FINALLY! Someone showing how wire is actually made instead of endless videos of people drawing wire from...wire!
@eivindkofod17744 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, I do a lot of drawing wire and like you, I have to mill it first on the square groves. However, I do something, I have not seen you or other tubers do: I actually roll round wire on the mill by rotating the wire less than 45 degrees. This is particularly beneficial, if you do not have a draw bench but only rely on your vise, draw plate and your arms. Can be hard work. Anyway, thanks for your videos. They are appreciated.
@Atthebench4 жыл бұрын
Yes I have also done that. I will do a film and credit you with the suggestion 👍🏼
@shuraimsamoo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip much needed.
@johnmoreno90422 жыл бұрын
55 AND all ways tryin life. you inspire me .im a great prospector, and now i get to play with my metal. thank you Friend.
@lizstrangesavage79486 ай бұрын
Thank you, Andrew! Really enjoyed watching your process!
@soona2011 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Got 'er done - despite only having the draw plate and a vice...lots of cursing, slipping around and annealing LOL!! I think I put a hip out but I got from ingot to to round 1mm wire with your help! :)
@DreidMusicalX9 ай бұрын
Well. I watched this video and went looking for a draw plate bench like you have. OMG are they outrageous! I ended up building one with a wench and got a pair of draw plate pliers for about $20.00, so the entire cost was about $80.00 US and mounted it on a 4X6X8ft piece of lumber. They were asking like $1,200 US for the one you have used. I also made mine adjustable with a flat vise that can move in as close as 2ft and out as far as making 7ft of wire. I made some copper wire so far with my carbide plate and I love it! No more trying to pull wire through a plate with pliers by hand, and making jagged wire. Your videos give me inspiration to do things and make things work. Looking forwards to more of your videos even though you have made many.
@Wrest21653 жыл бұрын
i used to work in a silver/gold metal mill, we did this with like, 10,000 T.oz at a time! We had giant annealing OVENS and machines that would do some of this in one step. We had a machine that would turn round wire into square wire( mainly to make it smaller size quickly) and square to round dies, round to half moons, triangle, and round to square again. Fun stuff! And very very very specific stuff. Very neat to see it done like this on a small scale. Thanks!
@maryamraf858 Жыл бұрын
Perfect training, thank you🌺
@allanthompson9695 Жыл бұрын
Ive been wondering about drawing down. Something didn't quite make sense in my rationing. I have seen you demonstrate quite a few times, but Its only just clicked in my slowly forming trainee Jewelers brain. I do Love it when that happens, because a leap takes place rather than step by step slowly slowly, although that is also very very good. Thanks Andrew. Legendary Educator as always Sir.
@Makermook2 жыл бұрын
I recently looked up fine silver wire online. The cheapest I could find had more than a 600% markup over what you'd pay for the bullion weight.
@rmacfarland Жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction. Exactly what I was trying to learn. You have some cool tools, unfortunately, I will be holding the plate with my vice and pulling with locking pliers. 😊
@kokobrown716110 ай бұрын
I place my plate over two bits of wood then stand on it and pull the wire up. My vice isn’t on a heavy enough table. 😢
@darrenstettner53814 жыл бұрын
Oh! I needed this video days ago! Now I’ve got a bunch of crappy flakey wires. Guess I was to eager with the increments I squeezed them ate
@nininerikomi77863 жыл бұрын
So incredibly helpful. Thanks, Andrew.
@suelynpeters17285 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this series from scrap to “new” wire! So very helpful.
@shannonfinnessy5338 ай бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge!
@giorgiodeste80233 жыл бұрын
Very interesting lesson, thanks for sharing
@Ken_Dalton5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Andrew. Iv lived this whole indept series from ingot to wire! Alot of people will find it super helpful.. I got myself my firs draw plate last week.
@chriswilly5225 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks sir From Morocco
@patrickhayes30994 жыл бұрын
I will not be making electrical wire with this method! I was just watching production of fence wire in 2 mile long rolls. What a long way we have come in our industrial processing of metals. Wish I had access to this shop just to watch the masters. Actually, I have to get back to my own bench that has been packed up for 20 years...... Great way to start my Monday!
@adiem16534 ай бұрын
Brilliant videos
@paulstein24805 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, sir.
@johnhowton63393 жыл бұрын
nice one andrew great advise
@argentorangeok62242 жыл бұрын
You don't quench after heating for annealing. I've so many videos where the craftsman quenches after heating. Why do they do that? I took a metallurgy class in college about 25 years ago and seem to remember that quenching hardens/case hardens the work.
@sainaths52942 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir Andrew , Thanks for your best Vedio nicely explained ,will please show the instrument you use to clamp / or you hold to pull through the draw plate Regards Sainath
@dantailleur35975 жыл бұрын
Very nice video--and great info!! Thanks for doing these--keep 'em coming!!!!
@dylancarter63863 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you Andrew!
@jimbenge96495 жыл бұрын
Loved this series of videos. I have learned so much from your channel. It may be some time before I get the chance to try drawing my own wire but, I now feel no dread at the prospect of trying. Thank you.
@mateuszminsky5619 Жыл бұрын
I just look for all your video. Can you do one showing your wire drawing bench? I thank you.
@mary-annkieckhaben50262 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@marcovalverde64012 жыл бұрын
Excelent, thanks
@abdesslemdounassre4262 Жыл бұрын
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@johnhowton63394 жыл бұрын
good info
@Gideon_gains7 ай бұрын
When I've ruined the metal by adjusting rollers too quickly, can I just remelt the metal and start again?
@ruthgilmour59153 жыл бұрын
Hi, maybe a silly question but Is it necessary to draw wire after the rolling mill? What if you just roll down to 2mm? What is the purpose of drawing it? Thank you in advance 🤗
@bonniemagpiejewellery Жыл бұрын
I can see it’s a year since you asked the question but just in case you’re still looking for an answer… The rolling mill makes the wire square… the drawplate makes it round (or whatever shape the drawplate is).
@tess76565 жыл бұрын
What material is the big place where you anneal in this video made from? I love the videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@Atthebench5 жыл бұрын
Its made from soldering boards, 300mm square 12mm thick
@tess76564 жыл бұрын
@@Atthebench thank you!
@gabrielfabula23592 жыл бұрын
10:12 My condolences on your thumb...
@goopee763 жыл бұрын
Would these tools be able to draw annealed steel by any chance? From 2mm to 1.5mm let's say?
@ramzessthegreat Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, this might be a daft question but how would I draw a very long piece of wire using a drawbench? Say I needed a continuous 5 metres of round wire. It seems that the drawbench only allows for a certain length to be drawn, as a matter of fact, it seems that what you drew in this video might be the maximum length? Thank you!
@Atthebench Жыл бұрын
You have to stop and then put the pliers back on the wire next to the plate and pull again. Put a piece of sacrificial metal over the wire so the pliers don’t mark it
@ramzessthegreat Жыл бұрын
@@Atthebench Ah you see I must have had a blonde moment - I did not think about putting sacrificial material around where pliers grab the silver/gold. Great stuff. And thank you for taking the time to reply. Now it makes sense.
@djyul4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew,Might be a dumb question,but how did the Vikings drawn down their wire for filigree? Maybe you dont know,but i dont have that super roller or the draw plates. Thanks in advance.
@candyem66224 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the vikings but I don’t have a draw bench. I manage with a draw-plate in a vice and a pair of old pliers ground flat at the ends.
@djyul4 жыл бұрын
@@candyem6622 yes,but taking it down before that. rough stock before you get to start drawing.
@candyem66224 жыл бұрын
djyul Admit I get access to a mill from time to time and save bits to roll down. If desperate though I forge it down. Hammering all round the rough billet or on its flat surfaces and edges. I Anneal and pickle as it gets work hardened. I imagine very early metalworkers engineered some sort of mill but prior to that they must have forged. If you cast up scrap and make a billet of metal you should hammer it a bit it a bit anyway as the metal structure is too open. It stops the piece breaking up especially around the edges as you roll it or pull it through a draw plate. Just been doing this to turn scrap silver into useful stock using cuttlefish bones.
@djyul4 жыл бұрын
@@candyem6622 Thanks for your reply Candy. Looks like i will be doing the same.
@flyingcheff4 жыл бұрын
What does coat shaped wire look like, please? Thanks, Andrew!
@Atthebench4 жыл бұрын
Coat shaped wire?
@allanthompson9695 Жыл бұрын
@@Atthebench Court shaped I think.
@allanthompson9695 Жыл бұрын
Court shaped I think Chef.
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@Guitcad12 жыл бұрын
I assume that every time you say "centimeter" here you actually mean "millimeter"?
@hateonskillz3183 жыл бұрын
Have made the mistake he showed about compressing the metal too much too fast. Not a good thing especially when it starts flaking and your still trying to work with it. I had a piece of gold stuck in my thumb for the longest time and I would look at my finger with multiple x magnification and couldn't see the little or should I use the word micro piece of gold cause it literally wasn't visible I eventually got it out but idk if I ever really had a visual of the piece of metal smh not a cool week or two . Wish I would have seen this before lol but you live and you learn some times it the hard way lol
@Coleman775 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a studio of my own. I am in a place where I’m going to have to make do with less until I can make do with better tools. I have the first of many draw-plates, I have no draw plate bench. That is where I have to make do with alternative ways. There has to be away.
@Atthebench5 жыл бұрын
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@eivindkofod17744 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert and all you other guys out there. I think, it is standard to be without a bench for years first. If you are drawing wire less than 2mm, just place the plate in a strong vise (on a very steady table/base), grab your tong with the hands, and pull. Maybe you should put your feet on the vise to gain more strength and to prevent you from pulling the table. Anneal frequently. Melissas home made bench is good (I just made one after 50 years of dreaming). Hans Mevis also has a video on building your own. Have fun.
@Coleman774 жыл бұрын
Andrew Berry Thanks for the recommend, I found it helpful. Getting up that hill to purchase something, is slow going. I started with nothing but pliers. Looking back I see how far I’ve come along. Recent relocation has turned on my self awareness. I have a lot.
@Coleman774 жыл бұрын
Eivind Kofod I pulled a tool box mostly full of stuff. I’ll try more weight. I can rig up some short term things. I was pulling way above 2mm mark.
@eivindkofod17744 жыл бұрын
@@Coleman77 Hi Robert. I would maintain that 2mm is about maximum of whst you should pull of solid wire by hand. The larger holes are for the more mechanised and for tubes, chains and the viking stuff. And do not forget to oil the wire. For years, I used a candle stump for this.