. . Telling people who aren't your ghoul is a masquerade violation. Consentualist feeding type is a path to pain. This has been your kindred disclaimer. . Yep Anarch mission to a tea, Cam want it so baby needs the toy now. Also poor time management skills that both missions weren't lined up to fit the same time slot. . Sawed off that much that shotgun ain't accurate past point blank essentially. . Kind of wish Zach had said neither him or Butcher look like they should or even would have the resources to buy such a thing, so of course you two take the lead. . Guy in a strange mask, person from the apartment is an eccentric, people throwing money around, you probably have the bartender thinking your making an adult film up there or swingers. . Adventures of the basic resources coterie members. . Guess I'd just been assuming you were homebrewing using composure instead of awareness. . Weird seeing an Anarch Tremere be that standoffish, their generally the blabbermouths of the two-three Tremere groups. . This is why I say its best to homebrew/expand regaining willpower requires it to physically be a different day in the story, you shouldn't encourage people to burn willpower just because of a session timer. . Oh she mightn't murder you but be prepared to spend your kindred life a mentally shattered husk. . Wise Independent, your only safe as along as the true sects are busy. . Poor Tremere, you identified the book as a book. . Hm.. Not a Tremere or just being a duplicitous Tremere and hiding he can't blood bond. Ah he was trying to be the duplicitous Tremere, but the old lady caught him. Even then Tremere are about the only ones that know a way to break that. . Yeah this is very much a lets talk about it, Camarilla were just punishing insolence, this guy is asking us to make a deal to be bound to another to a beyond kindred safe level.